Barrage a Trois: Phillies 8, Dodgers 4
by WholeCamels on Sep 1, 2010 8:11 AM EDT
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PrintBrian Schneider and Ryan Howard paced the Phillies' offensive attack with a pair of three run homers, and Carlos Ruiz capped off the scoring with a two-RBI single of his bitch, Jonathon Broxton, en route to an 8-4 Phillies victory over the Dodgers. The Phillies battered former farmhand Carlos Montaserios for five runs on five hits in two plus innings pitched.
Phillies starter Kyle Kendrick showed signs of the same lack of command that defined his previous start, including a walked in run in the first. Kendrick escaped further damage on a double play ground ball. Kendrick's night ended after a two run homer by James Loney in the bottom of the 6th inning. He allowed seven hits and one walk, with no strikeouts, in five full innings pitched.
Howard's home run was his first in over a month, and his first extra base hit since returning from the disabled list.
The Phillies' bullpen turned in another outstanding effort, with Chad Durbin, J.C. Romero, Ryan Madson, and Brad Lidge turning in a combined four innings of one hit, no run relief.
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Nice win last night
Phils finally got some hitting and the bullpen had an excellent night. An okay start by Kendrick but I will take it from a #5 starter.
From the minors, sure. But if you pay for a #5 starter, you’re almost certainly misallocating your resources.
I think this brings up an interesting question:
Who are the most important players (WRT: position and pitcher (SP and RP)) to bring back after their contract is up or extend now?
SP: Hamels – Still under current contract with a 4th year arb eligibility in 2012
RP: Madson – FA after 2011
IN/OF: J-Roll – FA after 2011
The Phillies do not give contracts longer than 3 years to pitchers as a matter of organizational policy.
Technically they commited 4 years to Halladay (this year, plus 3 year extension). In Cole’s case the first of those 4 years will still be an Arb-controlled year. And finally you have to make exceptions in exceptional cases and a home-grown ace would qualify.
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True… anybody down on the farm who could be a legitimate threat to Kyle? (at least provide competition, and perhaps a better (but still cost controlled) option?
Worley is probably the top candidate. Carpenter, maybe, with a strong spring.
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I think they’ll go with Carpenter, because he’s always been groomed as the next starter, but I don’t think he’ll make it.
I hope you are correct, but for the past couple years, it seems every time they need a spot start that isn’t a bullpen game, they go with him.
I guess a lot of that is that he’s on the 40 man, but it just doesn’t seem they’ve found another minor league guy that they’re comfortable giving that chance too, and there’s no budding superstar who’s close enough yet.
wow…i really thought he’d done it 2-3 times. I see that’s all the games he’s made it into though.
To that effect…who else have they called up for a spot start since then?
the answer is:
Fabio Castro, John Ennis, and Zack Segovia, all in 2007, none of which are still in the organization.
In any event, even if the team felt that someone was the best option to make a spot start in 2009, it does not follow that the team will feel that the same person will be the best option to be a starter in 2011 unless the alternatives in 2011 are identical to the alternatives that existed in 2009.
I don’t get why people expect so much out of a #5 starter. He has been productive from his spot. He has a 0.6 WAR. Again, from a #5 starter, I enjoy his production this year. We don’t have anyone better than him this year and he is pretty cheap.
Fifth starter isn’t a difficult position to upgrade, though, if you take some educated gambles in the offseason with minor league free agents, non tenders, and bargain basement guys.
It wasn’t worth worrying about upgrading that spot for the season’s final month, but the front office shouldn’t consider Kendrick a stone cold lock for the rotation next year.
Inconsistent
Because he doesn’t get not enough K’s. There’s only few guys who have ever been able to locate that well without striking guys out. Your inevitably gonna put guys on base when you average 2k’s a game and then it’s a matter how fortunate your are to have balls hit to your defenders. So either he gets more K’s or improves his location.
Decent…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Sep 1, 2010 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I understand that it is a very small sample size, but considering his success rate, I did not understand why Torre did not leave the other pitcher in- I understand that he is a lefty specialist, but he pitched to Werth, and Ruiz is a Broxton specialist if such a thing ever existed.
Board Poll:
Now that September has arrived, I was just curious to see how confident the board here is on the team:
A) Winning the division
B) Winning the wild card
C) Not making the playoffs
I would go with:
A) 20%
B) 60%
C) 20% (the bats still have me worried a bit)
I think that’s pretty fair. FWIW, BBProspectus puts it at:
14/44/42 (standard SIM)
27/46/26 (PECOTA SIM)
23/46/31 (ELO SIM)
Taking the average of the 3 (which may or may not be appropriate) yields:
22% to win the division
45% to win the wild card
33% to be sitting at home.
Holy sliders, Batman
This would be Aroldis Chapman. Whoa:
Keys to the Game: Offense, Offense!! Where are you?
I love the reference to Broxton Ruiz’s Bitch it sure seems that way. Wait it is that way.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
Before you go too far...
Remember three little words… Small Sample Size.
by dannijd on Sep 1, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Regardless of sample size… the not so distant and horrifying past he’s had with the Phillies and Ruiz plays a big mental part of his pitching woe’s.
I don’t think the sample’s going to get any larger this year, and next year, who knows if Broxton will be the closer or not? For what it’s been so far, Ruiz owns Broxton.
by phillyinportland on Sep 3, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Begging next week, the Phils have an off day (thurs) for the next four weeks. With us trailing 3 games behind the Braves, do you think there is any chance we drop Kendrick in favor of a four man rotation? I know there was some discussion of this by Charlie weeks ago, but I hadn’t heard anything about it lately.
“Beginning” not “begging”. Freudian slip facepalm.
by Boundforbeach on Sep 1, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You can’t really drop him unless you’re okay with some starters going on short rest. The off day will not eliminate the short-rest issue entirely.
at some point in the next 2 weeks they shuffle the rotation though to line up the big 3 so they all go against Atlanta…right?
Depends. If the games turn out to be as important as they look like they’ll be, I don’t see how you can use Kendrick in them. But Blanton would be fine.
Conidering Oswalt’s record v. The Braves, is it possible the team tries to shift it to avoid him? (I do not remember the numbers off hand, but remember that his overall history v. The braves was significantly worse than his overall record.
by dannijd on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they won’t do it, but I tend to put some faith in those trends. Glavine always sucked against ATL after he left, yet the Mets kept running him out there against them.
Even ignoring sample size, I don’t see why those trends should be seen as being at all meaningful. As Jerry Seinfeld would put it, those are just stats against laundry. The actual guys who are currently on the Braves don’t have unusually good numbers against Oswalt. Mostly they haven’t really faced him very much.
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