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Cliff Lee, Phillies Reach Agreement on Five Year, $100 million-plus contract. I'm freaking out. Can't breathe. Send help.

Smug. We has it.  (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

UPDATE: Deal believed to be worth in the neighborhood of five years, $100 million. Really. Yankees offer estimated to be 6-7 years, total value $150 million. Really really.

UPDATE UPDATE: Todd Zolecki reporting deal around five years, $120 million.

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: Jerry Crasnick reporting that Amaro is hard at work on a deal to ship Joe Blanton elsewhere, presumably in a salary dump.

Holy moley. T.R. Sullivan, the Texas Rangers beat writer for MLB.com, reports that the Rangers have been told that free agent pitcher Cliff Lee will be signing with the Phillies.

He's back, and he's ours.

The projected Phillies front four of Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt, and Cole Hamels had four of the top 12 SIERAs in MLB in 2010.  Lee's 10.28 SO/BB ratio was the best in baseball since Bret Saberhagen's 11.00 mark in 1994, and was the second best in modern baseball history.

This is obviously an incredible turn of events, and I don't really have much to tell you about Cliff Lee that you don't already know. Absolutely crazy.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Ant on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 AM EST reply actions  

Hallelujah

epic rotation is epic

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Dec 14, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

4 man rotation. lets burn ’em all out before the trade deadline, then trade for four more new aces

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

How about Fourmaldehyde or Four Horsemen

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As I said before – who’s the Human Torch…..Any Rocket From the Crypt fans out there…. help me out

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

the state of the art is on fire

by FearTheTurtIe on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

there it is……They can’t be the FF. No one need be the Human Torch

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

bring Eaton back.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Dec 14, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The Phantastic Four

I’m in favor.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

4 horseman of the apocalypse

is my favorite

"Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.
Sorry, but that’s simply not how it works."

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by sctrojan13 on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

you mean Phantastic Phour?

hehe, sorry for the fan. Pittsburgh fan here, and don’t love the Phils, but gotta respect Lee for what he did! Good for you guys- that should be one hell of a rotation…

by BurgherKing on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Please use the subject headline the next time you post a picture that big.

Thanks,
The Bandwidth Of Every CPU Reading This

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

You need to preach this at BSH….even on a new computer, it’s slower than a turtle running thru tar.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s still napping in the seats

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

zOMG

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Alleged deal is in the neighborhood of 5/100

I’m pretty pleased

by phatj on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

thats not too bad. a little risk, but certainly good

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

ReeaaLEE!!!

That is a LOT of $$$ left on the table.

“assuming” this is true, he will be absolutely adored in Philly.

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.
Trade Leighton.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Good shit, Philly.

May you have a Merry Cliffmas.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

What?

Is this for real?

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

Un-fraking-believable!

Said this in the old thread:

How awesome is Cliff Lee? He’s going to be beloved in this town. After the domination of the Yankees last year, and now to snub them, and probably more money (in the long run), to come here! WOW.

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phils- Bring back Cliff Lee!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

Five year deal from Les Bowen

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phils- Bring back Cliff Lee!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

How does RAJ do it?

The guy is a miracle worker

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

fucking pitchers…how do they work

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Smug level = geosynchronous orbit

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Possibly the best rotation in history...

Amen.

"This ------ game is over!"
- Chuck Bednarik

by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

I’m no baseball historian, but I find it hard to imagine there have been many that even come close.

by phatj on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Maddux, Glavine, Smotlz, and Avery would like a word with you.

"It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word."

-President Andrew Jackson

by justin007000 on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

No, this one’s better.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

My old .sig just got an upgrade.

And I feel your smug, RAJ.

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah for a second there I thought Avery, like from the NY Rangers….

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

1971 Orioles, four 20-game winners. Yes, a different era. Yes, a benchmark.

I felt like I thought it hit me - Chase Utley

by SandPhlea on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

From a AL heavy hitting lineup to this…in just 3 years?

I can’t comprehend

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

The loss to Giants and now were the uber pitching club

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

WARNING WARNING!!

Smug factor increasing at an exponential rate!

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

More confirmation:

http://twitter.com/evan_P_Grant

http://twitter.com/jonmorosi

Don’t know if I posted this here, but back when the trades happened when my friends asked me what I thought, I said that I had a feeling Amaro and Lee hatched a secret plan where Amaro said he needed to reboost the farm system but wanted him long term, so Lee pretended to be pissed off at the trade and they planned on him resigning after this year. I did not expect it to be true haha…

by youaretheman26 on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Nice call. I wondered if the deal with Seattle was just a rental but when you add Roy Oswalt instead of getting Lee back at the trade deadline it looked like the opportunity had passed. I’ve got a couple of stocks I’d like your opinion on. :)

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck lebrons decision!!!

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Fuck ESPN and their bullshit Favre love fest.

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

It is seriously pissing me off. and MLBN has some other fucking show on. the fuck is this.

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck 'em.

Life is good for Philly fans everywhere.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I think this is part of Amaro’s genius. Wait for a Favre related story to break (streak over!) then work the phones FTW.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

It just popped up on ESPN’s left sidebar in the upcoming stories that he signed with us!

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s on TV! It’s true!

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Guys who went to Stanford are geniuses.

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 3:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You thought there was pressure on the Phils to perform last year? Jesus…this year it’s gonna be historic..

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

YES!!!

This just made my night/didn’t believe it when I first heard it… but his is going to be an awesome rotation next year!!

by JLS89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

I am wearing my Halladay jersey all day tomorrow – hopefully I can find some masking tape and a Sharpie to turn it into a Lee jersey.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Ruin a perfectly good Halladay jersey…now if you can do it without ruining the jersey, fine…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Hence the masking tape.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

But the sharpie. Don’t ruin it with a sharpie.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh never mind, I get what you are doing. Carry on.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s a method to my madness.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

This is stunning. Absolutely stunning. And yet, so totally awesome.

Think about what happened. A top of the line pitcher just blatantly snubbed the Yankees to come to play for the Phillies for less money. Look how far this team has come in the past decade.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

I think that’s the best part of the whole deal… that he just completely turned away from the Yankees and taking less money (not like the money should matter anyways).

by JLS89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

This is insane, how is anybody going to beat us next year?

by The Legend on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Fucking unbeleevable.

by Nikk.m on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

Holy crapiola

Cause if this is a lie, if this is a joke, if this is your

idea of some cute little game…we’re finished!

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

Can’t stop laughing.

Smugzilla!

by dajafi on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

This just keeps getting better and better.

by ww2b on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 AM EST reply actions  

Not sleeping tonight.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

I was just about to turn in when the news hit. Glad I stayed up.

Just did a shot of Jameson 18 to celebrate.

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea i’m grabbing a beer to celebrate

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Same. I stepped away from the computer for the night to watch the end of MNF… saw that the “Yankees were out of it” on the top of SportsCenter…. which is still showing Favre right now, sigh.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a final at 10:30 tomorrow morning. This is horrible timing. Horrible.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's all help Justin

What’s the subject?

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully hes a sports management major and his class is about agency haha

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Secondary education/history major.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Multiple Intelligences, cooperative learning, standardized tests. all the “buzz words” you need to know

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by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

OT

Do you go to Temple, because I was actually thinking of changing my major to that. weird huh

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, Bloomsburg University. Smack dab in The Middle Of Nowhere, Pennsylvania.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Wal-Mart in Buckhorn = loaded with babes

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been to Buckhorn, though never in their Wal-Mart. I may have to take your ringing endorsement.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And journal! Journal about history! Write across the curriculum! It’s all gud.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Mustlim World to 1405

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

OOOH. Not a expert.

But I’m guessing the term “caliphate” might be useful in an essay.

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummayads = Damascus
Abbasids = Baghdad

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Abbasid Caliphate ended in 13th century BCE when Mongol invasion just wiped everything out.

