Some Phillies Links for You: September 14, 2010: Role-ing along, the P-word, GRIT and HUSTLE in Florida
The die is cast for Wilson Valdez: the season-ending double play, or the Bruntlettesque winning run of the WS.
Ryan Howard on Entourage. Is that what the kids are into these days? /old man who only watches baseball'd.
"K" You Very Much! Lowe Strikes Out 12, Braves Win 4-0 - Talking Chop
Damn you, Yunesky Maya!
Jimmy Rollins back in Phillies' fold...well, sort of
Ryan Lawrence with the injury updates, and the pitching rotation for the Braves' series.
Josh Johnson shut down? - Fish Stripes
We knew this yesterday, but a bit more exposition here, confirmed later, about this tremendous pitcher.
Rockies 4, Padres 6: Rockies' Winning Streak Ends at 10 Games
::Padres desperately cast about for another silver bullet::
Nothing doing for Yankees as Rays take 1st
A most extraordinary game in Florida, I mean, Tampa, with a change in the AL East leaderboard.
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the Big Piece was fine in his cameo but Drew Brees’ response was priceless.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
Just caught up on the season finale last night, Brees’ line was pretty good.
And I agree, Howard was just fine in that cameo. In fact, I wouldn’t have noticed that he said the clearly, DREADED, P-word if some dumbass article didn’t point it out. Let’s be real, Entourage is clearly not a kids show so whats the big deal?
Howard, Utley, Victorino
Are the leaders on the yahoo fantasy baseball “who’s hot”
by PhilliesPhan610 on Sep 14, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions
Valdez
I love this line in the Valdez article: “Before Monday night’s Marlins matchup-in-the-Miami-mausoleum, Valdez, whose name was on Charlie Manuel’s lineup card once again, had started 74 games. The Phils had won 40.”
What the article doesn’t say is that winning 40 of 74 is actually a worse winning percentage than the Phillies have generally. At the Phillies current winning percentage of .579, in 74 games they should win 43. Valdez’s “starting winning percentage” is only .541, significantly lower than the team’s overall winning percentage.
But he’s our MVP!
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Sep 14, 2010 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True. Valdez had the luck of starting during some of the worst periods for this team Slumpmas, the 2-6 Roadtrip, the Cerberez weeks. He missed out on playing much of the recent hot streak (which has re-affirmed what a force this team can be when healthy). That being said, I am glad Valdez is around… He is a decent bench player who plays Defense well.
by dannijd on Sep 14, 2010 9:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s the thing. It’s perfectly fine to talk about how he’s been valuable because he fills in at about replacement level offensively and plays good defense. But, I have no clue why there’s this need in some circles to elevate that to MVP.
by David S. Cohen on Sep 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Cracked me up last night when he fired that 90 mph bullet to Howard to end the game. Ryan’s reaction was priceless.
The dude can throw. Wonder if he can pitch.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Sep 14, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Finally. I’ve been saying this for two months. Can ’t hit, can bunt, has a canon for an arm- sounds like a pitcher.
Forget Joe Savery as our Kieschnick-esque end-of-the-bench guy… Exxon’s been right under our collective nose the whole time!
by PhillyFriar on Sep 14, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
my favorite of the daily round-up
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It is and yet I sort of don’t like it—I feel this is something that only fans should comment on. Don’t want to piss off those Marlins—they’re a touchy group.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Maybe. Like Josh writes, they see it too. Did you also see the part where the out-of-town scoreboard isn’t working anymore?
There are no “countdown” events at this stadium a la the Vet and Shea.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Watching the highlights last night was sad- all of those empty seats.
by dannijd on Sep 14, 2010 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
shoot
meant to write:
If you wanna be king, you gotta expect to be crowned.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Pathetic
“The Phils couldn’t even scoreboard-watch here. The out-of-town scoreboard that previously adorned the left-field wall was removed before this season because it was too costly for ownership to replace all of the broken lightbulbs. Instead, two massive advertisements for MLB Network now cover the wall.”
by David S. Cohen on Sep 14, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
just read this… wow that is scary sad. aren’t they putting in a new stadium? with such unnecessary items like: a giant fishtank instead of a backstop? yea… can’t afford the outta town scoreboard…
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Sep 14, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Marlins cheapness, dodgers disaster, cubs catastrophe
That’s what happens when you let previously crap owners back in the game or don’t take the highest bids cause you’re afraid said owners will spend too much.
