Runs? We Don't Need No Stinking Runs. Marlins 2, Phillies 0

Yup… This game is my case in point for why wins and losses is a bs stat for pitchers— Halladay is 8-4 and deserves to be 10-2— in losses to Pittsburgh and Florida he gave up a grand total of 3 runs… He deserved to win those games… I am starting to think it is time for a new stat— earned wins sounds like an appropriate name— very simply, it would grant a pitcher a win for any game
in which he got a quality start, would become
somewhat offense dependant if it was not a quality start, but the pitcher gave up fewer than four or five runs, granting a win if the team won, and giving a loss if the pitcher gave up more than five runs, regardless of the team’s actual performance.

Who do you think??? Bleacher Report sent me an e-mail earlier today with a link to an article suggesting that the Phillies were going to be in the market to fix their bench… At this point, I think they need a bat.

We were losing— no use of wasting Lidge on a game that is not a save opportunity.

The problem is that the minute that I get to doing more than a grumble about it, I want to scream— he deserves better than this… And I am beginning to think he will never get it here.

If he pitched perfect he and johnson would have been gone cause we were going to extra inngs where we would have put that punk Baez in ( I hate him) and he would have done the same thing give up home run and we still lose and all espn talks about is how halliday was perfect through 9 but Phils still lose in 10th

It will require a copious amount of strippers to go along with what ever scenario you choose.

Re: Dobbs

I wonder how much of that was about Dobbs and how much of that was disappointment by the crowd that Halladay was not going to pitch the 9th… Granted I would have booed Dobbs for being Dobbs, but I wonder if this booing also had something to do with pitching.

But is the manager doing any worse than he normally does? I don’t really think so. His problem is that what he normally does often lacks logic. He’s a “player’s coach,” and all that mumbo jumbo. That line is a lot easier to stomach when they are scoring gobs of runs and his often stupid in-game decisions aren’t under as much scrutiny.

That said, Amaro deserves some of the blame here for saddling Cholly with players like Dobbs and Baez in the first place.

a bit surprising to me too, the Dobbs move. He was playing the matchup – 4 for 8 was appealing. It did run up against his other MO of going with the hot hand, so I wondered if he might have gone with BenFran.

intended for dajalfi’s post about Cholly slump.

insert mental image of Humphrey Bogart from Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

Definitely

is gonna be fine. They’ve got the walking slumpbusters coming in.

And in the pitching lies the problem— I am particularly nervous about them seeing Wakefield again— just as the hitting is picking up a little, they get ANOTHER knuckleballer.

me! I keep telling these youngsters, your ass gets wired differently after you hit 40.

I would agree with dropping him in the batting order, but who do you put 5-7 and in what order??? With Utley and Howard batting third and fourth, your fifth hitter almost needs to be right handed, and I do not think that Ruiz is up to batting that high in the order.

I agree, but in some respects this happens a a few times in just about every baseball game. The key is what happens next. Were you watching on TV? Chris Wheeler actually had it pegged when even he predicted fastball, so clearly Uggla was thinking that way too.

Doesn’t mean Baez and Ruiz had to give into the guy and actually call it/ throw it.

All too true… that is the thing that keeps me from completely hating Baez. (although I have no desire to see him on a mound anytime soon)