Some Phillies Links for You, July 2, 2010: Slippin' and a Slidin', Life Swap

Word of caution to Josh Byrnes: did you see the pile of junk Philly pawned off as top talent on Cleveland last year?

Aside from Byrnes getting canned last night (obviously after this went to press), Silva misses the point: NO ONE claimed that the Phillies sent "top talent" to Cleveland last year for Cliff Lee.

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I'm a little shocked that he go through this article without mentioning Derek Jeter at least once.

PhillyInc: Why you can't get a Tastykake at Citizens Bank Park
Side note: Why are we stuck with SuperPretzel as the exclusive soft pretzel provider at CBP? Nasty.

Baseball Prospectus | Ahead in the Count: Why Baseball Needs a Draft Lottery
Or, why the Washington Nationals will own our souls in a few years. From Our Old Friend Matt Swartz. Subscription req'd.

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The desperation will be palpable. This is going great!

Looks like karma is catching up with Lenny Dykstra | Philly2Philly.com
The chickens are coming home to roost for Mets' great Lenny Dykstra.

Lehigh Valley IronPigs frustrated over non-balk call; no movement for Paul Hoover

Cody Ransom had a one-out single and advanced to third base when Philadelphia Phillies top prospect Domonic Brown had a basehit after a 10-pitch at bat.

Can he come up and coach the big leaguers?

Nationals 2, Mets 1: Another Winnable Game Slips Away - Amazin' Avenue
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Domonic Brown is not acting like he wants to stay at AAA very long. This concerns me. To some extent, I wish he would get a minor injury, or mono, or something just so his ridiculous numbers don’t encourage the Phillies to do something stupid, like call him up.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Jul 2, 2010 8:13 AM EDT reply actions

Small sample size. But my goodness, his OPS growth is ridiculous:
Rk: .632
A-: .756
A: .798
A+: .922
AA: .920
AAA: 1.181

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 2, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions

If he comes up to MLB, then his OPS is sure to exceed that of even Nelson Figueroa!

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by RememberthePhitans on Jul 2, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Minor league to major league equivalencies for what Dom's done at various levels

Using the Minor League Equivalency Calculator, here’s what Dom’s projected MLB stats are from his various levels:

A (Lakewood): .201/.259/.270
A+ (Clearwater): .244/.312/.394
AA (Reading): .252/.310/.434
AAA (Lehigh): .380/.412/.611

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 2, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions

AAA (Lehigh): .380/.412/.611

That’s damn near Bondsian.

by Cormican on Jul 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

It is small sample size, though. He’s only had 30 PAs at AAA.

I also misspelled his name while pulling his stats at Baseball Reference. I’m now waiting for the first article to make the same mistake I made, and write an article about Demonic Brown.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Considering how the injury bug is biting everyone

I would be careful what you wish for.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

“The chickens are coming home to roost for Mets’ great Lenny Dykstra.” [emphasis added]

Well-played, sir.

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by RememberthePhitans on Jul 2, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions

I’ll probably have more to say about this soon. But real briefly, of course the Phils should consider trading Werth, and of course they shouldn’t do it yet. If they’re eight or ten games out on July 20, though, and can get a talented player or two who can help them win in 2011 and 2012, it would make a lot of sense. That Brown is ready now is a nice bonus, but it’s almost beside the larger point: you do what helps you win now if that’s realistic, and later if it’s not.

by dajafi on Jul 2, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Yeah and I buy that as a huge fan of Jayson Werth.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Well said. I certainly hope the Phillies are taking this approach, and not the OMG DOM BROWN IS READY AND UTLEY’S HURT WE’RE SCREWED TRADE WERTH approach. There are teams out there who would be willing to take him for the half season without the guarantee of signing him long term, but it doesn’t mean you trade him just to trade him, and certainly not if we’re still in contention.

by Baseball Nerd on Jul 2, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions

That is what I think. I also think from a morale standpoint, the team has to be very careful about trading Werth if they are still anywhere close to contending, as the team could very well take that as a message that the white flag has been waved, and lose whatever fight they still have left.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions

we have no idea what kind of “message” the team would take from a trade like that.

In a broad sense, the Phillies biggest goal going forward next year and beyond is getting younger, which is another reason why I really dislike the Howard contract extension.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions

1) so what? They’re paid to perform, they’re all under contract for years, and they’re exemplary professionals. I don’t care if it gives them a sad, and neither should Amaro.

