A Few Phillies Links for You, June 21, 2010: DON'T PANIC, Old Money Quotes, Yay BlueClaws Guys!
by Wet Luzinski on Jun 21, 2010 8:32 AM EDT
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PrintHalladay, Phillies fall to Twins. Takeaway?
Incredibly, the Phillies are just 8-7 in games when Halladay starts.
If the Phillies get it in gear enough to get back to another World Series, we might see the Twins again, but maybe with you-know-who. If you're frustrated enough to boo, remember: DON'T PANIC.
Rollins seems finished with rehab games; Valdez making case to stay with Phils Agree with the first commenter - wary of a story that starts, "Rollins seems finished..." prior to him playing his 13th game of the season.
Phillies Notes: Phillies face tough call at shortstop. If he hollers, let him go.
City Paper: A New Hope: Can the Phillies' first-rounder overcome his privileged upbringing?
(h/t David Cohen) Published last week, but way worth the read, not least of which for Jesse Biddle's senior project and his dad's money quote:
"I actually stood here with those guys, the seniors he was on stage with, and I told them, 'He's not going to make the friends you make, he's not going to get to go out partying, and he's not going to be able to get laid the way you guys get laid.' You need to recognize that you're his boys, and you can't let him slip away."
A game, a father, and a son. Speaking of dads, here's Phillies beat writer Matt Gelb on his dad. Happy (belated) Father's Day to all you TGP dads out there.
Inside the Phillies: Phillies ran into tough schedule, tough hurlers. Another look at Slumpmas. Well, at least we're starting to see the past tense in headlines. Amirite? Amirite?
Fangraphs: Pedro and the Phils. This time, by the numbers. The more I ponder the move, the more I see it as a failure of imagination (except for the light in the night sky and the superhero cape parts).
Phillies' prospect Singleton discovers that patience pays off. Good profile on the 18-year-old Lakewood phenom. We'll see how patient everyone is in three years at this rate.
Scott Mathieson should be useful and maybe better despite his surgeries. Forcefully put.
Prospectus Q&A: Davey Lopes. If you missed the source of the "Chase Utley has a hurt knee" rumor on Friday, it was this piece. Really, I don't know where these things get started. Oh, wait:
Chase [Utley] has been hampered by a little bit of a knee injury.
Beyond that tempest in a teapot, I've always enjoyed interviews with Lopes. (Subscription usually req'd, but not for this piece).
NL East:
Talking Chop: Kawakami, Braves Blow Big Lead, Still Win, 8-5. Everything's coming up roses and lollipops for the Braves.
Amazin' Avenue: Yankees 4, Mets 0: Teix Message to Santana Says, "LOL, WUT?"
Fishstripes: Fish Wrap: Marlins 4, Rays 1. Josh Johnson > David Price
Federal Baseball: Washington Nationals Drop 6th Straight, 6-3, to Chicago White Sox. FreddyG sighting!
Minor leagues: Frustrated by the parent club? Below the AAA level, there's some excitement down on the farm.
IronPigs 5, S/W-B Yankees 4. First series win of the year for our piggies. Nate Bump hit on elbow, though.
Reading 7, New Britain 4. Matt Rizzotti is en fuego, with a 2-HR game as the R-Phils sweep the weekend. Saturday night was J. C. Ramirez' AA debut.
Lakewood 6, Kannapolis 3. Congrats BlueClaws, for clinching the first half title in the South Atlantic League's Northern Division. Jonathan Singleton 2 HRs for the (mostly underage'd) champagne bash'd win! They're likely to stay intact for the second half, so get up to Lakewood if you can. As a lagniappe, here's a Saturday Inquirer piece on Sebastian Valle.
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Williamsport 4, State College 2. The short season off to a nice start, as the Crosscutters swept the Spikes. Eric Pettis, welcome to pro ball, and a helluva weekend for Domingo Santana, who was sent down from idle Clearwater.
