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Our New Infield: Why So Glum?

The news seems bad right now.  If you can name all 13 hitters on the Phillies active roster you're ahead of most Phillies fans.  And obviously, with Carlos Ruiz, Chase Utley, and Placido Polanco all on the DL, the infield is hurting the most.

Or is it?  Without explaining first, wouldn't you be happy with someone hitting .391 with a .417 OBP and .783 SLG?  That's a Bondsian 1.199 OPS.  Giving away a bit more, would you be happy with a trio of players hitting 3 home runs and 10 RBI over the course of two games?

Of course you would.  And that's exactly what the Phillies' catcher, second baseman, and third baseman have done over the past two games, the two games in which Ruiz, Utley, and Polanco have all been out.

So why so glum?  This is completely sustaniable, right?

PhillyFriar FTW:

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via i266.photobucket.com


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by WholeCamels on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe if we keep repeating it, eventually it will become true…

by Baseball Nerd on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Cormican on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice photo choice, though.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we start calling Dobbs, Valdez and Sardinha “Cerberus”?

by PhillyFriar on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

What about “The Human Centipede”?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we could call them Iron Pig, Back Up, and Iron Pig, but I guess that will not be the case for a while— anybody heard timetables for Ruiz and or Polanco to return?

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh, yeah

Anyway, “Cerberus” it is.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish those three were anywhere near as frightening to opposing pitchers as that picture suggests!

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for hope abandonment.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is that really the fiercest picture of Castro that exists?

by Cormican on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

This better appear on the jumbotron next time one of them bats at home.

by Baseball Nerd on Jul 1, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

12 minutes spent in MS Paint > studying for the bar

by PhillyFriar on Jul 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

will Mrs. Utley care for its puppies?

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 1, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not— she can stick to caring for Chase and less frightening creatures.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with the bar— what states are you taking?

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Massachusetts. The calendar flipping to July today has served as something of a wake up call though.

by PhillyFriar on Jul 1, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that feeling— My 25th birthday (June 30th) was the last day with any fun component prior to taking the PA and NJ bar and moving (all in 1 week)

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec’d for Philadelphia-area baby name contest winner.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sardiana has been pretty amazing

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jul 1, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He is not as good as Sillinois.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 1, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Except for calling a shitty game ysesterday.

by j reed on Jul 1, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah....

On ESPN it said Chase Utley will be out for 5-6 weeks due to his thumb injury……

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jul 1, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonight's Fun Lineup.... Brought to You by the House of Backup

Victorino CF
Dobbs 3B
Rollins SS
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Ibanez LF
Valdez 2B
Schneider C
Hamels P

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not that good but still not the end of the world

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, no tony hawk in a deserted house in the woods

by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the big thing that we may see in the next few weeks as relates to Dobbs is how much of his earlier form came from playing every day— he looked a little bit better yesterday against Cincinnati (and yes I understand the concept of small sample size)… but maybe he is one of those players who is never going to be great coming off of the bench, but if he plays regularly can be decent. As for Valdez, may he continue to improve… I think this is going to be (with the exception of Schneider, who hopefully will soon be replaced by Ruiz) our lineup for now, so might as well embrace it.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just remember aprons saying that he had his best year when he was getting regular playing time. I was trying to paint this with the optimism brush and say that maybe both Dobbs and Valdez with the opportunity to contribute every day in the lineup may show more than they have in the past when they filled in every once in a while. I know it is doubtful, and that the season looks pretty bleak with the injury news today, but I am trying to hold some hope that this will be an opportunity for the bench to shine.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why bat Rollins 3rd?

Seems odd. What do you guys think about:
Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Werth RF
Howard 1B
Ibanez LF
Dobbs 3B
Valdez 2B
Schnedier C
Hamels P

by Phrozen on Jul 1, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously that should be Schneider.

Unless we’ve signed another backup catcher.

by Phrozen on Jul 1, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that they are trying to put Rollins in a position where he will not have as many base stealing opportunities in an effort to protect him from himself. I also think that they may be trying to leave Werth down in the roster to give him an opportunity to hit some runs home. Also, they may be trying for left/right balance— with Victorino and Rollins both switch hitters, it prevents them from bringing in a LOOGY to get a lot more than one out by splitting the lefties as much as possible.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather Rollins leading off and trying to steal than bat third and try to hit homeruns.

