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The Autopsy: A Closer Look at the Second Postseason No-Hitter in Major League History

Not content with merely pitching well enough for his team to win in his postseason debut, Roy Halladay went out and threw just the second postseason no-hitter in baseball history. He joined Don Larsen who threw a perfect game in game five of the 1956 World Series. Halladay also became the first pitcher to throw two no-hitters in one season since Nolan Ryan in 1973. It is the second straight outing in which he pitched nine innings and faced one batter over the minimum. Yes, in 18 innings over his last two games, Roy Halladay has faced 56 batters. 

There is simply no overstating just how untouchable Doc was last night. With both vicious movement and pinpoint control of each of the 50 different kinds of fastball he throws as well as total command of his filthy secondary pitches, Halladay was making the Reds quite potent lineup look absolutely silly all night. For those who were watching, it certainly seemed like he could have thrown another three innings of hitless ball if he needed to. The line tells the basic story (9 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 8 K, 0 E, W), but a full appreciation of just how dominant Roy's performance was requires a deeper look into the numbers. Read on.

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 As many have already pointed out, one key to Halladay's success last night was throwing strike one, which he was able to do on the first pitch to 25 of the 28 (89%) batters he faced. To keep the Reds hitters from sitting on his fastball, Roy also mixed in first-pitch changeups and curveballs that, when they weren't being flailed at, were spotted perfectly for called strikes. With the vast majority of hitters buried in pitcher's counts (there were 11 0-2 counts), Halladay could then get them to chase pitches out of the zone for strikeouts -- five of his eight strikeouts were of the swinging variety -- or for weak balls in play. On the many occasions that the Reds were swinging early in counts, the location and movement of his fastballs, in particular, resulted in weak groundballs and popouts. In total, Roy induced 12 groundouts vs. 6 flyballs in play (one foul popout). Only four balls reached the outfield and only one of them, off of the bat of pitcher Travis Wood, was particularly well hit -- a sinking line drive to right that Jayson Werth caught about knee high. Raul Ibanez had a very boring night in left as the Reds managed nary a flyball to that side of the outfield. Despite a walk, he needed only 104 pitches to complete the no-hitter. 79 of those pitches were strikes and 19 of those strikes were swinging strikes. 

In many ways, the underlying numbers compare favorably to Halladay's perfect game. In that outing, he needed 115 pitches (72 of them strikes) to finish off the Marlins and despite 11 strikeouts on the night, he generated only eight swinging strikes total. Meanwhile, compare his GB:FB of 8:8 in that game to his 12:6 in last night's masterpiece.

How does Roy's no-hitter compare to Larsen's perfect game? Pretty well, actually. Larsen needed just 97 pitches, 71 of them strikes, to finish off the Brooklyn Dodgers. In addition, he generated 12 swinging strikes and recorded seven strikeouts. Larsen, who appears to have been a fairly extreme flyball pitcher, posted a 6:14 GB:FB and allowed four line drives. So, outside of Halladay's walk, these disparities in swinging strikes and linedrives suggest that Halladay was a good bit more dominant last night than Larsen was in his perfect game. Larsen edges Halladay in WPA, however, with a .59 to Roy's .306 as the Phillies staked Roy to an early 4-0 lead while the Yankees supplied Larsen with only two runs -- one each in the fourth and sixth innings. Of course, one cannot forget that Larsen's perfect game came in the World Series, but I would argue that Roy's no-hitter in his first career playoff appearance is quite impressive in its own right. Appropriately, however, Halladay and Larsen each posted game scores of 94 in their respective gems. 

Finally, for anyone who might see fit to complain about the strikezone last night (cough, Cabrera, cough), read it and weep: 

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I love technology these days that can so quickly disprove something that was obviously false (in regards to Halladay getting so many calls).

by JoshuaR on Oct 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Great work.

What’s the highest game score ever in a postseason game, I wonder. Livan Hernandez in the Eric Gregg game?

by taco pal on Oct 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I just read this today—98 is the highest score and it was by Clemens. Finger had a story on it.

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by doubleh on Oct 7, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit. look at ruth’s wpa. that’s insane.

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by layout ultimate on Oct 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was amazing. 14 innings and only four strikeouts. If only the Red Sox had realized what a player they had.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

much love for the caption.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Very Cool - Welcome to the Playoffs "Doc" Halladay

I’m not a Phils phan, but I’ve been a Halladay fan for years. He’s been overlooked for years because he played in Toronto, but he is one tough pitcher and has always seemed like a class act to me. I got home from work and saw on the mlb network crawl that he had gone six without giving up a hit and immediately switched over to the game. Magnificent effort, richly deserved.

by d_c_guy on Oct 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome

Only the 2nd greatest pitching outing in MLB Playoff history, that’s all…..

by egalenty on Oct 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

you don’t buy the argument that 10 innings of shut out ball in game 7 of the world series qualifies for a top spot?

