This Week's Pitching Probables (Sept. 17-22)
Here are the probable pitching matchups for the next week's worth of games, including the home half of our long-awaited six-game showdown with the Braves.
| Day | Pitcher | G | GS | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BABIP | GB% | LD% | FB% | HR/FB | ERA | FIP | xFIP | SIERA |
| Friday | Oswalt | 29 | 29 | 192.2 | 8.13 | 2.38 | 0.89 | .263 | 45.1 | 18.0 | 36.9 | 9.8% | 2.94 | 3.43 | 3.51 | 3.39 |
| Marquis | 10 | 10 | 46.1 | 4.27 | 4.08 | 1.55 | .306 | 51.6 | 18.0 | 30.4 | 16.3% | 6.60 | 6.14 | 5.34 | 5.13 | |
| Saturday | Kendrick | 30 | 28 | 163.1 | 4.13 | 2.48 | 1.43 | .288 | 44.3 | 17.0 | 38.7 | 11.9% | 4.85 | 5.11 | 4.86 | 4.97 |
| Zimm. | 4 | 4 | 17.0 | 8.47 | 4.24 | 1.59 | .289 | 42.9 | 12.2 | 44.9 | 13.6% | 5.29 | 5.10 | 4.57 | 4.09 | |
| Sunday | Blanton | 25 | 25 | 154.2 | 6.63 | 2.15 | 1.34 | .336 | 42.9 | 18.3 | 38.8 | 11.6% | 5.00 | 4.33 | 4.15 | 4.08 |
| Maya | 2 | 2 | 11.0 | 4.09 | 4.09 | 0.82 | .257 | 37.8 | 27.0 | 35.1 | 7.7% | 6.55 | 5.00 | 5.43 | 5.65 | |
| Monday | Hamels* | 30 | 30 | 194.2 | 9.29 | 2.59 | 1.11 | .296 | 45.0 | 17.2 | 37.8 | 12.3% | 3.01 | 3.62 | 3.38 | 3.12 |
| Jurrjens | 20 | 20 | 116.1 | 6.65 | 3.25 | 1.01 | .307 | 39.9 | 18.1 | 41.9 | 8.8% | 4.64 | 4.20 | 4.49 | 4.38 | |
| Tuesday | Halladay | 31 | 31 | 234.2 | 8.05 | 1.07 | 0.88 | .306 | 51.5 | 19.0 | 29.5 | 11.6% | 2.49 | 3.01 | 2.89 | 2.88 |
| Minor* | 7 | 7 | 37.0 | 9.97 | 3.24 | 0.27 | .240 | 36.1 | 13.9 | 50.0 | 9.3% | 5.84 | 3.45 | 3.68 | 2.98 | |
| Wednesday | Oswalt | 29 | 29 | 192.2 | 8.13 | 2.38 | 0.89 | .263 | 45.1 | 18.0 | 36.9 | 9.8% | 2.94 | 3.43 | 3.51 | 3.39 |
| Hanson | 30 | 30 | 178.0 | 7.89 | 2.53 | 0.66 | .304 | 40.0 | 16.5 | 43.5 | 5.9% | 3.54 | 3.36 | 4.11 | 3.70 |
As you can see, things are looking downright rosy for us. Of course, nobody should be counting their chickens, as short stretches of games in baseball are controlled as much by luck as they are by skill and talent. But, it is appropriate to feel optimistic, because the probabilities are clearly on our side. The Phillies' starters have definitive advantages over their likely opponents in five of the next six games, plus there's the fact that the Phillies' offense is superior to either the Nationals' or the Braves'.
The Braves series, in particular, lines up about as perfectly as any of us could have hoped. The Braves' rotation is pretty decent, albeit inferior to ours, but the Phillies will be throwing their best three out there while the Braves, to put it delicately, will not. Jair Jurrjens, in particular, is their weakest link: an average pitcher who has really been struggling lately. In addition, while Mike Minor is a serious talent with a chance to develop into a very good pitcher very soon, asking him to pitch a game of this magnitude in his eighth career start is asking an awful lot.