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so you’ve come to terms with Dawkins’ departure?
by Wet Luzinski on Jun 21, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Out of town, just learned Ruiz may have been concussed.
I didn’t see how Ruiz was hit with the broken bat but that he got injured because of it doesn’t suprise me if he was wearing the traditional head/face gear. . The goalie helmet set up is superior protection to the traditional batting helmet and face mask. Hockey’s dedicated more time and money into concussion research than most sports and it is evident in their commitment to their improved helmet designs. I guess it’s hotter and reduces your hearing, but it seems a small price to pay for such a potenially disabling injury esp. with the frequency with which the maple bats break. If he wasn’t wearing the the new goalie helmet style I hope he will now.
He was wearing traditional head gear. It will be interesting to see if he switches to the goalie style helmet at least for a little while after this injury. However, the thing that my mom and I wondered about following this injury is whether he will be able to get back behind the plate and go back to catching as if the injury had never occurred. I know that this is kind of a freak accident (or at least a relatively rare one, as I have never heard of it occurring), but I know that a lot of pitchers who have taken line drives to the head were never the same pitcher afterwards, and I wonder if Ruiz will have some problems at least in the early going with staying focused and not letting the fear get to him.
I think standing 60 feet from the plate with balls constantly in your general direction at speeds of 100mph+ with no headgear on you, is a lot more horrifying than crouching behind the plate with the threat of a bat possibly clipping you. Not to downplay Ruiz’s injury, but it may be a little apples to oranges as a comparison.
True… I was more thinking in terms of blows to the head, and the possibility that even though he walked away from this one that it leaves him a little spooked… I am hoping not… but I know it is a possibility.
+5 points for the photo caption, WL.
by PhillyFriar on Jun 21, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Germantown Friends
Amazing background. Made me wonder if next year someone from my mother’s alma mater, Westtown Friends, will be the first pick of the Pirates. If I remember correctly, the two schools are traditional rivals in high school sports.
by phillyinportland on Jun 22, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Toronto just DFA Edwin Encarnacion…any takers…?
I’d take him over Dobbs.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
As would I. Unfortunately, I think the money’s going to be an issue — the Phils aren’t claiming him (and the prorated portion of his $4.75 million salary) off waivers — and if he does clear waivers and the Blue Jays agree to eat any of his salary, there are likely to be teams out there that will surrender more than the Phillies to get him.
That’s the whole thing— he is probably if not definitely improvement on Dobbs, but a prorated portion of 4.75 mil. is quite a bit of money for a backup.
by dannijd on Jun 21, 2010 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of Player Movement
The Washington Nationals have optioned Opening day starter John Lannan to Double A. This was more than a little surprising to me considering that you would think that even with Strasburg up now that he would still be the #2 starter in their rotation.
by dannijd on Jun 21, 2010 9:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You consider Lannan a number 2 starter? In 75 inn he’s given up 104 hits, 35 BB, 24 K for a 1.85 WHIP. Hardly a 2 in my mind.
I didn’t… However, being as he started off as the Number 1 Starter in Washington, it was a surprise to see him go from that to AA in less than three months.
by dannijd on Jun 22, 2010 7:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you are putting too much stock into pitching rotation slots. Just because he was his team’s “number 1” doesn’t mean he’s immune from being sent down if he sucks.
by FuquaManuel on Jun 22, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
It really is amazing to me how little you know about the team you profess to love.
by FuquaManuel on Jun 22, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, give her a few more years and she will probably learn about google.
by FuquaManuel on Jun 22, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t begrudge anyone asking a question in order to learn. I really don’t. And I don’t profess to have nearly the encyclopaedic knowledge of the team and its history that others on the site do. My intent to post my link was one to help guide rather than answer the question.
We all have to learn about who Andy Ashby is at some point, amirite? She can count her blessings that she apparently didn’t have to live through the experience.
by Wet Luzinski on Jun 22, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
But if I had to, I’d rather hit baseball-reference on him years later rather than having to endure the hype, promise, and bust. Twice, no less.
