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Whatever: Braves 8, Phillies 7

So the Phillies didn't really give a damn about this game, and played like it for the better part of seven innings.  The Phillies only managed two runs on a single hit -- a two-run bomb by John Mayberry, Jr. in the second innings -- off Braves starter Tim Hudson, appearing in what amounted to a life-or-death game for the Braves.  Hudson only gave up that hit plus another two run homer to Jayson Werth.

Some unresolved scariness in the second inning, though, as Hudson plunked Carlos Ruiz on the left elbow.  Chooch remained in the game for the rest of the inning, but was replaced by Brian Schneider in the bottom of the second.  That could be bad.

The Phillies played pitcher roulette in the afternoon with mixed results.  Cole Hamels looked sharp in his two hitless innings, while Roy Oswalt gave up a run on two hits in his third inning appearance.  Joe Blanton looked Blantonian, allowing two runs on four hits in one inning.  But it was Danys Baez who really took the cake: Five hits and four runs in just two thirds of an inning.  The long term good outcome here might be that the decisionmakers realize just how worthless Baez truly is and cut bait.

Then things got fun in the top of the eighth, with the Phillies plating three runs of Jonny Venters and Billy Wagner, making the score 8-7 and putting a nice scare into Bobby Cox at his old man's debutante ball.  Wagner came back out for the Braves in the top of the ninth, striking out the side and guaranteeing Atlanta at worst a play-in game on Tuesday if the Padres manage to win today.

Regular season, complete.  Thanks folks.

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by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God

Now I can stop making my Tim Hudson voodoo doll

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finish it- the playoffs are coming and we may need it!

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

otoh, they also expect Romero to be ready.d

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 3, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-0 Giants early as the Padres just got Sanchez’d.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

NL will be decided today...

San Francisco up 2-0 in the 6th— San Diego just can’t get anything started.

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Scrappistein just got a dribbler up the middle and legged out an infield single. 1st and 2nd, 1 out.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually it was an E1 and it’s 2 outs

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tejeda just K’ed

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s a wrap. No three way tie.

Bring on the Reds.

by RaptorLC on Oct 3, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the game is somewhat meaningless but Baez is either all or nothing…he is either an unmitigated disaster or on occassion able to do his job. Type of guy you pull right away at the first signs of trouble if the bull pen is rested….petty of me but I really hate the Braves and wanted them gone. Oh well. Go Padres! Next year Hudson better get plunked.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Only things we gotta do in life are pay taxes and die. The rest is all choice.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, calling someone stupid for hating a wife-beater, that’s really sensible.
Also, pretending to be a Phillies fan really supports your case.
Get out of here.

by philsandthrills on Oct 3, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure the Phillies would support their manager and say “NO” to that question.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Durocher. Martin. Connie Mack/Gene Mauch/Dallas Green, if you want some “even-handedness.” The game is littered with successful managers who by many accounts were first class a-holes. He’s smart and successful, but his in-game tactics remind me much more of John Thompson than John Wooden (if I might switch sports for illustrative purposes).

I don’t have to support him. I don’t have to applaud him. If my perspective is clouded from being a fan of a team his team consistently whipped up on for the majority of his career, sue me. As far as I’m concerned, Bobby Cox being out of baseball is a great thing, especially if Terry Pendleton gets his job.

Hey, and do you believe Hudson was acting on his own today?

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 3, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know we can just click on your screenname and see which blogs you post at most frequently, right?

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

he’s posted twice on here in the last 2 years and only 600+ on Talking Chop. Maybe he’s just a troll who argues what they’re posting all the time

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Oct 3, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at his comments. Pretty obvious.

by philsandthrills on Oct 3, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s check out some of the past opinions of KC Ryan, shall we…..(bold emphasis is mine)

Baseball America’s mid-season top 50 prospects in baseball came out today and surprise, surprise our own Jason Heyward was named the number 1 prospect in all of baseball. Freddie Freeman came in as the #11 prospect overall, which is a HUGE jump from where he was ranked in the off-season. I’m glad to see that Baseball America isn’t down on Freeman for hitting doubles instead of homers. I don’t know about the rest of you but this was a good mood enhancer for me on a 95 degree day in Kansas City.
Phillies fan. Yeah. Be gone, troll. The only thing worse than a Braves troll is a Braves troll who lies about his identity. So, uh, would other TCers call it CLASSless if a Phillies fan came over, disguised themselves as a Braves fan, and stated our opinions of Cox as we have done here?