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Morris 1991?

If so, that omission surprised me, too. I found that game in Baseball Reference and Morris “only” earned a GameScore of 84 for his ten innings of 7-hit ball in that 1-0 win.
Maybe it’s me, but any stat that lists a Roger Clemens one-hitter in game four of an LCS as the greatest postseason pitching performance is a flawed metric. Dominant yes, top performance all-time, give me a break. Plus, it’s Roger Clemens.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the mikes was arguing that it belonged closer to the top because of the pressure situation.

I’m assuming that game scores don’t factor in ‘pressure’ – morris gave up 7 hits – halladay gave up 0 – and besides, as i understand it , pitchers who have never pitched in the playoffs often fail their first time out.

In addition the rays have a distinct advantage because of their experience

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, the average leverage index for Morris’s start was 1.55 which ranks above all of the aLI’s on this list: http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/8582.

His WPA of .84 would be third only to Ruth and McNally.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 7, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what any of that means so I don’t know if you’re giving credit to morris or not :)

That pitch chart is intersting, I wonder how they accomplish that as every single pitch thrown has it’s own ‘strike zone’ up and down. I wonder if it’s an average

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, an aLI above 1 means more pressure, 1 is normal pressure, below 1 is low pressure…due to the score and baserunners and stuff. So an aLI of 1.55 basically means he was pitching under a shit load of pressure throughout the game. Though I don’t know if that’s what Mike and Mike meant when they were talking about “pressure”.

WPA is similar in that it measures how much a given player contributed to probability that his team would win the game. Higher is better, obviously.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe what they meant by pressure was the fact that it was game 7 of the world series and the other guy (or guys) pitched pretty well too (but who remembers them huh?) since it was 0-0 in the 10th

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And thank you for explaining, part of my off season training when I get through statistics principles is to understand some of this stuff and apply it to some ‘fun’ research just to have practice with stuff

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

That helps put Morris’ performance up there. Something about those extra innings affairs that keeps you on the edge of your seats – when the starter goes the distance it has to rank high. Since Morris did it in 1991, I wonder if any starter has gone more than nine innings in a playoff game – probably not, as I think I would remember it if it happened. By the same token I can’t remember the last time a starter went more than nine innings in a regular season game – Randy Johnson maybe or Greg Maddux? I could see Oswalt doing it if necessary tomorrow.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitcher and hitter speicalization, pitch counts, i mean sheesh, did the league leader in either the AL or NL for complete games hit 10 this year?

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Mulder pitched 10 innings once like 5 years ago, I’ll try to find the game log.

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by FuquaManuel on Oct 7, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN200504230.shtml

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by FuquaManuel on Oct 7, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only threw 101 pitches in the game. Wow.

by taco pal on Oct 7, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keith Law mentioned a game today

July 22nd, 1997, first game of a double header against the Cubs. Maddux threw 76 pitches (63 for strikes) earning a line of: CG, 6K, 5H, ER.

barely above 8 pitches per inning. Jeez

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 7, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Toledo- that is just insane.

by dannijd on Oct 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Five years ago

Nice. And he got the win. I won’t mention who served up the game-ending hit.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ten innings

Out of curiosity I checked Johnson and Maddux to see if they ever went into extra innings. I found that Randy Johnson had exactly one 10 IP game (9/26/93) and didn’t even get the complete game for it. He threw 129 pitches, but that appears to be about his average that season. In 22 seasons, Johnson led his league in complete games four times.
Maddux, on the other hand, had four games where he went 10 or more innings, the longest being 10.2. In 1988 he pitched a10-inning shutout and won 1-0, then the very next game he pitched shutout ball into the 11th inning before yielding 5 hits in a row to lose 3-0. In 1989 he again went 10 shutout innings and got a 1-0 win that was saved by Mitch Williams. Finally, his last extra inning performance was in April 1993 when he went 10 innings and got a no decision. Pitch count? The game he went 10.2 innings he threw 167 pitches, six days after throwing 134. The one in 1993 only took 115 pitches. Maddux somehow survived these tortures and pitched in 23 seasons; he led the NL in complete games twice.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly, Maddux went on the DL for the first (and maybe only?) time in his career in something like 2003.

by phatj on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

April 5, 2002, for inflamed nerves in the lower back. And it was a postdated DL stint; he was reactivated on April 12.

