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Singles Night: Phillies 7, Mets 5

The hallmark of the Phillies offense over their recent run of NL East dominance has been power. Half the 2009 lineup were 30-home run hitters, with slugger Ryan Howard leading the way. But with Howard and Chase Utley both on the shelf, and Jayson Werth and Raul Ibanez both well off their '09 power pace, the team has sought other ways to score lately. In the eighth inning Friday night against the Mets, six Phillies crossed the plate not only without benefit of the long ball, but lacking so much as an extra-base hit.

Five singles to start off the inning, a walk, another single, a sacrifice fly, and one more single did the damage, with new arrival Mike Sweeney registering the first and last of the hits. Trailing 2-1, Sweeney and Jayson Werth were at first and third when Ben Francisco fell behind hard-throwing Mets reliever Bobby Parnell 0-2, fought off a couple pitches foul, then poked a slider into shallow center to tie the game. Carlos Ruiz got ahead of Parnell before knocking a fastball back up the middle to score Werth and put the Phils ahead. With lefty specialist Pedro Feliciano now in for Parnell, Wilson Valdez laid down a bunt to the third base side that David Wright inexplicably retreated on, allowing Valdez to reach and loading the bases. Feliciano--quite possibly confused to find himself facing Phillies hitters other than perennial adversaries Utley and Howard--fell behind Ross Gload 3-0, battled back to work the count full, then threw an inside fastball for ball four and another Phillies run. Jimmy Rollins banged a hard single to left to make it 5-2. After Raul Ibanez struck out and Manny Acosta came in for Feliciano, Placido Polanco hit a deep fly to center that scored Valdez, and Sweeney--who started at first base, batted cleanup, and made a spectacular diving play to end the top of the eighth--finished things off with a hard single to left center and a 7-2 Phillies lead. 

Those last two runs proved useful. On to wrap things up, Danys Baez struck out Wright, but allowed a single to Ike Davis. Josh Thole popped out, but Jeff Francoeur dribbled a grounder up the third base line that refused to roll foul, putting two on with two out. With lefty pinch-hitter Chris Carter announced for the Mets, Charlie Manuel called on J.C. Romero to relieve Baez. But Mets skipper Jerry Manuel pulled back Carter in favor of veteran minor-league slugger Mike Hessman, and the journeyman blasted a Romero offering into the right-field seats to bring the Mets within 7-5. Out came Charlie again, this time to bring in Brad Lidge... and the much-doubted closer finished things off by striking out Jesus Feliciano.

Lost in the late drama were a pair of standout starting pitching performances. Joe Blanton had one of his better outings this year for the Phils, allowing two runs on seven hits while striking out four. Jonathon Niese was even better for the Mets, wriggling out of some early jams to hold the Phils to one run on four hits. The young lefty showed a superior curve to complement his cutter, working through early control problems (five walks on the night) to finish seven innings. 

Cole Hamels and Johan Santana face off tomorrow night as the Phils go for a lucky thirteenth straight win at home. Now here's the goodness: 

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via www.fangraphs.com


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I’d pretty much resigned this one to a night of wasted opportunities and inability to get that big hit. The the 8th inning happened and baseball was fun again.

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Then came the top of the 9th.

by RaptorLC on Aug 6, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

I pretty much had a storyline all laid out in my head that went something like: “well, with all these hitters out and having won a lot lately, I guess we can grudgingly live with the offense serving up its first shitburger in a couple weeks.”

But yeah, this was much better.

by dajafi on Aug 6, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was there special sauce on that shit burger?

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not totally up to date on Rules 5 regulations.
Can phils place Herndon on DL, retain his rights, and call up Bastardo to be another lefty in the pen? I think they can. Let’s face it, Herndon won’t be on postseason roster and Bastardo would help out. Romero has lost it. He’s pitching same way he was when Red Sox cut his ass.
Pedro45 – August 6, 2010 via mobile reply

by Pedro45 on Aug 6, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think this used to happen all the time—Rule 5 guys going on the DL with very suspicious injuries. Then the league started to crack down. With only a few weeks left until roster expansion, they’ll probably just try to hang onto Herndon, whom they obviously like for next year and beyond.

