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Last Minute Phillies Draft Thoughts

The 2010 Major League Baseball Rule 4 Draft is upon us.  The first round will be aired tonight at 7:00 p.m. on MLB Network (and on MLB.com for those of us without a fancy pants sports tier as part of our cable package), with the other 49 rounds taking place on Tuesday and Wednesday.  There's going to be a lot to digest, both in the next few days and in the aftermath of the August 15th signing deadline, but MLB is nice enough to spoon feed us just 32 picks to whet our appetites.

Now, it's still impossible to know exactly what the Phillies are going to do, especially given the general unpredictability of Marti Wolever (as Andy Seiler noted in his Q&A on Friday).  But I figured it would be a good thought exercise to identify some possibilities for the Phils at #27, based on a couple of different categories.  Check below the jump as we run through a list of names...

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Prep Arms Galore

As Andy noted in last Friday's Q&A, this is a very pitching heavy draft, especially at the top end.  The Phillies haven't taken a prep pitcher in the first round since 2002, and while that guy may be an un-clutch head case who the organization would be better off without, I guess we can still call that a successful pick.  While Jameson Taillon is likely to go #3 overall, and I'm hard-pressed to see Karsten Whitson and Dylan Covey still on the board, there will be a number of intriguing prep arms available at #27.

Keith Law, among others, had been linking the Phillies to local product Jesse Biddle, a 6'6", 225-lb. southpaw from Germantown Friends School.  Biddle has had some serious helium in recent weeks as his velocity has jumped into the mid-90s at times, and the latest rumor from Frankie Piliere links him to the Brewers at #14 overall.  The last time the organization was so strongly linked to a local product was back in 2008, when Jason Knapp was identified as a probable draft choice early in the process.  In a draft of few certainties, I'll admit I'd be a bit surprised if the Phils bypass Biddle in the event he's still available.

If the organization does go the high school pitcher route and Biddle isn't on the board, there are a couple of additional possibilities.  A.J. Cole and Aaron Sanchez are classic projectable righthanders, with Cole standing 6'5", 190 lbs., and Sanchez checking in at 6'3", 175 lbs.  Given the organization's recent history of focusing on California and Texas (as opposed to Florida), as pointed out by James from Phuture Phillies last week, perhaps Sanchez is a touch more likely, although I'd personally prefer the generally higher rated Cole.  One more name to watch is Texan flamethrower Tyrell Jenkins -- no, not Leroy Jenkins -- a two-sport star committed to play quarterback at Baylor.  The 6'4", 180-pounder may come with a higher price tag due to the football commitment, but could be worth it if he makes the expected improvements by virtue of focusing solely on baseball.

Toolsheds!

Ruben Amaro has made no secret of his fondness for Austin Wilson, with Rube visiting Wilson and his family in California a few weeks ago.  The 6'4", 210-lb. Wilson is perhaps the premiere athlete in the draft, a muscular outfielder with plus-plus raw power whose package should probably evoke comparisons to Mike Stanton.  But Wilson is not without risk, as there are serious concerns about his pitch recognition.  That, combined with the fact that his strong Stanford commitment makes his price tag a huge question mark, leads me to hope the Phillies will steer clear of him in the event that he's on the board at #27.

A couple of prep infielders seem like good fits for Marti Wolever's drafting strategy as well.  Yordy Cabrera has a profile that might remind some of Anthony Hewitt: an older (19 years old) prep shortstop who's destined to move to third base or maybe even right field, with huge raw power but questions about his ability to make contact.  Kaleb Cowart is less likely to still be on the board when the Phils are up, and his Florida State commitment will have him asking for more than slot money at #27, but he's another upside play who would immediately become the best third base prospect in the system.  A switch-hitter with good power, Cowart has the arm (he's a top prospect as a pitcher as well) and the actions to be a quality defensive third baseman.

