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Some Phillies Links for You, June 14, 2010: Head of the Class, Going to Rehab, Treading Water

2010 Draft Review - Phuture Phillies
The War and Peace of 2010 Phillies draft profiles. Get a cup of coffee and have a read.

Philadelphia Phillies Draft Review - Minor League Ball
John Sickels takes a look at the 2010 Philadelphia Phillies draft class.

Phillies chat with Bill Conlin | Philly | 06/13/2010

Bill Conlin takes your questions about the Phillies in a live chat at 11 a.m.

This ought to be good...

Phils wake up against Wakefield
Ugly wins are OK by me at this point.

McCaffery: Don’t expect a Philly title anytime soon

The Phillies had a chance to be a dynasty, but jettisoned Cliff Lee. They’ve always been at their best when reducing their show to a fireworks display, and so they again were satisfied with the short burst of noise and sparkle.

The farm system is ordinary. The ballpark, delightful, will grow boring within the next two years — as all retro-parks do. When the crowds thin, so will the income. And when that does, the small-market reality will resurface. Prepare, in other words, for a decade of bobblehead nights.

What the sam hell is he talking about?

Hamels back in ‘08 form? - Philled In

"I think it’s just a matter of being as free and easy as I possibly can," Hamels said. "Obviously, speed can be something that looks cool. But really I think it’s about how they take swings off you."

I've never been big on the "COLE IS A HEAD CASE" thing but quotes like this show that Cole Hamels is really "getting it."

Minor Leagues: Thunder blank Mets, 6-0 | Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/13/2010

Lakewood 11, West Virginia 5 CHARLESTON, W.Va. - The BlueClaws topped the Power in a South Atlantic League game. Sebastian Valle doubled in a run in the first and homered to lead off the sixth. Jonathan Singleton hit a grand slam in the top of the eighth.

Valle and Singleton are just crushing the ball right now. Really good stuff.

Lehigh Valley IronPigs erupt for 10-1 win over Buffalo - mcall.com
I wish I could care but that team is so prospect-free that I really don't give a damn.

Happ's rehab start doesn't go as planned
At least I wasn't mentally counting on J.A. Happ contributing this year.

Paul Hagen: Phillies can't expect trade-deadline boost this year
Enjoy the show, kids.

Star-divide

Mets 11, Orioles 4: Wright, Manimal Power Sweep Of O's - Amazin' Avenue
Yuck.

Glaus' Big Day Leads Braves to 7-3 Victory, Winning Road Trip - Talking Chop
Barf.

Game 64: Stras Dominates, Offense Shows Up - Federal Baseball
Gag.

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Anyone free at 11 a.m. to do some chatting with Conlin? I’m not, but if anyone is, reply to this comment to queue up questions for Big Bill. Expect dangerously high levels of smug-o-metrics in reply, however.

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I think “bitter” is my adjective of choice for Conlin, rather than “smug.” Very subtle difference.

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet, it exists. Understood.

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I may be around… If I am, I’d be more than willing to convey any questions from here…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

For pure entertainment value, I’d like to see how he responds to:

“What’s your assessment of the performance of RAJ so far?”

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Have Phillies fans lost touch with reality?”

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you specify a bit more on this one?

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Is Cole Hamels mentally tough?”

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone should ask him if he feels embarrassed that he was so wrong about Michael Taylor.

(Not that I think Taylor can’t recover. But it would be funny.)

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Done… and done.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sent them all in… seems he’s avoiding them though… lol

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Conlin’s using an iPad?!? Now that’s just weird!

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still trying to find the jam release control, though.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus… Is there any chance Singleton can play left field? I mean I really don’t see how his defense in left can possible be worse than what Raul can contribute at the point he’s ready to come up. He obviously will be blocked at first, and it’d be a shame to see him stuck in the minors because of that horrid contract…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s way too early to be losing sleep over this.

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least it’s something besides “Why can’t we score runs…” to loose sleep over…

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it may be a little premature to be getting discouraged about Happ. I kind of feel like early rehab starts are supposed to go badly.

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

agree. The real key is that he is well enough to go for his next start, and that the mph are there or better.

by Wet Luzinski on Jun 14, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me that Tweet from yesterday about Happ getting sent back up was a rumor— I want him back, but not until he has shown that he is ready— any sooner is failure and injury waiting to happen.

by dannijd on Jun 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too could care less about the results but the 6 mph drop in arm speed is sheesh worthy.

by j reed on Jun 14, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed here… considering how much time off he’s had and the fact that it was so early in the season, i’m more concerned with him just getting work

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on Jun 14, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had basically forgotten he existed, so I’m not discouraged.

by phatj on Jun 14, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I shouldn’t have started every comment with the words “I think”.