Maybe the better idea is to DL Romero, who might well be injured; for his sake, I kind of hope so, because he’s a meltdown right now.

by dajafi on Aug 6, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe next time bullpen guy/security/grounds crew guy opens door to field for him, he could trip him. Break a toe. Nothing serious.
In regards to roster, think Utleys return gets pushed back to September 1 day rosters expand? When three On DL return I think Mayberry and Brown sent down, DObbs DFAd. 9/1 return at least saves a Dobbs DFA -can’t believe I just typed that.

by Pedro45 on Aug 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think Utley comes back before 9/1. It’ll be very interesting how they handle the roster spots if all three regulars are back by then. Mayberry I’m sure will vacate one spot, but who else goes between Brown, Dobbs and Valdez (I’m assuming Gload, Francisco and Sweeney are all here for the duration, health permitting), I dunno.

by dajafi on Aug 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dobbs has to go.
I’m by no means hoping to delay Utleys return. Don’t get me wrong. My girlfriend won’t watch when he’s not playing but that’s not really a bad thing. But for depth concerns and postseason eligibility RAJ has to keep Valdez on 40 man.

by Pedro45 on Aug 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Probably Mayberry, then Dom, not Dobbs (yes, ugh)

The problem with DFAing Dobbs now is that they have no other backup for the infield (Sweeney and Gload only play 1st). Dobbs DFA has to wait for Utley to come back, and he is not back until Sept according to all reports, so Dobbs is likely here for the duration (at least until the playoffs).

If Howard or Vic come back before Sept 1, buh-bye to Mayberry. But if the 2nd of those is back before Sept, it will be a tough call for management. They either send Dom back or DFA/DL a pitcher and go with one less pitcher on the roster until Sept. I know we have several pitching candidates for DFAing, but it gets trickier if that pitcher were not replaced. It’s more like RAJ to send Dom back than to go with one less pitcher.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdez has a really nice glove. Too bad the team will only have a five-man bench in the playoffs.

by Derekcarstairs on Aug 6, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdez almost certainly would be on the playoff roster

See above. We DFA’d Castro earlier. Valdez>Dobbs (certainly fielding), so Valdez would be kept on the roster. He would be the only 2nd/SS/3rd base backup.

It is much more likely that we would go with an 11 man pitching staff in the playoffs (but not in August). Assuming no more DL stints, I would suspect a bench of Ben F, Gload, Sweeney, Valdez, Schneider for sure, and maybe Dom (the choice would be Dom vs. pitcher, not Valdez).

But we are getting way, way ahead of ourselves.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m trying—unsuccessfully—not to think through who would be on the 25-man playoff roster.

I will say that I’m pretty sure they’d go 2 catchers, 6 infielders, 6 outfielders (Brown likely as #6), 4 starters, 7 relievers (with Kendrick as long man).

by dajafi on Aug 7, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We agree (in this case, Dom> 12th pitcher, and Gload is an “OF”).

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should we sacrifice a chicken to Base’baal for the 13th straight win at home?

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 6, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Think we need something more than a chicken for that.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need a virgin, sowhatifsports it is.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Aug 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news

And Chase’s cast is off.

In a week or so he should be throwing and swinging a bat. That’s going to be HUGE the team could actually field the lineup Chuck pictured at the start of the season, the one that has only been on the field 5 times this year.

Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 6, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what RAJ’s smug meter is on Sweeney right now, I’d imagine it’s something akin to smugdog:

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Aug 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

this picture works so well…

by TwistyWristy on Aug 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that Shawn Michaels?

by RaptorLC on Aug 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like him but I don’t think so.

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea who it is but it’s just so ridiculous that I saved it.

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by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is.