Aside from Wilson, there's another outfielder who could intrigue Wolever & Co. -- I know, toolsy outfielders, who'd have thunk it?  Gary Brown is a center fielder from Cal State Fullerton whose calling card is his speed, which scouts grade as plus-plus.  That speed makes him a potentially excellent center fielder, and he also uses it effectively on the basepaths, but he's an impatient hitter with little power potential.  Given what the Phillies already have in their system, it might behoove them to diversify a bit.

Wild Card?

Under Wolever, the Phillies have generally shied away from grabbing college players in the first round, with Joe Savery the lone exception. I get the sense that the organization aims for the fences with its first round selection, and views most college players as lacking the sort of upside they're looking for.  Depending on how the board breaks this year, however, there could be some possibilities from the college ranks.

On the pitching side of the ledger, Jim Salisbury has already linked the organization to Citadel righthander Asher Wojciechowski, a 6'4", 235-lb. flamethrower.  Wojo's fastball is a special pitch, touching 96 at times, and his slider is a wipeout offering as well.  His stuff offers more upside than the typical college selection, and I'd venture to guess that he's a backup option for the Phils if some of their top tier targets fall through.

A college hitter the organization has been linked with is University of Minnesota catcher Mike Kvasnicka. A switch hitter, Kvasnicka just moved behind the dish this year, but has the potential to stick there, and his bat would be above-average for the position, as he offers excellent plate discipline with solid power.

In addition, there are some high school hitters that don't fit the classic Phillies mold, but could be appealing to the organization nonetheless.  Keith Law's latest mock had the Phils taking Christian Yelich, a prep first baseman from California, though the scouting community seems to have questions about Yelich's power ceiling, making it a dicey pick from my perspective.  Drew Vettleson is an outfielder from Washington (the organization has seemed to focus on the Northwest in recent drafts) who lacks elite athleticism, but has a polished bat for a prep product, and would be a nice complement to the Kyrell Hudsons and Zach Colliers that currently comprise the bottom of the organizational outfield depth chart.

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Now that I've spent 1200 words guessing at the organization's first round pick, I feel pretty confident they'll go ahead and take a name that I didn't mention.  That's the nature of the beast, but whatever winds up happening, I'll be here to provide analysis.  If there are any names you are curious about, feel free to ask in the comments, and even though I'll be on the road today, I'll try my best to answer any questions.  In the meantime, Phuture Phillies is likely to have a lively banter during the draft tonight, and of course, MLB Bonus Baby will be a hub of activity.

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I expect taco pal has mixed feelings about this week and the proliferation of the dreaded six-letter “t-word.”

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes it’s been weighing heavily on me. Perhaps I should take PF’s advice and go on blog-vacation for a few days.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, he gets a little touchy about six lettered words starting with T. They seem to be very trying to him, and his temper just isn’t able to remain level. Hopefully he toughs it out, and trusts his coaching staff enough to develops the tools to handle this situation in the future.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad we can’t take both those college guys. I would enjoy seeing a Wojciechowski-Kvasnicka battery.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Wojciechowski-Kvasnicka

Wasn’t that the name of the Treaty between the Bolsheviks and the Central Powers that facilitated Russia’s exit from World War I?

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by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I love this blog.

Out of the realistic picks the Phillies could make, I like Kvasnicka the best. He’s had some helium the past few weeks and may not even make it to #27, but I’d be thrilled if he gets there and the Phils pop him.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, one point I should make: “realistic” is the key word above. There are a number of guys I really like that are extreme longshots to make it to #27 (I’m thinking of Alex Wimmers, Christian Colon, Nick Castellanos, and Brandon Workman), and some other guys that may be there but don’t fit the Phillies’ draft mold (Jedd Gyorko).

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wojciechowski-Kvasnicka battery is what you need to run your oversized Russian made analog electronics like this guitar distortion pedal

by j reed on Jun 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sovtek made some awesome guitar equipment.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a Big Muff…that never comes out right.

by j reed on Jun 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The crazy thing is that in the region around Poznan, Wojciechowski is the third most common surname.