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by The Dark on Oct 8, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love this piece of writing
To say he made history doesn’t do this justice. To say he pitched the second postseason no-hitter in the history of the sport doesn’t begin to describe it. To say he pitched a baseball game that people will talk about for the rest of his life doesn’t truly capture the magnitude of it.

by elpikiman on Oct 7, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post and point well taken. It’s almost too difficult to pen words that sufficiently captures last night’s outing

by Boundforbeach on Oct 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

uh, yeah, sure

Morgan: Do you think I could come into the clubhouse after the game and display my ass for both those veterans and the younger guys?

Baker: Well, Joe, you are on the payroll of the team, and you're a legend, so I suppose — holy shit!

[Joe has appeared next to Dusty, in the dugout, completely naked]

Morgan: Hey.

by TradeAndruw on Oct 7, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry I don’t know how to resize. Haven’t used html since jr year of high school

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by layout ultimate on Oct 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

More about Larsen and his perfect game here.

by David S. Cohen on Oct 7, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks David. Great stuff.

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by FuquaManuel on Oct 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

So different from Halladay

Larsen’s overall performance in the 1956 World Series is certainly one of the strangest combinations. Larsen also started game two and contributed to what has to be one of the biggest blown leads in World Series history. Staked to a 6-0 lead going into the bottom of the 2nd, Larsen couldn’t get through the inning, as the Dodgers scored six unearned runs and eventually won the game 13-8. Larsen was not charged with any earned runs so he finished the Series with 10.2 IP and an ERA of 0.00. In game two Larsen walked two in the first inning, then got a double play. In the second inning he gave up one hit, two more walks, and there was one fielding error by the Yankee first baseman. Manager Casey Stengel yanked him with one run in and the bases loaded and two outs. And this was the pitcher whose name has been forever linked with perfection in the World Series.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Opposing lineups

A big difference in the two games are the lineups that Larsen and Halladay faced. Larsen faced a Dodgers’ lineup that had a collective 96 OPS+. Halladay faced a lineup that had a 108 OPS+ this year.

by David S. Cohen on Oct 7, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Technically, those are the OPS+ figures for the two teams’ offenses, rather than their starting lineups, but that doesn’t change the overall point: the lineup that Halladay faced was clearly better than the lineup that Larsen faced, even relative to each era. The average OPS+ of the Dodgers’ eight regulars was 112. The average OPS+ of the Reds’ eight regulars was 117.

A lot of people say that Larsen faced a “lineup of Hall of Famers” but that’s a misleading statement. By 1956, Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese were 37, and Roy Campanella was 34. The Dodgers had an okay lineup that year, but they mainly won with pitching.

by taco pal on Oct 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WS is different from NLDS

Missanelli made a great point today. In those days the WS was the first time the teams ever faced each other. It was easier for Larsen to throw past their hitters as they had never seen him. Not so for Roy, whom the Reds had seen three times.

by SandPhlea on Oct 7, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

would have pitched a perfect game.

by Off_The_Hook on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Freak just put together a “gamescore” higher than Doc.

by quakerfan on Oct 8, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, a lower margin for error. 14 K’s in a 1-0 game…dang. Masterful stuff.

by Trev223 on Oct 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not diminishing Timmah at all, because he is sick, but I wouldn’t say the Braves offense is as sick as the Reds, though.

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 2-hitters and a no-hitter all within the first 2 days of the playoffs. They should come up with some catchy name for this like, maybe, “The year of the pitcher!I Can Haz Offense?”

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by layout ultimate on Oct 8, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

As great a game as Lincecum pitched (and as happy I am with the result), I would have rather it not have been marred by the blown call as it was. That safe call on Posey’s stolen base that led to the only run of the game is going to be analyzed for quite a while.

How ironic is it that after managers get tossed in two straight games after no ejections for 5 years, an obviously blown call that went against the Braves led to no in game controversy, and Bobby Cox didn’t even leave the dugout? I never thought I’d see the day where Cox was the cooler head. =p

At least the Braves themselves seem to be taking it in stride, realizing that continued defensive blunders and a non existent offense will not them a series win.

by RaptorLC on Oct 8, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

From what I read today...

