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Phillies Ace Roy Halladay Wins 2010 NL Cy Young Award Unanimously

Halladay in his final start of the year, when he beat the Giants to extend the Phils' season basically on one leg. Not his greatest performance by any stretch, but maybe his most impressive.

Update: Welcome, Farkers!  UFIAs to the left.

The Baseball Writers Association of America today made official what pretty much everyone’s known all year: Phillies ace Roy Halladay was the National League’s best pitcher in 2010. Doc won the Cy Young Award, the second of his career, on the strength of a superb season in which he went 21-10 with a 2.44 ERA, leading the NL in wins, complete games (9), shutouts (4), innings pitched (250.2) and strikeout-to-walk ratio (7.30).

In a very slight surprise, the vote was unanimous, with Halladay receiving all 32 first place votes from the Baseball Writers Association of America.  Cardinals starter Adam Wainwright placed second, with the Rockies Ubaldo Jimenez coming in third.

Roy Oswalt placed sixth, while Phillies left-hander Cole Hamels was not named on any of the BBWAA ballots.
 
In his first season with the Phillies after 11 with the Toronto Blue Jays, Halladay proved fully worth the package of talented prospects the Phils parted with to acquire him. He threw a perfect game against the Marlins in May, and fired a no-hitter in his first career playoff start against the Reds to spark the Phils’ three-game NLDS sweep. Halladay was an astonishing 14-1 in 15 starts against NL East opponents.
 
Halladay is the first Phillie to win the Cy Young since Steve Bedrosian in 1987. He joins Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, and Gaylord Perry as the only pitchers to win the award in both leagues; Halladay was the AL winner in 2003.

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Points
Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 32 224
Adam Wainwright, St. Louis Cardinals 28 3 1 122
Ubaldo Jimenez, Colorado Rockies 4 19 8 1 90
Tim Hudson, Atlanta Braves 3 13 4 39
Josh Johnson, Florida Marlins 5 5 9 34
Roy Oswalt, Houston Astros/Philadelphia Phillies 1 3 5 14
Brian Wilson, San Francisco Giants 1 5 7
Heath Bell, San Diego Padres 1 1 4
Mat Latos, San Diego Padres 1 2 4
Brett Myers, Houston Astros 1 2
Tim Lincecum, San Francisco Giants 2 2
Bronson Arroyo, Cincinnati Reds 1 1
Matt Cain, San Francisco Giants 1 1

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Rec’d because you had this cued up before the announcement. Now that’s positive thinking!

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

In other news:

the sky is blue.

All jokes aside, a well earned award.

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by EREX21 on Nov 16, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

And, The Phillies organization has now won more NL Cy Young awards than any other team in baseball.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Really? That is totally shocking to hear.

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by EREX21 on Nov 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

errrr… any other “national league” team you mean.

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No AL player has ever won an NL Cy Young, so I figured that went without saying. Besides the most any AL team has ever won is 6 times (Orioles).

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what's your source?

I don’t doubt you, I’d just love the reference point, since ever list I’ve ever found has it broken down by the individual winners, not by team.

Sure, I could figure it out with a count, but… well… I’m lazy.

by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Nov 17, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I figured it out with a count from the official site.

by Cormican on Nov 17, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The Phils have wone the most NL Cys, but counting the years when only one was given out for all MLB (1956-1966), the Dodgers have 9:

Dodgers: 9 (5 combined, 4 NL)
Phillies: 7 (7 NL)
Braves: 7 (1 combined, 6 NL)

with 6: Baltimore (6 AL) and Boston (6 AL)
with 5: Arizona (5 NL), Yankees (2 combined, 3 AL), Oakland (5 AL)

by schmenkman on Nov 17, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

That it’s unanimous is pretty sweet.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 16, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

sort of surprised Jimenez didn’t garner more second place votes

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

x 2

I was also surprised by how few votes Johnson got.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I called it!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Nov 16, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

looks like the last unanimous Cy Young winner was…..Jake Peavy in 2007. kind of a surprise; I don’t think I would have guessed that.