He did once strike out the side on 9 pitches, iirc. I could look it up, but who has the time, really.
by Wet Luzinski on Jun 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s frustrating is that between the first bust and the second hype, he really was a very good pitcher, but only for other teams.
Kind of like, dare I speak his name, Adam Eaton?
by phillyinportland on Jun 23, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You could really stand to lay off, Fuqua.
Who is Benny Culp? Don’t know? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Who is Apples Andy Lapihuska? Don’t know? You should become a Yankees fan.
Who is Issac Pearson? Don’t know? You should crawl into a hole and die.
Who is Clarence Mitchell? Don’t know? That’s ’cause everyone hates you.
Or, you could realize that not everyone has committed to memory all of the many thousands of players who ever donned a Phils jersey, and give someone a break for asking a simple goddamn question.
Now, granted, Dannijd could have simply looked up the answer, but still, your response was uncalled for.
I’m just saying, a little due diligence never hurt anyone.
She didn’t know who Bobby Freaking Abreu or Dallas Green were for goodness sake. This is recent history. After a while it begins to reflect on the poster’s credibility when she continually demonstrates a lack of knowledge of some pretty basic points in the team’s history.
What I’m saying is that there is a line between “simple questions” and “ignorance”. The latter deserves ridicule, as, at the very least it might shame the offender into no longer being ignorant.
Fair enough.
I didn’t see her asking about Abreau or Green.
However, I still think you should cut her some slack. There’s plenty of people who are, for lack of a better word, new at being fans. Whether its because they just moved to Philly, just became interested in baseball, or that the Phils started not sucking, who knows. The point, though, is that just becuase they weren’t around in 1999 when we picked up Abreu, that doesn’t mean they don’t “love” the team.
Now, if she didn’t know who Jimmy Rollins was, then yeah. you’d have a point. But Abreu has been gone for what? Four years? Ashby played in the early ‘90s? Whose to say she didn’t start being a fan last year?
All I’m saying is, you get more flies with honey. Try being nice once in a while—especially to new folks asking questions.
Funny, my intent wasn’t to harsh on FM at all. He made a fair, albeit pointed but non-profane observation. Since we’ve been meeting weekly, this is real progress for him. ;)
The site is riddled with experts who have already done their historical/statistical legwork and enjoy deeper-minded analysis & its discussion without having to backtrack on googling Phillies and their statistics, no matter how obscure. Seems a reasonable expectation that you should know your basics, and then some, find out—or let that particular thread go.
Ashby was a fairly recent “number one” starter who was just dreadful and did factor into the discussion thread. When discussions go well, someone might have taken that and mentioned Joe Cowley (though that’s usually me, I go back that far). Then someone else might have remarked how interesting it is that a guy like Halladay is a pitcher who got a multi-year deal, as busts like Cowley and Ashby made the Phils pretty gun-shy. Or someone else might notice that the Nats are starting to behave like a contender and getting rid of dreck rather than letting them hang on the roster, and how refreshing is that? And away we’d gallop.
No one’s perfect, and I have and expect to make my fair share of mistakes/omissions, etc. Plenty of people also have great thoughts out there and lurk for months or even years before diving in.
by Wet Luzinski on Jun 22, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Joe Cowley, in a weird, twisted way. I was always fascinated at how utterly he fell apart. He wasn’t just bad, he was incomprehensibly awful. I remember not even being overly upset at his meltdowns, but being fascinated, like watching a black hole forming. His ERA after 2 starts was 48.60. 48.60, I think that’s worth retyping to make clear I didn’t misplace a decimal. (He was so bad, Baseball-Reference twice refused to load the page, so I could check that stat.)
It’s a shame as he was a decent pitcher before imploding like the Hindenburg in 1987. I actually feel bad being so fascinated by a guy who had to go into counseling 23 years ago.
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