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The Holy Crusades were neither particularly holy nor a crusade. Take that!

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh god. Does anyone understand what this means for the “Untitled Amaro Biopic”?

Production has apparently been halted to accommodate script re-writes.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

what’s his shrink gonna say?

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Now I gotta work up a mockublog about how Lee goes to visit the hermit Steve Carlton for the right to wear 32.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m picturing a trilogy inspired by “Lord of the Rings”, for some reason…

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Jesus ESPN, make Favre go bye-bye

Haven’t we seen this before?

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

No… this is the first time that a non bye week has went by for a Brett Favre led team without him on the field.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool…but I’ve spend the past three summers of my life watching ESPN talk about the same stuff.

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

God dammit I was just about to go to sleep

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by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

GOTTA GET TO THIS PAPER, IT HAS BEEN FUN GUYS

by RodeoJones on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

And it is on Sportscenter!!!!!!!

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

I know… I do not know how I feel about this deal…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, $20 million per is pretty damn worth it for 5 years.
And ridiculous rotation is ridiculous.

by philsandthrills on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

indeed. I’m just waiting til the there’s no reports of Orson Wells in the vicinity

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is there something above red on the smug advisory?

Wow. Wow. Wow. Just… wow.

Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

by wildcatlh on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I hope somebody hangs him from a pair of wrangler jeans.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we please call this staff the Phantastic 4

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

No

the Human Torch is too fucking lame

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

please

If anybody has the “bro” attitude its so Cole

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

good lord, why are they still on favre. It was just a games played streak and we have already seen him retire twice.

by Ben16 on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

I so hate them both.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

My summers are haunted by ESPFarve…

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Thought it was three times…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

you are correct. I lost count…

by Ben16 on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Buster Olney available to talk? Can’t imagine they have any analysts on call right now…..

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Why the hell doesnt the MLBN have something

by Nikk.m on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Back to the thrift store for some cheap Cliff Lee jerseys.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

I think we should just call these guys “the 4”

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

SPORTSCENTER CONFIRMED

It’s the next headline….hurry, Brett.,

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

It’s been the next headline for a while now, but finally!

by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

THIS!!!!!!!

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Phils may steal spotlight from Favre tomorrow! LMAO! How great is that?

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

I want to see a Ninja fight between Theo and Amaro.

The two Ninjas of the offseason! I am a Phillies fan kinda as my NL team and I want to thank you SO MUCH for making my day!

Look forward to meeting you guys in the World Series!

The crazy rotation and the 1000 run offense as someone said at OTM.

I love Lester, Pedroia, and Gonzo!!! ITS MAN LOVE!

by kraken613 on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

I never threw out my Lee player tee because it fit me so well, so I guess it was destined to be haha.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Ok, so who gets #34? Halladay or Lee?

by Jeff Hildebrand on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

let them both be 34. make a special exception.

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

All they have to do is trade numbers between turns.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve Carlton will decide.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OMG SHUT UP TRENT DILFER TALK ABOUT CLIFF LEE KTHXBYE

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

it’s dilfer man, dilfer

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Pentagon needs to call in a drone attack on Bristol.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

And wherever Favre is right now.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN’s prolly chock full of Yankees fans

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

And ESPN, really, a 5 second plug for Lee, and right back to Brett Farve. I hate this network.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

In fairness to ESPN, they do need time to gather the commentators and information to talk about it.

by Ben16 on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus, as much as we care about Lee, the end of Favre’s streak is a really significant story in a significantly more popular sport.

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

not to mention one that is currently playing games.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Sources indicate this is how the signing went

Ruben: Sure you can get like $60 million more from the yankees, but will they let you bat?

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The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!

by OuttaHere on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Photoshop in a giant cookie and it’ll be all good.

by philsandthrills on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

that’s on Rube’s van

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Cole is the sissy one on the left

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

His V8 Hummer devil-wagon

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

L-R: Hamels, Halladay, Lee, Oswalt?

by ww2b on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Hamels, Lee, Oswalt, Halladay (Pestilence, War, Famine, Death)

by Aphilfan on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

SF Giants fan here

Nice rotation fellas. Hopefully we match up again next post season

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Can't believe it

Just glad he’s not a Yankee…..

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by cesarhernandez on Dec 14, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Me either… I am staring at Sports Center in shock.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit this is amazing. I am so excited right now sleep is not happening right now

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

Reuben Amaro is the sneakiest son of bitch on earth.

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by JasonB on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention the smuggest.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

he impregnated my gf last night wile i was in the same bed. & just found out now

by DannyO on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Just reported- baby will be traded to Houston for prospects.

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i I hope all these fucking assholes who have been shitting on RAL

 after getting Halladay OSWALT and now Lee back realzie how good this guy is

Mr. Mayor, we're talking real wrath of God type stuff... Fire & brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers & seas boiling! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. .The dead rising from the grave...Human sacrifice, dogs cats living together.... Mass Hysteria!

by VAwxman on Dec 14, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

At least they should send him a thank you Christmas card.

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 3:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm just going to copy my current facebook status for the moment...

Cliff Lee? Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee! CLIFF LEE! cliffleecliffleecliffleecliffleecliffleecliffleecliffleecliffleeCLIFF LEE!!!!!

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

Somewhere out there, Kyle Kendrick is feeling very, very inadequate.

El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!

by OuttaHere on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Lol, he can be the show shine boy

by Nikk.m on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually he probably likes this. He now has zero pressure. He can’t screw things up no matter how much he sucks.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

damn you stole my snark

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Jamie Moyer fellas. Quickest turnaround in Tommy John Surgery history

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

OR barring the follow-up trade dannjd and others fear.

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

The sacrificial lamb will probably be Blanton and the trade will undoubtedly be colossally sh*tty. But it won’t hurt the club too much.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

if it’s blanton though, they will not have to make an overnight deal at the same time. They might actually try and get value this time.

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This is my hope. Blanton is now probably one of the two best starters available. Somebody will at least take the entire contract. No need to rush.

by phatj on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Buzzkiller

Pitching was hardly our problem last year….buttt it’s passed cliffleecliffleecliffleeee

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Still holding my breath until we see who isn’t on the team by the end of the day tomorrow.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

me too-

who do you think is going?

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Blanton is already packing his bags I suspect…

by Jeff Hildebrand on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Blanton, I’d say is most likely. But if it’s Hamels, I will be less than enthused. In fact, I will be furious.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

As will I… if Hamels goes, I officially hate this deal.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like if it was something that siginficant, we would have heard a rumor by now.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

We didn’t hear a substantive rumor about Lee coming here until about 6 or 7 hours ago though, so who knows.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

good point. I think that explains why I’m not bouncing off the walls yet. plus there’s the shock.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

he might be a big deal junkie but he couldn’t be that dumb…could he?

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s conceivable that Hamels could be moved for a young RH outfielder on the way up… right?

by phatj on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Good Lord, I bloody well hope not.

by ThinMountainAir on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too. I’m just trying to imagine a scenario where Hamels is traded for something that wouldn’t actually hurt the team.

by phatj on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

upton. that would be worth while

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

 its Blanton

 you REALLY think there is a chance its Hamele?

Mr. Mayor, we're talking real wrath of God type stuff... Fire & brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers & seas boiling! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. .The dead rising from the grave...Human sacrifice, dogs cats living together.... Mass Hysteria!

by VAwxman on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

And did you expect to have Cliff Lee again? A little unpredictable, our GM – so yeah, who knows?

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Name one logical reason they trade Hamels?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

justin upton. straight up

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Is this real life?

Jesus, you guys are going to be scary next year.

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

is this just fantasy?

