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Some Phillies Links for You, July 16, 2010: Jamie Wears It, Farm Struggles, Brett the Met?

Philadelphia Phillies relief pitcher Jose Contreras thinking about the end of "Marley & Me." (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

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Philadelphia Phillies relief pitcher Jose Contreras thinking about the end of "Marley & Me." (AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh)

Phillies Notebook: Utley sheds cast, says doctors see progress

After Utley's injury, the Phillies went 9-8 to close out the first half, hitting .234 with a .285 on-base percentage in the process.

Well they had a winning record didn't they? Guys?

Cubs send message in rout of Phillies

Since Lou Piniella joined the team in 2007, the Cubs have posted a 121-95 record after the All-Star break. They're now 1-0.

At this pace they're going to go undefeated in the second half!!

Cubs expose Phillies' big need

Any chance the Phillies had of coming back was squashed in the seventh inning when the Cubs scored five runs off Jose Contreras. He has an 8.56 ERA over his last 18 appearances after posting an ERA of 0.56 in his first 18 appearances.

Wow.

Mets considering Astros' Brett Myers?
Brett Myers would look awfully good in this rotation right now, huh?  At least we could tut-tut at the "morally bankrupt" Mets for employing a wife beater, right?

Minor Leagues: Walkoff HR sinks IronPigs
Even Mathieson is struggling now...

Ryne Sandberg recalls time with 89ers
Keep this in mind: Cubs pennants since the Sandberg trade: 0. Phillies pennants: 4.

Phils start second half with a thud

"I made bad pitches down and I made bad pitches up. I paid for it. I didn't execute," Moyer said. "We jumped out and scored two runs. For me the ultimate thing is to out and back it up. I wasn't able to do that. I deserve everything I got. But I'll be back."

For some reason, it's satisfying to see quotes like this, rather than the Adam Eaton "I made good pitches, they just got lucky!" crap.

Paul Hagen: Phillies in AL East? Twenty years ago, it could have happened | Philadelphia Daily News | 07/16/2010

Inside the executive offices at Veterans Stadium, there was some support for the idea. The proponents pointed out that it would mean multiple annual visits from the Yankees and Red Sox, teams certain to draw well.

Glad to see nothing's changed...

PhoulBallz.com: JC Ramirez Shines in Reading Loss
BUT WAIT ALL WE GOT FROM SEATTLE FOR CLIFF LEE WAS SLOP WTF?!!?!?!!?!

I want to go to the zoo with Roy Halladay: An Open Letter to Charlie Manuel
Our Old Friends at Zoo With Roy plead for a rearranged starting rotation, and a Roy Halladay vs. Stephen Strasburg matchup likely to cause much tent-pitching.

Star-divide

Giants 2, Mets 0: Lincecum Outlasts Dickey - Amazin' Avenue
Young Tim Lincecum does the Lord's work.

Braves Beat Brewers 2-1 Behind Chipper, Prado and Jurrjens - Talking Chop
Of course.

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Ahhhh Brett. While not a single day goes by without someone (ahem, Cohen) bringing up the Cliff Lee trade, no one ever talks about Brett or the fact that we could have probably signed him to a reasonable make good contract last year, opening up a host of options for the rotation. It seems like 10 years ago that he and Cole were the proverbial “1” and “1a” rotation aces on the team.

by Boundforbeach on Jul 16, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Brett Myers represents one of the few good catches available

Yup. I think there is zero chance of Ruben getting Brett after their “divorce”. It’s too bad, because if you look at the $$$, the trading partners, and simply the Astros W-L and Brett’s pitching records, in addition to the fact that Brett could either be a RP or an SP, it would be a no-brainer for the Phils to be in on Myers – if he wasn’t Myers. Now he could torment us on the Mets.

I did a little snooping around last night, and really, there are not many relief options where teams would be willing to give up on someone and where their teams are out of it. The classic relievers on teams having down years are themselves having down years – Hoffman and Qualls for example. There are the usual suspects: Ohman and Farnsworth. Maybe Lopez from the Pirates. A couple of guys from Toronto. After than, the pickings seem to be slim.

Yes I am old. I remember the Phils good old days and their bad old days. Course, the good old days I'm thinking of were in 2009.

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by Bud in TN on Jul 16, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chad Qualls...

…would actually be an awesome buy low candidate depending on Arizona’s asking price. The conventional numbers make 2010 look like a train wreck for the erstwhile D’backs closer: 1-4, 4 blown saves in 16 opportunities, a staggering 8.60 ERA and 2.11 WHIP.

But dig deeper, and his peripherals tell a vastly different story: 3.52 SIERA, 9.2 K/9, 3.6 BB/9, 55.1% GB. It’s the luck statistics that are insanely out of whack, enough so that 2010 Qualls makes 2009 Cole Hamels look like an anthropomorphic rabbit foot by comparison: .468 BABIP, 50.5% LOB, 16.0% HR/FB.