But it's precisely when the odds are most strongly in one's own favor that success is the most imperative. It's important to seize this opportunity now because the nine games that will remain on the Phils' schedule after this week will probably feature less advantageous matchups. So the appropriate goal for this week is not to hold off the Braves, but to step on their throats and bury them. Sweep them out, break their backs, and knock them completely out of the playoff picture altogether.
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Thanks to this post we'll go 0-6
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
ooooh, a jinx!
but the Nats have the ghost of John Wilkes Booth against them!
Whose jinx is stronger?!?
I looked at that and said We could go 6&0 be 6+ games up in the division and put the Braves in the rearview. Than I realised that baseball is a funny game…. I perdict that the Phillies will be no hit 3 times when Halladay / Hamels / Oswalt are on the mound with one of them being a 10 inning perfect game going against Hamels.
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 16, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
notes on the nats starters
Marquis’s stats are probably a bit misleading. He got rocked early in the year but was probably pitching hurt then, as he went on the DL immediately afterward. Since returning, he’s pitched… well, he actually was still pitching terribly at first, but he’s been much better in his last couple of starts.
Zimmermann was a pretty big prospect a year ago, but was shelved with Tommy John. He still has a good chance to turn into a good pitcher. So he’s not a Jorge Sosa or anything. He has real talent, and that might turn out to be a difficult matchup for us. For whatever it’s worth, Kyle Kendrick has horrible career numbers against virtually every current member of the Nationals in small, unmeaningful sample sizes.
Maya is pretty much the quintessential unknown quantity. 29-year-old Cuban defector. I honestly don’t know a thing about him.
Voodoo is Haitian yo.
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Sep 16, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Cerrano was, in all likelihood, actually a practitioner of Santeria, not Voodoo (although those are arguably just two different names for the same belief system). However, you were accurate in quoting Lou Brown’s and the GM’s dialogue about the subject. I don’t think there is a contradiction here, as it may not have been the intent of the screenwriter to suggest that Lou Brown necessarily had a firm understanding of what he was talking about.
by taco pal on Sep 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s an old joke and I’m tired of it. The only reason why it seems like the Phillies do badly against these pitchers is that it sticks in our minds more than usual. I’m sure the fans of every other team think the exact same thing about their teams.
You could say this about any deficiency, really. Most people only follow one team closely, so a broader perspective cannot realistically be expected. I know I overreact to trivial things sometimes.
Yeah I know. It isn’t the most egregious fallacy known to man. It’s just that any joke tends to get unfunny when you hear it 87 times, particularly when the premise of the joke isn’t even right.
what? That I would wait for something to occur before deciding whether or not it worked?
That’s pretty much how it goes. Dry labbing is the bad.
correct.
which is why I’m sure TP views this as an easy argument, because if the Phils bash that guy it’ll be “i told you so” and if they get hitophobia it’ll be “small sample size”.
kinda like Boise in an alliance bowl game. If they lose they didn’t deserve to be there, if they win it’s because the other team was aiming for a championship and didn’t really care about the game.
whatevs. it’s really not that important.
Or, you could actually run the analysis you outline below. As someone said once, the rest of us are not your research assistants.
when you say things like “That’s an old joke and I’m tired of it. The only reason why it seems like the Phillies do badly against these pitchers is that it sticks in our minds more than usual. I’m sure the fans of every other team think the exact same thing about their teams.”
I’d expect you to have some facts to back it up rather than just dismissing what other people say. If that is not the case, than your rebuttal is as lame as you claim my statement is.
I thought trolls just asked for goats?
See TP…here’s the difference in our way of thinking/dealing with others…
If I were you, and the comment about losing to nobody’s angered me, I’d say something along the lines of “I really don’t think that’s the case, it just seems that way as the bad offense nights against those guys are annoying and more remembered”.
Instead you call it an old joke which annoys you.
Oh well.
oh…and if the research has been done, please direct me to it.
I’d expect it to show:
Phils vs pitchers in their first 5 or so career starts vs how other teams do against pitchers in their first 5 or so career starts over the past five years, as the core of this team (utley/rollins/howard/vic/ruiz) has been mostly stable during that time.
