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Break Dancing: Phillies 1, Reds 0

On a day when, yet again, the Phillies lineup bore no resemblance other than what was on the uniforms to the league-devouring behemoth of 2007-2009, the team took a second straight 1-0 win from the NL Central leading Cincinnati Reds to finish out a four-game sweep. The heroes were Cole Hamels and the three relievers who followed him to get the final four outs, with a bit less drama than usual; this was the first game of the series not to last into extra innings. 

That lineup managed just four hits and a run off former Phils farmhand Matt Maloney. As was the case Saturday night, a Carlos Ruiz double and a two-out Jimmy Rollins RBI single produced the run, albeit in the third inning rather than the 11th. The Phils threatened again in the fourth, as Jayson Werth led off with a deep drive to center that an imbecilic fan reached over the wall to catch; given the ricochet the ball would have taken off the wall and where outfielder Drew Stubbs was positioned, a triple or even inside-the-park home run was likely. But Werth anchored at second, and after hitting Ryan Howard with a pitch, Maloney escaped further trouble.

The lone run would have to hold up, and thanks to Hamels, it did. The lefty didn't fill up the strikeout column Sunday--in part because of the coin-flip strike zone artistically created by home plate ump Todd Tichenor--but mixed his pitches well and kept his composure throughout. He did perhaps his best work escaping a bases-loaded, no out jam in the fourth, after a seeming strikeout of Scott Rolen was deemed a walk. Hamels induced Jonny Gomes to ground to third, where Cody Ransom threw home for a force-out, and then caught a soft line drive off the bat of Jay Bruce which he flipped to Jimmy Rollins at second to double off Joey Votto. It was one of three double plays Hamels got on a day when he worked about a half-dozen full counts and saw the Reds foul off about two dozen offerings. 

He finally gave way after 112 pitches with two outs in the eighth, when Votto doubled off the left-field wall on a full-count pitch. Charlie Manuel called on Jose Contreras to face Rolen, who again drew a walk after two beautiful pitches were inexplicably called balls. But the big Cuban got Gomes to ground softly to Wilson Valdez at second to end the threat. J.C. Romero started the ninth by striking out Bruce, then Brad Lidge came on to fan Drew Stubbs on a filthy slider before getting pinch-hitter Miguel Cairo to pop out to end it. 

Now, let's not get too giddy here: excepting the 9th and 10th innings of Friday's comeback thriller, the Phillies scored a total of seven runs in 39 innings against the Reds, including two in their last 19 in games started by rookie left-handers with profiles somewhat lower than, say, Stephen Strasburg's. Still, a sweep is a sweep, and one of the four-game variety against a deep and talented Reds team provides a huge lift for the spirits as well as in the standings as the Phillies head into the all-star break.   

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And what do you mean, “let’s not get too giddy here?”

We swept a 1st place team—the top scoring team in the NL was held to 10 runs in 42 innings.

by Phrozen on Jul 11, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Run differential was only +5 though. We were lucky to win all four. Probably only deserved to win three. Still, it was a good series for us.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point

I’ll take em however I can get em.

by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 11, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

At what point would you not take em however you could get em?

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If one has a bet on the game based on how many runs the phillies win by?

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cliches are fun.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo. The odds of beating a team that good by such small margins aren’t real high. The Phils “earned” each of those wins, no doubt, but until they produce some consistent offense, there won’t be many comfortable wins.

by dajafi on Jul 11, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank says he knows a lady who can give you 3 back to back extra innings, walk-off wins.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I gave that broad a black eye, she was giving me too much lip, BADA BING!”

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fangraph

Now added. Sorry about that—was racing against a store that closed at 5.

by dajafi on Jul 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs next after the break. Hamels will have three days rest as of the first game of the series on Thursday, while Halladay will probably pitch one inning on Tuesday (which would, I think, be his throw day anyway).

Off the top of my head, I think I would go with:

Thu – Moyer
Fri – Halladay
Sat – Hamels
Sun/Mon – Kendrick/Blanton in any order

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Sunday – Kendrick Monday have a public hangin of blanton at secound base after you reactavate Happ and tell the rest of the pitchers this is what happens when you shit the bed on a phillz staff.

All kiding asside I think Kendrick will give you a better start then Blanton.

by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 11, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blanton’s xFIP this year is lower than Kendrick’s.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t bother.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

In any event, David Murphy already got the scoop on this. It’s going to be:

Thu – Moyer
Fri – Blanton
Sat – Hamels
Sun – Halladay

Then, presumably, Kendrick on Monday in St. Louis (on ESPN).

Doesn’t look like the Cubs have set their rotation yet.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh, I like that. I’m looking at tickets for Thu and Sun. Not sure if I want to go on Sat yet.

