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Some Phillies Links For You, September 13, 2010: Roy Luck Club, Jimmy's Bum Wheel, Rocktember Again

Oswalt still strong late in Phillies' shutout of Mets
Clifton Phifer Who?

Cliff Lee pitches Rangers to sweep of Yankees
Oh, right, that guy.

Phillies' Rollins gets MRI - Yahoo! Sports
Oh well this is terrific news.

Lawrence: Oswalt has had a whirlwind summer
Imagining Mike Zagurski in the NYC subway system is pretty danged funny.

Pesky Nats out to spoil Braves' playoff dreams
Yes please.

Phillies Notebook: Valdez has been valuable for Phillies

"Valdez might be our MVP," Manuel said.

LOL what?

Drabek Gets Call From Blue Jays
NEVER SHOULD HAVE TRADED HIM HALLADAY HAS 10 LOSSES OVERRATED /WIP'd

Pujols' 2 HRs lead Cardinals past Braves, 7-3
Albert Pujols, you magnificent creature you.

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-Phillies shut-outs this year;
-Games left in the season;
-Halladay wins;
-Chase Utley doubles;
-Magic number
-atomic number of Argon

by Boundforbeach on Sep 13, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

What is when I can start dating Selena Gomez, Alex.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Sep 13, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i’m sure that’s the only impediment

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure you’re well above me on her list there Casanova.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Sep 13, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So your tastes move towards the talentless unattractive frog voices?

by SportingFanaticism on Sep 13, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Sep 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unattractive is going a bit far, but to avoid sounding like a dirty old man, I’ll stop there.

by Cormican on Sep 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

One, I wasn’t the one who brought her up, and two, I probably am above you on that list anyway as long as we’re just talking about relative terms. To name only one thing, while I’m certainly too old to be thinking such thoughts as well, it would be a lot less creepy for me than for a guy who appears to have been born in 1971.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps 71 is his age.

by Cormican on Sep 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bzzzz, try again.

And I guess from your handle that your friends with Taco from The League. Try his 3 Penis Wine, it does wonders.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Sep 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big surprise, all evidence indicates that 71 would b emuch too early for your birth. I’m guessing mid 90s

by SportingFanaticism on Sep 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was backing you up til you dropped the wine reference.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t we just take it as one snark each and move on? They were both funny IMHO.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing Valdez has in common with Most Valuable Player is the letter V.

by j reed on Sep 13, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Valdez 0.628 OPS this year. 28 runs saved (RDrs/Yr) at SS
Rollins 0.695 OPS this year. 12 (RDrs/Yr) at SS.

Just sayin…

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a dumb comparison.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not so much a dumb comparison, as irrelevant to the discussion of MVP’s. Basically, yeah, he’s not too far off from Rollins’ production, but of course Rollins isn’t a very good player any more, and realistically he’s probably better than a .695 OPS. Valdez/Rollins, if anything, are contending for the title of worst Phillies player getting regular playing time.

Not that I don’t think Bilzo understood that.

by Rujasu on Sep 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rollins has played only slightly more than Valdez this year. Rollins’ WAR is about 2000% higher than Valdez’s.

Rollins is tied for the 12th-highest WAR among shortstops this year, despite the facts that (1) he’s missed over 60 games with injuries, (2) WAR is a counting statistic, and (3) he has a .251 BABIP this year. The statement that he “isn’t a very good player any more” is ludicrous.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correction: I believe BABIP is factored into WAR, so point (3) should be a “because” rather than a “despite”.

It’s possible that Rollins’ BABIP will permanently remain this low as it was low last year too. It is also possible that it will go back to normal. But even if you assume that it will not bounce back, he remains a very valuable player.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a terribly important point, but I don’t think BABIP is factored into fWAR. Jack Moore’s recent Four Factors posts have dealt with what adjustments for BABIP might look like.

by Spoilt Victorian Child on Sep 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to assume this was a joke.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

no…I think you should’ve assumed that he said he acheived cold fusion in a bottle, and then assailed his intelligence.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes rujasu, glad you got the gist of what I was saying.

Valdez is by no means an MVP caliber player, but he has filled in for an former MVP caliber player, having a bad year, and has not been a significant fall off, either at the plate or in the field.