Don’t really know what to make of Maya yet — I guess he was a solid enough gamble for the Nats at $8 million, but I wasn’t overly impressed with the scouting profiles I saw when he defected, and neither his minor league nor PitchFX numbers have done much to change my mind. He’ll mix four pitches (fastball, slider, curve, change) with his heater topping out in the low-90s at this point, with a lot of high-80s readings thrown in. Neither the Braves nor Mets had many problems with him, for what it’s worth.
Zimmermann has had some command problems in his recovery, but that’s to be expected for any TJ patient. I really like him a lot going forward — I think he’ll be a hell of a Robin to Strasburg’s Batman as that organization comes together — but it remains to be seen how he’ll do in the short-term. He’s definitely very talented, though, and easily makes that the worst matchup we face in the next six games.
important to note that as awesome as it to have the big three lined up against the braves, it’s not like it’s a guaranteed sweep. 2 of 3 would be a great outcome. with halladay in a game, the phillies have about a 10% increase in their odds of winning versus an average game, and about 5% for hamels and oswalt. the phillies odds for those games will probably be between 55-70% for each game. two out of three would be great all the same, as nice as sweeping sounds.
Yes, my point was attitudinal. While the goal of every series is obviously on some level to sweep, varying degrees of priority can be placed on that goal. I just don’t want to hear anyone associated with the team say “As long as we win the series, we’ll have done well.” That may be technically true, but a sweep is much more within reach than it would normally be vs. Atlanta, and I want them to go for it.
When you reply to a comment, it’s important to read and understand the entire comment first. I shouldn’t really have to elaborate on this since I already anticipated the point in my earlier comment, but I’ll do it anyway.
It is standard human behavior in all pursuits to set one’s goals at a difficult but realistic level. When one is in school, one typically does not visualize getting a 4.0 for the next semester, even though on some level that is always one’s goal every semester. Rather, normally, one only visualizes a 4.0 where the courses are manageable enough for that to be a reasonable expectation. By the same token, if, say, one is a 3.3 student, one does not visualize getting a 3.3 in the next semester either. Instead, you visualize something better and more difficult to achieve than your median outcome (a 3.5 or 3.7 or what have you).
Does visualizing and setting expectations in this manner actually help you to achieve the goals you set? Maybe, maybe not – who knows? But (1) this is what people usually do, and (2) there is certainly nothing wrong with doing it that way. So, if you’re going to be doing this anyway, you might as well base your goals on the right factual predicates.
A baseball player tries to win every game he plays, just as he tries to get on base every time he comes up to bat. So on some level, yes every player “goes for a sweep” in every series, just as every batter “goes for a 1.000 batting average” in every game. But that doesn’t mean these are goals that one consciously visualizes. Doing so would be abnormal because those goals are unrealistic. People generally do not visualize goals that they know they are going to fail to achieve 95+ percent of the time.
But occasionally, you do consciously visualize those more difficult goals, because the circumstances are such that they are more achievable than usual. When the Phillies have a series coming up against a team with a losing record, they surely visualize different goals than they do when they have a series against a team with a winning record.
The Braves are not the Pirates – they are a good team even when Jair Jurrjens is on the mound. But because of the pitching matchups, a sweep is more achievable in this series than it would normally be against a team with a .565 winning percentage. Therefore, a sweep should leave the realm of hypothetical wishes and should instead be considered a very achievable goal that’s right in our grasp, just as it is when we go up against a lesser team without the Big Three. Again, whether that attitude will actually help achieve anything is unknowable. Regardless, it is the attitude that the team would normally have in a series with odds like what they are here.
by taco pal on Sep 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Aka
Aim for perfection
Obtain excellence
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 16, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
This is really shaping up to be another great September, and I am really very excited. A sweep of the Braves would be great, and I concur that we have the pitching match-ups to do so. As irrelevant and meaningless as it probably is, Jurrjens does seem to pitch well against the Phillies, and has the numbers to back it up (couldn’t find more advanced numbers): 2.56 ERA, 1.022 WHIP, with a .190 BA against and a .592 OPS against. On the other hand, he does have a ridiculously low BABIP ( .200) and this is a rather small sample size (59.2 IP). Meaningless most likely, but still it’d be annoying to have him pitch like that in this series. Plus, I’ve seen the Phils lose to him twice, which sucked. Can’t wait for tomorrow, finally get to see a game on TV for the first time since August.

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