Cox did not cone launching out of the dugout to argue because from his angle he could not tell that Posey was out and none of the fielders were arguing it. I was disappointed both in the missed call (how many more of those are we going to have before replay gets expanded?) and because I was betting on a Cox ejection to go with Madden and Gardenhire’s.

by dannijd on Oct 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’s a good observation, and something I don’t really know about GameScore: does it take offensive comparison into account? I’d assume no, since the OPS+ of the 56 Dodgers was inferior to the OPS+ of the 2010 Reds, and Halladay and Larsen’s Gamescores are identical.

by Trev223 on Oct 8, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It does not. From teh Wikipedia:

Game Score is a metric devised by Bill James to determine the strength of a pitcher in any particular baseball game. To determine a starting pitcher’s game score:

   1. Start with 50 points.
   2. Add 1 point for each out recorded, so 3 points for every complete inning pitched.
   3. Add 2 points for each inning completed after the 4th.
   4. Add 1 point for each strikeout.
   5. Subtract 2 points for each hit allowed.
   6. Subtract 4 points for each earned run allowed.
   7. Subtract 2 points for each unearned run allowed.
   8. Subtract 1 point for each walk.

by phatj on Oct 8, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice explanation

So, a perfect game has a base line of 87 points plus 1 point for every strikeout. Unless you have someone pitching more than 9 innings or breaking the strikeout record, that sets the upper limit of GameScore at 107 if you had a perfect game with 20 strikeouts. And any score over 100 is downright amazing.

by phillyinportland on Oct 8, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Golf clap.

2 of the best postseason pitching performances ever in two nights. I love Timmy.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 8, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huge Lincecum fan, too. He’s just fun to watch.

by Trev223 on Oct 8, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ranks up there with Lee and Hamels in the beautiful, most athletic mechanics department.

by j reed on Oct 8, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good show. Now finish them, Giants!

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

It's so great to see such great pitching performances these playoffs so far...

Lee’s 10-K performance, Halladay’s no-no, and Lincecum’s 14 K’s in the first two days of the playoffs. Year of the Pitcher for sure.

by Minor Leaguer on Oct 8, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

rangers collectively threw a 2-hitter today

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by layout ultimate on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea

Man, and I watched that game too! Every day a pitcher overshadows the Rangers’ pitcher(s) performance(s)!

by Minor Leaguer on Oct 8, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Reds’ bullpen and the Braves didn’t exactly do too shabby either. Essentially the Yankees/Twins games are the only ones where you can reasonably expect both teams to score.

by RaptorLC on Oct 8, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I expected the Rays to put up more than 1 run in two fricking games,

by j reed on Oct 8, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

So did I, but apparently they’d prefer to do their collapse into ineptitude in the first round this year rather than the WS.

by RaptorLC on Oct 8, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, other than a few good defensive plays that robbed them and the odd well hit ball here they are indeed collapsing. Not to diminsh the Rangers who are crushing the ball and pitching well, the Rays are a better team the want they have brought thus far.

by j reed on Oct 8, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted to comment on how good his changeup was today, but I’m going to have to do some sorting to get out numbers because a lot of pitches were mis-classified.

Regardless, those, like his other pitches, were incredible. I can finally say that I haven’t seen Halladay pitch better than he did yesterday.

by Shazbot on Oct 8, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Bottom line, the advance sabermetric world just needs to standardize pitch f/x data. I will always take it with a grain of salt until they do. The need to grow a pair and start defining things with more rigor and data collection should be where it starts. 1 system for classifiying and tracking pitches period.

by j reed on Oct 8, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do have more accurate sources. I forget the name, but Fangraphs uses scout-sorted pitch type data, which is much, much, better. They just aren’t on BB, which I like to use the day after a start when looking at pitches..

by Shazbot on Oct 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hey, I re-read that comment I made and thought “wow, I sounded awfully dickish”. Didn’t intend it that way esp. as I know the pitch f/x is your thang. Just voicing my frustratiion about the mystery that is pitch f/x once I read that alot of Halladay’s pitches required reclassification. Which when I stepped back and thought it over made sense. He was throwing his pitches like I hadn’t seen before. One of them that he struck out Rolen with I swear he made up – looked like a curve change up/ screw ball. In terms of pitch f/x, I’m interested to see if any relationships between batted balls and ball spin exist – like is there any correlation between pitched ball spin and distance travelled, distribution, types, and velocities of batted balls.

by j reed on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you guys ever see this?

I don’t remember it. Buzz Bissinger called Halladay “”http://thefastertimes.com/mlb/2010/10/06/will-buzz-bissinger-apologize-to-roy-halladay-for-calling-him-douche-juice/" target="new">douche juice"?