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by kmblue on Aug 7, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quite a good first impression by Mike Sweeny

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Aug 6, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Giants got something cooking against the Rat.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

A question for all you knowledgeable fans… does it officially count as a blown save when the tying/winning run is scored off of an error by anyone other than the pitcher?

by TwistyWristy on Aug 6, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. If the run is scored on his watch, it counts as a blown save.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Thanks, I appreciate it!

by TwistyWristy on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep…doesn’t matter how it cross the plate..be it a balk, error, K/WP….just as long as it scores while that guy is on the mound.

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boot for Chipper ties the game!

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larry makes an Error….Tie game.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Boo, walking Burrell. Guess the Rat didn’t want to deal with the one Pat swing.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks for the update

gametracker is two batters behind…

by TwistyWristy on Aug 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It all happened so fast.

by Ritty77 on Aug 6, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat with a great defensive play!

Well, he caught a fly, didn’t he?

Yes I am old. I remember the Phils good old days and their bad old days. Course, the good old days I'm thinking of were in 2009.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Pat’s always been an underrated defender. So-so range, but good arm and always knew his limitations in the field.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always liked his arm, but its one of those things where the guys with bad arms get run on more and hence get to throw more guys out. Still…I thought it was pretty good.

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember cringing at some of the plays Raul made in the field at the start of last season….diving for balls that went under his glove and to the wall….Pat didn’t do that schtick.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand my post was something of a cheap shot, and I generally agree with all of above. Pat was ok as long as he didn’t have to run to get the ball, and he threw out a few runners along the way.

Pat knew his limits. Raul’s errors were more random.

Yes I am old. I remember the Phils good old days and their bad old days. Course, the good old days I'm thinking of were in 2009.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. For me, it’s easy to like a guy who makes the most of modest talents by not making mistakes.

by phatj on Aug 7, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pat didnt have the strongest of arms but it was very accurate. I am glad to see him doing well…just hope he reverts to the 2003 version when he comes to CBP

by PSUcup1 on Aug 7, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

where you guys watching this?

by Nikk.m on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

mlb.tv

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by HappyHuman on Aug 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m watching on mlb.com…same way I watch phils.

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right here is faster.

by Ritty77 on Aug 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

My cable system (I’m in TN, but you knew that) gets Peachtree. Although, happily but weirdly, without commercials.

Yes I am old. I remember the Phils good old days and their bad old days. Course, the good old days I'm thinking of were in 2009.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 outs…Alex Gonzalez is up.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

mlbn picked it up

by Nikk.m on Aug 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Gonzalez whiffed. Free ball!

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d have to imagine the braves get the nod in extras. Their bullpen is vera vera good.

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

they’ve burned their best two already. PS I cant wait until Venter’s arm falls off from being raped by Cox every night

by Nikk.m on Aug 6, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since both Giants and Braves losing helps the Phils, it would be especially nice if this game went to 13 innings or so and both teams bull pens got burned out a bit.

by Whack8888 on Aug 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally, I’d rather the Giants win this inning as I should really be fully concentrating on working right now…

by TwistyWristy on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha yeah it is pretty distracting

by Whack8888 on Aug 6, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peter Moylan has only allowed 1 run in the past 17 games….

He’s Due!

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

stinkin’ mccann

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ran right out of the rally….CS.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh Werth like.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure why they were running with no outs. Seemed a little suspicious, especially since Moylan was having trouble throwing strikes.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Not anymore. DP ends inning.

Yes I am old. I remember the Phils good old days and their bad old days. Course, the good old days I'm thinking of were in 2009.