El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!

by OuttaHere on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

no escape from LEEality

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Open your eyes
Look up to the skies
and LEE

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m Ruben Amaro (Jr.)
I have no

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Eas-LEE come
Eas-LEE go
LEE-tle high
LEE-tle low

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Any way the cash flows
Doesn’t really matter
To LEE

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Rotation is LEEthal

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No escape from realit-LEE

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

“I have four PITCHERS!”

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Brian Cashman: “I feel funny.”

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Blanton to Nats for Josh Willingham?

by PhilliesPhan610 on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

can they throw Zimm in there as well

by Nikk.m on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

lol- and strasburg just for the hell of it

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not? God must love the Phillies right now.

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 3:24 AM EST up reply actions  

As a Nats fan, let me just say, noooooooooo

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand Rizzo loves sinkerballers. You can have Kendrick.

by ThinMountainAir on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I’d rather have Kevin Millwood

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Zimm cannot wait until the Nats open their wallets to sign him … if they have any money after signing Werth

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Richest owners in baseball, though.

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

160 comments and climbing after midnight on a Monday. Awesome

How's your wife and my kids?

by BudVugger on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

They are still talking about Favre

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

I know its getting ridiculous

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

really…making Boyz 2 Men references instead of talking about Lee?

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

ya, and sportsnet is on some bike thing.

How's your wife and my kids?

by BudVugger on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy who won as many Super Bowls as Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

“I’ll take “Joe Namath” for $500, Alex"

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

How much time can you spend on a 21-3 game

by xEgan on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

i dont think they realize that this game fucking sucked

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

How much Favre could a Favre Favre if a Favre could Favre Favre?

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Where’d you get that? Did you make that?

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yesss! haha the ’shoping opportunities are endless

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

In certain extremist segments of the Yankees fan world, you just got targeted.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah cuz cole hamels is the shit!

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, somehow I just can’t get over how perfect the head angles are.

by ww2b on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

"We're going to try and knock the crap out of everybody." ~ Brian Urlacher

by HappyHuman on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHA, philly.com pulls Paul Hagan piece apparently

A couple of hours ago – maybe more recently – Payl Hagen posted that the Lee signing was probably just speculation. Can’t find the article on the Phils page now!

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST reply actions  

In fairness, he was probably right at the time. Things developed pretty quick.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Big ups to WholeCamels for his coverage tonight, also!

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1, Thanks WC

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Way to be all over this…This is why I check TGP errrday

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

This!

Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.

by Bud in TN on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t he say yesterday that he was supposed to be in court today?

Excellent work indeed by WC all day long. Both here and on Twitter.

Formerly known as JFein.
Author at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter

by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently around $50 million left on table by Lee

What a guy

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

It’s like the world series of poker.

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Shhh

do not let the players union hear this

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously these highlights are taking way too long

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

Especially for a shitty ass game. The Texans-Ravens game was way more interesting.

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha they arent even showing the game that was on their network. what failures

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

FTFW my fellow Philadelphians

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not to be a downer, but if the Yankees had just signed Lee ESPN would have devoted an entire channel to it.

by FearTheTurtIe on Dec 14, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Your not a downer, ESPN has become crap and we all know it

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Great, now their showing swearing Vikings. Huzahhh!

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Who would’ve thought the Vikings were angry after losing?

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Can you blame them?

we is talking about Philadelphia

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

So

So? I don’t care if there is no coverage, doesn’t change the fact we got Lee. Also, i’m guessing you’re a fellow terrapin?

El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!

by OuttaHere on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

shhhh, there should be a 48 hour embargo on the Terps after Sunday’s game.

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

For real. That was awful.

by FearTheTurtIe on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Let everyone forget about it until Opening Day for all I care.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

F Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suck on THAT one Yankees!!!!!!

by Kanayd on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

wonder what the reaction on Pinstripe Alley looks like.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Dejected.

Bitter.

"This ------ game is over!"
- Chuck Bednarik

by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The opposite of Over the Monster and here.

Fangraphs

Over the last three years, here are their WAR totals and where that ranks among starting pitchers:

Roy Halladay: +21.5 (#1)
Cliff Lee: +20.9 (#2)
Cole Hamels +11.9 (#16)
Roy Oswalt: +11.2 (#21)

Total: 65.5

Scary guys… SCARY

I love Lester, Pedroia, and Gonzo!!! ITS MAN LOVE!

by kraken613 on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh my dear lord

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

We have made Over the Monster waaaaay too happy the past two Decembers…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I imagine they must be having a .gif party right about now

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, they seem like they’re having a ball right now…although not nearly as happy as we are, quite obviously.

by ww2b on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen NY fans on other sites and they’re all like, “Good, let Philly overpay for that guy. He’s old and overrated.”

Bitter bastards. Suck it! Suck it hard! How does it feel to be on the losing end of the offseason sweepstakes for once?

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Old and overrated? How much do the Yankees still owe AJ Burnett? BAHAHAHA.

by ThinMountainAir on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

they got dick…no werth, no crawford, no lee. wow. nothing left but used Honda Accords left for them.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly as a Yankees fan

Kind of glad he didn’t take 7 years from us. Obviously would have liked to get him but it’s not the end of the world. Congrats though! Atleast he;s in the NL haha

by HighFlyers on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

to true, rec

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, Halladay got a single

But Cliff Lee would have hit a grand slam with only one runner on base.

Why isn’t it his turn in the rotation today?

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

meh, it was getting old. New schticks ahoy!

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

5 yrs 100mil+ with option for 6th year

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

where did you see this?

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The ESPN ticker, pretty much the only way they’re covering this. Losers and ban wagon Yanks fans

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

todd z

Source: Lee agreed to a five-year deal with a vesting option. Deal somewhere in the neighborhood of $120 million.

by phillyeaglesfan on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah… had the tv on, but can not see the crawl.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

csn sportsrise in 22 min

by J.D_Rentschler on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Hot Stove on MLBTV at 1am too

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman

   1. hearing lee’s deal to #phillies worth more than $100 mil. but working on final numbers. in any case, he is anything but money hungry

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

thank manuel players love him

by J.D_Rentschler on Dec 14, 2010 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

Hooray!!!!!!!!

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

The headline says it all…. REALLY!!!

Some of the pictures are really awesome. I want to see one with the RAJ SMUG ALERT Rating system with the highest smug filled up.

by Dozer3677 on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

I think we’re going to be way off the scale.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Let us embrace the smugness. We’ve conquered the baseball world

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

you bastards!

i don’t know how you pulled it off, but that’s the coup of the century.

thank god for football…..

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
FREE RORSCHACH44!!!

by wilddre22 on Dec 14, 2010 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

he just really really really likes to bat.

El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!

by OuttaHere on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m seeing 5/$100M with a $20M vesting option in 2016.

Formerly known as JFein.
Author at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter

by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

Dude rejected $23 mil a year with a 7th year option from NYY.

…wow.

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Heyman is now tweeting 5/$115 with a 6th year vesting option.

Formerly known as JFein.
Author at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter

by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s 5/$115M.

Phillies are not paying Lee below minimum wage.

Formerly known as JFein.
Author at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter

by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

FINALLY SC is talking about lee

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

Fucking Finally!

Eagles- 9-4, sitting in first place, and looking mighty fine
Phillies- Cliff Lee.... HE'S BAAAAAAAACK!

by bdawk4ever on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

What is this? Can’t we talk about Favre?

"Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." Frédéric Bastiat

by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

Phils were a stealth pursuer -Crasnick

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

As a Nats fan, I have to say this kind of confirms what the positive elements of the Philly fanbase have to say. If you’re great in Philly, you are historically beloved. If Cliff Lee is part of a World Series team any time during his tenure in Philly, he will be loved as much as any player in baseball history. Sounds like he had more fun there than anywhere else, I guess.