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Non-issue

We’re smart enough to know posting histories are easily obtained.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I did it more to illustrate it to him and get a few laughs out of the obviousness, than to tell you guys.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that you know that they don’t know

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for the love. Take care, sweetie!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This recap is really CLASSY, WC.

I’d also like to thank our CLASSY commentariat for making the regular season a blast.

Finally, a big thanks to Bobby Cox for being the CLASSIEST CLASSY to ever CLASS.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec’d for awesomeness.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 3, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caught me

Yep. I’m a Braves fan. I lived in Philly for 6 years and had Phillies half season tickets for 5 of those years. So you can’t accuse me of not supporting the Phillies. I lived near Atlanta for 2 years later on and decided Atlanta is a much classier organizations whose fans, while they don’t support the team nearly as well as they do in Philly, at least have a little bit of class and don’t boo their own players constantly. I like the Phillies. When they won the Series a couple years ago I was happy and felt like my team won, but Atlanta is a kinder, gentler place and the Braves organization makes sure the fans have a ton of access to the players throughout the year. I read on this blog constantly but never actually comment or blog because I don’t like the tone of the Mods around here. I guess anyone can see how much more successful Talking Chop is than this Blog. It’s pretty easy to figure out why. A casual baseball fan or even a fan of another team can go over there and comment without getting read the riot act for not being an all-or-nothing zombie fan of the Braves. So yeah…..you caught me but it doesn’t make what I said any less true. That is all.

by KC Ryan on Oct 3, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASSS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASSDL CLASLL SLCAL CLASS CLAS LACKS LCASS CLASS

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the CLASSIEST CLASS to ever CLASS the CLASS

That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.

by alcatraz0109 on Oct 3, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

New tagline for the blog, by the way…

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

YESSSS!

Also, can I move that any utterance of “CLASS” or one of its multifarious variations in reference to an individual, group of individuals, or inanimate object (unless in reference to class as a socio-economic phenomenon or done so in a clearly mocking tone indicated by all caps) shall result in summary baninanation?

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Banination.” Neologism of the week.

by essman on Oct 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s . . . the greatest tagline ever. Nicely done.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently a bunch of nimrods who talk about how classy they are during the 5% of their game thread posts where they’re not spewing profanity at every person involved in the game and wishing for grievous injury to befall their opponents is what constitutes success in your mind.

I guess you’re a successful troll, but that’s about it.

You’re a joke.

P.S. Fuck Bobby Cox.

by RaptorLC on Oct 3, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He even failed at trolling, the way I see it.

by Ritty77 on Oct 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rest of the post still stands.

Especially the postscript. :)

by RaptorLC on Oct 3, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot stress enough how utterly amused I am at this WHOLE ball of wax.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know what makes a successful (and classy) blog?

class class class fuck fuck fuck class fuck you class class class He should bean Utley and Howard in the head class class class fuck fuck class Hopefully every other team in the playoffs dies in horrible plane crashes class class class class fuck you Conrad class class class class class Bobby Cox is so awesome class class class class class

That is of course slightly paraphrased. I cut out about 98% of the “fucks” since a true approximation of their successful (and classy) blog would be a three page wall of profanity, misery, and spite.

Class.

by RaptorLC on Oct 3, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves fans put the ass in class.

by Ritty77 on Oct 3, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot the collection of icons for “xx a hit”, “yy, an RBI”, “zz, a walk”, and the pitcher K collections, but pretty much you nailed it.

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also

MOAR RUNZ RUNZ RUNZ RUNZ

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

As well as
+389527987325987259873987253
And somewhere around eight hundred profiles taglines that all read: Fuck the Phillies, or I hate the Phillies so fucking much, etc. Odd that you don’t see any of that around here, this being such a CLASSLESS place and all.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t care enough to include any of our division rivals in my sig.

Considering how much bullshit I think the entire class thing is, I will point out one thing: it is usually considered classless to point out another’s perceived lack of class.