The Phils could have done much worse than Exxon at SS this season with Rollins being hurt.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I didn’t flick the royal coachman out there for TP. Just saying Exxon has been servicable as a replacement.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what’s the royal coachman look like? Is it in the picture? I don’t know much about fishing but I worked with two guys who were hardcore bass fishermen and went out with them a few times. The one guy had this long chrome lure that looked like a piece of modern sculpture and everytime I used it, I caught the lunker. Needless to say, he was annoyed that a total noob caught the big fish of the day.

by j reed on Sep 13, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

none of those up there are the royal coachman. The things you put up are all flies, and are streamer flies, meaning they are minnow imitations, as opposed to wet/dry/nymphs which are actually insect imitations. The two bottom right ones could maybe be wet flies but I doubt it.

I got into fly fishing about 15 yrs ago or so but didn’t really enjoy it. More expensive than normal fishing, all about the purity of it, at the expense of the fun. I have a much better time with spinning tackle. I’m much more into any kind of salt-water stuff and fill in with bass/bluegill/crappie when I haven’t been able to get to the coast in a while.

Here’s a royal coachmen (dry fly), which is one of the most recognized flies. Peacock is the green stuff, red thread in the middle, tuft of white, brown hackle, forget what animal the tail is.

You’re chrome lure description covers a lot of bass lures, but could’ve been anything from a spoon, spinnerbait, buzzbait, or possibly even a jerk/stick bait.

If the noob has any casting ability they usually skunk the veterans. If they can’t cast, they’re an annoyance as you have to dig their lures away from squirrels. I much prefer having the new guy catch more than me as opposed to me having to baby sit him and neither of us catches anything.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were cool. More dismayed than anything else. Plus they liked having someone to help row.

by j reed on Sep 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep the one liner retorts coming. Keep showing those true colors.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy theory

From a comment at BR.

“yesterday on the giants v padres broadcast, fleming and i think kuiper were suggesting that the rockies were using un-humidored baseballs late in the games for the rockies’ batters. not that far out there considering how often they come from behind late in recent seasons…”

by essman on Sep 13, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe that is how the top of the seventh in the Phillies last game there happened— they brought out the wrong bag of balls!

j/k… Not a conspiracy theorist here.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Florida officially shur down Josh Johnson? On Yahoo he is not the scheduled starter for Wednesday game.

by PSUcup1 on Sep 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

He hasn’t been shut down for the season (yet), but he definitely will not start the Wednesday game.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks! hate to see anyone get hurt but its good for the Phils to miss him. they would be crazy to pitch him again this year!

by PSUcup1 on Sep 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

All the reports here in South Florida are that he’s done for the year

by wildcatlh on Sep 13, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought I heard that too.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

JRoll MRI concerning

Would Charlie please refrain from any future medical prognoses for his players? Seems to be bad luck.

by Nikk.m on Sep 13, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I really hate the fact that they listed him as day-to-day instead of doing the MRI right away.

by phatj on Sep 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

since he hasn’t done anything nor played, and the rosters are maxed out (ie DL time gains nothing) there’s really no point in DLing him and the MRI wouldn’t serve much purpose I don’t think, other than to confirm/dispell diagnoses which would’nt affect how they handled him.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the MRI results are....

Mild hamstring strain. Rollins will re-join the team tomorrow and is considered day to day.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So looking at the schedule..

Kendrick looks lined up to pitch 9/22 in Philadelphia against the Braves. Are you fucking serious? Ugh. I was hoping they could work Hamels/Halladay/Oswalt for both series, but I’d take Blanton over Kendrick.

by JamesFromPhilly on Sep 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

He isn’t going to pitch against the Braves.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

So why mention it?

by phatj on Sep 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

To point out that even if he does go, it is not necessailly an auto-loss.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing is ever an auto loss. That is why we watch the fucking game.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 13, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some teams will have that one pitcher they just struggle with. Tim Redding caused us problems that were grossly disproportionate to his ability relative to ours. Moyer often made the Marlins look like fools. I didn’t see anything exceptional in KK’s performances against the Braves to warrant such distinction esp. with so few appearances.

by j reed on Sep 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure how you came up with that. the way I see it:

