Ryan Madson out at least eight weeks after toe surgery

by WholeCamels on May 4, 2010 5:33 PM EDT

Todd Zolecki tells us that Phillies erstwhile closer/set-up guy Ryan Madson will miss the next eight weeks after undergoing surgery on Monday to repair a broken right big toe, sustained after Madson kicked a chair after blowing a Save on Thursday in San Francisco.

This is obviously very bad news, as Madson is the Phillies' best (only decent?) relief pitcher.

The Phillies' bullpen, as currently constructed:

Brad Lidge, Jose Contreras, Danys Baez, J.C. Romero, ~~Antonio Bastardo,~~ David Herndon, Chad Durbin, Nelson Figueroa

I don't feel so good.

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Ryan Madson disappoints me.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on May 4, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions

Cause of the way he pitches or cause his oe got injured?

by jemagee on May 4, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

The kicking the chair thing—not the pitching thing. He’s valuable to the club and I hate to lose him in an already thin BP.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on May 4, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Correction, WC: Bastardo is still in Triple-A. Which isn’t terrible in and of itself, but the fact that we only have one lefty in that pen — and that he’s currently topping out at 89 with his fastball — means that he’s likely to be missed.

by PhillyFriar on May 4, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

I’d like to meet Mr. H. Rumph Jr.

by FuquaManuel on May 4, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions

I know I should be more worried than I am, but I’m feeling pretty mellow about this. I guess I’ve just seen so many worse bullpens over the years that this isn’t fazing me so much.

by taco pal on May 4, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions

well I feel bad enough for both of us. Our bullpen was a concern; now it’s a liability. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mr. Toe costs the team a return trip to the post season.

not to sound pessimistic or anything …

by Philibuster on May 4, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m with taco pal, personally – this doesn’t really bother me. If they don’t make the post season, it will be for a lot of bigger reasons than just Madsen. This is nothing they can’t deal with for two months, provided someone, ANYONE, else steps up in that bullpen.

The Phillies are in first place despite their shortcomings and have a reputation for getting better as the season goes along. The offense goes into funks and then comes out looking awesome. The pitching staff doesn’t settle in until mid-May or so. Everyone’s convinced the bullpen will be a disaster, whether they’re right (2007, 2009) or wrong (2008). This happens seemingly every year, and yet every year there are people surprised that this is going on.

Sorry, I get where you’re coming from, but I can’t be too pessimistic right now.

by Aphilfan on May 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Past performance, future results, etc., etc. I realize our bullpens have been much, much worse in the past, but I fail to see how this is a good thing for the Phils. I just think this is an additional straw on the camel’s back that wasn’t necessary. We still have no idea when Rollins or Happ will return. Meh.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on May 4, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Well I didn’t actually say it was a “good thing for the Phils.” I said I’m feeling mellow about it, i.e. I don’t think it’s the end of the world.

by taco pal on May 5, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions

MAdsen is in a funk for sure. Bad games, home run galore, and this chair thing. I guess there was no way he couldn’t get out of hurting the team.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on May 4, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions

Matheison stat. Pretty please!

by j reed on May 4, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, really. Problem is, Baez would be the logical choice to be replaced by Matheison, but they have a financial commitment to Baez and Mr. Smug would never admit that it was idiotic to sign Baez in the first place—especially this early in the season.

by FuquaManuel on May 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions

how much did Baez cost us – do you know off hand?

by j reed on May 4, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

A TWO year financial statement

by Ant on May 4, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions

$%&$#&^$*@)$!($&)_$^@

by j reed on May 4, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions

$5.25 million., 2 yrs. N-joy

by Wet Luzinski on May 4, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

i just spit coffee out my nose

by j reed on May 4, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Baez could also right the ship. He was pretty good last year. I know reliever stats are volatile and all that, but if his 2009 stats are liable not to repeat themselves, then the same is true for his early-season struggles this year.

by taco pal on May 4, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions