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Phillies-Reds NLDS Pitching Probables

Here are the current pitching probables for the Phillies-Reds NLDS. There's good news, bad news, and more good news here. The good news is that because the Phils got to choose the NLDS schedule that begins on Wednesday, they can get through the entire series using only their Big Three starters on normal rest. The bad news is that the Reds will be able to do the same thing with their three best starters. The good news is that the Reds do not appear to have taken advantage of that opportunity.

If you go purely by xFIP, the Reds' starters in 2010 were, from best to worst: Edinson Volquez, Homer Bailey, Travis Wood, Johnny Cueto, and Bronson Arroyo. (If you go by SIERA, Wood and Bailey would be flipped.) Nevertheless, Bailey and Wood are the two starters they have elected to drop from the rotation. Presumably this is because they're the two youngest and least experienced of the five. Arroyo has pitched much better in August and September though (3.90 xFIP) than he did earlier in the season, so this might not be that big of a deal.

Volquez is a bit of an x-factor here (which I define as a guy who's performance is potentially as crucial as it is difficult to predict). In the first half of 2008, when he was only 24, he was looking like the NL's next breakout pitching star - so much so that nobody was criticizing the Reds for having traded Josh Hamilton to get him. But then he developed some arm problems, struggled through a mere nine starts in 2009, underwent Tommy John surgery, and tested positive for PEDs in the offseason. He didn't make his first start of 2010 until July 17 and was even sent down to the minors from August 31 to September 7. But since returning, he's pitched four really good games (31 K, 8 BB, 6 ER, 0 HR in 27.2 IP). If he's back to his early-'08 form, watch out.

Finally, here's a video from earlier this year of Johnny Cueto getting hit in the groin with a ball.


Games Pitcher G GS IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP GB% LD% FB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP SIERA
1, 4 Halladay 33 33 250.2 7.86 1.08 0.86 .298 51.2 19.1 29.7 11.3% 2.44 3.01 2.92 2.93
Volquez 12 12 62.2 9.62 5.03 0.86 .326 53.9 15.2 30.9 11.8% 4.31 4.00 3.87 3.68
2, 5 Oswalt 33 32 211.2 8.21 2.34 0.81 .261 45.7 17.6 36.7 9.1% 2.76 3.27 3.45 3.29
Arroyo 33 33 215.2 5.05 2.46 1.21 .246 43.4 16.3 40.3 11.3% 3.88 4.61 4.60 4.66
3 Hamels* 33 33 208.2 9.10 2.63 1.12 .296 45.4 16.7 37.9 12.3% 3.06 3.67 3.43 3.19
Cueto 31 31 185.2 6.69 2.71 0.92 .296 41.7 19.4 38.9 8.6% 3.64 3.97 4.26 4.14
N/A Blanton 29 28 175.2 6.87 2.12 1.38 .331 41.9 19.4 38.7 12.2% 4.82 4.34 4.06 4.01
Bailey 19 19 109.2 8.26 3.30 0.91 .321 41.6 21.1 37.2 9.3% 4.46 3.74 3.91 3.79
N/A Kendrick 33 31 180.2 4.18 2.44 1.30 .289 44.5 17.2 38.3 10.9% 4.73 4.88 4.81 4.94
Wood* 17 17 102.2 7.54 2.28 0.79 .272 30.5 21.4 48.1 6.3% 3.51 3.42 4.17 3.77

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Oww! My groin!

It works on so many levels!

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by WholeCamels on Oct 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

that video is a certifiable comedy of errors

by Boundforbeach on Oct 4, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cueto suffered some DNN – Delayed Nutshot Nausea.

by j reed on Oct 5, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes me think of “not his knee…”

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by HappyHuman on Oct 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reds' fan observations on Volquez

I was surprised to see his velocity as good as it was this year, particularly after coming back from TJ so quickly. His fastball is as hard as it was. Location has been a different story, but seems to have improved since coming back from Dayton. There was also talk of him tipping his pitches before Dayton, but that seems to have worked out.

Aside from the velocity, I’ve been impressed with the sink on fastball, which has generated a lot of grounders. This wasn’t a strength of his pre-TJ. Normal caveats about small sample size apply.

by ken on Oct 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

Good information. The stuff is there obviously, just a matter of if he can harness it.

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by WholeCamels on Oct 4, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes yes, but what do you think about Cueto getting hit in the nuts?