(guessed that he was unanimous, not guessed that he won, that is.)

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely!

The best news I have heard all day.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

also....

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/15/roy-halladay-named-mlb-2k11-cover-athlete/

Hes gonna be on the next MLB game cover.

Samesis

http://orangecrunch.blogspot.com/

by JpH89 on Nov 16, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully they can make a good game for once.

MLB2K series has been stinky.

by grucifer on Nov 16, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Disgraceful.

No votes for Hamels.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Really, especially when you consider Myers even got a 4th place vote. Check out the big brain on Brett!

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

and a third for Heath Bell?!

where are our homer BBWAA members to throw Hamels a couple down-ballot votes?

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

a little surprised to see Josh Johnson place so low.

by yolacrary on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly— with votes for Brian Wilson, Heath Bell, and Brett Myers on the ballot, I am really surprised Hamels did not even get one vote.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be all that upset about no votes for Hamels if I didn’t see Cain and Arroyo (!) with 5th place votes.

Oh well, ’twasn’t to be I suppose.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 16, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And for the record, I’d have gone Halladay, Wainwright, Johnson, Jimenez, Lincecum; it’s perfectly reasonable to leave Hamels off your ballot with the number of quality candidates this year. Just not in favor of Cain or Arroyo.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 16, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d have gone Halladay, Wainwright, Johnson, Lincecum, Hamels. Eff Ubaldo. ; )

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

as long as we're sharing our ballots

I’d have done Halladay, Wainwright, Jimenez, Johnson, Hamels.

I just don’t think Lincecum was as good this year, largely because of his mediocre walk rate. also I’m a homer ;)

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have went Halladay Wainright, Johnson, Oswalt, Jimenez. While I would have left Hamels off, I am more surprised by who he was left off in favor of.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but a 4th place vote for Brett Myers. REPRESENT!

by Wet Luzinski on Nov 16, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Man, what’s up with that? Kenny Powers ain’t fourth place. Kenny Powers is a fuckin’ champion.

by ThinMountainAir on Nov 16, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yeah, and YAY ROY YAY ROY!!!!

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

I see Wainwright got his annual second place finish.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Congrates Halladay

This year was a no brainer.

Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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by Mini Hulk on Nov 16, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

according to Zolecki

“Halladay learned he won Cy Young on golf course with Chris Carpenter, Mike Sweeney and Chris Young.”

kind of a random foursome, no?

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

there’s a hug joke in there somewhere

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Four guys who have never been in my kitchen!

/Cliff Claven’d

by Wet Luzinski on Nov 16, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

there’s a hug in there somewhere

/Fixed

Formerly known as JFein

by Justin F. on Nov 16, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Keepin it Classy... Braves style
Congrats to Halladay one of the few Phillies I can respect.

by mvhsbball on Nov 16, 2010 2:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions

by Boundforbeach on Nov 16, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

That guy mvhsbball is really an insufferable schmuck.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess they are mad no one really cares they won or watched.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Nov 16, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m sure they’re really broken up about that one.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Nov 16, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I was so heartbroken that the 2008 World Series got such low ratings that the Phillies winning just had no effect on me whatsoever.

by ThinMountainAir on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I cry myself to sleep every night, into my HUGE PILLOW.

(PS Grats Doc & Phillies fans.)

It's Johnnie Walker inside.

by Lies and Perfidy on Nov 16, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Kind of like the 2008 series?

Overplayed memes:
EASTCOAST BIAS
2002 WS CANCELED
Blue Jays want all our player that we don't utilize correctly

by say hey nation on Nov 22, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope that is tongue in cheek since Lincecum’s regular season was not special. Postseason performance was awesome though.

Congrats to Roy!

by JoshuaR on Nov 16, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure MCC has ever posted an article not ripe with sarcasm.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool. Don’t really venture over there so would not know.

by JoshuaR on Nov 16, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to reset my snarkometer each time I wander over there, because it gets overloaded.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Nov 23, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

McCovey is heavily snark infested waters.

by Cormican on Nov 24, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim’s postseason wasnt really ALL THAT

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed...