Stanislaw Wojciechowski was a President of Poland in the interwar period. He was ousted in a coup d’etat; his predecessor had been assassinated, and his successor was interned in Romania and forced to resign by (Vichy) France.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Austin Wilson

I suspect if they take Wilson at #27, it means Rube knows something we don’t vis-a-vis signability.

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by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

K-Law’s latest latest has the phils on Biddle because Yelich wants 2 mil and the phils won’t pay it

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for this. Yelich was supposed to have a pretty strong Miami commitment, and if that’s the number he’s floating, I’d hope the Phils steer well clear. A prep first baseman with a questionable power ceiling isn’t worth anywhere near that much.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Every time I’ve heard Bryce Harper’s name the last 2 weeks I keep thinking of Alexander Daigle. No strong reason, just a concern that what sunk Daigle was that he always seemed more interested in being Alexander Daigle (dater of models, party boy) than he did being an NHL player. Some of the character questions I’ve heard people with about Harper (combined with his ridiculous proclivity towards King Diamond level designs with his eye black) make me wonder if he may fall into the same trap (or begin singing about ghosts in alternating growls and high falsetto).

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

If eye-black bothers you, check out Jesse Biddle’s picture in today’s Inquirer.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be a good advertisement for the decal eye black. Although the DeBroff/Pahk study found the decals don’t actually reduce glare, while the traditional eye black does.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That looks more like it was done a little heavy and got smeared. Harper wears more black makeup that Gene Simmons.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Behold the ridiculous artistry:

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

For comparison sake King Diamond:

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

King Diamond is, by far, the most inspired comparison I’ve seen. If Harper has his singing chops, I fear the Phillies are going to be having a lot of problems out-rocking the Nats in a few years.

by Trev223 on Jun 7, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Norway has tons of black metal dork wads


Yes mother don’t worry he has a real job… he teaches social studies to 5th graders during the week.

by j reed on Jun 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the woman’s face on the left.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I love the NatGeo style composition. “The guitarist from Immortal…reflects.”

by Trev223 on Jun 7, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a fucking douchebag.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the Ultimate Warrior more than anything.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another name that’s popped up today is prep righthander Stetson Allie from Ohio. Big righthander with a big fastball, but he’s floated above slot demands on account of having a UNC scholarship. I figures he either wouldn’t be there, or would be outside of the Phils’ price range, but Law had the Phillies linked to him earlier today, which would be a good thing.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d like to see AJ Cole go to the Phillies, since he’s a local boy for me.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 7, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way, from what I’ve been hearing, the top local prospects are:

AJ Cole, RHP, Oviedo: 6’5", 190, with good athleticism and a high-90s fastball, clocked at up to 98 mph
Mason Williams, OF/RHP, West Orange: 6’0", 160. #87 HS prospect per Baseball America, but has signed with South Carolina
Justin Nicolino, LHP, University High: #69 HS prospect, signed with University of Virginia
Tyler Holt, OF, Florida State University: 6’0", 190. High contact, high speed, low power
Mike McGee, OF, Florida State University: 6’0", 188. More power but less contact ability than Holt. Was drafted by the Cubs in 2007 but turned them down.
Chris Duffy, OF, University of Central Florida: batted .447/.539/.850 in Conference USA this year.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jun 7, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Looking at the sorry state of the Catching prospects, I would love if Yasmani Grandal slipped into our laps (Jim Callis actually has him sliding that far and the Phillies passing, for whatever that’s worth) or even Mike Kvasnicka. Albeit with the usual disclaimers about staying at Catcher or stagnating as hitters.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I LOVE Grandal, but I think Callis is crazy for thinking he’s going to fall that far. The latest word has the Indians trying to “outbid” the Royals and take him at 5, and I’m hard-pressed to see him slipping out of the top ten, let alone all the way to 27.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I heard that the Phillies are interested in C Justin O’Connor or James Paxton. Which players are they more likely to get and why?