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

The one about we are not going to win with that comment about Lee. I guess if we did have him it would just be another pitching performance that we wouldn’t hit . So I think this comment is a little reaching.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

How did the Rotation turn to Halladay Kendrick and then Moyer. This is wrong. I not the smartest guy but to me a spot start of somebody to try to get a rotation back in order seems to make sense. That is what should have been done in boston. Is that Fiquria I know I spelled it wrong is he hurt or did they forget about him.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jun 14, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I assume you were going for Figueroa. He was DFA’ed to make room for Lidge, I believe, and is now with the IronPigs.

by phatj on Jun 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I care and some kids in Florida care. But thanks for clearing that one up for me

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jun 14, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, thank you!

What kids in Florida are you talking about?

What difference does it make what order the rotation is? They’ve set it up so that Halladay pitches every fifth day and the other four guys rotate among the remaining games. So the rotation isn’t going to stay the same. But again, who cares?

by phatj on Jun 14, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is Jamie Moyer’s kids?

by taco pal on Jun 14, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is weird is that for a while it looked like they were going to allow Halladay to just go in rotation— he has had a few six day breaks, so I thought they were going to stick with it, kind of to balance for the fact that they he has pitched so many innings through his starts. But Halladay- Sabathia will at least be an interesting pitching game… I just hope that the offense can give Halladay a couple of runs to protect.

by dannijd on Jun 14, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we don’t want Moyer to pitch against the Yankees. It isn’t pretty
Poseda: 45 AB, 15 H 1 HR 7 RBI
ARod: 54 AB 21H 6 HR 12 RBI
Jeter: 68AB 22H 2HR 3RBI
Teixeira: 36 AB 11H 1HR 6RBI
In that new park it would be a Chernobyl re-enactment. Hopefully Moyer’s number isn’t up.

by j reed on Jun 14, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately it is up Thursday. Over Under 3 innings???

by dannijd on Jun 14, 2010 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wait. Arod has a hip flexor strain I believe so he might not be playing. If Arod isn’t playing I’d say over 3, maybe Moyer goes 4. If Moyer goes 5, call the Vatican. If Arod is playing, under 3.

by j reed on Jun 14, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor had it ARod could be back by Tuesday. And by Manuel standards (see his remarks about one Albert Pujols), he is due… Why do I have a deep sense of forboding about visiting the evil empire?? Maybe because my favorite Empire slayer is playing out west, and the rest of the team is missing their light sabers?

by dannijd on Jun 14, 2010 11:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually Halladay is a name in bedtime baseball stories that causes widdle Yankee fans to wet the bet at night.

by j reed on Jun 15, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yet, they did not do that thing they usually do with things that they can not beat— recruit him for the Empire…

by dannijd on Jun 15, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that Halladay would be able to get an extra start in prior to the All-Star break. This way gives him six instead of the five he would have received the other way.

by dannijd on Jun 14, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believed we could have kept Lee for the one year but, that we didn’t doesn’t mean the team is done by any stretch. Wow – does the editor spend their time playing sudoku on the john instead of reviewing what his creating writing class wants to put out there for public consumption?

by j reed on Jun 14, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes the phillies maybe could have kept lee – and maybe gotten a better deal for him

Not sure how either of those things would affect the craptacular bats

The proudest word in baseball is gamer - Tim McCarver 6/12/2010

by jemagee on Jun 14, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how either of those things would affect the craptacular bats

Me neither, just responding to the McCafferty highlighted quote in links above. He’d be really nice to have but it’s not a dynasty breaker. I don’t even know if we can call this a dynasty yet anyway. But hey for a pitcher Lee is good at the dish.

by j reed on Jun 14, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

His arguments

- The Eagles have players with potential to form the core of a Superbowl winning team – but then again maybe not. So the Eagles will be dud for the next decade
- The Phillies are getting older and got rid of Cliff Lee, so time to forget the dynasty dreams
- The Flyers just had a shot, so that’s probably it for them for the next few years.
- The Sixers are the Sixers

by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 15, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah and he still has a job.

by j reed on Jun 15, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I have his job— I can come up with things that are at least that level of pessimistic with an uptick in the logic category.

by dannijd on Jun 15, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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