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Phillies Notebook: Phillies pitcher Oswalt had no problem playing leftfield
No matter how aggravating this series has been and will remain, the way the crowd really embraced Roy Oswalt was awesome.
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Well, he's pretty much on the mark.
Nationals Journal - Nyjer Morgan suspended seven games by MLB
Nationals center fielder Nyjer Morgan was suspended seven games by Major League Baseball for his actions Saturday night. In the middle of the ninth inning, Morgan threw a ball into the stands at Citizens Bank Ballpark in Philadelphia and struck a fan.
Wait, what?
Reading Phillies beat Richmond 4-2
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Hey, he's still striking fools out.
Sutter to observe, tutor Mathieson
Hopefully he'll work with some other pitchers as well.
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Even thought his hasn't been the breakout year for James that many had hoped for, he has gotten kind of a late start as a position player.
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Things Oswalt Probably did not think would happen in his first month as a Phillie
- A pinch hitting appearance in extras with the game on the line.
- Coming into any game to play the outfield.
I do love his sense of humor about the situation- wonder how he drew the short straw to go to left field!
From what I heard they looked at the available pitchers based on their athleticism/skill and it came down to Oswalt and Kendrick. Kyle was warming in the bullpen in case of emergency, so Oswalt it was.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
I wonder where Hamels would have fallen on this depth chart if he hadn’t been the starting pitcher in that game?
What I’m really wondering is: What would have happened if the Astros had singled to left with a runner on second? If you’re the third base coach in that situation, do you test Oswalt’s arm?
I probably would, particularly at that point in the game where risking the out may be worth potentially scoring the winning run.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Whenever I ask a general question like that, you should assume I’m not talking to you.
by taco pal on Aug 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think so. Pitchers don’t usually have to make that kind of long throw, and it doesn’t allow for a windup and so forth for repeatable mechanics… I think there’s an excellent chance the throw gets air-mailed.
From the article I linked to below:
“Shane actually walked over there and said, ‘If there is a high fly ball, do you want me to come over and catch it?’ I said, ‘Hell, no,’ " Oswalt recalled. “This is what I’ve wanted to do forever, throw someone out at the plate from the outfield. I was hoping it would be fairly deep so I could tell these outfielders this is how you throw it.”
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Inky article has details about what happened to get Oswalt in left field – http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100826_Who_s_on_first__That_was_just_one_of_the_problems.html?viewAll=y
It’s a good read:
The Phillies didn’t have much of a choice. Beyond Oswalt, the lone remaining players were starters Roy Halladay, Kyle Kendrick and Joe Blanton.
“Halladay was not going out there,” pitching coach Rich Dubee said.
Kendrick was already in the bullpen, preparing in case the game went so long that his services were required. So it was between Oswalt and Blanton. The coaching staff chose Oswalt.
“He might move a little better” than Blanton, Dubee said.
and:
Roy Oswalt had never played outfield in a baseball game. When he was growing up, he pitched and played shortstop when he wasn’t on the mound.
But there was that one time, when he was 12 years old and his dad let him play in the local softball league. Every weekend, as Oswalt remembers it, 12 to 15 teams would gather at a field in his hometown of Weir, Miss. (population: 500 or so). So that counts, right?
“We shag every day,” Oswalt said. “A fly ball is a fly ball.”
True. Yet Oswalt said as he ran to left field to begin the inning, he had more adrenaline than he ever has on a baseball field – except when he made his major-league debut in 2001.
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The PH I was talking about occurred in extra innings of the Nationals game, his third game with the team. He had a successful sacrifice bunt.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As for Nyjer Morgan throwing at a fan, I had the same reaction when I read that this morning – what? Anyone have more details?
From the articles I have read, apparently Morgan and a rather vocal Phillies fan got into it back and forth. After catching the last out of the inning (there is some dispute as to whether it was the eighth or the ninth), Morgan threw the ball up into the stands at the fan, hitting another fan in the head. This is not the first time that a player has been suspended for tossing a ball at a fan in a malicious fashion. Last season, Tigers closer Fernando Rodney was fined and suspended three games (later reduced to one) for firing a ball into the press box at Tropicana Field.
Anyone out there in the blog-reading world witness this first hand?
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey all the lawyers out there – couldn’t he be charged with some type of assualt and battery for that?
Lawyers? There are lawyers here? Run for your lives!
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
2000 lawyers at the bottom of a vast nationwide conspiracy of baseball blogs is considered a good start, statistically speaking.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Difficult but possible- have to prove intent to harm beyond a reasonable doubt, which would be difficult to do with the custom of outfielders tossing the ball from the third out into the stands.
I was thinking a civil case for battery might lie, assuming the fan who go hit suffered any type of damages.
by Boundforbeach on Aug 26, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Possibly… although he would have the argument that considering where he was (low down in the outfield stands during a baseball game) that he had assumed the risk of getting hit by a ball. This, accompanied with having to prove the intent element would probably kill it (although it does sound like an interesting bar exam question).
does civil battery require mens rea? I didn’t think it did. I’m sure this was covered in that stupid Kaplan bar review course. Should have paid attention.
by Boundforbeach on Aug 26, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He could be charged with simple assault.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Or, depending on his mindset, attempted first degree murder.
