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Nachesnacht: Phillies 10, Dodgers 9

Was it a sense of history?
Something ancient in the air, smacking of appreciation, of work making freedom,
of immigrant sons and daughters, the practical lives, jokes, tears, struggle,
and naches. In this new land, one day a schlub, the next, ein Held.

Round about the eighth inning, we were led to believe
that somewhere in this dry hot summer,
as we starved, away from our promised land,
a crazy old man with some wacky ideas might lead us back to milk and honey.

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Addendum: h/t WholeCamels:

But when they saw the army coming to meet them, they said unto Judah:
'What? shall we be able, being a small company, to fight against so
great and strong a multitude? ...' And Judah said: 'It is an easy
thing for many to be shut up in the hands of a few, and there is no
difference in the sight of Heaven to save by many or by few; for
victory in battle standeth not in the multitude of an host, but
strength is from Heaven. They come unto us in fullness of insolence
and lawlessness, to destroy us and our wives and our children, for to
spoil us; but we fight for our lives and our laws. And He Himself will
discomfort them before our face; but as for you, be yet not afraid of
them."
(The First Book of Maccabees)


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via www.fangraphs.com

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By the way..extra EXTRA kudos for the passage from Maccabees. I think I will use this in class this coming school year.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 12, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Best Fangraph ever?

Perfect Quote there WholeCamels, especially since it was Jewish appreciation night

Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Aug 12, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

IDK— the one from the 10 inning Friday night comeback v. the Reds was pretty sweet too.

by dannijd on Aug 13, 2010 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It’s TOUCHING the 100% mark for the Dodgers. It’s pretty much there. Just awesome.

by SJPhillyVT on Aug 13, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swartz was saying on Twitter that the Phillies lowest point was a 0.4% probability of winning. That’s just staggering.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 13, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup— probably the second biggest comeback of the year from a Fangraphs perspective (.3% in the top of the 9th of the game I mentioned).

by dannijd on Aug 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We are all now Takin’ the Stairs.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was the first poem I posted on this site!

by Wet Luzinski on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you see what it got us! Two weeks later the World Series trophy comes to Philly. Any other literary breakthroughs await?

by phillyinportland on Aug 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should think about retiring his number.

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

hellz no.

You have to be retired to have a retired number, and for now, I’d like him to continue pitching.

Is he just a flame thrower with minimal movement? I wonder why the Phils tee off on him so well. He was also getting squeezed a bit.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has long stretches where he is a pretty dominant pitcher. And by “pretty” I mean “really”. I don’t know what the heck is going on with him right now though. The velocity on his fastball is down a bit, I think.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs has his average velos as:
2006 (95.0), 2007 (95.2), 2008 (96.3), 2009 (97.8), 2010 (95.4)

So his FB is a shade slower than it was the last two years, but it’s still in the normal range for him. He was effective in 2006 and 2007, as a set-up man.

It looks like his slider is the pitch that’s really off this year. He is basically a two-pitch pitcher, as he is no longer throwing a change (he used to throw it 2-3% of the time before this year).

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

That slider that Ruiz hammered last night was truly a hanging turd. Awful, awful pitch, and Ruiz got it.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I do wonder what happened to him that he lost more than 2 mph on his fastball between this year and last, though.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question. Although from the trends, it seems like the weirder thing was why it got so fast last year.

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

     Going into the series with the Dodgers I was questioning Charlie not skipping Kendrick’s spot in the rotation and try to give the big 3 as many starts as possible. I felt better about Blanton taking the mound to start the game than I have in a in a long time. Post ASB he had been pitching fantastic, but he got into trouble in the first and, for some reason the BABIP ferries haven’t been very nice to him. The bullpen was atrocious and took us out of the game. Luckily the Dodgers pen was worse. I view this win as one that shouldn’t be on the board, and at the end of the year when you’re scoreboard watching trying to find a win wherever you can this one has the feel of one that will put you over the top.
     It sucks to see Raul’s hitting streak end but, it had to end eventually, besides tomorrow is a good day to start a new one. I didn’t catch Madson pitching tonight (Not sure if he did) I know he has been lights out to the point where 11 of his last 12 outings were scoreless, if he can continue to put up numbers like that he’s going to be a huge 8th inning guy. Lidge has come on as of late and if he can continue to get his stuff working this team is going to be really tough to beat.
     Can anyone remember the lineup that the Phillies started the first game of the season? In just a few short weeks after all the DL trips that this team has gone through (I don’t need to explain it to the readers of TGP) there is a chance that they all get back on the field together. What’s even better is it could happen the last month of the season and be intact for the postseason. During the middle of the year this team that was so difficult to watch, that couldn’t get 3 runs on the board, from Cole Hamels’s win at home against Boston to Cole Hamels’s win in Boston they couldn’t get anything done. Yet here comes September and here come the Phillies.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Beautiful. I’m positively ungabluzum right now.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That. Game. Was. Amazing

"My truck done shocked the fire outta me. My arm don't hurt no more" - Roy Oswalt

by Zach_B on Aug 13, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Speechless!! Is chooch ever so clutch!!

by djax on Aug 13, 2010 1:39 AM EDT reply actions  

While I too admit that “clutch” is a false belief, in small sample sizes, some guys just seem to come through when it counts.