His first round performance was amazing and his Game 5 WS performance was great, but his NLCS appearances and his first appearance in the WS were a lot more ordinary.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed…

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he grates on people, but I don’t mind him that much. It’s a schmucky way to offer congrats, but I’ve seen more aggravating comments.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just nonstop passive-aggression with him, though.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. It just doesn’t bother me. That’s his issue.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s worse, IMHO, is that he’s part of the leadership on that board. I’m not really impressed with the maturity level or the CLASS.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s like the Phillies plyers wronged him personally or something, it’s really weird. It’s hard for me to think of things that any of these Phillies have done that would make them unworthy of respect. Moreover, he acts like people actually care about who he respects—like he is some universal arbiter of who is worthy of respect and who isn’t. Pretty narcissistic, if you ask me.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems they are too busy debating whether to give up 2 C-level prospects or throw in D-level prospect to get Justin Upton. I know fans overvalue their prospects, but they really take the cake.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I get annoyed at the very notion that I should respect any of these guys. The TCers are the worst perpetrators here, what with their constant refrains of how we MUST RESPECT BOBBY. There are aspects of the current Phillies squad that I respect, such as their work ethic and commitment to charity, but I don’t really respect any of them as people. In the end, their job is to play a game for a king’s ransom. Not really the way to earn respect, IMO. The list of baseball figures for whom I have real respect is very short.

by ThinMountainAir on Nov 16, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So just to recap, over the past 5 seasons, the Phillies have: 4 division titles, 2 NL Pennants, 1 WS win, 2 MVPs, 1 Cy Young. Good times, I’d say.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Upton

So apparently Justin Upton’s name is being floated out there as possibly available. If you’re Ruben do you call and offer Cosart + Singleton?

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, sure. Why not?

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok to rephrase, do you think that’s something that could be a workable offer? I think it makes a ton of sense.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

More like Cosart and Singleton and Brown

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Nov 16, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I would consider that. One of those times I wish we didn’t trade Taylor.

by Cormican on Nov 16, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s the point of trading Brown. He’s way cheaper than Upton and provides the same upside.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And we’d still have a hole in the OF after Ibanez leaves.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

upside

In no way shape or form do Upton and Brown have the same upside. Brown’s upside is significant, probably All-Star level, but Upton MVP/Hall of Fame.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Nov 16, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh come on, the only exceptional thing he has going for him is his youth. He has a low 800s OPS for his career and had the same production as Ibanez last year. MVP/HoF talk is way premature.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Upton’s UPSIDE is MVP/HoF. Nowhere did WC say he WILL be an MVP/HoFer.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

sure, the same production…plus excellent defense and speed. AND HE’S 22. Upton’s a terrific player.

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. He’s 9 days older than Brown and has been holding his own in the majors (or better) for a few years now. He’s a stud.

by phatj on Nov 16, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Braves get Uggla

For Infante and Mike Dunn.

Gee, thanks Marlins, way to stick it to us for utterly destroying you in September.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

That’s a ridiculously awful move. Robbery.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Nov 16, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

wow...

hell, the Phillies could have topped that without breaking a sweat.

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, the Fish absolutely did not want to give Fuggla a raise.

by ThinMountainAir on Nov 16, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You’d think they could get a better deal from someone outside the divsion.

by Nikk.m on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

and this is just after giving John Buck—John 30-Year-Old-Career-.301-OBP Buck!—a three-year $15M contract for some reason.

I know the Marlins have a good track record on recovering from fire sales, but this is some Major League-level fuckery right here.

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They tried to get Uggla to stay- offered him a 4 year, 48 million dollar contract. The Buck contract makes no sense, though- just because the commissioner orders you to spend does not mean you should make crap decisions!

