Some Phillies Links For You, July 28, 2010: Strasburg Railroaded, Shane Pain, New Trade Focus
Victorino injured this time as homers save Phillies against D'Backs
"I don’t think it’s that bad I hope it’s not that bad, but I won’t know until I take an MRI," Victorino said. "It’s something there and obliques are things a lot of people say not to play through. I don’t want to make it worse, make it a month-long thing when I can make it three days. Hopefully I’ll feel better when I roll out of bed."
Shane Victorino, M.D.
Strasburg's inflamed shoulder part of sudden rash of MLB injuries
Someday, we'll tell our kids about this bright, fleeting star named Strasburg...
Cliff Lee is a video game pitcher
• Cliff Lee is no longer an American League pitcher, he's a video game. The ridiculous lefty had to settle for a no-decision against Oakland on Tuesday despite another outstanding outing (9 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 13 K). For the year, Lee has 114 strikeouts against seven walks.
The Phillies traded the better pitcher...
John Smallwood: Who are these Phillies? Right now they are winners
Until they're not, I suppose...
Paul Hagen: Will Phillies make a pitch for starter?
The only problem with that picture is that the Royals surely would demand a shopping spree in the Phillies farm system in return. Not to mention that Greinke's earned run average is 4.01 after being banged around by the Twins on Monday night.
And here I thought he was good.
Phillies Notebook: Disabled list not likely for Phillies' Rollins
Well that's good.
Moyer getting second opinion
This sounds pretty bad for Jamie Moyer.
Team turns focus to Carmona
YUCK, NO! DO NOT WANT!
Report: MLB to begin 2011 season on Friday, not Sunday
I always thought that the issue in 2009 was the World Baseball Classic pushing everything back by a week.
R-Phils fall to Richmond after winning suspended game
Flying Squirrels win, 6-2. Who else hates all the cute minor league team names?
Durham Bulls rally to defeat Lehigh Valley IronPigs 5-3 in International League baseball
But Vance Worley goes six shutout innings, striking out seven. TRADE BAIT.
Washington Nationals Beat Atlanta Braves, 3-0. - Federal Baseball
Who needs Stephen Strasburg anyway?
Mets 8, Cardinals 2: Can Jerry Manuel Stay Suspended? - Amazin' Avenue
Jeff Francoeur hit a home run off Adam Wainwright. No, I'm not kidding.
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The stats aren’t nearly as upsetting as watching baseball tonight highlights of him pitching yesterday. Now that’s depressing.
And speaking of ex-phillie pitchers, Brett Myers threw a complete game yesterday. zOMG
by Boundforbeach on Jul 28, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
3.10 era for the year…had 12 K’s last night against 1 BB and gave up 1 ER.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Yowza. I guess with Myers it stings a little less, since his dominance was certainly less predictable (I’d assume) than Lee’s. Still, he’d have been cheap as hell — what could have been.
Eh.. K’s aren’t everything..
Eh.. K’s aren’t everything..http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR200309060.shtml
Eh.. K’s aren’t everything..http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR200309060.shtmlI think he was quoted that year about the K being something to avoid.
Eh.. K’s aren’t everything..http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR200309060.shtmlI think he was quoted that year about the K being something to avoid.Sides, Halladay’s last bases-empty walk was May 6. I think Lee would have trouble matching that..
For what it’s worth, Halladay’s SIERA is a little higher than Lee’s. They are ranked #4 and #5 among MLB qualifiers.
That actually does lessen the sting a bit, thanks. Lee projects such a charismatic personality, and that, coupled with both his skill and the whole “One that got away…” allure, sometimes makes it easy to forget how good Halladay has been this year.
Plus the whole grass is always greener philadelphia average sports fan mentality
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought this was worth linking...
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/66312
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Forget Cliff Lee
How could we let go of Feliz? I mean, he hits almost as well as Juan Castro!
by philsandthrills on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
If we didn’t let go of players, the Astros would never have enough to fill up their rosters.
by WanderingMoses on Jul 28, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m starting to agree with you. I was pissed when he was initially traded, but RAJ’s ‘restock the farm’ rationale and Lee’s purported ‘unsignability’ was understandable back then. But all of this talk of trading more prospects and signing big $$ starters is very disconcerting. But I’ll withhold judgment until Saturday.
by Boundforbeach on Jul 28, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
If we were seriously willing to include Happ, I can’t see us not being able to top the package the Angels gave up for Haren without giving up our top A ball prospects.