When Bud is finally gone, to me one of his biggest legacies will be the way he selected owners (and convinced the owners to go along) for new teams partially by making sure they wouldn’t spend too much
by SportingFanaticism on Sep 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s amazing is how much it’s gonna cost to maintain those tanks throughout the year. And by year I don’t mean season, unless they plan to kill any fish that live past Sept.
I got a solid chuckle from that. Anyways, methinks a fish genocide wouldn’t be good for PR purposes.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 14, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup- aquariums are not cheap to maintain- particularly in sunny places— algae love it! I am amazed that a team as cheap as the marlins would put in such an expensive to maintain feature.
by dannijd on Sep 14, 2010 12:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No countdown events here! The Marlins must be working out of trailers now and gunning the engine waiting to decamp.
As this recession drags on I think it will be a real drag on cash-poor franchises and you will likely see more of this facility stuff break down, as municipalities won’t competitively bid because no city or state has money to lure franchises anymore.
The Phillies were really blessed to peak when they have. It’s like blood doping on mile 20 of a marathon.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
also, too bad the entire thing isn’t closing. Imagine how you could totally hacksaw entire rows of seats out of there a la Connie Mack’s final days.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the movie major League where then team owner Roger Dorn turns the outfield walls into the yellow pages
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
~Thomas Jefferson
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 14, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
You can see the out-of-town scores on the ribbon display that wraps around the stadium (as it’s been since this went down in April), and ownership in that sentence refers to Stephen Ross/the Dolphins, as the Marlins are just tenants they’re reluctantly allowing to stay an extra year.
Is Loria a pathetic cheapskate? For sure.
Is this a good example? Nah.
Uh-oh...
K-Rod’s in more trouble.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5571066
Best comment in that thread so far:
Meet the Mets, meet the Mets,
Step right up and greet the Mets.
Bring your kiddies, bring your wife (lol),
Guaranteed to have the time of your life.
Because the Mets are really sockin’ their father in-laws,
Knockin’ those home runs over the wall.
East side, West side, everybody’s coming down,
To meet the M-E-T-S Mets, of New York correctional facility.
Burke Badenhop is currently penciled in as the Marlins starter for tonight’s game. With no Josh Johnson and apparently no one to call up, they are doing a bullpen start tonight.
The best thing about Tim Tebow is his former roommate.
Where did you see that?
AtBat still has Mendez starting tonight with Badenhop going tomorrow.
by dannijd on Sep 14, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
man… they’re going John Rocker on Talkingchop. Ryan Howard’s a “douche,” he’s “gay” and Phillies fans are “a-holes.” You really don’t see much of that stuff here. It’s sad. I seriously cannot wait until we play them.
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/9/14/1687750/atlanta-braves-postseason-pace
Not even worth bothering, since it’s just one guy.
I will say though, I don’t get where the dislike for Howard comes from. I can see plenty of reasons for hating plenty of my favorite teams’ players over the years, but Howard… I just don’t see it.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 14, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hasn’t he done really well against them over the years? Probably has something to do with it—it’s just irrational hatred. I have that for a few players myself, although I would never resort to racial or homophobic slurs.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
agreed.
Ryan is normally one of the calmest, enjoy the game, have fun guys you’ll see. He doesn’t seem to talk trash a lot, or showboat. You don’t ever see him watch a homer ball. I don’t get it.
I’m not a fan of Chipper’s, but I acknowledge he’s a good player. I detested Andruw, which wasn’t his fault, but mostly due to his anointedness as Willie Mays II in CF by Braves announcers, and he seemed to loaf it once in a while. I don’t think of either of them as thugs or jerks though, I don’t know them personally, and have never seen them in the police blotter.