Klaw

O’Conner ain’t getting close to that pick and I have not heard them on Paxton, nor is that normally their kind of guy. They take high-ceiling high school players and have had some pretty notable successes with that approach, like Cosart, Brown, and maybe now Singleton

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex (UT)
What round do you see SS Marcus Littlewood going?

Klaw
If he doesn’t go sandwich tonight, he may fall much farther and end up at USD. I see some Christian Colon similarities – both shortstops with + hands who were assumed (when Colon was out of HS that is) to be headed off short because they couldn’t run. Three years later, Colon’s a first-rounder viewed as a mortal lock to stay at the position. I wouldn’t make that mistake twice.

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

From Andy Seiler's chat...
[Comment From Dannyray64:] Top 5 players the Phils could take at their pick

I’ll say Austin Wilson, followed by a bunch of athletes. Fill in the blank. Hearing A.J. Vanegas, Vettleson.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheesh. Another outfielder? Really Marti? Really Ruben?

I have no reason to like or dislike Wilson. Who knows, maybe he’ll turn out to be a superstar. And I know, you’re supposed to always take the best player available. But still, how many outfielders are we going to draft? If they go through with this pick, that is.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My real problem with Wilson isn’t that he’s an outfielder, but that he apparently has real problems with pitch recognition. The Phillies seem to gravitate toward that type, which is fine in later rounds, but more frustrating in the early going — like, say, when you pass up Christian Friedrich to take Anthony Hewitt.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

jeez how about a 3rd basemen or someone who may have the skills to become one.

by j reed on Jun 7, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don’t want to get too position-specific, because that’s what causes you to reach for lesser talent. But at the very least, take a pitcher!

(Also, what PF said.)

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex (UT)
What round do you see SS Marcus Littlewood going?

Klaw
If he doesn’t go sandwich tonight, he may fall much farther and end up at USD. I see some Christian Colon similarities – both shortstops with + hands who were assumed (when Colon was out of HS that is) to be headed off short because they couldn’t run. Three years later, Colon’s a first-rounder viewed as a mortal lock to stay at the position. I wouldn’t make that mistake twice.

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright an infielder

by j reed on Jun 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much time do you get on the clock? Trying to figure out when I need to get to a TV by.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and it’s 5 minutes per selection.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should we talk about the draft here on in the game thread?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m probably going to do it here to keep everything centralized.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harold Reynolds and Peter Gammons. Who are these other two dopes?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno. They really need to have Keith Law or Jim Callis or Kevin Goldstein in studio. You know, someone who’s an expert on prospects.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure ESPN would allow Law or Callis on a rival network

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

PF, you should have volunteered.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re seriously going to move this kid to the outfield? Why?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Because they’re the Nationals?

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Jun 7, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get it. Even if you have to move him eventually, he’s got all the tools to stick as a catcher, so why move him down the defensive spectrum? And don’t give me that BS about having Derek Norris in the system already, Harold Reynolds (or whoever said it).

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because no one believes he can last at catcher though someone suggested move him to 3rd and then to right field – he’s a couple years away

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

One, I don’t know that that’s accurate. Two, why not at least take a shot at teaching him first, instead of giving up and lowering his value preemptively?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cause they’re the nationals and they can screws up anything?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does that mean though, “last at catcher”? The only way he won’t be able to handle it is if he grows out of the position, but he’s got the athleticism, the actions and the arm to stay back there. And even if you subscribe to the “his bat will get him to the majors quickly” explanation… I dunno, I’d let him spend an extra year in the minors if it’s the difference between a right fielder and a catcher.

(Not picking on you, jem, just that line of argument.)

