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BASEBALL 2010: Phillies go for NL three-peat
Blah blah blah the usual from SI.com.

Phillies plan to put Victorino in position to be more productive
So wait, the Shane Victorino of the past couple of seasons has been trying to be a "tablesetter"? Hacktorino? Really?

Five predictions about the Philadelphia Phillies for the 2010 season

(3) Placido Polanco is a nice addition to an already potent lineup - Polanco almost always makes contact and typically hits the ball hard. Yes, he missed some time this spring but he has only struck out once in over 40 at-bats.


I have a dream... that one day, sportswriters will stop caring about a batter's strikeout totals.

Baseball Notes: Dodgers give the nod to Padilla for opener
Keep away from firearms, liquor for 48 hours ahead of time.

Star-divide

In Whiz Kid era, brass was always greener
Last in a series.  Fun stuff here.

Phillies Notebook: Phillies in the market for starting pitching depth
PEDRO PEDRO PEDRO??

Park in Four-Way Battle for Yankees' Setup Role
You see what happens, Chan Ho??!?!

Phillies Notes: Phils' Kendrick turns in strong outing
Still not missing bats, however.

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I haven’t really thought about Kendrick’s K’s. I wonder what his BABIP is at this point, and if it’s just unsustainable; certainly a fair question to make of the “Is Kyle Kendrick Remade in the Image of Roy???” camp.

by Trev223 on Mar 26, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

If my math is correct, his BABIP this spring is .185. Source.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Woops, I screwed that up. I think it’s actually .207.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either way, that’s the definition of unstable. Yeesh.

Small sample size and all, but that takes the rose color right out of my lenses.

by Trev223 on Mar 26, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not thaaaaaat bad if you think about it

My logic is the ‘pitch to contact’ guys will always have lower BABIP than guys that generate more Ks because they (PTCs) get more outs from balls that are in play and get less outs on balls that arent in play (so the numbers are skewed).

That said though, .207 is somewhat discouraging.

by philiafan14364 on Mar 26, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

To put it another way, we assume that BABIP is essentially a measure of ‘hard hit balls’, but thats not always the case.

by philiafan14364 on Mar 26, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a large enough sample size, though, BABIP will almost always regress to .300. Pitching to contact isn’t a way to sustain success simply because pitchers cannot control their BABIP.

by PhillyFriar on Mar 29, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can get away with a low K rate if you have both great control and a great ability to induce groundballs. But I don’t know if even the New Kyle fits either category.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

His K rate is still too low for sustainable success. See for instance Carlos Silva.

by phatj on Mar 26, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, there have been a few guys who have done it with success for sustained periods of time. They aren’t common but it does happen occasionally.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only post-WWII guy I can think of off the top of my head is Bill Lee, the definitive Crafty (Goofy?) Lefty.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 26, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The two guys I was mainly thinking of were Kirk Rueter and Bob Tewksbury. Rueter was obviously no world beater, but he was consistently serviceable for a number of years. Tewksbury was a much better pitcher who was able to have some really good sustained success in the early ’90s while never striking anyone out because of his inhumanly good control.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

aaron cook: 2006 3.89 K/9 ( 6.59 league avg), 92 SO, 212 INN
                       2007 3.31 K/9 (6.67), 61 SO, 166 INN
                       2008 4.09 K/9 (6.83), 98 SO, 211 INN
                       2009 4.44 K/9 (6.99). 78 SO, 158 INN

He’s the only person off the top of my head that comes anywhere near the likes of Kirk Rueter who from 2000-5 he posted the following: (order is same as above)

3.47 (6.53), 71, 184
3.82 (6.74), 83, 195
3.36 (6.53), 76, 203
2.51 (6.40), 41, 147
2.65, (6.00), 56,190
2.10 (3.80), 25, 107

more like Kirk “the Robot” Rueter. That’s just fargin insane

by j reed on Mar 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cook’s a good one too. And his walk rate isn’t even all that impressive. It’s just that he’s a machine when it comes to the groundballs.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s why i love the sinkerball….Honda Accord of pitches. Aint sexy, won’t get you laid but it gets the job done. That’s what I’m hoping for with Kendrick, that he develops into a Cook type of sinkerballer who’d be perfect for the 3-5 spot in the rotation in the coming years.

by j reed on Mar 26, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be sweet, but I don’t think it’s in the cards. Even in AAA last year, Kendrick’s GO/AO was only 1.51. Cook’s been in the 2.5-ish neighborhood every year of his big league career since he was a rookie. (So far this spring, Kendrick has 24 GO and 22 AO.)