Homer's Epics: An Odyssey for the Salary Cap, The Quest For the Goalie Grail

by Bud in TN on Aug 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

After tonight the most we’ll be is 1 game out in the playoff hunt.

by Nikk.m on Aug 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but I still like to see the Braves lose in gut-twisting fashion.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double Play. Bottom of the 10th.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

3 DPs in 3 innings for the Giants. Hope they hit like then when they come to play us.

by Nikk.m on Aug 6, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

id just prefer nobody get on base honestly

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

does exxon play for the giants?

by Bilzo on Aug 6, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope that Timmy Pothead gives up lots of bombs to us when they come to Philly.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice quote from Sweeney
It was a great team win," said newly acquired Mike Sweeney, who got two hits in the eighth. "It’s exciting to come to the ballpark every day. This is a dream come true."

(Source: AP)

That is one of the best “just happy to be here” cliche-ish quotes I’ve heard in a while. Except he might actually mean it. If he hits AND he has a good attitude, that will work just fine, thank you. Reminiscent of Stairs, except from the right side.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

What a great pickup this guy is.

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Motivated players are good to have.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor guy has never been on a contending team before. I think he really is happy to be with the Phils.

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by HappyHuman on Aug 7, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too and this makes me hope even more that we can make it to the World Series and win. Guys like this are so excited and energetic, you hope it motivates the rest of the team just as much.

by TwistyWristy on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Omar the Baby with a base hit. Winning run on base w/2 outs.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Padres lost. Nice. Could be WC competition down the road.

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Cliff Lee is freaking ridiculous.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

he is dealin’ right now on mlbnetwork

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

left one up for suzuki there though.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know man. I’m perfectly content with the way our rotation has panned out, but it would be truly sick to still have him in the rotation. He’s a unhuman.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they could pull some Enron-style accounting tricks, he could be back next season.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d hate for it to cost the grounds crew their pensions…

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

People still have pensions? I am stuck with a 403b plan. No pensions here.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The enron people had 401Ks, but I was just using the very very loose meaning of pension.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Yeah, they were screwed bad. I think the Astros’ stadium should still be Enron Field…just as a reminder to the public.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Er…I think the enron people had 401ks, but I may be wrong on that.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But most of their 401K was tied up in the company stock, per management’s strong (and basically unethical) recommendation.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically…

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

article fail, just unhuman.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt will be fine as a #2 (or is it #3?). But we’ll miss the Lee swagger.

But if anyone was going to take him, Texas is fine They’ve never won a playoff series. I would actually pull for them in an ALDS series.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giants with a runner. Time for another DP

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giants have 2 on, 0 outs.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

trying to bunt to stay out of the GIDP….

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

didn’t hit it hard enough…but the braves stay where the DP is still an option

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, Juanito. I wanna see jazz hands.

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by HappyHuman on Aug 7, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Nearly GIDP.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

i’m pretty sure obese panda can GIDP with the best of them

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Ok Giants, get this run in.

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I think they are pitching around Sandoval….I refuse to call him that ridiculous nickname.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I would love to let loose some “WOO PAT BURRELL” if for no other reason than old times’ sake.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

1-1 pitch looked good to me

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was a strike, but the ump didn’t agree ;)

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pat with sac fly…

Giants up 3-2.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

SF, PTB

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Pat the Bat with a sac fly.

by RaptorLC on Aug 7, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good enough

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by HappyHuman on Aug 7, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

ehh…woo pat burrell.

it’s a run, but I’m greedyish.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Brian Wilson should be money. Braves offense is pretty bad

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna have to settle for that though. Ishikawa has been rather useless tonight.

by RaptorLC on Aug 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uselessness continued. Going to the bottom.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two… and now comes that infernal chant.

by RaptorLC on Aug 7, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

ugh…i wish anybody but mccann was up here.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Rangers win, lead by 9.5

Lee’s K/BB is historic according to MLB network: 126/9.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

seems pretty good

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do better than that….on MLB The Show.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cant wait to see what he gets this winter. 5/110?

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Giants win the game! The Giants win the game! The Giants win the game!

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting celebratory pose, Wilson.

