Some Phillies Links For You, May 13, 2010: The League Jerks, Dead Catchers Aren't Fun
by WholeCamels on May 13, 2010 8:15 AM EDT
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PrintRuiz hobbled as Phillies fall to Rockies in 10 innings
Awful timing; even if it's not a severe injury, it's a decent bet we've seen the end of Carlos Ruiz's recent hot streak.
Phillies manager Charlie Manuel accuses New York Mets of stealing signs
"I'm not accusing them..."
Wait, what? That's some reading comp there, NY Daily News.
The Zo Zone: Phillies Deny Stealing Signs (Again)
So why do so many teams think the Phillies are stealing signs? Former Phillies manager Larry Bowa, who coaches third base for the Los Angeles Dodgers, said during the 2009 World Series that teams suspect the Phillies of stealing signs at Citizens Bank Park using a center field camera.
"Because we beat them," Manuel said. "That's why. What the hell? Keep crying. I'm sure if they can steal signs they'll steal them. And believe we will, too, if we can get them. Yeah, we will. Legally. If you're dumb enough to let us get them then that's your fault. That's been in the game for a long time."
I love Charlie Manuel SO MUCH.
Bill Conlin: For Phillies, Ruiz' contributions are irreplaceable
Ruiz was injured mid-article. Thanks, Bill.
Lidge sent home for checkup, but Phillies say they aren't worried
No, not worried at all, they only owe him what, $20MM still?
Minor Leagues: Mayberry's slam powers IronPigs
But an awful start (4 2/3 IP; 7 runs) for Phillippe Aumont in Reading.
Nationals phenom Stephen Strasburg no-hits Class AAA Norfolk Tides over six innings
It will be fun/brutal to hit against this guy in the years to come.
Braves Complete Sweep of Brewers with 9-2 Win - Talking Chop
Great, now the Brewers are mad.
Nationals 6, Mets 4: One Out Of Three Ain't Good - Amazin' Avenue
Second place Nationals (!) take two of three from the Mets.
Cubs Prohibit Volstad From Victory, End Losing Streak - Bleed Cubbie Blue
Cubs defeat Marlins by score of 4-3.
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Ugggh
Mike Silva makes me want to choke him. Here’s his latest little take on the “Ethics of Sign Stealing.”
Bottom line: the Phillies have been caught so it’s time to stop.
Of course, I don’t believe this will happen. Charlie Manuel already has called the Rockies sore losers and accused the Mets of doing the same thing. There really is nothing MLB will do about this (I am sure the Phils are laughing at Bud Selig’s warning) and opposing teams will just have to make adjustments.
I like to have fun with the fans of Philadelphia (yes they are the worst sports fans in the country), but I always have respected what the Phils have done with their team on the field. I am not surprised about the sign stealing revelation, as I said this has been talked about for years…
It’s an attack on America as a whole, him, rush, o’reilly, nancy grace
their continued employment is an attack
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy confirmation bias!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on May 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
WholeCamels anagrams…. “Chase Mellow” or “Lame Scowl He”… Take your pick
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
charlie manuel anagrams
Helical Manure
Racial Hen Mule
Relaunch Email
Acme Hall Urine
lots of other good ones too…
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
::and the big one for Mathieson::
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s an very interesting article from baseball digest on the written and unwritten rules as it pertains to sign-stealing. It was published in 2002 in the wake of a Sammy Sosa incident, but I think it speaks to the instant allegations. Lots of good quotes and analysis.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_8_61/ai_88575166/
From the Daily News article:
Mike Pelfrey was roughed up by the Phils for six runs and his first loss of the season the previous day. He said the Mets’ numbers showed last year that the Phils were much better statistically while hitting with runners on second base.
“That’s a red flag,” Pelfrey said. “I’ve heard rumors about that – former players who played there, guys on second relaying signs. I’ve heard it from guys who played there before.”
Yeah, you’re full of shit, Pelfrey. Using this year’s numbers:
Philles, all batting situations: .273/.344 BA/OBP
Phillies, runner on 2nd only: ..288/.424 (.015/.080)
Phillies, all situations with a runner on 2nd: .263/.382 (-0.10/+.038)
Mets, all batting situations: .247/.325 BA/OBP
Mets, runner on 2nd only: .296/.434 (.049/.109)
Mets, all situations with a runner on 2nd: .225/.338 (-.022/+.013)
As a semi-control test, the Padres, a division-leading team in the same league that’s not ridiculous on offense:
Padres, all batting situations: .243/.328 BA/OBP
Padres, runner on 2nd only: .300/.470 BA/OBP (.057/.142)
Padres, all situations with a runner on 2nd: .272/.417 BA/OBP (.029/.089)
Maybe someone should investigate San Diego for sign-stealing.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
by The Dark on May 13, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
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great work
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on May 13, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, the OBP numbers had my eyebrows jump at first. Then I thought about intentional walks in 2 or 23 situations, and it made sense. I would be surprised if any team has a lower-than-usual OBP in a -2 situation, although BA might be lower.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Hmm...formatting fail.
To be honest, the OBP numbers had my eyebrows jump at first. Then I thought about intentional walks in =2= or =23 situations, and it made sense. I would be surprised if any team has a lower-than-usual OBP in a =2= situation, although BA might be lower.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
They’ve clearly stolen all the good weather from Denver.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome headline. Where else can I come for prohibition humor?
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on May 13, 2010 10:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
why, the Intertoobs are full of laffs!