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 6:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

well, just because he wouldn’t sign an extension doesn’t mean you have to trade him. much less for a 29-year-old utility infielder and a long-shot reliever.

by perfectdepth on Nov 16, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading him was an attempt to get something of value for a player they could not (or choose not to) afford to keep, similar to the reason the Blue Jays traded Halladay last off season, or any of a bunch of other off season/ mid-season deals. Trading him if they knew they could not re-sign him and did not see themselves contending next year is a good decision. Trading him this quickly and for very little value stinks.

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Especially when that utility player is only under contract for one more year.

What a fucking disgrace of a trade. I’m being about 70% serious when I say that the MLB should investigate it.

by PhillyFriar on Nov 16, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m on board with that. They have already been taken out of to the wood shed for using their revenue sharing to pay off debts. What’s to say there isn’t anything hinky going on. No way would this deal been passed in a fantasy league, that’s for sure!

by j reed on Nov 16, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

(I have nothing to add to what you guys have said, just wanted to point out my similar sentiments here).

by PhillyFriar on Nov 16, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow…it’s like the Marlins aren’t trying at all. Might as well have just given them Uggla for nothing and called it a day.

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by EREX21 on Nov 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuck...

Good move for the Braves. Any thoughts on how they will lay out the infield?

by dannijd on Nov 16, 2010 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

As it stands now:

1B: Freeman
2B: Uggla
SS: Gonzalez
3B: Prado

by ThinMountainAir on Nov 16, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured this is the lineup they would use. Assuming Chipper is retiring?

by Walcott on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

everything I’ve heard suggests that Jones intends to return. even if he does though, I doubt that the Braves are going to count on him for anything close to a full season. Prado could play left if/when Jones is healthy enough to start, I assume. Braves don’t have anyone else for left, do they? other than Diaz, if they resign him.

by perfectdepth on Nov 17, 2010 7:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

A good pick by the BBWAA. PHINALLY! Congrats Good Phight and congrats Doc.

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by Jeterian 2 on Nov 16, 2010 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

Well this was a no brainer. YAY for us!

by j reed on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Justin Upton....

It isn’t everyday you can trade for a 23 year old 5 tool All-Star caliber right fielder that is signed for the next 6 years at something like 51 million….oh, and he is a right handed hitter. Can you say Werth’s replacement? I would offer Rizzoti and 2 others (Brown if necessary) to get it done. I love prospects, but this guy is FRICKEN 23!!!! and proven. Your thoughts?

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by DirtyWaters on Nov 17, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

I love, love, love Upton

But I’m now convinced the cost will be high and not what I would like to see Rube do. Unless Kevin Towers plans to Uggla Justin Upton, I don’t see it happening.

by Cormican on Nov 17, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a wise assumption

In fact, D-Backs are reportedly seeking a “huge haul” for him. They need to be wowed or blown away

/Riccardi’d

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/107064

by Boundforbeach on Nov 17, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wishful thinking on Werth

Cataldi and Co. were musing about the possibility of the Angels or Red Sox picking up Upton, thusly lowering Werth’s market value, and driving him (Jayson) back into the arms of RAJ.

I’m guessing that’s to set up the inevitable Negadelphia reaction when Werth finally signs elsewhere.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Nov 17, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. If Boras is to be believed (cough, cough) there are several teams interested in Werth. If a big market team somehow gets Upton, then that just lessens the prospective suitors by one. The only way Werth runs “back into the arms of RAJ” is if he and his agent miscalcuate the market for him. RAJ has already (allegely) put Jason Bay money on the table for him. The problem isn’t the yearly salary, its the years. As long as he wants 5+ years on his contract, it would be foolish to give it to him. I’d rather see him offer up a very cost controlled Brown for Upton and see if Towers would blink.

by Boundforbeach on Nov 17, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I had predicted that the Phillies Roy Halladay will be the darling of the Baseball Writers Association at the annual voting for the NL’s best pitcher. Well 2010 was the year for Halladay, keep your head up. This is just the beginning

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