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cook had 158IP last year, and didn’t make the 162IP cutoff for the 2010 BJ Handbook.

MLB 2009 leaders with > 162IP:

Pineiro…2.54
Lowe…2.18
Marquis…2.03
Romero (tor)…2.03

FWIW, 1.58 would put KK in the top ten in either league. NL numbers are slightly better (pitchers batting hit more gb vs starters).

Notably, in the AL, Halladay was 4th best at 1.71. In the NL, I bet he improves to close to 2. Just a guess…not easily able to work the numbers right now.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dumbest Stat Ever

(well…maybe not..but it should be in the running).
From the Vic article:

Pedro Feliz, who hit No. 7 last season, came to the plate with runners in scoring position more frequently than Victorino (25.4 percent of his total plate appearances, compared with Victorino’s 23.2 percent). He also led off an inning more frequently than Victorino (20.8 percent to 19.8 percent).

Now I won’t overly nitpick the first one..but come on. They guy who hits 2nd in a lineup has a guaranteed one AB per game where it is impossible for him to lead off an inning, throw in that every other AB the pitcher is two in front of him, and it makes it even less likely (you usually go after the pitcher with 2 outs…you don’t walk him to face the lead-off guy…although if it was Cliff Lee up with Rollins on deck, might not’ve been a bad move).

Dirka.

by Bilzo on Mar 26, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

and a note on Polanco’s low K rate..
Guess who is going to lead the phils in GIDP this year?

by Bilzo on Mar 26, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Thought the same thing. I don’t think we’ll have to wait long for a 2-pitch, 2-out top of the first.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

great idea

That could be an awesome contest.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

After I finish my gloomy 5- act opus (I’ve been away, plus I’m rationalizing that the bench and bullpen are still being worked out; RAJ also prone to pull a late-March deal), or maybe in between, I’ll put together we should line up a season-long series of quirky over unders. Not typical stuff, like how many wins Roy Halladay gets, but vaguely (or decidedly) statistically informed events like this.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proposals:

Jroll faces fewer than 8p in 5ab.

Jroll pops up 3x in one game.

Jayson Werth faces more pitches in one game during a calendar week than Jroll faces in an entire calendar week where Jroll starts every game.

Game where Werth faces more pitches than Polanco, Rollins, and Victorino combined where all four start and finish the game.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

RTP, love the three popups in one game…my intent was to limit it to events that would occur in a single game, if only for expediency…as for your third submission, I don’t know if I can pay attention to week-long categories, though they are damn good ones. The one I thought of today was to see if Werth could tie or beat the all time pitches per PA (modern day 17, Pat Listach).

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 27, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That last one would be pretty good – Werth facing more pitches than Polanco, Rollins, and Victorino in the same game without any of the four being pulled.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Mar 29, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Heyward has officially made the Braves’ opening day starting lineup. Link.

by taco pal on Mar 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I count myself shocked that it happened.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Mar 26, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone started the official “just walk Jason” campaign?

If not, I am the creator!

by philiafan14364 on Mar 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you guys wanna start that campaign

i know Braves fans would be down to start a “just walk Ryan Howard” campaign as well

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when." 3/26/2010 -- The future arrived.

by Scott Coleman on Mar 26, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throw at his ankles…it gets you a better result usually

by jemagee on Mar 26, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He would still hit it out. That man doesn’t miss against us.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when." 3/26/2010 -- The future arrived.

by Scott Coleman on Mar 26, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Braves are just moving up Heyward’s FA by a year. Why not park him at Richmond for a couple of weeks? Keeping him away from 172 service days saves them millions. Think of the npv cost of a extra 2 weeks of Heyward…why?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Except keeping Tommy Hanson in the minors to start 2009 might have kept the Braves out of the postseason. I don’t think they could afford to make that “mistake” again.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 27, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