Carlos Ruiz this year
0.816 OPS Overall
0.882 OPS w/ RISP, 2 outs.
With a 3-2 count, 1.011 OPS
“Close and Late” 0.936 OPS
With score tied: 1.020 OPS
In the 9th inning: 1.138 OPS
Extra Innings: 3.000 OPS (!) (only 5 PAs here…)

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder where that puts Chooch in the standings for most clutch hitter in baseball- I know earlier this year Baseball Today said that Andre Ethier was the best in the league when it counted, but with those numbers, Chooch has to be near the top of the league.

by dannijd on Aug 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ethier so far this year:
0.844 OPS Overall
0.685 OPS w/RISP, 2 outs
With a 3-2 count, 0.734 OPS
“Close and Late” 0.531 OPS
With score tied: 0.696 OPS
In the 9th inning: 0.835 OPS
Extra Innings: 0.425 OPS

Those look more like an argument for anti-clutch to me, but maybe he was doing better when Baseball Today provided that line.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Aug 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was— it was early in the season (prior to his hand injury, and they even admitted that small sample size could be playing a role.

by dannijd on Aug 13, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

small sample size pretty much always plays a role in being “clutch”.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it plays a role both ways. There’s also selection bias at work – we remember the bottom of the ninth double that drives in a game-winning run, but forget the two other games where the same guy pops out to end the game. Unusual events tend to be memorable, while the things we expect slip from memory without leaving a mark.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Aug 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

true…but I think we all have a general idea of who has come through in the clutch THIS YEAR and who hasn’t. Nobody is saying that Ruiz never makes an out in the 9th inning, but he’s had a better year than Werth in the tight spots.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

check this out

Ok, so this is a link to Tim Brown’s baseball rankings, which he posted about 7 hours ago. Notice the records he has for the Phillies and Dodgers. Absolutely priceless. Wrote his column too soon i suppose. Pretty great stuff right there. What a game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AlqehU29ej3eBpJ97bXJleQ5nYcB?slug=ti-powerrankings081210

by PhilsForever on Aug 13, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

AHHH,never mind, he changed it now…bummer

by PhilsForever on Aug 13, 2010 2:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta screencap that

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 13, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ctrl and print screen together….which copies the screen. Then you use MS Paint and paste and edit to what you want to see.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 13, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you have to host the picture then put it here in the picture command.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 13, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don’t have to hit ctrl. Just print-screen by itself works.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like he’s being robbed.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 13, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed him trying to evade the team mobbing after the end of the play.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the “Rumble” scene from West Side Story.

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Needs some ice cream.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to bed at about 10-ish. Imagine my surprise this morning. I found out because my team’s FIP was all screwed up:

Player FIP HD K QS S
Rank
Kershaw, Clayton SP LA 2.900 0 4 1 0
Hammel, Jason SP COL 2.486 0 4 0 0
Kuo, Hong-Chih RP LA 3.200 1 0 0 0
Broxton, Jonathan RP LA 0.000 0 0 0 0

TOTALS 3.343 1 8 1 0

The total FIP is higher than any individual FIP. Then I see the little “sad” box next to Broxton and “Broxton can’t hold off Phils”. Glad to take one for the team, folks.

I’ll have to go back and mlb.tv the last couple of innings, obviously.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 13, 2010 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Question:

How nice is it for Phillies fans to know that the Dodgers, and especially Jonathan Broxton, are their BITCH?

by FloridaownsFSU on Aug 13, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Broxton is like Pedro the he was the Yanks bitch looks like Broxton is the Phillies bitch.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Aug 13, 2010 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

DUDE

You’re alive!!!!!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 13, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check the game thread last night. I think Christopher A is on the 15 day DL, but he will be here for the rest of the season. Two words: Lamp Condom

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the game chatter as I was assembling a fishing device while being able to watch on MLB network instead of the laptop.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s funny

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 15, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what are the chances the dodgers lay down for the braves because they know it would affect us? I don’t think this would happen, but since they are pretty much out of it, they have to at least be considering it a little bit don’t you think?

by PhilsForever on Aug 13, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Teams don’t consciously do this kind of shit, as much as fans want to believe it. Especially with 50 games left in the season.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 13, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see the Dodgers doing this, as much as LA fans would like to see it (some were actually rooting to get swept by the Braves just to help them win the division and keep the Phils out of the playoffs).

I could never in good conscience root against the Phils, even if it meant eradicating a rival.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Aug 13, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

the team you have the most ill will against is the one you’re playing right now.

by Bilzo on Aug 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

 1919 Black Sox – throwing games didn’t work to well for them. To consciously to lay down for another team to punish a rival is still game fixing.

by j reed on Aug 14, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Hex Kid at the game was funny

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Aug 13, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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