I repeat: .468 BABIP, 50.5% LOB, 16.0% HR/FB. I mean, wow.

He’s not going to be a Type A or B free agent, so I’d be shocked if the D’backs weren’t looking to move him. I can’t imagine the asking price would be all that prohibitive.

by PhillyFriar on Jul 16, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him, but his nose really makes it hard to focus on his performance

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 16, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit, I’m surprised. I thought the NL Central would mash him. Granted, the season’s not over, and the weather’s hot, so give it time. I thought Myers was stupid for going to that bandbox rather than a cavern like Citi Field, where he’d do well.

Ed Wade needs to restock the cupboard and his main chit is the wildly expensive Oswalt. If it’s prospects, he needs AAA guys. If it’s not, he needs a starter. Just watch this be R.A. Dickey and a crappy AA reliever.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

also, all ye cupcake haterz out there, apparently you can regain your form after an oblique strain, even if you are a FB pitcher.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t hate Cupcakes… I just wish his return to form had not taken a U-turn after the first Reds game.

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love cupcakes, not as much as tastykakes, and this obsession with way too much frosting on cupcakes has to stop

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmm tastycakes…

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t hate Cupcakes… I just wish his return to form had not taken a U-turn after the first Reds game.

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t hate cupcakes, but I prefer mandelbrodt.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed— his fractal is cool looking!

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t know what you are talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrodt

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds good… But for desert, I would still prefer cupcakes!

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You’ve clearly never had my grandmother’s mandelbrodt.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does she make baklava? I heard it’s a serious pain in the ass to make but when you eat some made by someone who know what they’re doing, it’s edible joy.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

She doesn’t. Baklava is typically a middle eastern dessert while my grandmother specializes in Ashkenazi Jewish cuisine.

I do know where to get some excellent baklava though.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I got it from an Egyptian friend who said it’s a middle easten dish but is found in alot of jewish markets.
So where can i get some good baklava?

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s common among sephardi and mizrahi jews as well as Muslims.

Rami’s Falafel truck at 40th and Locust has excellent homemade baklava.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know it was common among Mizrahi, but I’ve encountered it among Sephardi.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 16, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool beans. Much appreciated.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought baklava was a Greek dish.

by phatj on Jul 16, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It certainly is. It began in the Ottoman empire, so it appears all over the mediterranean region and across the middle east—in the cuisines of hundreds (probably thousands) of cultural and religious groups.

"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel

by FuquaManuel on Jul 16, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Property Settlement Agreement Fail

“McCourts rankle judge; could force sale”

“The parties are unintentionally pushing the court toward an interesting position — selling the asset which is being fought over,” Gordon said in a court hearing.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5382706

by Boundforbeach on Jul 16, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

this is legal awesomesauce.

Gives new irony to: “I’d never sell the Dodgers for love or money!”

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always figured a sale was inevitable from the moment Frank thought forcing her out would look good to the courts

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I care because they’re the Dodgers, but on a theoretical basis, it has to be confusing to be in the midst of a pennant race, nearing the trade deadline, and have no clear idea of what you can do financially.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, there’s a very clear idea of what they can do financially.

Nothing

by SportingFanaticism on Jul 16, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the DOO DOO pitching slump is coming. I hope Howard hasn’t used his HR’s up we need some more in this series.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jul 16, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope you are wrong— another month of lumpishness is the last thing this team can afford.

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Slumpishness

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think lumpishness is an even better description.

by heyelander on Jul 16, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so too

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jul 16, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

For anyone who loves absurdity and the minor leagues as much as I do, the Dugout has a new strip up about the Lakewood BlueClaws. Of special note: Jon Singleton appearance.

by Trev223 on Jul 16, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I noticed he was born in Lakewood (!), CA.

by schmenkman on Jul 16, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa. Perhaps Singleton draws some of his power from coincidence?

by Trev223 on Jul 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, apparently my proposed walk-off celebration choreography Lusitania’d the Avant Garde Huey Lewis day.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

  

So it’s obvious that Jamie Moyer graduated from Mother Superior’s Brass Knuckles Pitching Academy and not the Francoeur & Cox School of Spin, but even Jamie needs a trip to the zoo once in awhile.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I appreciate Jamie’s honesty… I just hope that items accompanied by improvement in his next appearance (something Yankees-esque) would be appreciated…

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 11:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

reed, you’re one of the few commenters here for whom I can always tell who the comment’s author is without ever having to look at your name first. I mean that in a good way, of course.

by taco pal on Jul 16, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well thank you kindly. The curse of working out of my home is I can play more.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Error in the Phillies Notebook

Utley has only missed 13 games with this injury— the Phillies are 7-7 in those games, and were 7-6 before the break.