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

more good news/bad news

two of Volquez’s last four games were against the worst offensive teams in the NL (PIT & HOU)—but he shut down a legit Milwaukee offense for 8 innings as well.

by perfectdepth on Oct 4, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Whats the name of that pitcher that pitched 105

by The Fish on Oct 4, 2010 5:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Aroldis Chapman

He’s in the bullpen this year (and will be for the playoffs as well), but he’s a starter by trade. Good lord if he can maintain that velocity over a full start.

I just hope he doesn’t hit someone.

by Aphilfan on Oct 4, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see his name and think Altoids

by j reed on Oct 5, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh goody, I just noticed he’s a lefty. Howard batting against him ought to be amusing.

by phatj on Oct 4, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as he comes after him with the heater rather than the Super Secret Down and Away Breaking Ball, I’m not too concerned.

by zfg on Oct 4, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, he’s got that too.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pull an onside-kick-after-the-half and have him bunt. That’d be sure to catch em off guard.

by joetimek on Oct 4, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gets a bit wild, at least when I saw him pitch against the Padres…I’d be more worried about Utley getting drilled by a 105 mph bone breaker fastball.

by j reed on Oct 5, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If John Lannan can break Utley’s hand, it just goes to show, it doesn’t matter who throws the pitch, only where it hits.

by phatj on Oct 5, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’ve got it, TP: Volquez is absolutely the x-factor. On his day he’s good enough to shut down any lineup, and I was disappointed when Dusty made the (correct) decision to start him in place of Arroyo for Game 1.

On the other hand, I’m hoping that some combination of nerves, inexperience, and facing a good Phillies lineup before a sold out CBP will do the same thing to Volquez that it did to another supremely talented young NLDS Game 1 starter.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 4, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha! I’d totally forgotten that he pitched that game. A repeat would definitely be nice.

Of course, I’d settle for a repeat of Yovani Gallardo in 2008.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, I was at the game and I totally forgot Ubaldo started it.

by youaretheman26 on Oct 4, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but is there anyone in particular we’d like to Hootonize? (With a better game outcome, of course.)

by essman on Oct 4, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in particular, but y’know, it isn’t personal, just business.

We might have a particular hankering to Hootonize one of the Braves’ starters in the next round though. That would be fun.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nightmare of Morgan!

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 4, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but was he naked?

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by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 4, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The picture shows that he was wearing a top, but is otherwise inconclusive.

by taco pal on Oct 4, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phils in 4. I think Volquez beats you in game 1, then you guys tee off of Arroyo and Cueto, and win a squeaker in game 4.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 4, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, and I forgot, see you guys in the NLCS.

Go Braves!

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 4, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, you really think you’ll score any runs against the Giants?

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 4, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've done it before, so nothing makes me think that we can't again.

4-3 against them in the regular season. We’ve beaten Lincecum, Cain, and Sanchez.

The Giants aren’t exactly terrifying anyone with their offense.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 4, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor are the Braves. And the Giants clearly have the advantage in pitching.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 5, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. We'll see.

That’s why they play the games.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 5, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually they play the games for the entertainment value. If you actually want to know which team is better, you’re better off analyzing the stats.

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if the Phillies win the World Series, it doesn't matter, right?

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 5, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t matter for what purpose? Be more specific.

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter in the sense of determining the MLB's champion.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 5, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how does that relate to the point I made previously?

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what the point of the World Series is. Not entertainment value.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 5, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it your position that those two things are incompatible with one another?

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Entertainment value is something that the World Series provides. That is not its main goal.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 5, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the main goal of the World Series is, rather, to determine a champion of baseball. But what is the purpose of determining a champion of baseball?

by taco pal on Oct 6, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Phils could lose the World Series and still be the better team, so no, it doesn’t matter in the way that I think you mean.

Look at the 1960 Series. The Yankees outscored the Pirates 91-27. That’s a +64 run differential in seven games! But the Pirates won the series. Does that make them the better team? Of course not.

by phatj on Oct 5, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your first point remains true but your number for the Yankees’ runs scored is way off: they outscored the Pirates by 55-27, an amazing difference of 28 runs in seven games.
To outscore someone by 64 runs and lose four games would have required the Yankees to win three games by an average of 23 runs. When that happens it will be time to see who threw the Series.

by phillyinportland on Oct 5, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, must have looked at the wrong column. I didn’t even think about how unrealistic 91 runs in seven games is.

by phatj on Oct 5, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if you want to know which team is going to win,
you watch the game.

by woodyj on Oct 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there’s one reason to root for the Phils to win it’s so I can continue with my communist inspired “Red October” scthick with no opposition.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 4, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought you didn’t have any opposition because you killed them all in a Coup?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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