Cubs website has:

Thur – Dempster
Fri – Lilly
Sat – Wells
Sun – Gorzelanny

but who knows if that will stay the same.

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by HappyHuman on Jul 11, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if that holds up, we’ll miss Silva. I guess that’s a good thing, although I was kind of curious to see him pitch, or at least to see the alien that’s taken control of his body.

I guess it’s smart of Piniella to throw the two lefties at us.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hallady pitching in ASG

Interesting that it will push him back to Sunday, because that would mean Halladay would miss pitching in a four-game series vs. the Cardinals and Hamels would get the day game on Thursday vs. the Cardinals. With the way Halladay is it seems hard to believe he would require normal rest after pitching a couple of innings on Tuesday. Also, this rotation is not listed on the MLB website, although the Cubs pitchers do show up. Makes you wonder if that’s some misinformation that Charlie’s putting out there.

by phillyinportland on Jul 11, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't make any sense.

I much prefer the rotation you listed above.

Move Doc to Saturday if he really needs the rest or something (as in, ASG goes to 86 innings), but I just don’t get him on Sunday.

by Phrozen on Jul 11, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, not worth it.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Dead Ball Days – back from the dead – Ty Cobb zombie eat your brains

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And pistol-whip your African-American zombies.

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by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Futures Game

Starting now. Dom Brown batting cleanup for USA. Anybody watching?

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Tom Gordon’s son Dee batting second for USA, drew a walk in his first AB. I remember when he was drafted a few years ago, but he wasn’t a particularly high pick. He must really be exceeding expectations to have gotten to this point so quick.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown up 1 out, men on second and third

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Legs out an 0-1 pitch he hit to deep short, RBI

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw yeah. Brown coming up with runners on second and third.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Brown usually play right field in Lehigh Valley?

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, didn’t know and the way the announcers said right field today I thought maybe it wasn’t his normal position.

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s all ours unless RAJ does develops early onset Alzheimer’s disease

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

It is really weird to see a Phillie at the very top of the top prospects lists. But in a good way, of course.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So can Montero be converted to an outfielder?

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Ellisbury’s body double at the dish

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Castro head Brown picked off but he hesitated

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

And then he almost gets nailed rounding second on a single to shallow left

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He must have been watching Jayson Spicoli’s baserunning this weekend.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Base running is not his strength, I guess.

He needs to correct that before he gets here, or the fans will turn on him quick. Young players who come to Philadelphia with high expectations are rarely treated well.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown pulled out for a pinch runner after advancing to third on a passed ball. Uh Oh

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? You’ve got to be kidding me.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tweaked Right Hammy for Brown

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMFG. Well, that’s wonderful.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the report they’re giving during the game, he claims he’s ok to play but they want a trainer to look at him.

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Figgy brought the Mets germs with him

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tune in here – the guy will try to talk to him between innings.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

brown says his leg hurt getting out of box on IF hit; recall he dove into 2 bases later. says it’s not serious

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it keeps the Phillies from calling him up, can it be a bad thing?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Jul 11, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dimensions of Angel Stadium’s current configuration seem awfully hitter-friendly.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Would they have changed the dimensions for the game?

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually from that aerial shot it looked big

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, no point in following the game anymore.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Hoping to hear something about Brown at this point

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Brown get hurt in this game?

That’s what I’m hearing. Tweaked a hammy or something?

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Brown said it wasn’t serious so take it for what it’s worth.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taco Pal

So the only Phillies prospects in the Top 50 are Brown and Singleton?

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Stroll up thru the thread and you’ll see a link he posted for me about the prospect rankings

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh right

My bad. Sorry, logged back in and missed that whole discussion.

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cosart is on the list too

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes

3 in the Top 50, not too shabby.

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

Considering all the talent we have lost in recent years.

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

There are two teams with five players on the list:

Braves (6, 20, HM, HM, HM)
Royals (12, 13, 18, HM, HM)

The numbers are their rankings – “HM” stands for honorable mention, or 26-50.

After that, we’re tied four other teams that have three guys on the list:

Phillies (1, HM, HM)
Twins (9, 22, HM)
Rockies (21, HM, HM)
Blue Jays (23, HM, HM)
Dodgers (HM, HM, HM)

But two of the Blue Jays’ guys were guys we drafted. So if we had kept them, we would be tied with the Braves and Royals.

Six teams have two guys on the list. Thirteen teams have one. Four teams have zero.