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by HappyHuman on Aug 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, what was that?

by essman on Aug 7, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does it as a tribute to his deceased father.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

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by HappyHuman on Aug 7, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

so sweet to see Wagner blow another save

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He barely escaped blowing one yesterday too, gave up a shot that barely went foul that would’ve been gone and before that snagged a comeback liner that was also smoked. With a walk in between.

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by Djax10 on Aug 7, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent job Giants!

by TwistyWristy on Aug 7, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Six team race for 4 spots: 2.5 back

Since this is really a six team race for 4 spots, the aim should be for 1st overall in NL. Right now, they are 2.5 back of SD. Do-able (and that in itself is amazing, given the DL and bullpen).

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by Bud in TN on Aug 7, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Great matchup tomorrow. Mets have just about given up, need Cole to step on their throat tomorrow.

by Nikk.m on Aug 7, 2010 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the fact that a thee-run home run in the ninth inning barely shows as a blip on the Fangraph. Which, for all that I was cursing Romero at the time, pretty much sums up how I felt about it. I think the Phillies should always have a five-run lead (or more) going into the 9th.

by phatj on Aug 7, 2010 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be asking for too much. They wouldn’t be the Phillies that we know and love.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

The good thing about a five run lead is that after scoring 3 runs, most teams have shot their load and the save becomes that much easier with the bases empty following the HR.

by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Indeed, any good rally needs the merry-go-round. See 8th inning, bottom, Phillies.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although the Reds game in early July was the exception to this.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Over at TC they are looking over thier sholders.

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by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

so much for the spell checker, huh?

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sunday game

Random question, I am going to the game tomorrow and I never go early enough to see batting practice. For a 1:30 start what time do the Phillies take the field for batting practice? Thanks

by TheBeefOnSports on Aug 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Often they do not take batting practice for a 1:30 start following a night game. But I’d get there as soon as the gates open, which I think is around 2 hours before first pitch. But I think you can check that on the Phillies website.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ve never been able to watch bp. I would like to sometime. no matter how early we went, they were never hitting.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I caught the Phillies BP when they were in Washington. Since I know some of the dugout security, I was able to get in pretty close. Got a picture of Rube, Uncle Pat, and Charlie yakking it up with GG and J-Roll.

by WanderingMoses on Aug 7, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once got two balls in BP. One that Ryan Madson gave me, and another that Polanco hit out. This was during Polanco’s first stint here.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts?

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2010/08/missing-piece.html

I am struggling to decide how I feel about this. And maybe I am being overly dramatic about this, and that’s fine but I feel like Howard should have been at last nights game. The article pointed out that Utley was there and I remember seeing Vic. Utley even traveled with the team to Florida, which, given that his issue was a thumb and not an ankle then I can totally understand and support him traveling and Howard not. But considering the faith this team showed Howard by giving him that massive contract I think it’s only fair that he go to games even while he is on the DL and not required to be there, simply to support his team. I guess I would almost understand if this team was in last place and their games were meaningless but that is clearly not the case.

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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

In the same vain, the guy is one of the most durable in the game, rarely ever takes a day off, so I guess this really isn’t any big deal but I do believe pretty strongly in being there to support your team.

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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s likely in quite a bit of pain; if in a few weeks, when he’s resuming any kind of physical/baseball activities and he doesn’t show, then we can talk about it.

I think it’s unfair to compare anyone to Utley; guy is just made of different stuff. He’s a bit of a nutbar, and I totally dig that about him, but he’s uber intense. It doesn’t work for everyone.

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by doubleh on Aug 7, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may very well be in a ton of pain but if that’s the case, I wouldn’t be grocery shopping and pushing around a cart, or going to a movie or a club(supposedly). I would be resting so that I could come back on time if not early.

I agree that it might be unfair to compare anyone to Utley, and like I said, I don’t think Howard had to, nor should have traveled to Florida like Utley did but even a nut like Vic managed to make it to the game list night. I think that is what gets me the most.