I’m fine with celebrating how he jilted the Yankees. That’s a wonderful thing because they are now they are lost in the wilderness. But why did he choose Philly over the Rangers? I’ve got to believe that he had a better deal from the Rangers. It seems that the fans there were great to him and it seemed like that was a good fit.

Phillies definitely have a better chance to win the World Series and it’s got to be fun to not have the weight of the world on you all the time while sharing the “ace” burden with equivalent talents.

I will continue to loathe most of the Philly fans I encounter in Nats Park, but I have respect that your organization was able to get this done. Today, you folks have earned your celebration and I hope that y’all stay classy elsewhere.

DC is a cursed land. We get broken McNabb, cashing in Werth and to top it off a 6 game Capitals losing streak heading into the Winter Classic and a daily expose of all the reasons why the Penguins are going to beat us.

Help us Bryce Harper, you’re our only hope.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, soul.

And yes, we’re pretty screwed for the foreseeable future at this point.

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

No, we’re not. Bud Selig is going to put a 5th wild team to tease teams just like us into having a bit more hope. People on this site know how the dollars will work out better than we do. But this kind of move makes Philly a place like St. Louis, the place where stars will take a discount. As long as the Howard deal doesn’t bite Philly in the behind, the window is wide, wide open for the next few years and beyond.

Been awhile since we’ve seen an extended dynasty in the NL. Philly’s got it.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose.

More pressure on Riz now to make a move, eh?

"Sure, mom, I settle down with a nice girl every night, then I'm free the next morning."

by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t be. Really, shouldn’t be but so moved by what else is in the division. This should give pause to them if they are thinking about dumping but so much money into some kind of run this year, though. You’re not going to outspend Philly unless you want to take a mighty wet bath.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Three words: Get Better Management

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a shame you’ve had bad experiences with Phillies fans at your park; however, I’ve been there with my family stealthfully as a Phillies fan and blended in just fine. You’d be surprised just how many opposing fans come into your ballpark without your knowledge.

Thanks for the congrats, and beat the Pens, please!

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been to Nats park as well. Even went to RFK for a couple games. I just like to watch and listen.

Let the beasting begin.

by TransplantedFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s many good fans in Philly. I’m gonna go out on a limb that as long as people realize that not all Philly fans are evil, you guys don’t mind being hated because your “beautiful”.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for all the backhanded compliments.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re welcome, I guess. Or not? I’m confused!

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

For much of my life I’ve wandered in that wilderness. Don’t miss it, but it does, in fact, build character. Goes around comes around. You do know that Bryce Harper is a jackass, right? Good ballplayer, but jackass.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Let’s just say that a fan of the Washington Redskins has learned to be flexible when it comes to character. He’s cocky. But he’s a big kid. Contact with direct contact with him at Spring Training thinks that he’s a nicer guy than Strasburg, FWIW.

I’ve got to see what riding the bus in the sticks and dealing with other big leaguers does to him before I pronounce him an irreconcilable jerk.

I’m going to go out on a limb to say that he’s a nicer human being than Albert Haynesworth and I’ll consider that progress.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I get it. As a dog owner and Eagles fan, I both enjoy Michael Vick’s talent as well as all the hits that don’t get called. So as long as you think win-win, it’s aaaight.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

interesting point of view

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

keep coming back for more.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

the caps will beat sh"tsburgh

by J.D_Rentschler on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You may understand my lack of confidence in this statement given the Pens unending win streak and the 7-0 destruction of my Caps I witnessed from the flippin’ Rags last night. That coupled with the comedy of losing a game on a missed extra point, the perpetual lack of resistance by the Wizards, and the sudden realization that getting Jayson Werth has moved my team not one iota towards the playoffs while now serving as a retirement party for Philly fans would leave me not but so optimistic about any of my teams right now.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Pens win streak has to end sometime. I’d like it to start with the Flyers and just keep it going for a few weeks…

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

whatever. at this point, i’m mostly focused on staying ahead of Tampa Bay. [facepalm]

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by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Watch out for ATL and pav

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Atlanta has been tough on us as well. The Buff is really somebody that the Caps don’t have much of answer for. So good for hockey and the Southeast division in general that they got out of the Kovalchuk business and improved their team so much.

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by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yep, kovy is now helping the flyers out

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you having the BB talk yet? Reminds me of the flyers last year…

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Depends on where you go. Capitals Insider has that a bunch from what I here. There’s an increasingly vocal minority of people within Japers’ Rink that’s starting to go there. I’m certainly not. To me, unless there’s a threat of falling out of playoff position or a lack of development from our young players, there isn’t a need to go there. The Flyers benefitted from Laviolette’s offering a change of philosophy and were at a place in the standings where desperation was warranted.

If they continue to look helpless once Green and Schultz get back and Hannan has had more time to adjust by mid to late January, then there will be talk.

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by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah we needed a change in system, but so do you in a way. defensively back-checking at least

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure. The caps are more responsible now than they were last year. They’ve improved their penalty kill as well. Problem is that they haven’t gotten as much secondary scoring and that’s led people to key on Ovie. For awhile, Semin was taking up the slack. Now they are very much out of whack. Injuries on the back line have players in roles that they are less accustomed to.

Problem is that the Caps are weak up the middle after Backstrom. They knew that in the offseason and they are either hoping Johnannsen or Perrault can show otherworldy progress or there is a move up their sleeves that they haven’t made yet. Unlike NJ, they have cap room to make other moves for this year at least.

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by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You basically need a 2c and after that you’re pretty much set once your d gets healthy. You’ll probably need to make a trade though bc Perrault will slide off as usual

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not that simple. Caps are gonna start having a bunch of young guys come up for deals soon and they don’t want to commit cap room. Plus they have the decision to make on Semin. He leads the team in goals. He also made a major contribution to loss number 5 with his 5 minute game misconduct. Bad Sasha!

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by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know, you have 12 UFA/RFAs to sign for next year. Bongos will demand a lot but Carter probably helped him out. That being said, he’ll still want at least 6.

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

2011 NLCS?

Lincecum vs Halladay
Cain vs Lee
Bumgarner vs Oswalt
Sanchez vs Hamels

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

The Giants had their fluke of a year. They return to sucking now. I fear the Reds more

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

As do I… their offense was scary good last year- they reminded me of the 2007 Phillies in some ways…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking “Watching the Reds, reminds me of our breakthrough”

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be nothing, but there is not a ton to challenge them in the Central. Cardinals have the pitching, but their offense is Pujols, Holliday and little else, the Brewers don’t have the pitching to challenge, the Astros are still young and the Cubs rebuilding… and the Pirates… well…

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN is asking the same shit – where’s the money coming from?

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

They invested it in bonds during the years of sucking

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

F yea I’ll write Lee a check my grandkids can cash

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was in section 207 B.55A paragraph 5: “Phillies shall be given an extra $100 million for economic stimulus. This will create happiness, leading to higher production and more purchases, leading to more jobs.”

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Protection rackets. Drugs. Prostitution.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Rube finally took my advice then.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Rube has a network of meth superlabs underneath CBP.

by ThinMountainAir on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah, I got him away from that shit. After 911, too much hassle to get all the chemicals. Leave it up to the Mexican Cartels.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

werth gone and now Blanton

Mr. Mayor, we're talking real wrath of God type stuff... Fire & brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers & seas boiling! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. .The dead rising from the grave...Human sacrifice, dogs cats living together.... Mass Hysteria!

by VAwxman on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the talk will finally end about the Phillies being cheap. And, finally a professional being reasonable about money. Wonder what Werth is thinking now????

by DeanH on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

“Man, the Strasburg and Harper dudes better be real”

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

He’ll be counting guaranteed money for longer than Clifford?

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I defer to WL’s comment earlier.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be so ironic if Joe Blanton got traded to the Yankees?