Oh, Howard definitely pimps the homerun ball. I don’t think he doesn’t much other than that, however.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I have a hard time getting worked up when any player admires their own work. If I could hit the ball that far, I’d damn sure watch it the whole way out too.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
Well that’s obvious, but it also gives you not a leg to stand on, you’re just as bad as they are.
by SportingFanaticism on Sep 14, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so Ryan Howard is code for “Jeff Francoeur.”
Kidding! Plus, Frenchy is not gay. No gay man would wear lucky moose underwear.
Meh, let the haters hate. I kinda like Talking Chop and some of their features, like, “Stuff Read in Other Moms’ Basements.”
Agreed with PF. I can’t hate Heyward. He’s a helluva player. A .400 OBP (which, remember, is “unteacheable”) during a rookie season has me rightfully fearful about the rest of this decade.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If everyone hates your team, it means they are doing something right. That’s how I look at it.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I still prefer some delineation here. The Phillies are certainly my team and it would take a lot of Michael Vick-like moves for them to push me away. I don’t ever want to be someone who’s drunk on pinstriped-Kool-Aid (no matter how kool that drink would look), and would prefer to call the Phils out on their mistakes rather than rush in to defend blindly just because some young homophobic buck with a keyboard spouts slurs. I’ve had enough of that Interwebz life when philaphans was around. Gimme ideas, numbers, analysis, funny links, poetry even.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think any Phillies fan would blindly defend another for racial/homophobic slurs on this site.
And my comment was not really in the Yankees vein; it was more directed to those that would make comments totally based out of irrational hatred. Bottom line: those people are jealous of something or another.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I took “they are doing something right” to mean winning which the Yankees are good at and now so are we.
Oh, I saw where you were coming from but I think WL and others see “Yankees fan” and think Pinstripe Alley and all those kool-aid drinking neanderthals and how we never want to turn out like them.
I think it would take the Philly fanbase a LONG time to get to that point, but there are a lot of, shall we say, “newer” fans that might be more prone to the kool-aid elixir.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Okay. I’ve never ventured over to Pinstripe Alley to sample the wine. I’m a homer. I don’t stray to far from TGP or BSH.
I did, after the second game in the Yankees series this year- they were apoplectic and wants to DFA half the lineup. They made Phillies phans look loyal.
by dannijd on Sep 14, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
point well-taken. doubleh has me pretty well pegged. It’s kind of a knee-jerk thing with me that got cemented after I read a story after game 6 that lamented the lack of a game 7 in NYC because the YANKEES WON THE WORLD SERIES. Not over it yet. PTSD.
Don’t mean to imppugn you all.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the same bigoted fuck who was calling Ryan Howard a “thug” last week. Strangely, some other posters on TC came to defend him when I called him out on it.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 14, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you just have to be careful with the playing of the race card (IMHO…you have an itchy trigger finger on that). I’m not going to say that guy wasn’t, but I think you jumped the gun on calling him out. You should’ve tried to tease it out of him a little more, then pounced. It would’ve given you more credence and possible got them to turn on him.
Thinking back to that conversation, I don’t think I jumped too quickly. (And by the way, I hate this “race card” term, but that’s beside the point.) If they weren’t getting on him after the initial comment, then they never would. Because even aside from the “thug” thing, the rest of the comment was completely idiotic as well.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
sadtrombone.com
weren’t they on this board a while back when the braves were in first? funny how that works isn’t it…?
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Sep 14, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Did we not learn anything?
The die is cast for Wilson Valdez: the season-ending double play

Tears on the Tikki, Outs on the Ground.
I think the author kind of answers his own question there. Basically: Brown may not be hurt, but why risk it?
We want him to get PT, but we’re now at the point of the year where the minor league season is over. We no longer have a choice between Brown sitting on the Phils’ bench or playing in AAA. We have a choice between Brown sitting on the Phils’ bench or resting at home. So having him sit on the bench doesn’t bother me as much anymore, especially where there’s even a slight question of whether he’s healthy.
Seems like it, which kind of sucks since I was writing something about SBN versus the rest of the blogosphere, not to be I guess
by SportingFanaticism on Sep 14, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we don’t need an intra-blog war.
It was certainly interesting to read though.
by philsandthrills on Sep 14, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

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