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If his teammates aren’t bothered by it, I most certainly am not.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they may very well not be and that says a lot about the team if they aren’t. It’s not like Howard doesn’t give 110% everytime out there. I am not trying to slam Howard, he doesn’t have to be there, so it’s not like he is doing anything wrong, and I guess it’s naive to think that just because Howard is on the DL that he should stay laid up at home nursing his ankle, I don’t remember Madson hanging around after his chair kicking DL stint either. I guess for me it comes down to his other team mates being there and his giant pay day.

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything, stuff like that is a great PR, image type of thing.

by j reed on Aug 7, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t give two craps about where Ryan Howard was. When he’s off the DL and playing, then I’ll care.

by David S. Cohen on Aug 7, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It all comes down to this: if the Phillies were a bunch of assholes who hated one another, hated the media, couldn’t care less about the fans, abused their puppies, and were members of the KKK, even the black players, but they played excited baseball on the field and won games, including a championship here and there, would you root for them? I bet you would, and so would the entire city. The play on the field is what we pay for, and why we watch the games. What they do on their own time is almost irrelevant. In fact, I kind of operate with the assumption that most of them are not people I’d have any reason to like personally, and I’m completely ok with that. (OK, maybe if they were all KKK members, I’d have to find another hobby….)

by David S. Cohen on Aug 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with him getting a mini-vacation out of this. It’s not like he tried to sprain it. I expect that he’ll be back in the dugout soon. If he just disappeared for the whole stint, I’d be a little miffed, but if he’s getting some R&R during the initial stages…good for him. Howard doesn’t display too much prima-donna-ness, he seems to be a very good team player and fun loving guy, who LOVES his job. Enjoy the time away RyHo. Sorry it’s under these circumstances.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though – if he disappeared for the entire stint, say a vacation to Tahiti, came back and asked “what’s our record now coach?,” but then proceeded to mash for the last month and a half, leading to the team to the playoffs, would you really be miffed?

by David S. Cohen on Aug 7, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that happened, I’d be miffed if the team didn’t arrange for DL stints in Tahiti for every player.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i wouldn’t. I’d be ticked at the start, and as soon as he hit a HR that won a game, I’d forgive him.

But I’d have to say that based on his usual early season sub average performances, I have a hard time believing that if he’s away from the game for an extended period of time, that he could walk back and rake right away, and I don’t know if being in the dugout would help with that or not.

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

POOF

gone

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by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know WC, you keep on pulling these Stalinesque antics you will have a Bastille Day on your hands :)

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~Thomas Jefferson

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any time you delete a post you should insert this image instead, but of Pravda is should read Phight

"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

~Thomas Jefferson

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

PHяГHT

it would be this btw

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~Thomas Jefferson

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

quick n' dirty

I decided to forego the Cyrillic because I didn’t want to have to explain what it says 3,000 times.

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by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Win.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much win

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I support this.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

trying to raise the literary IQ of the good phight one literary reference at a time

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to go David Copperfield.

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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winston Smith, hard at work.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a 2 minute video of the boss of Talking Chop speaking his filth to the suspecting masses?

"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

~Thomas Jefferson

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven’t seen one but I bet there is one of J.F laying into his people over at ILWT.

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a inside joke on Winston Smith Rex :)

"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"

~Thomas Jefferson

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh to be a prole…

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it better to know that the world is a predictable game with a clear winner or lose, or to think you are in the constant struggle and make a difference in the end?

Fucking O’Brien

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 7, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

please follow the SBNation guidelines for posting. Posts that are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…

-HeyJude

by Bilzo on Aug 7, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I am well aware Winston Smith from 1984.

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by EREX21 on Aug 7, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

You should photoshop the Mets banner into one of the pictures of Jonestown, post Kool Aid.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not gonna lie

I laughed before I could stop myself from laughing at such a comment.

And wasn’t it actually Flavor-Aid?

by essman on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh, details.

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by FuquaManuel on Aug 7, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking Francouer are you serious

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by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Aug 7, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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