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

link fail—try again

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never heard of Buzz Bissinger, and I’ve definitely never read his tweets on Halladay. I know that in Toronto he never really had a “life-or-death” game in terms of standings and playoffs, but it was wrong for him to say that before joining the Phillies “Halladay has never won a difficult contest in his life”. I don’t know if Bissinger realized that for 9 years, Halladay faced the Yankees, Red Sox, and later Rays more than any other team. I don’t think those were exactly walks in the park.

And on top of all that, Halladay was always a class act here in Toronto both when he was a Jay and after he decided to leave. That’s why I’m here cheering for the Phillies, and that’s why the guys (and gals) at Blue Bird Banter and around the city here have absolutely nothing but good things to say about him (cf. Chris Bosh, Vince Carter). I don’t think many “douche juice bottom feeders” get such a good reception from a city after asking to be traded from it.

Well, at least Bissinger did apologize right after Halladay’s no-no…. Hope that crow tasted good, Buzz.

by Minor Leaguer on Oct 8, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buzz Bissinger wrote “Friday Night Lights” and was a former Phila Inquirer writer—also got into it on Costas’ show about bloggers (calling them derogatory things). Guys’ a bit off the hinges and shoots completely from the hip with no filter, but he’s a good writer. Just upsetting to see that he said this; he must have been crying over the trade of Cliff Lee.

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually read “Friday Night Lights” and thought it was okay, but he’s not the second coming of Truman Capote. The movie was well done, but I never got caught up in the TV show, which seemed like another high school drama centered on the athletes. I don’t think I’m going to waste my time looking into this more, but I hope Bissinger realizes his comments are heard and acts accordingly.

by phillyinportland on Oct 8, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Douche Juice?

What?

Awesome. I’ve got to start using that phrase regularly.

by Phrozen on Oct 8, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like the phrase, but definitely not for Doc. I mean, if he had called Vic that, or even Madson for his earlier chair kicking transgression, I could see it. But Doc? No way.

And quite frankly, it’s a bit pot calling the kettle black I’d say.

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no. I’m not defending Buzz’s use to describe Doc. I just think it’s a choice phrase, is all.

by Phrozen on Oct 8, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Talking Chop postgame thread is hilarious tonight. They issued a fatwa on Buster Posey because he acknowledged that the umps blew the call.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 8, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

It is a crappy way to lose a game, though, I admit. But it’s not Posey’s fault the umps blew it. They’re just mad b/c he’s the better rookie.

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was fucked. Robot umps, ahora. Still, getting mad at Posey is weak, and the calls for violent retribution are disturbing.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 8, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty par for the course, though, eh? They were just calling for same last week against the Phils. Here I thought only Philly fans were bipolar nutjobs. /nat’l media’d

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by doubleh on Oct 8, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, wishing for violence, horrific injuries, or entire teams being involved in plane crashes (preferably in a meteor-like strike into another team’s stadium while warm-ups are occurring between every other playoff team in the league) are the most CLASSY things on the planet.

by RaptorLC on Oct 8, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And another perspective on this besides CLASS

Posey was out. Obviously so. Still, he was called safe, and obviously he wasn’t going to argue it. That’s how the sport goes sometimes, whether it’s a weirdly hit ball that’s called foul when it really wasn’t or two checked swings called strikes by a replacement ump. Shit happens really.

At least Posey didn’t flinch from a pitch that he hit foul and immediately drop his bat and grasp his arm in mock pain. He took the call (and was lucky to not blow out his knee with that piss poor slide) as it was an went with it.

Yeah, it was a blown call that went against the one team I despise more than any other team in this planet. I can sympathize that they’re mad about it, but there was no wrong doing on the part of the Giants in general and Posey in particular.

The point is Lincecum still owned them handily and their defense still screwed every poor little pooch they could find. Baseball that bad still won’t win games in the postseason. So yeah, fuck their jihad. Shit happened, and they lost a game that their performance clearly showed they had no right to win anyway.

by RaptorLC on Oct 8, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Posey’s actually from Atlanta. I guess that doesn’t buy any goodwill.

by taco pal on Oct 8, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Lincecum's Game Score from last night

Was actually higher than Roy Halladay’s from Wednesday night. Doc had a game score of 94, and temporarily sat at 4th on the list of best postseason games. Lincecum’s game score was from last night was a whopping 96, and sits at 4th now, just one point behind Clemens, McNally and Ruth.

Halladay’s game was better (how could a no-hitter not be), but just to put Licecum’s performance in perspective.

by Fatalotti on Oct 8, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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Washington Nationals
@ Philadelphia Phillies

Tuesday, May 22, 2012, 7:05 PM EDT
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Jordan Zimmermann vs Roy Halladay

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 70.

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