So, anywho, there is that.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope the Braves beat the Giants and the Phillies beat the Reds. I’d like to see Atlanta in the NLCS. It’d be a nice, warm affair.

A propos of nothing, are you aware that they are able to buy seats to games in ATL now for $25 – $30:

http://www.stubhub.com/atlanta-braves-playoff-tickets/braves-vs-giants-10-10-2010-983733/

You can’t get in the building at CBP for under $85.00:

http://www.stubhub.com/philadelphia-phillies-playoff-tickets/phillies-vs-reds-10-6-2010-983729/

Seriously? Playoff seats of any kind for $20.00? WTF?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 4, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta save for those Thrashers tickets.

by j reed on Oct 4, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they only went to College Football games down there?

by dannijd on Oct 4, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of want to let this one drop. If they go over to their site and make posts about how we run things, how “classless” we are, etc., that’s their prerogative. I’d much rather focus on the game itself.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

*pukes on a fan*

You stay classy Philly. :)

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait...

pukes on a child and an off-duty officer

FTFM

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, because NOTHING bad has ever happened in the city of Atlanta EVER.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, don't get mad at me for bringing it up

You guys wanted to make “CLASS” a meme.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, we made it a meme because your fans came over to our blog and told us what we can and cannot talk about and called us all classless because we don’t genuflect in front of a statue of Bobby Cox every morning.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

That’s exactly what happened.

Are you available to write recaps?

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a good point. It’s worth remembering that at the same time Philadelphians were throwing snowballs at a fake Santa Claus, in Atlanta, African Americans were being arrested and imprisoned for having the gall to demonstrate outside segregated lunch counters.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOWN GOES FRAISER! DOWN GOES FRAISER! DOWN GOES FRAISER!

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

http://examiner.com/news-in-philadelphia/local-swim-club-not-crazy-about-the-coloreds

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That club closed down after being repudiated by the community for its obvious and disgusting racism. After closing, it filed for bankruptcy and the DOJ sued it into oblivion, to the cheers of pretty much everyone in the community.

So your point is?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 4, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta and the South have no room to bring that noise

Don’t even try

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Oct 4, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You idiots do realize

that Atlanta is one of the most diverse cities in the country don’t you? Not that I need to explain the city to you Yanks but the city of Atlanta is very liberal with minorities representing it in political offices states and nationally.

We’ve moved on. You guys stay CLASSY and keep racism alive!

pukes on a child then runs on the field only to get PWNED by Matt Diaz

PS: Instead of bringing up racism, as closet racists tend to do, one good Philly fan story I did enjoy was the dad who hugged his daughter after she threw a baseball back onto the field. Now THAT guy was CLASSY (not being sarcastic either).

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 4, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you didn’t answer the most important question: have you ever participated in the tomahawk chop?

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 4, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

you gals keep focusing on race

we’ve moved on.

Oh yeah, just want to thank you guys for picking up the ex-con, animal abusing, pain-in-the-ass QB named Vick. Glad to know some organizations don’t care about criminal history and all around assholery. How’s that workin out for ya? I mean, without Vick, there’d be no Ryan. So thanks again.

Stay CLASSY ladies.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 4, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must have been really hard for white guys to move on after the upheaval of the 1960s in the South. What an amazing sacrifice on your part.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear the Afrikaners down in South Africa have also moved on. It’s now totally inappropriate to discuss apartheid with them.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re welcome. Matt Ryan is actually a LOCAL GUY. My best friend taught him in school in Philadelphia.

So, you stay classy. And I am a lady, so thank you for addressing me properly.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 4, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to know some organizations don’t care about criminal history and all around assholery.

Haha. That’s ironic coming from a fan of an organization that employs Bobby Cox.

But that was a clever tack on your part to avoid my question, very nice.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

At the exact same time

Everyone knows there are no racists or criminals in Philly.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is what is known as blameshifting. Are you really saying that the racism ever was as bad in Philadelphia as it was in Atlanta less than 50 years ago?