The fact that we didnt top the Haren trade leads me to believe that it is all just “talk”.
by Clyde Simmons on Jul 28, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Can somebody do an alternate universe post/analysis (take some liberties) where:
1. We kept Lee
and possibly,
2. Didn’t tender Blanton
3. Moyer’s last deal was 1 year
4. Lidge didn’t start sucking
I’m sure just number 1 would be a pretty fun look at the world
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I told you the Grienke talk would start appearing in newspaper articles. Hagen is not a great writer (The Houston’s?), but I agreed with his article, if not his reasoning.
I would love Grienke if the Royals would be reasonable, but they would probably want Dom Brown.
by Clyde Simmons on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
According to Rosenthal, they want two top-tier pitching prospects in return for Greinke.
Looking at why Greinke might be doing more poorly this year, I’m noticing two things on the PitchFX. The first is that he’s throwing a lot of 2-seam fastballs, which is odd. Until this year, he was a 4-seam/slider/cutter/change-up pitcher. Now he’s a 4-seam/2-seam/slider/change-up/cutter pitcher. It’s just as hot as his 4-seamer, but has more motion. The second is that his velocities are off. His fastballs are down from 94 to 93, his slider’s up from 86 to 87, and his change-up’s up from 83 to 84, although his cutter’s down from 75 to 74. For his main pitches, his velocity gap’s gone from 8 mph to 6 mph, which makes the adjustment a bit easier for pitchers. It’s not something that you’d really notice just from watching, but that is probably a factor in his lesser effectiveness this year (although he’s also been unlucky, based on his ERA/FIP/xFIP numbers).
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Frankly, Dom Brown for a 26 year old Ace, Cy Young winner would be pretty reasonable on the Royals part.
I dunno, a cost controlled Dom Brown or a 13 mil a year pitcher who seems less effective since being Cy Young.
Think I would stick with the #1 prospect in baseball who costs less than a million the next 3 years.
by Clyde Simmons on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, not only due to the fact that Dom is comming so cheep it would give the Phillz some Money to move around this year in FA
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but I would hardly call Grienke ineffective. Still, if I was the Royals’ fan I would be ticked if they traded away Grienke for anything less than Brown, Cosart and Colvin. And frankly, I’d want Schwimmer, Mathieson or similar thrown in for good measure.
and as a Phillies fan I would be ticked if they gave away Brown and/or both Colvin and Cosart
by Clyde Simmons on Jul 28, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does he seem less effective? I"m curios
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
BLS weights in on the great Domonic Brown Debate
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
Ibanez is really hitting well right now, though. The weak link is Shane.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like Carmona as a pitcher, but I am excited at the prospect of rooting for someone named Fausto.
Chip Caray would orgasm and then his head would explode.
by WanderingMoses on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Which head?
"F#$% [player]!" --FuquaManuel
by FuquaManuel on Jul 28, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All of them. But I am not sure in which order.
by WanderingMoses on Jul 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Can they air that kind of thing on basic cable?
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Howard, Dr. Victorino, Dr. Howard
Maybe Shane can pull a Nate “Tiny” Archibald and go to medical school after his playing days are over. Here’s a quick sketch of what he might look like.

If we trade for a reliever Im gonna be so pissed.
by philiafan14364 on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
?? Ummm. A stud bullpen addition (if there are any) would not be unwelcome. You might want to withhold judgment until you see who we get (if anybody) and who we had to give up.
by Boundforbeach on Jul 28, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We have one thats currently on the 40 man roster, that wouldnt cost us a thing. Theres no reason to say we need a reliever when were not even using the best bullpen we have.
by philiafan14364 on Jul 28, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
To further solidify the belief that the Arizona Diamondbacks may not be done trading, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick reports via Twitter that GM Jerry DiPoto is discussing everyone except outfielders Justin Upton and Chris Young, right-hander Ian Kennedy and catcher Miguel Montero.
That would mean the club’s entire infield is in play, including third baseman Mark Reynolds, shortstop Stephen Drew, second baseman Kelly Johnson and first baseman Adam LaRoche.
Crasnick also mentioned that Johnson might be an ideal fit in St. Louis, but that his home-road splits suggest to clubs that perhaps Johnson’s season hasn’t been as good as the numbers say.
Also on the block are right-handers Edwin Jackson, Aaron Heilman and Chad Qualls.
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
Joakim Soria has a No trade clause with the yankees on it – weird
by SportingFanaticism on Jul 28, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
i dont know why everyone still bitches about lee being gone. yeah hes gone oh well cant do nothing about it. i would still rather have halladay at top of the order. he would also have 4 or 5 more wins if the phillies actually gave him run support.
by phillyeaglesfan on Jul 28, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions

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