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by Steck It Out on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

I somewhat doubt that they are interested— they will probably go for Greinke now.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Joel Sherman on Twitter was saying the Yankees have no interest in Greinke.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

that might change when the pitch fork wielding fans beginning gatheriing outside Cashman’s house.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

True, but he did report that today given the Yankees pessimism, saying that Greinke was not their Plan B on the matter. They may have a plan B, but as of now, it is not Greinke.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Carl Pavano…

*snicker snicker

suckers

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

That is tonight when they are still dealing with the shock.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Their big off-season acquisition!

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Blanton is not equipped for AL East…

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

So excited!

"We're going to try and knock the crap out of everybody." ~ Brian Urlacher

by HappyHuman on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

Holy fuck. I can’t stop laughing at this deal and having 4 aces

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

the game is about pitching and defense. has been. will always be

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not belittling it, I’m laughing out of joy!

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

if i may go on the record again; I LOVE IT

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

So...

I guess this means we won’t get a big name OF….

just get something decent for blanton & maybe Kendrick. Worley can lose 20 games & no one would give a hoot

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

new nickname i heard just now from a facebook friend: R2C2

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

not bad

but four horsemen of the apocalypse jus has more of a doomsday sound for the rest of the NL.

by Off_The_Hook on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s pretty awesome.

But really, what will happen now? Who do we say goodbye to?

Don’t think about that now. CLIFF LEEEEE!

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

new level of smug

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Congratulations from another Giants fan

Here’s hoping for some truly epic matchups and the NLCS to end them all.

Also LOLYANKEES.

It's Johnnie Walker inside.

by Lies and Perfidy on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

So...

Blanton, Kendrick, and prospects we got for the Lee deal last year for Greinke?

by Off_The_Hook on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

heard Royals looking for you middle infield talent

by wilriv21 on Dec 14, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That leaves the Phillies out.

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

guess it has to be a 3-team trade, who needs OFs?

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Well this is going to ruin any chance of studying for my 8am final. Guess I’m pulling an all-nighter.

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

Good luck- what class?

by dannijd on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

public policy & administration(one class) and then I have philosophy later in the day

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

and thanks for the luck btw

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel your pain.

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You going through the final push as well?

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Same boat here…we all know that we’ll remember this night a lot more than the pointless stuff on our finals (especially if that final is, in my case, Spanish)

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Twitter trending is full of Phils!

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

well done

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

…and that’s a rec.

by Aphilfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

a free agent accepts that much less money to play for a team he wants to? in this era? wow

by spinz on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

The hiring of Charlie Manuel is really, REALLY epic. And to think we criticized the guy like we did

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

SI_JonHeyman

   1. lee received about $115 mil for 5 years plus 6th yr vesting option w/ makeable incentives. thats slightly higher AAV than yankees offer

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RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

hahahahahaha
Joelsherman1

   1. Of course, if CC opts out, I full now expect #Phillies to sign him to be NO. 5 starter

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Key Words

I BET IS COMING*******

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I did not take note of that at first. Though it would not surprise me if true.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Our pitching staff

Are some class acts. Gone are the days of Brett Myers and co.

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish there was a 24 hour network devoted to MLB so I could get instant analysis of this signing! 4 minutes ago via web

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

On the plus side Harold Reynolds is currently making the case the yanks are still the favorites on MLB network. LOL

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Previously recorded from earlier today

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Favorite to sign Lee that is.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Breaking news: ESPN doing more Cliff Lee talk, focusing on Yankees. So funny, though

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

Totally unrelated angle.

Sunday: Eagles 30, Cowboys 27
Monday: Phillies sign Cliff Lee, most recently of the Rangers, to 5 year under-market deal.

Suck it, Dallas. Stars? Mavs? Who wants some?

by Aphilfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

HAHAHA epic last couple of days

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Eagles dominate the Giants Sunday it will be even greater.

by youaretheman26 on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

tonight the flyers are taking the top spot in the league just fyi

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

To pile on to the state of Texas, 4 minutes after the Cliff Lee news broke, the Houston Texans lost in overtime on a walkoff interception.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

And Mavs lost their winning streak

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Rangers play across the street from the Cowboys
Astros play in Houston. This is good news for them, they can get Blanton

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Well that was pompous on the part of whoever the schmuck speaking on ESPN is. He seemed to not understand how anyone could turn down a chance to pitch in New York.

by FearTheTurtIe on Dec 14, 2010 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

Its almost like they disrespected his wife or something.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i see what you did there

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Neither can most of the Yankees fans…as well as many of the Red Sox fans who commented on their blog. Why would you want to leave all that money on the table to go pitch in…that…shithole?

Because Boston and New York city are always bowls full of cherries themselves.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Shiit i need to sleep now but i can go to sleep EXTREMELY HAPPY!!!!

by Daniel Solomon on Dec 14, 2010 1:07 AM EST reply actions  

rec for awesomeness

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yay Finals!

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

… still shocked.

DTMWTD

by alcatraz0109 on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

I think it’s time to add the doomsday clock to the smug advisory system.

Baseball: the only sport whose commissioner wants you to think it is still 1960.

by phillies fan in bowie on Dec 14, 2010 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

I’m in love with this.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s awesome.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

tell them to have fun with frenchie

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Believe somebody missed the satire in that post.

The wait for 10/7 begins. This man is focused. Are you?

by souldrummer on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This. Is. Greatness.

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s just hilarious. So, is someone going to make a “what should I do” commercial?

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Since they have a day waiting period

I’ll have to settle for putting my gratitude here. Awesome post.

(And Ibanez+Blanton for Greinke FTW).

by Aphilfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

better scoop up partial plans now, before the wagon fans hop on piphers dick and scoop them all up from the suburbs.

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, some of us “real fans” are from the ’burbs, too, mutherducker!

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

You suburban fans aren’t real fans like me and my steamfitter union boys from South Philly.

by John Lamb on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

steamfitters union is a good union

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

i know, but the city was overwhelmed with people who had no idea what a “Phillie” was during the parade in 08

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s part of what comes along with having a successful team. I can handle it so long as there are more parades (and more ace pitchers).

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree. I would just like to be able to get tickets to a game or two each season. I want to contribute to the endless spending spree

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Stubhub

is your best friend. Especially day of the game.

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

NYC and LA I get, Boston k, but ESPNDallas? why

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Like seriously, the Cowboys are America’s PASTtime. The Mavericks are a regular season team. The Rangers didn’t even win a playoff series till Lee lent his services to them.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

And what of the Dallas Stars?(IE: Who gives a flying hoot about hockey?)

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, aside from the Flyers who gives a flying hoot

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

all the people who made hockey higher rated on TV then the NBA so far this year.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

For once I can’t wait for ESPN to cover a sport

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, ESPN is kicking themselves for letting hockey walk. Apparently they are gonna pay kings ransom to get it back from Vs. because the NHL took off like a rocket since the lockout and the NBA has become a sinking rock.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Esp with the looming lockouts coming…hockey’s going to be king if there’s no NFL next year.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Baseball will always be #1 even without football. Baseball is popular everywhere in America.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant next winter when there’s no baseball.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

well, coverage will still be 50/50. But just 2 years ago, ESPN hated hockey.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

will never establish the core fanbase cause it’s too cost prohibitive for the majority of kids to play. yes I’m still bitter. I was too poor to play.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame LeBron’s “decision”

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

well, the NHL finals were higher rated the the NBA finals the past three years anyway.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I might be the only basketball diehard in Philadelphia

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Its just that basketball is popular in the markets the NHL isn’t, where its the opposite when the NHL reigns supreme.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

So you’re depressed, I’m sorry…

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey that's not fair!

I’ve pretty much followed the Sixers every which way as much as you have!

oh wait, I’m from south jersey so I guess that doesn’t cover the “in Philadelphia” part.