No one from Atlanta has the right to lecture any person from any other place in the world on “classiness”. Atlanta was a truly sick, morally perverted society within our own parents’ lifetimes. It’s improved, but do you really think it’s caught up to the rest of civilization in that short amount of time? Lester Maddox only died seven years ago.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, I’d take one CLASSLESS loser who gets smashed and pukes on some people over a stadium full of people who mindlessly participate in the tomahawk chop every time their team gets a runner on base.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you define “classiness” as being identical to “conformity”, then the fact that everyone’s doing it makes it OK.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Oct 4, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO ONE in Atlanta. I like when you speak in absolutes. That also includes those who were not even born in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s.

You guys stay CLASSY!

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

only replied b/c browser still open

Now it’s officially time to say g’bye.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would exclude African-Americans from “no one”. Otherwise, yes, no one from Atlanta has the right to lecture the residents of any city, regardless of when they were born. If you yourself live in such a city that is so deeply morally flawed, then you have no right to condemn any other city.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right, I’d offer this modification of the above: “No one from Atlanta who has participated in the tomahawk chop has the right to lecture any person from any other place in the world on ‘classiness’.”

Exceptions are also made for Blacks and whites who were in some way connected to the Civil Rights struggle (and not by means of opposing it).

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, he’s equating throwing snowballs at a fake Santa Claus with racism.

And there have been plenty of racists in Philadelphia, criminals, too—the point is that you came here to cast aspersions on our fanbase and you did so without making sure your own house was in order. You got called on it and weaseled your way out of the argument.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you honestly going to judge us based on that one drunken idiot (who happens to be from Jersey anyway). Go ahead, call me CLASSLESS because a fan of the team I root for puked on a girl. And threw snowballs at Santa. And batteries at JD Drew. And a whole ton of other things that have been taken up by the media, sensationalized, and then eaten up by you and other people like you, who then judge a collective entity of people – an entire city – by them. Tell me how that is any different than, say, saying all black people are stupid because they are black. Or all Hispanic people are illegal immigrants because they are Hispanic. Or all Atlantans are racist because they live in Atlanta. So you, you stay CLASSY Sir Veza. Maybe it’ll help you in the future. And don’t drink too much Kool-Aid, it’ll upset your stomach.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

A casual baseball fan or even a fan of another team can go over there and comment without getting read the riot act for not being an all-or-nothing zombie fan of the Braves

This is just patently untrue. They are very much zombie fans over there and shoot down any sort of criticism of the Braves or mgmt.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no cure, but a first-round playoff exit (the more heartbreaking the better) can help make people with this disease less likely to share the symptoms with non-sufferers.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How the eff are they going to win a playoff round with that defense? They barely held on today after facing Baez and Blanton and they had one of their best pitchers on the mound!

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and now they get to face Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez. Also Buster Posey and PtB. Go Giants.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really, really wish that we had crushed their souls. But oh well, the Giants can go ahead and do it.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This might be the one time I break my code and visit McC to cheer them on. I haven’t decided.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was over on Gaslamp Ball, despite their odd hatred of Jayson Werth, to cheer them on. They were very welcoming. It is an interesting place. Lots of cheers that I didn’t get.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from the very offensive Werth stuff, it really isn’t a bad blog.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of the places I have lurked (never lurked over at McC), this was one of my favorites at all time that Werth was not being discussed.

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t break the code. Your old school like I am with this stuff.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s your view on that stuff? Is it really a problem to make a few posts, cheer them on, etc? As long as you’re not being a troll or obnoxious or anything, I feel it’s perfectly fine. I understand not posting over at TC or AA or anything like that, but it’s not as if posting over on McC a few times while they play the Braves makes you a jackass. I’m just curious as to how you see it.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it makes you a jackass, necessarily. I just think that there is nothing gained by it, either for you or for them, even under the best circumstances. (And sometimes it does make you a jackass.)

So I’m inclined to agree with reed on this one.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do agree. Today was the first time I had posted over on another blog, and I probably won’t do it again. I just feel that there is some negativity directed towards those that posts on other blogs, even if they do so responsibly, which to me isn’t really fair.

That being said, I do think that we, as Phillies fans, should stay on our own blog, even if I did break that rule today. All in all, Go Giants and especially Go Phils!