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may have said it wrong, but the implication was that he’s not good enough to ‘stay’ at catcher (maybe i should have said stay) in the majors?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everything I’ve read indicates that he’s more than capable of sticking there, at least over the next couple of years. I think they’re probably thinking along the lines of what Cormican said, and… I dunno, to each their own, but that’s not how I’d handle things if I were them.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ‘reliable’ source regardng moving him off catcher is Buster Olney

One argument that might work is that moving him to 3rd (or RF) gets hi mto the majors 6-12 months sooner?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but 3rd is the one position the Nats have covered already.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even at 3b, Harper wouldn’t get to the majors for more than two years. Who knows what happens between now and then? Maybe Zimmerman hurts his shoulder and has to move to 1B, and then you’re sorry you never tried Harper at the tougher position. He can always move from 3b to RF.

Keith Law

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it’s the get him to the majors quickly line. Not that the Nats have a shot in hell at the World Series in the next 2 years anyway. I think his bat would play well at 3rd, but he’d be blocked there. I got a kick out of his Dad saying SS. A guy getting 30-40 home runs at SS would be pretty valuable.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Harold Reynolds the smartest person on this panel? What’s going on here?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Woodlands was Kyle Drabek’s high school, wasn’t it?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yessir.

Taillon’s been called the best high school pitching prospect since Josh Beckett. Kid can throw gas.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s that saying about pitching prospects?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 clips are poor to base things on, but his mechanics look quite sloppy in the clips they keep replaying.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s got tme to clean it up and that video made it obvious that he can be pretty clean at times. His glove arm is all over the map at times, though.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t consistency of motion/release sort of important to a pitcher?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, otherwise you lose location. At worse you add strain to your elbow, shoulder, etc. But I’ll leave that to J Reed to expand on.

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Machado here, then it sounds like Colon at #4.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

What about the Grandal contract they supposedly negotiated?

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

One rumor flying around was that the Indians were trying to “outbid” them for Grandal, then it came out that there was never an agreement in the first place. I wonder if the Royals got fed up with the whole thing and just opted for another up-the-middle talent.

I’d expect the Indians to go Grandal or Sale here, but then things get really interesting.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

dawhipsaw (DC): Austin Wilson… is he like Anthony Hewitt as far as a toolshed or is he a real baseball player?

Kevin Goldstein: More polished than Hewitt . . . but not a ton more.

In case you wondered why I’m wary of Austin Wilson…

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

John Hart compares Christian Colon to Placido Polanco.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He has a legume shapped head?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pomeranz apparently goes to John Edwards’ hairstylist.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys! Fuck the Phillies(’ offense). Go draft! Woooo.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

They’re going to trade the pick to dump elton’s salary

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what chad ford says – h’e sgolden – like eskin

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stefanski may be stupid, but he isn’t that stupid. Nobody is that stupid (except, I guess, for Chad Ford).

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chad Ford believes that it would be harder to trade Elton Brand than Gilbert Arenas
Arenas makes more money per year – i believe has a contract just as long if not longer and of course – you know – aside from the gun thing – hasn’t played in the 2 seasons before this one much due to injury

But yeah – Brand harder to trade than arenas

Chad Ford does his job from hawaii…he hardly ever leaves the island

ESPN has crappy coverage in many sports but their HOCKEY coverage is better than their NBA writers

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And stupid or not (he is) if comcast gives him a cost cutting mandate (which i could see) stefanski might have no choice.

I don’t believe they’re trading it but they’d be idiotic not to see what they can get

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a golden opportunity to finally get a franchise changing player in the draft for the first time in more than a decade a people are entertaining the idea of trading the pick away. Even for media types that’s stupid.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s an argument to be made that goes like this

Minnesota COVETS turner (claim they would draft him #1 if they won the lottery) – and NJ wants to move up to #2…blackmail one of them into believing the other is going to make a jump – get them to over pay and then draft favors. (Minnesota wouldn’t draft favors I don’t think)

It would be a much better argument if Cousins hadn’t turned out to be truly such a putz

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome welcome. We all act like experts here despite seeing no more than 1 YouTube clip of each of these players, so feel free to act accordingly.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Law’s Mock has scouting video of many players I don’t know if you have access to espn insider but

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/insider/news/story?id=5259729

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

no more than 1 YouTube clip the segment they show on MLB TV right after they announce the pick

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

in my case, I mean

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, I hear you. I actually haven’t watched much video, but did read most of what Andy Seiler wrote on these guys.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m serious, this beats the living shit out of the insufferable shit that’s been happening in Citizen’s Bank Park.