And your vote could make a difference on election day. Think about the cost of a season’s worth of win shares bought with arbitration leverage down the road versus two weeks’ worth of win shares now. This is really short-sighted.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sort of playing devil’s advocate, actually. This Braves team could really contend, which we don’t know about the 2015 Braves. One or two wins in 2010, for an 85-90 win team, could really, really be worth a lot.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually happy to see the Braves do something dumb, honestly. Were I in their shoes, I would defer gratification by a couple of weeks/month.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Because he's ready now

And it’s Bobby Cox’s final season.

"(Jason Heyward) is like the Grim Reaper -- you know he's going to get you, you just don't know where or when." 3/26/2010 -- The future arrived.

by Scott Coleman on Mar 27, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree and I can understand Bobby Cox wanting to go out on a high note and getting the best chance to do it. It might suck for his successor in a few years, but it is what it is.

by Cormican on Mar 27, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walking even the best hitter of all time is a bad strategy. Pitch to him, but do it judiciously. The unintentional-intentional walk is a better idea. Heyward appears to be a really good player, but only time will tell. I’m not in favor of annointing him as Pujols II just yet.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 27, 2010 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like it. His eyes are pretty.

I never noticed that when he was playing for the Tigers. I usually just remarked on his oddly-shaped head and/or the fact that his name sounds like he should be an opera singer.

The power play is still f**king clown shoes

Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back in April 2010

by HappyHuman on Mar 27, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Polanco the Soprano with his Spear and Magic Helmet

Placido Polanco Last of the Castrati….now he doesn’t get any balls and rarely strikes out…. what’s that mean, more triple play arias


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by j reed on Mar 28, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now that I really took a good long look at it I feel as though he’s looking right into my soul. He’s seen my sins and now judges me.

Thanks phatj, now I’ll never look at the hot corner the same again.

Scar tissue is stronger than muscle tissue. Realize the strength, move on.

by JCB79 on Mar 27, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Bless me, Placido, for I have sinned. It has been five seasons since I last gazed into your soul….

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 27, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other than the more serious charges concerning the “Hand of God Game” popular for sometime in many a confessional, there is another reasonable, albeit lesser known explanation for recent declining numbers at Sat. confessional. Every so often a diocese gets an practical joker priest who just can’t resist the classic “Ghost Rider Penance Stare Flaming Skull Mask Gag”
 

Remember children as you grow older, everytime you masterbate, an angel dies…

This gag has been known to keep kids away from Sat . confession because let’s face it, who wants to spend their Saturday afternoons nursing a hangover while listening to hordes of kids talk about how many times they disrespected their parents, destroyed ant colonies with their grandparents ultra magnifier glass turned sun laser, played with matches, discovered just how mismatched a frog is against an M-80, experimented with how to best insert the word “fuck, shit or hairy balls” into the conversation or how they “borrowed” two colorfoms from a friend’s Charlie Brown’s Camp Ground Colorform, a friend who frankly was more enthralled with eating mud to even notice absence of a Marcy and Peppermint Pattie anyway…it wasn’t like they took Snoopy as the Red Baron or Woodstock for Christ’s sake.

by j reed on Mar 28, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep. that and some insommina. Sleep nights and an over active imagination… the mind likes a tangent. I was never a priest though, or in seminary but been to confession enough to realize the priest has gotta be hearing the same shit over and over.

by j reed on Apr 3, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a nitpick on the Victorino article

“Perhaps the biggest RBI of Victorino’s career, a game-tying solo home run against the Dodgers in Game 4 of the 2008 NLCS, occurred when he was batting sixth.”

No, that was a two run shot. He plated Ryan Howard with that little line drive into the Phillies bullpen (and also broke Lenny Dykstra’s Phillies RBI record with that shot). That tied the game and set the stage for the two run homer where Matt Stairs knocked the cover off the ball that people were unsure would even remain on planet Earth when it left his bat.

I just watched that game on DVD earlier today, and cackled like a madman through the entire 8th inning. That one still hasn’t gotten old. :)

by RaptorLC on Mar 28, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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