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by soman319 on Dec 14, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah man, your included too :). Hell, TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

whoa whoa whoa haha. but seriously, philly is a hockey city. much more than basketball at least.

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

More than pro bball anyway. College bb is very popular.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but Flyers are still more popular. They are one of the richest franchises in the nhl for a reason…fans and money from fans

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure thing—I just bought a sweatshirt and tee for my husband and he’s not really a hockey fan—I am.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

On the professional level, yes. Philly college and HS hoops have great tradition. The Flyers have just been much better run than the Sixers.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

And oddly enough, but the same ownership…it’s just that Snider loves hockey and doesn’t GAS about the Sixers.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Reason I wanna buy the 76ers

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Talk about a fixer-upper.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Meeks has made us this great of a team, alot of it is Coach Collins who I wanna keep. But if I were GM today, I’d focus most of my attention on upgrading our wings and big men.

Iguodala’s playing better(IE: taking less shots), sadly he nor Brand can reduce their own fat salaries. So trading them is a must.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m pretty shocked at how much negative fallout there was when the Sixers signed Collins. I liked the signing from day one, and sure as shit was a 100% improvement over that mouth-breather, Eddie Jordan.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Mostly on CSNPhilly comments and Philly.com comments(no disrespect to the writers/analysts for both stations). But on sites like RealGM or even Libertyballers, the hatred for EJ was unanimous and the hiring of Collins was almost as unanimous, maybe 80%.

But I freaking fell in love with the guy. He talked about man to man defense and passing the ball and I’m like

SOLD. And that’s what they are doing right now.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Just like flip-that-house, but flip-that-entire-jumbled-mess-ofa-team

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

comcast is too big here, then again u’d think it was in chicago

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re already hiring for it. I’m sure it will be ready by April now that this happened. Maybe they’ll give us our own version of the Heat Index

by youaretheman26 on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

amazing avenue

Cliff Lee has signed with the Phillies for five years. Goodness. (h/t NaOH)

The deal is said to be for five years and $115 million with an “easily reachable” vesting option for a sixth year (i.e. an Omar Minaya special).

The Phillies now have a front four of Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, and Roy Oswalt.
The Mets have a front four of Mike Pelfrey, R.A. Dickey, Jon Niese, and Dillon Gee.

Oh, and if you’re hanging your hat on “that contract will look really bad in 2015,” it could be a long four years between now and then.

The Phillies are shopping Joe Blanton to free up payroll.

In 212.1 innings last year between the Mariners and Rangers, Lee struck out 185 batters and walked just 18, 16 of them unintentionally. His 10.82 K/BB (strikeout per walk) ratio was by far the best in baseball. The second best mark? 7.30 K/BB by Lee’s now-teammate Roy Halladay. Cole Hamels was 13th at 3.46 K/BB.

The silver lining for Mets fans is that the Phillies’ offense isn’t anything special, especially now that their best hitter will be earning a King’s ransom in Washington. Here are their projected starters and their corresponding National League wRC+ rank among qualified players at their positions.

C, Carlos Ruiz: 129 wRC+ (2 of 7)
1B, Ryan Howard: 139 wRC+ (7 of 13)
2B, Chase Utley: 134 wRC+ (2 of 10)
SS, Jimmy Rollins: 96 wRC+ (7 of 10)
3B, Placido Polanco: 100 wRC+ (7 of 11)
LF, Raul Ibanez: 112 wRC+ (6 of 9)
CF, Shane Victorino: 111 wRC+ (8 of 15)
RF, Domonic Brown: 57 wRC+ (12 of 12)

Not a bad lineup by any stretch, but apart from Howard and Utley there isn’t much to get excited about.

by phillyeaglesfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

i guess phils dont have any hitting since werth left smh

by phillyeaglesfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

well when you focus on one of many stats to make your point…..

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing special followed by Chase Utley?

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by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Dec 14, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Out of the many great moments over the past couple years in Phillies baseball, the demotion of the Mets from rival to mock-worthy whipping boys is close to the top.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The general feeling amongst Mets fans is “no big deal we were planning to suck for 3 or 4 years anyway”

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by JasonB on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Acceptance

is the last stage of the grieving process.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The way the Mets played last year, looks like their players subscribed to that belief, as well.

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by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m excited about Brown

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

So if we were H2O, What are we now?

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

R2C2

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by JasonB on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It could work haha

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Mentioned on comcast. Could be gaining steam.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

ZWR already has a shirt with this one. And “Mystery Team,” which I really like.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn ZWR that’s what I call a quick turnaround!

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by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw someone else post something along the lines (forget where) of H2OLee Sh*t. Can’t really reprint that, but I found it hilarious.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Im a fan the the Phantastic 4

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like this is the one that will stick…but I want something more creative…something…

"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel

by Dugbam on Dec 14, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It seemed too easy

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta love the freedom.

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m still giggling for no apparent reason about every 5 minutes

by kazz on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Also, I’m trembling. I don’t think I’m going to be able to sleep tonight.

Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m giggling a lot more frequently than every 5 minutes, and there’s definitely an apparent reason behind it. :)

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

How needs Jason Werth??

Don’t really need a big offense when you got the top 4 pitchers in baseball in your rotation.

Did anyone notice that Sportscenter made the report, but instead of talking about the Phils rotation, they talked about the Yankees & New York City not getting them? They had the idiot Yankees beat writer. How cares?? Why does this matter??

Cliff welcome back!!!!

by BirdsFanintheDesert on Dec 14, 2010 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

Absolute insanity.

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by DanyS on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 AM EST reply actions  

Orgasmmm

One of the biggest orgasm’s after i read this…cant belive this

by PhitinPhan on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

It almost seems unfair…. almost

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve seen way to many Phillies seasons that were over by June growing up to feel even a shred of guilt. We deserve this.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Just wait,

The Eagles will extend Michael Vick’s contract in the next week & steal the Phillies thunder.

by DannyO on Dec 14, 2010 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

I would love that. Vick extension is the Philly news I’ve been waiting on. Certainly never saw THIS coming.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t care—I love teams trying to top one another with awesomeness.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, compete for our affection.

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by Travis Hughes on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

he's very comfortable in philly

I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

Bring it back! And the Lee puns! I need them in my life again!

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha I loved that. And his little behind the back catch

by phinally on Dec 14, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Valentine

Sounds drunk.

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by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

And literally has nothing productive to say.

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by JasonB on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

He was rambling and slurring his words worse than Lou Holtz.

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by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Valentine: Charlie Manuel will be walking on a tightrope going out to get one of his big starters every night. There is nothing to worry about.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 1:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

madson in the eighth is fine, but hey with lidge we at least get some type of excitement during the games…. lol

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by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

lidge was much better at the end of the season

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by layout ultimate on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

And wasn’t Madson just as bad early too? I like them both, but I wouldn’t call Madson that much better. Its just that the 9th is so much more nail-bitting.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Lidge had a pretty good year. Forget 48-48, he’s gonna have his moments. But I think he’ll constantly be a 30-35 save guy for us.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

By “constantly” you mean “for the last year of his contract, 2011.”

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by WholeCamels on Dec 14, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I think our bullpen will experience much less stress this year.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

y?

no durbin?

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by sports00fan00 on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t bring up memories, one of Manuel’s greatest farts since I’ve watched them.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yes it was. but include Dubee in that throw under the busery. Durbin looked like shit and hadn’t pitched in 17 days or something. The pitching coach should have seen that and before the evidence spoke for itself.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, can we fire Dubee yet?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

And hire Jamie Moyer to take his place?