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
True but you and I both know that proving intent on something like this would be next to impossible.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
As someone who practices law for a living then it would be wrong of me to say that anything is really impossible but in this case, short of Morgan admitting to his intent being murder or a string of assault charges under his belt then the best anyone could really do if they wanted to engage in a civil suit against him would be simple assault or possibly assault with a deadly weapon.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Also, I figured it was understood but maybe not. In most states but not all, assault and battery are usually charged in conjunction with each other. In this case, you could charge Morgan with assault and battery because the ball actually struck the victim. I mentioned Assault with a Deadly Weapon, or Aggravated Assault, essentially the same thing since Morgan struck the person with an object that could be deemed as deadly. If Morgan had thrown the ball at the fan and missed him completely then assault is the best you could do.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
I’ve always wondered why hockey players don’t take legal action against other hockey players for harm inflicted that was a) clearly against league rules but b) clearly demonstrable that league officials did not IMMEDIATELY intervene to prevent injury.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess because it’s just considered part of the game? It did happen not that long ago when McSorely was charged with and found guilty of assault with a weapon when he swung at Donald Brashear’s head.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Yeah, this has certainly come out of nowhere.
I never really liked Morgan though, and this certainly doesn’t change my mind.
by PhillyFriar on Aug 26, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The fan probably deserved it, right?
by David S. Cohen on Aug 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I just thought Morgan was endearingly-to-offputtingly kooky. I didn’t know he was a Milton Bradleyesque rage machine out to harm people.
Probably time for the folks in MLB’s risk management office ought to order up a psych eval. And I’m surprised that a toddler drinking out of a beer bottle gets such interweb play and that this one was completely missed. Just goes to show you that if a tree falls in the fores and no one is there to record it with their digital video thingy, there’s just no fun to be had.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus, you know, Philly fans getting hurt is OK, because we’re all evil and stuff.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Morgan should have known that if the Phanatic isn’t safe from legal fan action, no one is.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know—if Cody Ross or Hunter Pence threw a ball at me—I might sue. Just because I hate them. so. much.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Perhaps this site can be the epicenter for elevating boorish Philly fan behavior from simple booing and profanity-laced tirades to torrents of nuisance legal action. Plus we may have the stable of legal ponies already in house. I can hear the late-night TV ad already:
“Annoyed by how an opposing ballplayer’s face looks? You don’t have to sit back and take it anymore! Call WholeCamels, the FAN INJURY attorney! He’ll fight for your rights and tie those stiffs up in court for their entire off-seasons!”
I’d imagine opposing teams would fear us all anew. We may then really have to pony up for the $300 licensing fee from the city, however.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
if it works, Dad goes on the payroll like everybody else.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Find some fans from the late 90s/early 2000s and sue for emotional abuse
by SportingFanaticism on Aug 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Preview
Phillies Potential Starters v. Rodriguez
Ben Francisco: 1-3
Ryan Howard: 2-6, HR
Raul Ibanez: 0-3
Placido Polanco: 2-7, HR
Jimmy Rollins: 4-9, HR
Carlos Ruiz: 2-3
Brian Schneider: 4-7
Chase Utley: 1-7
Shane Victorino: 3-8
Jayson Werth: 2-4
Potential Starters v. Kendrick
Geoff Blum: 2-8
Michael Bourn: 4-7, HR
Anderson Hernandez: 2-6, HR
Chris Johnson: 0-1
Carlos Lee: 1-7
Astros sweep yeah or nah? I think they sweep and then The Phillies go on a tear.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
No… The offense is going to show up and bring Kyle some run support- it is better than birthday cake!
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully it isn’t when bad kyle shows up than we will have to score more than 4 runs. You are right it would be better than a birthday cake with raspberry filling.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Aug 26, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking white cake with my wonderful co-worker’s strawberry jam reduction, but ymmv.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lineup for Today
Rollins
Utley
Polanco
Howard
Werth
Ibañez
Victorino
Schneider
A little surprised to see Howard starting given the first base ump. However, he does have good career numbers against him. I am also a little surprised that both Utley and Ibañez are starting considering their career miserable numbers… Particularly Ibañez, as Francisco has been decent against him. Utley is more understandable given that Valdez has never faced him.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Never mind on the Ibañez/ Francisco thing— too small a sample size to judge.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you don’t start Howard because of an umpire, then the terrorists win.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well thanks! You need not feel discomfited. There are ways of expressing the idea that go back to ancient times.
What a week. That’s my second love pronouncement in a week for those of you keeping score.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
congrats WL. Kinda humourous with mentions of gay and love pronouncements from the SFO blog linked together.
It’s a subtle concept that, again, has confused us humans for years. But I get that if someone says they love me, they don’t necessarily want to screw. In most cases, that’s probably all for the best.
And I’d rather collect those kinds of pronouncements that the opposite.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
now on this score I’ve remained confused ever since puberty, and all the late John Hughes flicks in the world couldn’t break it down for me.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
True. I just do not want to see Ryan get into trouble with that (insert word not suitable for this blog) umpire Barry or have Barry make a potentially close call fueled by his attitude toward Ryan.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If the Phillies were 12 games up, I might do so, only to rest him and reduce the risk of another brouhaha which could result in a suspension. So the risk is real, but you gotta play your best players.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I understand the move, and just hope that 1- there is not a really close play involving Barry today (preferably the whole incompetent crew) and 2- that if there is something close, both of them are able to handle the situation in a mature manner.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If the recent reports are correct, Howard actually has the upper hand in this dispute. In fact, he can push the envelope an inch or two in arguing a call today, knowing that Barry will have to tread lightly.
you can let Werth slide on a random pickoff. Benny F needs a day to stew in his stupidity. As a bench player, you don’t get rewarded with a second start for being a bonehead the previous day.
The Werth play was worse. Francisco actually saw the throw and was got back to the bag. He just stepped on the third baseman’s foot.
True… However mindgames or no, foot on second base bag is something that even I can get right.
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But how many “random pickoffs” does Werth have this year?
by dannijd on Aug 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Phils games online...
looking for help here… is there a way to listen (or even watch) for free online to the games? I cant get them at work on 1210 website…
any info is appreciated. thanks!

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