2) The fact that they can plug in Brown softens the blow anyway.

by dajafi on Jul 2, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

yup

You can second guess all day long how personnel moves will affect the players’ feeeeeelings, but in the end the GM’s job is to put the best players in the clubhouse now and in the future.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions

The other problem is it’s hard to find a lot of contending teams with a glaring need that Jayson Werth would address. Padres?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Braves?

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

I hear the Braves have some young prospect. Guy named Heyward. I think he’s down in low-A ball. Maybe we could offer them Werth for this guy.

by maxr on Jul 2, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I was thinking of the fact that they could slide Werth into one of the other two positions— from what I have heard, they are looking for a solid right handed bat to go in their outfield.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

The Padres could be an interesting choice. They do have a lot of outfielders on the active roster, but none of them are exactly prolific hitters, so they might be looking for some help there.

Depending on how Manny’s hamstring goes, the Dodgers might be in the market. He’s not DL bound now, but those sorts of injuries can flare up as the season progresses, and if he manages to hurt it again prior to the deadline, they might be looking.

Otherwise, I can’t think of obvious teams that could be interested. Any teams with aging veterans who may be interested in signing Werth long term? Maybe the Angels?

by Baseball Nerd on Jul 2, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions

We send Werth to the M’s for Lee. Everyone is equally miserable.

by Cormican on Jul 2, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

And it is almost the perfect one for one— a rent-a-pitcher for a rent-a-fielder.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions

A strange thought after reading the Utley Article

If you took the Disabled Lists from Boston and Philadelphia (cumulative year to date) you could form a pretty darn good baseball team.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:07 AM EDT reply actions

Proof that Yahoo FanHouse is Slightly Insane

In an article written this morning they still have the Phillies picked to win the NL East— complete insanity between the length of time Utley and Polanco are lost for, the injury killer cicada kicking them every time they start to stir, and the way that they have played the last three games (which I think may just be a sign that they are reeling under the surface from the blows of so many injuries— I have long thought of Chase and J-Roll as Yin and Yang for this team— complete opposites that balance not only each other, but this team— giving it both a swaggering brashness and a quiet intensity that make the team great— They have played 16 games together this season… In those games, the team has went 12-3 (including J-Roll’s partial game v. Boston and Utley’s 8 innings against Cincinnati).

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions

it's not THAT far-fetched

calllllmmmmmm dowwwwwnnnnn

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions

I am calm— even the bp cuff this morning said so!

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Wow.

by FuquaManuel on Jul 2, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions

If only Utley and Rollins had been healthy, the Phillies would be about 62-15 right now. But now that Utley’s hurt, we’ll be lucky if they go, oh, 2-83 for the rest of the year.

by taco pal on Jul 2, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions

I am not saying that— I am saying that I do not see the Phillies as a playoff contender at this point.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions

Well that’s really going out on a limb.

by FuquaManuel on Jul 2, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Have you checked a calendar recently?

It’s 2 July! There are, counting today, 84 games remaining!

If this was happening in September, then, yeah, you might have a point. But right now, you’re nuts.

by Phrozen on Jul 2, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Even looking at their lineup last night, there are a few “holes.” Most teams have studs and then role players at the back of their lineup. So for 2 months the Phils won’t have an all-star lineup every game. So what? They were in a terrible slump and started to come out of it before these injuries. They still need to pitch, play d, and get numbers from their big guys with small guys contributing (not the other way around). And Howard needs Werth’s eyeballs.

Btw, where the f is Happ?

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jul 2, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions

Cant’ get minor league hitters out yet

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jul 2, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

I think they are back to Slump-it-tude.I hope they can get the script appropriately flipped (while big days from Cerberus are fun— there is something about seeing a guy hit his first career homer that is kind of magical), I wish that the intact members of our offense would look like it.

As for Happ, his rehab is not going as well as anyone could have hoped. He has one more rehab start over the weekend in AAA, after which the team has to either try to get an extension to his rehab time, leave him on the DL with no more rehab play, bring him up to the majors, or option him to AAA.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Fuck the wins I would like Utley to have speedy recovery for him and the Phils for my B-Day and my 1 going on 2 year old would like that too. So much for the 4th of July weekend sweep.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jul 2, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions

I said that on my birthday (6-30) as well— that I would trade the win I had initially asked for, for Utley’s return… did not work.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I hope yours goes better— particularly considering that you are getting neither the sweep nor the four day weekend without Victorino grounding to second.

by dannijd on Jul 2, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions