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Some Phillies Links for You - April 1, 2010: Schilling Should Shut It, Shots are Bad

 

Schilling: Phillies erred in trading Lee | Philadelphia Inquirer | 04/01/2010
Dear Curt: No one cares what you think. Go back to your pretend war games. Warmly, Everyone.

Rich Hofmann: Lidge's elbow might be sore point for Phillies | Philadelphia Daily News | 04/01/2010
No s%&*.

Crashburn Alley - Phillies Spring Training Winners & Losers
Bill outlines the best and the worst of spring training. SPOILER: Jose Contreras, not so hot.

Phillies' Dobbs displaying 2008 form - mcall.com
But he still can't hit lefties! /boo

Phillies Notes: Phils' Halladay struggles in spring finale | Philadelphia Inquirer | 04/01/2010
Don't worry yet, people.

Vogelsong happy to be home - mcall.com
With the rate of injuries in the Phillies rotation, we're probably going to see him in CBP around mid-May.

3rd Maui player makes Big Leagues - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL Home
Mahalo, Kanekoa Texeira.


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Schill’s an easy target since he’s an unrepentant blow hard and attention whore. I still have a ton of respect for him as a player though. My guess is his comments are going to resonate and raise RAJ’s ire to the level of disgust on the advisory system. Schill threw as hard at the front office as he used to throw at opposing batters. And Andy Martino’s article just confirms that we’re going to be hearing this “what if” scenario all year long.

by Boundforbeach on Apr 1, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Plus, Schilling and RAJ were teammates in the 90s. Mix in Schill’s unpopularity with the early/mid 90s Phillies teams and the Advisory System might hit Code Brown.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Apr 1, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does that mean we are all dead?

by FuquaManuel on Apr 1, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

kaboom

You know how Edward Teller thought that the Trinity Test might ignite the Earth’s atmosphere, wiping out all life on the planet?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Apr 1, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t Amaro unpopular in that clubhouse as well? Of course, that doesn’t mean the two of them liked each other.

by taco pal on Apr 1, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we all know how Mitch feels about Schilling. I think a lot of those guys didn’t really like each other much.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man I can’t stand Schilling. Though I, begrudging, agree with his point that Lee was spectacular in the postseason and could be one of those few players who actually does do better in high pressure situations. He’s still a douchenozzle, though.

by Cormican on Apr 1, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

What irritates me the most is how so many people (including, apparently, Schilling) seem to view Arizona’s experience with Schilling and Randy Johnson as proof that we would have “had a World Series berth locked up right now with” two aces at the top of our rotation. If anything, it proves exactly the opposite. Schilling and Johnson were together with the Diamondbacks for four seasons.* In those four seasons, they made ONE World Series and they won ONE World Series. And that one World Series win was a squeaker that very nearly went the other way.

If we hadn’t traded Lee, we almost certainly would have had him and Halladay together for only one season. So even if the Schilling/Johnson precedent were a perfect predictor of what would happen for us, that would have meant we would have had a 25% chance of making or winning the World Series if we had kept both guys. Maybe it’s just me, but I for one don’t consider a 25% chance to be a “lock”.

[* Technically, it was three seasons and part of a fourth because the Phillies traded Schilling to Arizona in July 2000. But it makes sense to count the 2000 season because Arizona was leading the NL West at the time they acquired Schilling. They actually collapsed and missed the playoffs after the trade.]

by taco pal on Apr 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How’d that work out for the Cards last year, who arguably had 2 of the 5 best starters in the NL?

by Cormican on Apr 2, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Incidentally, Martino didn’t write that article. I’m pretty sure Martino has already left for New York. Rather, that article was written by Ashley Fox. Whose work covering the Eagles is among the most hackish and obtuse of all the writers at philly.com. Which is really saying something. I hope this is not an indication that she will be writing about the Phillies regularly. She is horrible.

by taco pal on Apr 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeesh. Our bullpen might suck.

I didn’t realize Contreras had been THAT bad…not that it surprises me at all.

by FuquaManuel on Apr 1, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I concur with that statement. Had we kept Lee, it might have been even worse. Can you imagine the ire of this city with Halladay and Lee tossing gems only to see Jose Mesa or some such retread come in with whatever’s left of his arm and blow the game consistently?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 1, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also people keep talking about how Lidge’s absence hurts the bullpen. Based on what? If anything, based on last year’s performance and his results in spring training, it might actually help us. They might be bad without him, but they’d probably only be worse with him.

by FuquaManuel on Apr 1, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. Take your time, pal, your body is doing the DFA for us.

by Wet Luzinski on Apr 1, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

FM is ready for Opening Day!

by taco pal on Apr 1, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Warming up in the bullpen.

by FuquaManuel on Apr 1, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go go gadget arm

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Apr 1, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fogghorn

Just when you think where’d the hell Josh Fogg go, he shows up to Clearwater with a Phillies minor league contract. I have no idea who the Ty what-his-face, the other guy that was awarded a minor league contract

by j reed on Apr 1, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

He used to be a fringe prospect in the Blue Jays system. I know this only because I used him as an emergency pickup in a fantasy league several few years ago.

by taco pal on Apr 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two things about Schill...

1) Love how he said the worst move that they ever had done. I’d like him to be asked…worse than trading you?

2) 110 wins? Would Lee’s replacement win half as many games as Lee? Does that mean we are slated for 100 wins in Schill’s eyes?

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Apr 1, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Clearly Schilling felt Lee was going to get 30 wins. Thereby boosting us from mid to upper 90 wins to 110.

by Cormican on Apr 1, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

1) Travis Lee made it all worthwhile.

by Wet Luzinski on Apr 1, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

God bless ESPN, who quickly balanced Glanville’s thoughtfulness and intellect with Curt Schilling.

by Wet Luzinski on Apr 4, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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