Mon, 9/13 Blanton vs Florida
Tue, 9/14 Hamels vs Florida
Wed, 9/15 Doc vs Florida
Thur, 9/16 OFF DAY
Friday 9/17 Oswalt vs Nats
Sat 9/18 KK or Worley vs Nats
Sun 9/19 Blanton vs Nats
Mon 9/20 Hamels vs ATL
Tue 9/21 Doc vs ATL
Wed 9/22 Oswalt vs ATL

this gives Hamels and Doc an extra rest day and keeps Oswalt on regular 4 days rest!

by PSUcup1 on Sep 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kendrick’s “normal” turn would be to go on Friday, which would mean he would also go on Wednesday the 22nd. So if Charlie were to make no changes to the rotation despite having the off-day available to him, then Kendrick would pitch twice on the homestand. But Charlie obviously isn’t going to do that, it would be madness.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. I guess I should have said “not sure how any manager in their right mind would not shuffle the rotation a tiny bit, therefore preventing him KK from facing the Braves and getting him as few starts as absolutely necessary”.

Dear God Charlie better not eff this up!

by PSUcup1 on Sep 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t worry. Charlie has his faults, but an excessive love for Kyle Kendrick isn’t one of them.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

true…..although we’ve heard:

“He’s my closer”
“He’s my lead-off guy”

We’ve never heard…
“He’s my fifth starter.”

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a first for everything.

by Cormican on Sep 13, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ehh…he had a chance to say that last year with Moyer and didn’t. Starting pitching seems to be something that Chollie stays away from and lets the GM makes those choices.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

tweet from Todd Zolecki implies just that: “Rich Dubee said there’s a good chance Oswalt pitches Friday, which would allow Oswalt, Halladay and Hamels to face Braves next week.”

http://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/statuses/24412492911

by perfectdepth on Sep 13, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Look Now

But the Rockies are doing it again.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Sep 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully all those NL West teams will beat on each other, providing a comfortable margin for us in the WC should we fail to claim the division.

by Nikk.m on Sep 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This yellow and black steeler/yellow pages thing is irritating

by SportingFanaticism on Sep 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed. not a fan.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me neither!

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Could be worse, I could be the banner with McNabb imploring to buy Redskins tickets.

by Cormican on Sep 13, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

good clarification. You’d look might silly as a banner.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Life is hell.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Sep 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update on JRoll

From Murph’s blog: Mild Strain, will rejoin the team tomorrow.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/MRI_reveals_mild_strain_for_Rollins.html

 I guess that’s good news. I hope he gets back before the Braves series to tune up his swing before the big showdown.

by Nikk.m on Sep 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup. Here’s hoping that Rollins recovers quickly and that this lay off does not negatively affect his hitting.

by dannijd on Sep 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And a little love

for Kyle Lohse.

yay fifth column thang.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

aside from that Rockies playoff game, he’s been pretty good to the Phils.

by Bilzo on Sep 13, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true; Lohse beating Hudson was an unexpected but pleasant surprise.

I’d forgotten till I looked last night what his contract was: 4 years, $41 million. That should really drive home how great of a deal Blanton’s is — when Joe’s was signed, he was coming off a better season and had a far better track record.

by PhillyFriar on Sep 13, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point! People need to give Fat Joe his due. The man gets no respect in this town.

It seems like every other day that I hear or read some idiot lump him in with Kyle Kendrick as an indistinguishable two-headed “back of the rotation”. In fact, Blanton is a heckuva lot closer to the Big Three than he is to Kendrick in terms of both sheer quality and value per dollar (excepting Hamels from the latter).

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always use the old Adam Eaton argument to shoot those people down. Blanton gets paid less and is far more valuable to this team that your “typical” 4th or 5th starter signing.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Sep 13, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would almost be able to understand these folks’ inability to look past Blanton’s misleadingly high 2010 ERA if this was their first exposure to him. But it isn’t – he was solid for us for a year-and-a-half before this year even began. So what’s their excuse? It’s frustrating.

by taco pal on Sep 13, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, you mean the ERA and the WINZ!!!!! are not how you evaluate a pitcher

color them confuseled

by SportingFanaticism on Sep 13, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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