Who was our first pick, btw?

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a hour or two

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m multitasking here, got MLB.tv in one window and the draft in the other. Helps soften the blow of the offense sucking.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Hamels is off to a good start at least.

(Over/under on the meltdown?)

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

WILL NOT CROSS PICKET LINE!

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, so I see I won’t be sleeping well tonight…

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

labor union rat?

nice touch.

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by alcatraz0109 on Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teamsters to be exact.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah.

Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H

by alcatraz0109 on Jun 7, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Jimmy Hoffa buried in that rat?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know where Jimmy Hoffa is, but I’ll never tell. Omerta.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what

you’re an italian african american jew?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s supposed to be wait, not what

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only in my daydreams.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not the same but the irish have quite a mob – so i guess i’m good

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do the jews, actually. Heavy into the ecstasy trade.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus you know, running hollywood and taking over the world

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And murdering Palestinian people.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zionists are not those who i’m fond of

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Oh, I always wanted to be a Teamster. So lazy and surly… mind if I relax next to you?”

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loux is pronounced with an “ow” sound?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mets on the board! They take Matt Harvey, RHP.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

High risk, high reward. I kind of wanted them to take Cox, since I thought he was wildly overrated, but I don’t mind them taking Harvey.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamels just gave up his first baserunner of the game by walking the pitcher. Will the meltdown follow?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s an AUDIENCE for this nonsense?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ed Wade loves him some toolsy athletes

“They don’t care what position he plays”

Did Peter Gammons go to MLB because he didn’t have to pay attention to the new school or because of travel?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that much. His top picks were about evenly split between high school and college when he was here.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

College: 1998 (Burrell), 2000 (Utley), 2003 (Moss), 2005 (Costanzo)

High School: 1999 (Myers), 2001 (Floyd), 2002 (Hamels), 2004 (Golson)

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I had forgotten Tim Moss ever existed.

by phatj on Jun 7, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delino DeShields at 8? That’s a bit high, isn’t it?

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening to the MLB comments trying to make it ‘positive’ it ssure sounded like it

I wonder if the MLB network commentators will say anything negative about any ppicks

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so, at least. They were linked to Michael Choice and Josh Sale in that spot, but must’ve figured DeShields wouldn’t get to their next pick at 19.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Signability sounded like afactor

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

@jimcallisBA: Hou had to take DeShields there. Tor, TexN TB all were on him before Astros pick again at 19 #mlbdraft

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delino DeShields Jr. to the Stros. At least that’s one toolsy outfielder off the board. Just Wilson, Brown, and Golden to go to save the Phillies from themselves…

Callis from BA saying Whitson at 9 and Choice at 10.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and rumor had the Reds taking Chance Ruffin, the Texas closer, at 12. And the White Sox are probably looking at Deck McGuire, a RHP from Georgia Tech, at 13. So the Blue Jays are the next big question mark here.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Deck McGuire sounds like a fictional character.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

So does Chance Ruffin

by ajay on Jun 7, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are some serious all-name team candidates in this draft.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Hart notes that Choice has a “good tool package”.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Some really great names in this years draft, huh?