Amusingly, one of the teams with zero is the Mets. Sucks to be them.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

kelly dugan

I was wondering what was up with Kelly Dugan, our top pick last year, because I hadn’t seen his name anywhere for a while, and I found this article:

STILL OUT: Outfielder Kelly Dugan, the Phillies’ second-round draft choice in 2009, was officially placed on the 7-day disabled list on Friday. Dugan had an infection surgically removed from an undisclosed part of his body a couple weeks ago and is currently recovering at his home in California.

Weird.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

 gential wartesque sounding

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t want to say it.

But seriously, do people get surgery for that?

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s from spending so much time around Rob Schneider.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well surgery in so far as getting local anesthesia and having them cut off.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

OW. Ok, no more talking about this.

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I deleted Tree Man, I literally gagged.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw the original post. I think this is a more aesthetically pleasing version of a treeman...

granted, his name is Wood Man. ahhhh Mega Man 2 memories.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jul 11, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ba dadadadadada daaahhhhhh… da da, da da, da daaaaaa, da DA!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Jul 11, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry about that. I didn’t think people would gag. I forgot that not everyone could spend all day in the medical oddity museum.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’ve been the the Mutter Museum, but that’s one thing. Coming on here and going scrollscrollscrollscrollscrollscroll OH GOOD CHRIST! is a separate matter.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the scrolling. Yeah that would be intense if you never had seen him before. People have told me about that place but haven’t been since I moved back to the area. Is it worth the visit or is like a hand full of weirdness followed by 90 rooms of mircoscopes and surgical tools throught the decades?

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

throughout the decades

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it’s almost all weirdness. If deformed fetuses in jars are what you crave, the I highly recommend it.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have seen him before and it still freaks the shit out of me. And I once sat in on a gross anatomy session at Drexel’s med school and had no problem detaching a dead human’s leg.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. No offense to j reed (I too love the Mutter Museum as much as anyone) it’s just that something about that guy is totally horrifying and nauseating at the same time.

Plus, when I look at him, I immediately think: “holy freaking god, what if that was me?” And then I think about how it would force me to lead a completely cloistered existence and yet how hard it would be to post on TGP with trees for hands and so on.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah talk about having dibs on being the most uniquely screwed over human.

by j reed on Jul 12, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, they do get surgery for that.

My friend did. Yeah, my friend…

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

alot people wearing beer goggles get lucky and are just lucky
some people wearing beer goggles get lucky and aren’t so lucky
and some people are named Mike Pelfrey

by j reed on Jul 12, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i am not too familiar with the phillies prospects, does anyone know much about their first pick this year? i konw he was a local kid, but how legit of a prospect is he?

by Aaron King on Jul 11, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

way too early to tell

by taco pal on Jul 11, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am just kinda broadening my baseball knowledge beyond just the game, and i was wondering if it was commonplace to draft a player in the first round that it doesnt seem like anyone really has a strong opinoin on

by Aaron King on Jul 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The consensus on him after the draft seemed to be that he wasn’t the most talented player available but that he wasn’t really a stretch at the position the Phillies were picking. The local connection doesn’t hurt, I suppose.

by phatj on Jul 11, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesse Biddle

It’s really hard to tell because he pitched out of a cold-weather prep school with fairly low levels of competition. But his size at his age (6’5", 230 lbs.), raw stuff, and makeup scream “projectability.”

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh 6’5, 230 lbs. – that’s very awesome

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Cosart really climbed the ranks fast.

by j reed on Jul 11, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

For all the Halladay love, Hamels is capable of doing this sort of thing for more years than Roy. I often post about this, but Hamels is really, really young still, especially compared to the rest of the team. The only two active players younger than Hamels?:

-Herndon
-Kendrick

Cole Hamels is 26, folks. He could be pitching like this, god willing and the creeks don’t rise, for the next 10 – 15 years.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Jul 11, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope

I see him in red pinstripes for a long time.

by ajay on Jul 11, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice game

Thoroughly enjoyed it, even if I did feel like I was going to melt. Guys behind us were Red Sox fans doing the ballpark tour who said CBP was leaps and bounds better than CitiField.

When Charlie took Romero out in the 9th, fans were none too pleased.

Phils got a fair amount of good luck in this series, but today they earned the win. Umps called the weirdest strikezone and 2 fan interferences? Really? What is wrong with people? We couldn’t get any replays at the park but that second one really looked like it was going out from our angle.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 11, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

It was the right call

But if the fan didn’t interfere, the ball would ricochet and Werth would have at least a triple or maybe even an inside the parker like Utley once did.

by nik.k on Jul 12, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Werth would have at least a triple or maybe even an inside the parker”

Doubt it. Werth would have been confused after rounding second and would have had to ask for directions at third.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsTmIzjkw

Remember the Phitans

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