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

so the Phillies are at sixes and sevens. Great.

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s only a bad thing in the UK though, so we’re good. Whew!

by schmenkman on Jul 16, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

On yer bikes, Contreras and Baez!

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess Big Truck is kinda an open ended nickname

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Truck sounds like this:

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

by Wet Luzinski on Jul 16, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ick… I am trying to remind myself that Contreras is not always bad— he did pitch 2 scoreless innings v. The Reds in the not tok distant past.

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keep in mind that he’s 38 in Cuban years.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing when you think about how much rain they get over there. The hardest thing to prevent is the body from rusting out. One of the reason why Arizona is muscle car heavan other than the flat roads along across vast stretches no man’s land where oddly enough you can get a degree in biker chemistry. Oh yeah factoid of the day – Havana street mechanics found that shampoo is a decent substitute for brake fluid.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we never salt the roads in a subtropical climate. The only car I’ve ever had get rusted out was one I parked on the beach at low tide, that got submerged at high tide.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 16, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure but it’d be unusual to see alot of these cars in an urban population unless there was a classic car convention. The difference is they are plenty of guys there who still know how to use an English Wheel to form panels. Here knocking tin like that is seriously custom work and way too expensive. Also how old was your car? The newer the car, the less steel and better paint systems. Lacquer paint was the industry standard for a long time. The acrylic lacquers are durable but lack the UV protection that the newer finishing systems have. In other words the sunlight breaks down the paint and the body will eventually rust out from moisture exposure. Hence areas of low rainfall and low humidity are the ideal places for those old muscle cars.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an old Datsun 210. The thing would have rusted if you looked at it cross-eyed.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 16, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gon’ make it to a Benz out of that Datsun.

by taco pal on Jul 16, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ghetto kompressor

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well someone was withholding a cruical piece of evidence.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sure, but that’s the only car I’ve had rust. The other various cars (a couple Nissans, a Hyundai Elantra, and a Subaru Impreza) have all survived without rust, with two of them being ten years old when they left the family (the Elantra was totaled at age six, and the Subaru’s only three years old).

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 16, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Muscle cars and classics cars. Let’s say 30 – 40 yrs minimum. Were taking about sunlight breaking down acyrlic lacquer and I’m not sure when the UV protectant became an industry standard but the new finishing systems last way longer than 6 or 10 years unless you live in Buffalo and use the vechile as a snow plow. Note the exception to that being Datsuns. (the newer Nissans I wouldn’t worry about ) It was thought that to keep the production cost effective and remain within the price range of their target market, they cut corners with the car’s body instead of compromising engine performance. Of the Japanese cars Datsun always had higher marks for performance so much so that the Z cars, along with Mazada’s classic RX-7 have been the car of choice for the grass roots racing community for a long time. The Z car’s dominance is legendary in the SCCA (Sports Car Club of America). You got a shit load of car for your buck but you had to be wary of the rust problem and take steps against it, something most typical car owner wouldn’t do but didn’t pose a problem for those involved in the grass racing community. I always saw the Z cars of that era as the the Japanese MG but way more maintenance free.

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

In the second to last sentence that needs to be the ‘’grass roots racing community"’

The grass racing community drives around in the General Lee.

by j reed on Jul 17, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that sort of like being 38 in Dominican years?

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds like a truck made in Philly.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose Contreras

“Reverting to the mean with a vengeance.”

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So he is going to look worse than Baez now?

Halladay better really like completing games (and the rest of the rotation had better learn to like it)

by dannijd on Jul 16, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That Ramirez statline really is encouraging.

by taco pal on Jul 16, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Are they really calling Jason Heyward the J-Hey kid? That’s just…yuck.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 16, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a Braves fan and I don’t like it either. I prefer JHey, and that’s what most of us call him.

"Tony Gwynn made sacrifices. Cal Ripken made sacrifices. I'm not sure Derek Jeter made sacrifices given the ungodly deep pockets the Yankees have." - Chipper Jones

by MBL1 on Jul 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mean, isn’t there enough pressure on this kid already? Plus, Willie Mays is a legend. It just seems wrong.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 16, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do i get this image of some ex-boy band hackass, back-up singer turned junky but born again performing at some Compound Camp for Christ and dedicating a song to the man above – JHey

by j reed on Jul 16, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I generally loathe all First Initial – First Syllable nicknames (A-Rod, J-Roll, etc.)

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 16, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A-Rod is a little homoerotic for my taste (NTTAWWT), but J-Roll is OK (though I pretty much just call him Jimmy).

by phatj on Jul 16, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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