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Grandal’s a great pick for the Reds. That franchise has really turned around in the past couple of years.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm, Hamels off to a very good start. FM, if this keeps up, you might need to think about breaking your boycott even if the terms haven’t been satisfied, if you know what I’m getting at.

by taco pal on Jun 7, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I see what you are driving at.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this vein, apparently the Marlins’ announcers were trying like hell to jinx Halladay’s PG the other weekend. Like, to a completely obnoxious level. They really are the worst broadcast crew in the majors.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worse than the Braves?

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, not even close in my opinion.

Actually, the Nats are probably the worst, with Marlins and White Sox an honorable mention.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to that old jerry fart on the padres radio broadcast a ‘phillie scout’ told him the best club he’d seen all season was the braves…

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Phuture Phillies said, big domino here: Milwaukee could potentially grab Jesse Biddle.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d be willing to bet my entire life savings as well as my sister and my dog that the Phillies won’t score tonight.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I sir

will not take that bet.

by ajay on Jun 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

With your sister or with your dog?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin O’Conner is falling and could be a possibility for the Phils. He was linked to the Mets at 7 and was never supposed to get this far. Still thinking Biddle’s the most likely possibility though.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would he fall?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just cause the draft is so screwy.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean – if he’s falling due to a signability issue it becomes unlikely the phils take him – no?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not signability, at least I don’t think.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would kill to see that (figuratively)

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of good options for the Phillies at 27…

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Which would be the worst possible of the picks…that’s the one I’m betting on

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie Golden. Also, I’m really not in love with the Wilson idea.

Nick Castellanos would be fantastic value here. And I wouldn’t mind Stetson Allie or some of the other prep pitchers (Cole, Jenkins, even Biddle).

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

So this is where the party was at? Is there still some appetizers out?

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jun 7, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Guys, I got it. The Phillies need to draft a LHP who throws mid 80s slop. Apparently guys like that are un-fucking-hittable.

by zfg on Jun 7, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Clearly the wave of the future.

by Aphilfan on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most importantly, don’t get your hopes up, folks. This is the Phillies, after all.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

ON THE CLOCK!

WOOOOOOOOOOO!

(Yeah I know less than nothing about these guys beyond what you’ve talked about here. Just a conditioned response.)

by Aphilfan on Jun 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

At least they can’t trade down.

by Uiruru on Jun 7, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goldstein’s saying Aaron Sanchez. Meh.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s always struck me as kind of a dick on chopped

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You laugh, but maybe he can hit with RISP. HEY-O!

by zfg on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So who’d they pick?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyler Green sighting!

by Aphilfan on Jun 7, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

pitcher.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Biddle it is!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesse Biddle is the pick

Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H

by alcatraz0109 on Jun 7, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh well. Castellanos was a dream scenario I guess.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Biddle’s not a bad pick, though

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree, pretty much

by Cormican on Jun 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a great pick, but…

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jun 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s middle of the road. I’d have preferred Castellanos, maybe O’Conner, and I see the argument for Stetson Allie too. But the Phils did well the last time they scouted a local prep pitcher (Knapp), so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt here.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was the BPA and why didn’t the phillies take him?

by jemagee on Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Castellanos, at least that’s what the consensus would say.

As Phuture Phillies said, the organization will say they took BPA, but finances were definitely involved. Castellanos wasn’t going to sign for slot at 27, nor was Allie, and Ranaudo was definitely not. Biddle will, which frees up the budget to add a couple of overslot guys later in the draft (in the Brody Colvin/Jarred Cosart/Julian Sampson/Jiwan James/Dom Brown mold).

by PhillyFriar on Jun 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is pretty wild. I have mutual friends with Jesse Biddle on facebook. I’m so special!!

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

he's one of my HS friends

good kid, good head on his shoulders, it’s nuts that he’s now playing for my favorite team after we played some hs ball together. He comes from a great family too, incredible parents and siblings. Pretty hyped up for him.

by Alon on Jun 8, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.facebook.com/#!/jbiddle1

C’MON EVERYONE! INVADE OUR FIRST ROUND PICK’S PRIVACY WITH ME.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 7, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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