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

He should have been fired for the shit that went down with Pedro in game 6. You have a 38 year old pitcher with that much mileage on him and a couple of surgerys and you didn’t pick -up on the fact that he’d lost 5 mph of his fastball ahead of time, like in his bull pen session…cuz it wasn’t like he lost velocity over the course of the game – it was there from the beginning. And then leaving a future HoFer out there in NY to chants of “Who’s Your Daddy” when he clearly blew a tire. Such a horrible evening.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

whoops

it wasn’t there from the beginning

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

But that being said, Manuel’s been the catalyst for this whole ride. He stuck with Lidge all the way through and when you think about it. Despite his god awful 09 regular season, Lidge had a strong playoff performance that yr, came off that and played even better this year. And has a whole off-season to get healthy.

Looking forward to this.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant that the bullpen won’t be overworked. Not with Halladay and Lee trading complete games and Cole going 7 or 8.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

But the bullpen never fails to put stress on us. :P

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to be a buzzkill, but how many years does Cole have left on his contract? I can’t see how he’ll be here beyond his current deal.

Then again, I didn’t see them re-upping Ryan Howard, getting and extending Halladay, and signing Lee, either.

by Derek Bodner on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Obviously Cole will be back. It’s Oswalt who probably won’t be staying beyond this, his last year(option year, right?)

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not talking about this year, I’m talking about whenever his contract is up.

by Derek Bodner on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

And I’m thinking with Oswalt’s contract about up, that frees up salary, Ibanez’s contract is up soon, right? There’s plenty of money to go around for Hamels

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Oswalt is signed through this year and he has an option for 2012.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Team or player option?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Team

BOILER UP!! 2010-2011

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by EREX21 on Dec 14, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

If anything, Cole is the one safe guy on the rotation long-term. RAJr. loves to make big deals, but he loves the farm raised stars too.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Halladay better be safe, too. Because I kinda love him and he needs to stay. That is all.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Halladay locked up through 2014, Lee through 2015, Hamels is up after 2011, and Oswalt with the option for 2012.

I’m worried about Cole.

by Derek Bodner on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Old saying: We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. Do you think management just chose a 32 yr old, over a 26/27 yr old?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Even if you're right..

Let’s not worry about that now. It’s 1:30 in the morning and we signed the best LHP in baseball. And stuck it to the Yanks.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

What if Amaro goes “alright, I have Lee signed up for 5 years, no certainty with Hamels, let me trade Cole while I still have him under control and can get value for him”.

Would it have been better to have dumped that money into the 27 year old Cole?

Can Amaro make the same mistake twice? He likes to have these “cost certainty” guys.

I’m dreading next offseason.

by Derek Bodner on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee is a winner. Hamels is a pussy. Wip

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the fanfare from the Lee Trade, and his move for Oswalt confirmed he learned he very nearly F’d up a NL Dynasty potentially.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Besides, I think it’s good business/financial planning to have cost certainty. If you’ve got cost certainty, you know what your going to do.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re getting the band back together!

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Bill James

says lee will regress next year get the fuck outta here

by phillyeaglesfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

Didn’t Lee have a stinker game 1 against the Giants?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Regress to what precisely?

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by Jose and the Contrarians on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

He’ll apparently merely be super human.

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Instead of (insert fav superhero here), he’ll be Aquaman?

by jrobulls on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

No, Dobbs was let go.

by RaptorLC on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe from just super amazing awesome to just super awesome?

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No, he’s super special awesome

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah I thought the same thing. I mean there might be a drop in his performance but even at that he’ll be frickin’ awesome

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay. Holy crap. This is real. Wait. This IS real right?

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

Cliff Lee euphoria + late-night celebratory Yuengling… not a bad Monday.

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by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

I hate coffee around 8PM tonight. Couldn’t sleep. Turned on TV. Saw the news. Now I’m jittery, from both the coffee and the clifflee.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

He hits 5-run homers, and strikes out guys with 2 pitches…in the same game. He is the most interesting man in the world.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE

CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE ….. can’t really think of anything else to say…. CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE CLIFF LEE

by quakerfan on Dec 14, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

I just read this on MLBTraderumors and hurried over here. I think I just orgasmed and lost my virginity about 20 times. I want to scream but my parents are sleeping and I don’t want to scare them.

OH MY FUCKING GOD ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME HOLY FUCKING SHIT FUCK UNFUCKING BELIEVE FUCKING RUBEN AMARO IS FUCKING AMAZING FUCK ME FOR PLAYING MADDEN 11 FOR MOST OF THE DAY INSTEAD OF CHECKING MLBTRADERUMORS OR ANY PHILLIES WEBSITE HOLY FUCKING SHIT I’M SO FUCKING EXCITED FUCK FUCK FUCK YES

by Bozo31215 on Dec 14, 2010 1:42 AM EST reply actions  

Think JRoll is gonna text werth now and be all like “Oh this is what we’re doing”

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 AM EST reply actions  

Werth: I am as dumb as I look, I became MLB’S Joe Johnson but worse(JJ signed a 7 yr deal to remain with a playoff fooder team for no logical reason. Even moreso, there was no logical reason for the Hawks to sign that contract).

But the Nats aren’t even the Hawks, they are the pittsburgh Pirates.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Dearest Clifton Phifer Lee,

You will not regret this. As sure as the day I was born, Philadelphia will remind you why you loved them so much. For this simple act of choosing our team over your other suitors, and for all that you accomplished the last time you wore our pinstripes, you were be revered as a demi-god. Mark my words.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:44 AM EST reply actions  

Holy crap, yes.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

April 2 vs. April 1 when single-game tix go on sale.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

Rec’d. Absobloodylutely.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

For Lee, money is an after thought. For him, it was about winning and for us, it’s about winning too.

And TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALLGAME DAMNIT :D

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee could have gone to New York and had both the maximum money and be on a championship contender.

I hate to oversimplify something that has been a drawn out and complex process, but it really boiled down to Cliff Lee loving Philadelphia, the Phillies, Charlie, the clubhouse, etc. and wanting to comeback.

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by Justin F. on Dec 14, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee must have a lot of afterthoughts.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Dec 14, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll gladly pay more for tickets if it means I am nearly guaranteed to see an ace pitch on any given day.

But knowing my luck, I’ll end up with a Blanton ticket every time.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

“The Fifth Starter Ticket Plan.” Now there’s a concept.

Plus, I did it sort of last year. I believe I saw four Kendrick and Moyer games. Fortunately, one of them was Moyer’s CG SHO 2-hitter vs. the Braves. Which was its own bliss.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

Two Kendricks (a loss and a win), a Blanton (vs. the Astros, during the 4 game home sweep), and an Antonio Bastardo vs. the Orioles in 2009 interleague (which we lost).

I deserve to pay a lot of money to see an ace, dangit.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 3:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to a Phillies game, scratch that I’m going to a BUNCH of them. And I’m going to start my baseball education.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

Do you realize now that on any given night, you have an 80% chance of seeing an ace on the mound? I can’t wait to spend my hard-earned money on tickets.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

YES PLEASE

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It didn’t feel real until I read this.

Please don’t sully that thread by trolling. I want to remember it for a while just the way it is.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 1:50 AM EST reply actions  

Same whining shit aside from a few posters who are pretty respectful. Mostly it’s “So, this doesn’t win them anything. Giants still beat all those pitchers they have last year in the playoffs and did it with a homegrown team/didn’t have to buy their players,” kind of vibe.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning

DTMWTD

by alcatraz0109 on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you know that the Braves organization is classier than the Phillies? They are calling the Phils the Yankees of the NL and they can’t respect them because they are trying to “buy” their championships. I guess all those guys on the diamond that came from the farm system are a mirage, hahaha.

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by doubleh on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Any twitterers let phuture phillies know jeff stehl made the pic he’s posting

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Dec 14, 2010 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

So what big-name pitchers are due for FA next offseason? snickers

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 AM EST reply actions  

Stop being a worrywort, we just stole one of the best pitchers in the game for $50 million with an M less.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not worried. If Ruben Amaro can trade away Cliff Lee and bring him back within the course of a year (almost to the day), he has my faith.