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said. After all the Giants are is just another roadblock on our way to the Promised Land. So why make nice now when I could want them dead next week. Besides we all know how cruel the post season can be. The best team doesn’t always win. So my silence is both a form of emotional self-perservation and an outward sign of respect for the laws of chance.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said, and I understand your point. Had the Padres gotten in instead of the Braves, it would have been ironic to get beaten by them, considering how much I (and others) were rooting for them. I agree with with your points and with you, I hadn’t really considered it from that perspective. Well put.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing’s for certain in the post season, and an “ironic” loss to the Padres would be the same as losing to any other team – an early end to the season and no ring.

In postseason baseball, the teams I root for can change by the series, so I’ll have no problem cheering on the Giants (who finally shut down the best offense they’ll be playing in the next week =p) in the NLDS even if I know I’ll be vehemently rooting against them if they and the Phillies advance to the NLCS.

by RaptorLC on Oct 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although no code applies if

someone comes into our house and decides to piss on the rug… then it’s Zatoichi time.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, I never would have done it anyway. Too lazy.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!

I know 2 Braves fans- both of them waiters- one does not suffer from the disease- he teased me and ragged on the Phillies when they were going through their losing streak…then came over and congratulated me when the Phillies caught the Braves for first place. He and I were able to discuss baseball intelligently, and while he did not make me love the Braves, he did not make me hate them any more than I already did.

The other confused Bobby Cox, Heyward, and Chipper with Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. He wished Chase a long recovery (causing me to wish Prado a similarly long recovery), and made me hate the Brave more than I already did I do not normally trash talk, and he brought it out in me- now I know he is just mentally ill and will treat him accordingly in the future.

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Coxacissistic Personality Disorder

I call it Coxic Shock Syndrome. But whatever works…

That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.

by alcatraz0109 on Oct 3, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love how much our victory

Is in TGP.

Bored much?

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, a solid week without meaningful baseball tends to do that…

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys would know all about that in the past 10 years

But to make a small truce.

At least we aren’t LOLMets fans. :)

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

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by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Mets fans a shit load more than I like Braves fans, personally.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I disagree with your premise

that these past 3 games were meaningless.

They were meaningful to us. Now you may have to face us in the Postseason. If that’s the course the baseball Gods choose. GOOD.

We won’t be throwing 2 rookies out there this time though.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

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by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither will the Phillies.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it goes without saying but...

“DUH!” Charlie showed that when he tweaked ya’llz rotation to put up Halladay, Hamels, and Oswalt up against us a few weeks ago.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what 2 rookies did Atlanta throw at us this weekend? Beachy was one game, but Hanson and Hudson started the others.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, you didn't get it.

I was referring back to the series in Philadelphia.

You guys faced Beachy (rookie) twice and he pitched great.
Hanson (2nd year) twice and he pitched great.
Hudson came out and dominated.

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

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by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

God forbid we use our best pitchers in a crucial series against our closest division rival. CLASSLESS move by Charlie Manuel, I agree.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think he got it. I think the fact that he was referring to was that we beat up your ace pitchers this series, whilst playing our B and C team, which pretty much utterly and completely negates the fact that we beat you a few weeks ago with superior pitching matchups.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Hudson dominate today? 2 2-run homers? I mean, he’s good, but 4 runs is hardly domination.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he might be unaware that home runs are not batted balls in play and hudson has had an unsustainably low BABIP for much of the year

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, he did dominate

2 hits = domination.

Now, there was one other person on base those two times and it just happened to be HRs. I guess Hudson took that scrub Maryberry lightly. Good for the kid.

Other than that, Hudsom DOMINATED

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

"Kill my boss?! Do I dare live out the American dream?" - Homer Simpson

by Sir Veza on Oct 4, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

by phatj on Oct 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

melky mclouth scares me.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say what you like about Bobby Cox, but...

he sure doesn’t pull any punches.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 4, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fans of other teams are perfectly welcome to comment here as long as they don’t troll all over the place. It’s when they come around and start telling us what we should and shouldn’t think that we get pissed. For the last goddamn time, we are under no fucking obligation to respect Bobby Cox. Live with that. In conclusion, fail troll is fail.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats on winning the TGP Fantasy League

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man. Hope we do it again next year.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s gonna be a roundup at some point.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was fun. Thanks for all the work .

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, there’s no need for a roundup. Let that dog lie.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 3, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I wanna roundup so I can rant about how Derek Jeter is a failure and a total waste of a first round pick . . .