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Excellent link. Off the bat, and replacing key words in the headline at the bottom of the page, this cartoon almost perfectly captures my reaction to the ongoing sign stealing mess.
That was my fave too. Also, tasers and whatever else blows baseball fans skirts up into bunches.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
really… what a crazy week. Tasers, binoculars, baseball on a frozen tundra and our new “keep crying” battle hymn…
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I still don’t understand how Billmeyer is supposed to have signaled the signs to the Phillies batters.
I was thinking the same thing. My idea was this: Billmeyer has a radio/cell phone and picks off the signs. He then relays it to small speakers embedded in batting helmet foam. Baserunners can then use body language to communicate to the batter what type of pitch is coming.
Still, questions:
1) If you’re going to be that sneaky, why give the guy in the Phillies uniform the binoculars?
2) Why not either use someone in plain clothes and position him in the CF stands?
3) Why not use the base coaches all the time rather than waiting for a guy to get to second?
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Heck, why not just watch a portable TV from the dugout? I mean, I know there’s a slight delay, but it can’t be longer than the delay that would be required for Billmeyer to send in the signals from the freakin bullpen.
Also, once we get inside the castle, how do we find Humperdink?
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Amazin' Avenue weighs in on Charlie's comments
hysterical… some of my favorite comments:
what a douchebag
by cjmulrain on May 12, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions
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Wow, your a real class act there Charlie
And Phillies fans wonder why there team is so loathed
by blueandorange4life on May 12, 2010 8:39 PM PDT reply actions
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The crazy thing is that I feel like if you polled MLB fans around the country, most of them still dislike the Mets more than the Phillies. It makes absolutely NO sense.
I’m sure Jayson Stark is going to spin this into Chollie being the greatest leader since Patton.
2009 Did Not Happen
by cjmulrain on May 13, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
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Charlie Manuel is a fucking moron
This doesn’t even remotely surprise me
There is no hope…. there is no future….there is only GRISSIONZ
The 2010 Mets- Hey, we may suck, but what did you expect?
by Syler on May 12, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions
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Awww somebody is getting all defensive
because the world now knows he has no integrity. Thats cute.
by KeithsMoustache on May 12, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions
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Fuck that fuckin’ hypocrite.
If he dropped dead tomorrow, I wouldn’t be sad.
by R_Adragna on May 12, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
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What a fucking assholish douche cocksucking motherfucking piece of shit (Victorino is).
“Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!”
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on May 12, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
I think it would be fun to stand out in Ashburn Alley with posters and hold them up at random when the Phillies are at bat. Best done as a 2-fan operation.
First fan: Holds up signs with the names of pitches on them.
FASTBALL, CURVE, CUTTER, SLIDER
Second fan: Holds up signs with location
INSIDE, OUTSIDE, HIGH & TIGHT, HIGH, LOW
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
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Yes yes, someone PLEASE DO THIS
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on May 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Should we brand the posters with the website so we could boost site traffic a la David Cohen?
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
and maybe wear t-shirts that say TheGoodPhight.com ??
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
the posters should definitely have a giant pair of binoculars drawn underneath…
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Fans 1&2 should also come with binoculars to make it look authentic.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
What if multiple fans hold these signs up all around the ballpark? It would be like the end of Spartacus.
I’m just hoping that I didn’t just come up with the associate blog lord initiation rite.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
How about a few giant signs of a catcher making various hand signals?
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Make it really obvious that it’s a joke:
SLURVE, EEPHUS, GYROBALL, SHUUTO
Honor is no substitute for victory.
lol awesome. Yes. I was thinking the same thing re the binoculars – made out of cardboard and tinfoil, or a cartoonishly large toy telescope.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
This has GOT to happen on a nationally televised game. You just know it’ll get play
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Location; IN YOUR EAR, HIT THE MASCOT, etc.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
This nefarious plan is now front pag’d to show the Innertoobs that it was our idea first.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll be stolen by one of two message boards that were one but a new dictator split them into two factions – which is bad for the entier interwebz
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What ever happened to the life long maxim if you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying?
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
you’ll be getting a letter from NASCAR’s trademark attorneys
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait a minute, I didn’t say rubbing is racing now did i?
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think the folk for nascar bother with lawyers? or spelling?:)
(I admit that watching races is something I enjoy doing – sometimes some of the moves those drivers make at 180 MPH is fun to see, and think about how i’d die if i did that, sure you can do it with a torn ACL and it ain’t a sport – but it’s a skill – and you can get big money doing it)
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I get into Talladega and Daytona.. the superspeedways with the drafting. The others… not so much.
by Boundforbeach on May 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The more aggressive rules this year have made it fun
And seriously – theater or not having two of the best drivers, on the same team – yelling at each other through the media – that’s just awesome
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Trey Hillman fired
Sure the royals have a crappy record but did anyone expect them NOT to have a crappy record?
Managers who get fired from teams that don’t have enough talent to contend just get a raw deal
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
Dayton Moore deserves to be fired too, but Hillman is just awful tactically. He remained blindly loyal to Jason Kendall, refused to give Kila Ka’aihue a shot, and seemed to think Chris Getz was the second coming of Ryne Sandberg (which relegates former top prospect Alex Gordon to shagging fly balls in left field in Omaha). And his bullpen deployment was just wretched.
Ok – so there was a reason – but i mean record wise – no one expects the royals to compete for anything, like ever, right?
by jemagee on May 13, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He just wasn’t doing the right things to let the teams with money scout his club properly.
by Wet Luzinski on May 13, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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