I’m just worried that we don’t have a fifth ace. snickers again

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Pedro should be back by summer.

by Dpez71 on Dec 14, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

OH MAN!

I love Pedro. I don’t care how old he is. He’s awesome.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean to Derek, instead of celebrating with the rest of us he’s afraid about us losing Hamels.

We’ll cross that bridge, when/if we get there.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m allowed to have two thoughts (excited for Lee and worried about Hamels).

by Derek Bodner on Dec 14, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

No, you’re not. zOMG CLIFF LEE

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Lemme put it this way: Depending on which stats you use, Ruben Amaro just got the best 1-2 pitchers in baseball for BOTH less then market value and locked up.

I think he can also secure Hamels here

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

IF

he wants to. He might not want to offer Mr. Hamels arb…

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Blanton just got Moyer’d, yo

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 1:54 AM EST reply actions  

awwww. I like cupcakes

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you mean he got Moyer’d?

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

demoted to a neverneverland by mainstream fans who think he sucks, when he really doesn’t. I hope they don’t salary dump him.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Blanton’s awesome in his little “Innings Cookie monster” role, a team’s going to appreciate that.

I’d rather us trade Kendrick and Ibanez, both of whom have underperformed of late. Though Ibanez had a hot streak towards the end of the yr and might be coming in fully healthy for the first time since signing the tract a few yrs ago.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Ruben-Amaro-Jr-Is-The-Best-GM-In-The-League/118797061521050

by bpconnor3 on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, how quickly the tides turn.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

So…2011 rotation: Halladay, Hamels, Lee, Oswalt…Kendrick/Worley? If poor KK felt inadequate before, this isn’t helping. Go, Worley!

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

"Mystery team" FTW

That is all. I’m going to force myself to try and go to sleep so I don’t TOTALLY fail my exam tomorrow.

by Senor Octubre on Dec 14, 2010 2:09 AM EST reply actions  

So does Manuel=Scooby or Freddie=Amaro?

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by 60minuteman on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t care who goes on there, put Phillies faces on it and I will give the creator 7 internetz

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Scooby is RAJ, Freedie is Charlie. Welma is Hamels, Daphie(That’s her name right? Green Scarf?) Is Lee. LMAO. Too many studs for even this pic

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh and Shaggie is Oswalt.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

So, umm, what do the Eagles do tomorrow now that the Phills took their spotlight?

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

Makes sense, but I heard before he was gonna be franchised tagged

Samesis

by JpH89 on Dec 14, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Have the whole team show up at a Flyers game.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesomeness.

Fangraphs.

I’m giddy.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:13 AM EST reply actions  

And the Phillies didn’t have to give up Domonic Brown…

BTW, WC: “He’s back, and he’s ours.”

^^ This still annoyed me even buried in this news.

BTW:

ZOMGOMGOMGMOGOMGOMGGMOMGMGMGMOGMOO CLIFFFFF LEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

I am not a witch.

by RememberthePhitans on Dec 14, 2010 2:19 AM EST reply actions  

took you long enough

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

JUst found out. No cable. I was watching 6 hours straight of Season 2 of Weeds and cooking myself in front of a fire. I was thinking this was the Christmas Carol and a ghost of Lees past had come to visit.

I am not a witch.

by RememberthePhitans on Dec 14, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

that splains it. So is Weeds good? I don’t watch alot stuff when it deals with drug culture. But the lead actress is yummy so I might have to consider it.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I was about to send out an APB to points west of Philadelphia.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 14, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Cliff Lee doesn't care about money.

All he cares about is love.

Ruben Amaro- how does he work?

by LeepinLizardz on Dec 14, 2010 2:23 AM EST reply actions  

This is so unfair

But so phrigging amazing! I’m looking forward to visiting Philly next year

by Minor Leaguer on Dec 14, 2010 2:32 AM EST reply actions  

Fuck can we convince the powers that be to re-hire Bobby Cox.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:37 AM EST reply actions  

How epic would that be, to have Cox on the Phillies staff and shove it in the Braves face

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

well that’d be a different wrinkle but I was thinking more like the Braves re-hiring him….wasn’t clear about that.

by j reed on Dec 14, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont want him to win a world series.

by uspsuperman on Dec 14, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we rename thegoodphight? It’s now the GREATphight or the Holy Phight. We’re on a mission: 100+ wins or bust

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:42 AM EST reply actions  

Dear WC

Please post “Dude with Glasses.gif” Because thats the front office right now.

omfg im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking glad hes not a Yankee. Add that to the fact hes now on the Phantastic Four, and I might’ve died and gone to heaven.

Maybe our pitching staff can be like Furious Five + Panda in Kung Fu Panda (Blanton is Panda)

by The Fish on Dec 14, 2010 2:49 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously, dump Ibanez or someone else and keep Blanton. As an innings eater, he’s valuable to a team in the regular season, plus as a reliever in the post season.

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

still stoked

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

ok that aside, im now just praying our lineup can start hitting when it matters.

by The Fish on Dec 14, 2010 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Are they kidding us? Oh, MY GOD. Christmas came a week and a half early.
Did anybody think we could have Halladay AND Cliff Lee AND Roy Owsalt. And, a guy named Cole Hamels. Where does this rank in the annals of stunning free agent signings?

Just when I thought it was time to concentrate on the football season and the Eagles this comes along. You try to get out and they just pull you back in.

Oh, by the way, does this make sense in any rational baseball universe we know of?

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 2:59 AM EST reply actions  

I hopped in the car at 11:50 and headed to the bar, just in case...

heard the news immediately on XM and stopped at ever Wawa, 7-11 & random parking lot full of people in the greater Manayunk area to spread some Christmas cheer, leaving a throng of cheering Phils Phans in my wake. Got the bar and drank, cheered and sang with Phriends.

I cannot get over it. Clifton Pheifer Lee took less money and fewer years to come back to the adopted city that loves him and that – it turns out – he came to love back.

Joygasm does not describe it.

Zoowithroy’s initial headline says it all: “LET’S ALL SEX!”

LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Dec 14, 2010 3:10 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Live in Europe. Just woke up. WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!?!

My first thought: How fortunate that the best pitchers in the world now routinely leave tens of millions of dollars on the table to come to Philly.

by SethC on Dec 14, 2010 3:37 AM EST reply actions  

Final thought before bed. Don’t know if this was mentioned earlier – I didn’t read all 800 or so comments – but is there any way this happens if Jayson Werth had decided to take the Phillies offer? The money he left on the table is probably what it took to sign Cliff Lee. Funny how things work out, isn’t it?

by phillyinportland on Dec 14, 2010 3:39 AM EST reply actions  

How many teams can boast having two CY Young Award winners on their staff: Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee? Further more, CY young award winners from different leagues: AL and NL?

Hell, Halladay alone has won both from the AL and NL.

We’re Smexy

by LeQuan Glover on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 AM EST reply actions  

While no other team has two Cy Young winners the next closest would be

the Cardinals with Carpenter and Wainwright. Distant second at that.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Dec 14, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Correction.

Lincecum and Zito in SF. Although Zito is a shell of his former self.

Bob Feller is THE prime example of a cranky old man...working with him a 8:00 AM has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in America.

by mtzxc on Dec 14, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

HOH LEE fucking shit!!!!!!!! HOH LEE fucking shit!!!!! HOH LEE fucking shit!!!!! What a fucking rotation.

by froggiebaby on Dec 14, 2010 3:56 AM EST reply actions  

Okay, How about this?

FOUR-midable

I love pit-bulls, and I love Vick too. I'm a complicated man.

by oldasquick on Dec 14, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

I still can’t believe it, I can’t stop thinking about Lee and how awesome it is that he basically said “F You” to the Yankees

by JLS89 on Dec 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

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