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is

perhaps the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. You became a Braves fan after seeing how classy they are—I’m sure the fact that they were winning division championships hand over fist had nothing to do with it. Then you were a Phillies fan again when they won the World Series in 2008.

You, sir, are a complete fraud in every sense of the word.

by GTPinNJ on Oct 3, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you saying you rather be classy than a perennial MLB powerhouse?

because thats pretty sad. Who gives a flying fuck of we are classy or not. Our team is good and thats all I care about.

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you’re getting your ass hammered by guys — there’s no better feeling than to have that done."- Matt Stairs

by pman8 on Oct 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I’d Like to be really good and Classy, not like the yankees. But yes, his argument makes as much sense as a M. Night Shammy movie post signs.

Flyers 10-11 season slogan: "Remember Emery?"

by JpH89 on Oct 3, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its simple guys, he’s a huge fan of all the baseball teams, so he celebrates every world series.

Flyers 10-11 season slogan: "Remember Emery?"

by JpH89 on Oct 3, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sergio Romo’s beard looks fake.

2005 Chicago White Sox. 2006 Chicago Rush. 2008 Philadelphia Phillies. 2009-10 Chicago Blackhawks. CHAMPIONS.
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by HappyHuman on Oct 3, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Just forgot about that troll.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess he actually doesn’t fall within the classic definition of a “troll” per se, now that I think of it. I should have said “Just forget about that provocateur” (troll being a subspecies of provocateur).

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ChopMaster was funnier. Too bad cashman bashman never came back.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was right! The spirit of Bobby Cox prevailed after all!

/Or the inept pitching of Danys Baez
//Never mind he was talking about the NL East.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if there are that many trolls over on TC. According to yesterdays Things Read in Other Mom’s Basements, there have been a fair amount of them. Perception or truth?

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably some, but exaggerated.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is so much joy over at McC right now. It’s wonderful. Reminds me how awesome it was to win the division on the last day of the season.

by ThinMountainAir on Oct 3, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Braves 8, Lakewood Blueclaws 7

what the title should be

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you’re getting your ass hammered by guys — there’s no better feeling than to have that done."- Matt Stairs

by pman8 on Oct 3, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakewood would have won.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 4, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game 1: Wednesday at 5:07
Game 2: Friday at 6:07.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I keep seeing this on twitter, but mlb.com says “TBA”. Where did you see it?

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillies official Twitter

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is great- weird start times, but that is typical of the Divisional round… but at least those with jobs will only need to leave early with scarlet fever, not take off!

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you’re in the Pacific Time Zone like me. Then I’ve got a 2:07 start Wednesday and the possibility I might miss the entire game. Ugh.

by phillyinportland on Oct 4, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reds-Phillies TBS Announcers: Brian Anderson and Joe Simpson with David Aldridge as the sideline reporter.

These are the same guys that called the Brewers-Phillies series 2 years ago and the Rockies-Phillies series last year.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Source

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that good or Bad? as long as its not Joe Buck im happy.

Flyers 10-11 season slogan: "Remember Emery?"

by JpH89 on Oct 3, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought those guys were so-so.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thread bores me.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

g'night

:)

If I have to explain my username to you, you're obviously a Philly fan.

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by Sir Veza on Oct 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would any fan of any team expect a fan of a team with which it has a huge rivalry to appreciate any player/manager/owner/whatever from his/her team?

I would be shocked if a Braves/Mets/whatever fan didn’t hate Jimmy Rollins, Ryan Howard, Charlie Manuel, Cole Hamels, etc. I wouldn’t want it any other way.

Why the incessant need of so many Braves’ fans to have Phillies’ fans respect Bobby wife-beating umpire-whining Cox?

by David S. Cohen on Oct 3, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Sort of like the Yankees mindless drone reaction to those who don’t worship at the altar of all things blue pinstriped.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine it’s mainly just surprise.

When was the last time you saw anything negative written about Cox anywhere other than this blog? Hell, if you Google “bobby cox domestic violence,” your post from a couple of days ago is the third result. The retrospectives from ESPN, etc., don’t mention it. They do mention the ejections but for some reason those are supposed to be endearing.