Werth seems to me to be the best all around hitter now that those other fellows aren’t around.

Oh well—I hope this is a short debate anyhow.

by Phrozen on Jul 1, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-4 weeks before Polanco is back in, 8 weeks is what they are saying for Utley… so it is going to be a while (if at all this season) before the team is back to looking like itself.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay …we get to see Rollins try to rake the high cheese.

by j reed on Jul 1, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s the whole “If you spread out the crappy hitters, maybe they’re less likely to be exposed” mindset. Whether that’s right or not, I have no idea, but batting Dobbs-through-pitcher 6 to 9 will result in a ton of 1-2-3 innings at the bottom of the lineup.

by PhillyFriar on Jul 1, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either that or 3-run homeruns. ;)

That makes sense, I suppose. I’d rather have the good hitters clustered together so we don’t get a bunch of 1-out GIDPs with the bases loaded, though.

by Phrozen on Jul 1, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya. I’m honestly not sure if there’s a right answer or not, and I wouldn’t even know how to begin crunching the numbers. I know that lineup protection is mostly a myth, but I do wonder if Dobbs benefits to some extent by hitting 2nd, even if it’s only a mental thing.

by PhillyFriar on Jul 1, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cholly is suspended tonight btw

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jul 1, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup… Is there an over under for how many times he is going to get ejected and or suspended this year?

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contact with an ump is usually a one game suspension isn’t it?

by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The brim of his cap made contact with the umpire. He has also been fined an undisclosed amount.

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Course, more reasons to hate bucknor – kind of a wuss thing -

by jemagee on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bucknor can suck it

The whole time Cholly was arguing with him, Bucknor stood there with a shit-faced cowardly grin, waiting to pull some lame-ass suspension crap.

As soon as Cholly walked off, his cap BARELY grazed Bucknor’s head, and you could see Bucknor point to his head and mouth-off, undoubtedly telling Cholly that He Was Gonna Get ’Em.

Why doesn’t MLB get rid of clown like him and Country Joe?

by Romero on Jul 1, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because they make it so that good umpiring is not taken for granted

by dannijd on Jul 1, 2010 6:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Surprisingly, a writer from the Hardball Times did a study a few years ago and concluded from the data that West was the best ball/strike umpire in the game. As in numero uno.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-zone-of-their-own/

Obviously, he could still be a bad ump for other reasons, but it’s a data point.

by taco pal on Jul 1, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really interesting article, TP.

I guess there is a reason why West is still around.

by Romero on Jul 2, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dumbest trade proposal of the day:

Dominic Brown, Raul Ibanez and Chooch for Wieters and Wigginton from the Orioles…. saw this on Yahoo

by Ant on Jul 1, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Wieters a lot, but that would scream panic trade. As long as the posters name wasn’t Ruben or SmugGM or similar I will just write it off to an uniformed fan.

by Cormican on Jul 2, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

For one more night

Last night, Cerberus was effective and helpful yet again… a home run, an RBI, a 4-11 with a sacrifice bunt showing at the dish… and the inevitable two fielding errors (leading my little brother to joke that Exxon was doing his best imitation of Utley… errors and all). At least at the plate they outperformed the regulars— I understand that baseball is a game of statistics, numbers that I am only somewhat good with, coming from a football background where sometimes heart, desire, and other things can out weigh the simple numbers, but I can not help but wonder, if some of what we are seeing from the regulars is not the emotional hangover from being punched in the gut one time too many by the injury bug— I mean, if we are wondering whether this team can ever catch a break, I am sure that they are asking themselves the same thing. For Cerberus, however, the sadness that some of them may feel at losing strong members of the team gets tempered by the fact that they are getting the chance to be in the big show— while you never want to see your chance come this way, the fact is that (at least until someone is brought in via trade/free agency), they are getting their chance to show both the Phillies and other teams that they have something to offer— that maybe they should not spend the rest of their careers on the bench/in AAA.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

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