So yeah, the idea that he’s actually kind of dick is probably pretty foreign to them.

by Spoilt Victorian Child on Oct 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ejections = Being a passionate advocate for his team. Passionate = Endearing!

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well put.

That being said, it is a moral failing if you’re from the Northeast Corridor and still root for the Dallas Cowboys. But otherwise, you are right.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Victorino seems to irritate many opposing fans. Me, too, when he swings at crap, but I think other things irritate them. His shirts, perhaps?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 4, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think his behavior on the base paths may have something to do with it— I never understood how Victorino and Rollins could bother opposing fans until Nyjer Morgan, Michael Bourn, and Jose Reyes drove me nuts this season.

by dannijd on Oct 4, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve noticed this too. I think it’s partially because he fits the general mold of The Pest: little guy, leadoff hitter, can wreak havoc on the basepaths, etc. I irrationally disliked Rafael Furcal for a long time for pretty much these reasons. But then he left the Braves and it was OK.

by SethC on Oct 4, 2010 4:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Braves trolls, is this really the best you have? The two in this thread are pretty pathetic.
And, if you will note, how many actual TGP members bother to troll TC? You get fake trolls there, but none from TGP that I’ve seen. Seriously, you all are a bit pathetic.

by philsandthrills on Oct 3, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

We shouldn’t even be responding to them, honestly. I’m just bored and have nothing better to do at the moment. I suspect they’re all high school kids.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, it annoys me to see them complain about how “Classless” we are, when in all honesty, they’ve clearly bothered us here more than we have them. Especially that little POS mvhsbball. He’s probably trolled here more than this whole board combined has theirs.

by philsandthrills on Oct 3, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the same with almost every fanbases’ trolls. They don’t post on the Phillies site, but they’ll go on post on the opponent’s board. I’ve seen it time and again.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing about this guy is he actually is a TC poster. Which is pathetic because at least the trolls over there aren’t actually TGP posters, they’re just fake trolls who enjoy that type of shit. I hope this guy wasted valuable time over here.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like those Pinstripe Alley morons who got all up in arms when we said something negative about Captain Jeter all over again. They absolutely lost their minds.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s even weirder is that they honestly think that we are douches because we don’t like the Braves. I think someone said something about four strait division titles allowing us to be complete assholes. As if before we won, we cowered beneath the majesty of the Braves and never said anything bad about them, and only now do we dare to speak ill of them. Get over it, dude: People hate your team.

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve hated the Braves since the late 80’s. Ain’t nothing new for me.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 3, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have always considered disliking one’s divisional rivals to be a sign of intelligence. Why should one like one’s enemy?

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already dun it. The rest is just icing on the cake.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giants-Braves

I assume Lowe will go in Game 1, since he’s both the hottest and most well-rested of their pitchers. Vs. Lincecum.

Then Hanson/Hudson vs. Cain/Sanchez in some order.

by taco pal on Oct 3, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I read somewhere that the Braves had already said Lowe would start game one.

by dannijd on Oct 3, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds rotation

Game 1: Volquez
Game 2: Arroyo
Game 3: Cueto

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

While I appreciate Dusty Baker's respect for the Phillies....

You would think he would remember that Chooch played in the Travis Wood game, considering that Ruiz both broke up the perfecto and scored the winning run in that game!

by dannijd on Oct 4, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

wtf Hudson. How many Phils you going to try to injure this year? FUCK YOU

by packimop on Oct 4, 2010 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Wild Card Winner

The Atlanta Braves took the Wild Card with a record of 91-71. The San Diego Padres just missed with a record of 90-72. So, how does that compare with the usual record of wild card winners? Exactly as the historical record would have predicted.
In early August I did a piece about how the Phillies were doing then and I looked at the records of previous wild card winners, saying “the magic number for making the wild card seems to be between 91 and 92 wins.” I also noted that there had been only three teams that won more than 90 games and didn’t make the wild card. The Braves and the Padres fit the overall trend perfectly.

by phillyinportland on Oct 4, 2010 3:20 AM EDT reply actions  

it’s gonna be a lot of fun running train on the nl. i’m just praying the braves somehow survive SF so we can absolutely embarrass them in the nlcs

by aPHILLYated on Oct 4, 2010 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

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