Some Phillies Links For You, September 21, 2010: Cole Glow, Jimmy Limps Again
by WholeCamels on Sep 21, 2010 8:09 AM EDT
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PrintRollins optimistic, but not sure he'll be healthy for playoffs
Just wanted to pee in everyone's Cheerios really quick.
Werth switches agents to un-Phillies-friendly Scott Boras
I wonder if anyone really even cares about the J.D. Drew thing anymore, besides the fans.
Frank: Charlie Manuel's livin' the dream
Hamels lasted eight innings. He has given up just two earned runs in his past 39 2/3 innings -- spanning five starts -- for an ERA of 0.45. He has a 1.74 ERA over his past 14 starts, dating back to July 11.
Good Lord.
Stan Hochman: MLB picks South Philly's Anderson rec center for Urban Youth Academy
I'm pretty excited about this, it's my old neighborhood.
On deck for Halladay: 20 wins and a place in Phillies history
This would be a cool achievement, but I'm sure Halladay is just more concerned about winning the postseason.
Phillies vs. Braves: Big Play X-ray | Philadelphia Daily News
I kind of like this feature.
Rich Hofmann: 'Wanting to' explains Phillies' torrid second half
If only it were that easy.
Paul Hagen: Lidge getting to be dependable again for Phillies
I kind of feel creepy saying it, but it's true.
Rockies' humidor system has a few skeptics
In a May game in Philadelphia, the Rockies caught Phillies bullpen coach Mick Billmeyer using binoculars to steal signs, a violation. MLB ordered Billmeyer to ditch the binoculars during games.
Well I'll be damned, they proved this?
Hamels transforms into a prime mover - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
In reading all these articles, I'm getting the impression that Cole Hamels was awful last season.
The700Level.com - The Phillie Phanatic and Derek Jeter Star in New ESPN SportsCenter Commercial
I kind of like the thought of the Phanatic doing "down there" with Jeter's razor.
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The Jeter-Phanatic Commercial
That was pretty awesome and I totally agree WC.
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I kind of like the thought of the Phanatic doing “down there” with Jeter’s razor.
This is the best link comment I’ve seen since my own, “Save slips Wagner $5, says hopefully, ‘Same time tomorrow?’”
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutely. I’m the pimp for my own prostitution-themed comments.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely. Though I have to give Jeter some credit here. He showed some chops in delivering his lines. Not all athletes do.
What makes the commercial though (apart from the flashing) is Phanatic’s subtle head-nod when he walks past and Jeter says “sup?” Perfectly executed.
Also, I don’t know exactly what’s so funny about the Phanatic de-toweling and just being “one of the guys” in the locker room, but it definitely adds a comedic element.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 21, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Phrozen on Sep 21, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Red man is going viral. I assume he got his inspiration from Green men (you tube linky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXUUiK5IMNo&feature=player_embedded
In a May game in Philadelphia, the Rockies caught Phillies bullpen coach Mick Billmeyer using binoculars to steal signs, a violation. MLB ordered Billmeyer to ditch the binoculars during games.
You know, I was going to suggest that maybe Mick Billmeyer was just making sure the Rockies were using humidor balls, but then I remembered that the sign stealing incident took place IN Philadelphia, so obviously that didn’t happen. I always thought we had a bullpen camera for that, but I guess not.
Yeah. The article says that Billmeyer was accused of sign stealing in Philadelphia, so I teased that and alluded to the Mets accusations of a bullpen camera.
by Baseball Nerd on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
So Mike Minor’s hometown is Chapel Hill, Tennessee, and attended high school at the Forrest School, which is named after another famous person from that town. Hint: it isn’t Forest Whitaker.
Wow, he’s from the same town as Forrest Gump?
by Spoilt Victorian Child on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Charming indeed.
There’s an unforgettable quote that historian Shelby Foote shares on Ken Burns’ Civil War documentary regarding Forrest. He tells the story of how he had the opportunity to meet with Forrest’s granddaughter, I believe it was, and how he told her that in his opinion, the Civil War had produced two real geniuses: Abraham Lincoln, and her grandfather. To which she replied, seriously, “Well, we never though much of Mr. Lincoln in our family.”
It’s equal parts deserving of a chuckle and completely cringe worthy, especially given that it was uttered a century after the Civil War (and slavery) had ended.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of things that took place a century after the Civil War ended, I wonder if that’s the historical name of the school, or if it was changed to that after Brown v Board as an “eff you” to the Feds. I know that happened in other places in the South in the 50s and 60s.
Not sure. I like this though, from their website:
Mission Statement:
The mission of Forrest School is to assist each student in developing to his or her highest potential.
This institution in its employment of personnel and in its educational activities with students does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, or disabilities.
Ding ding ding.
Forrest’s virtues as a military innovator are unquestioned, and I’m always reluctant to make sweeping judgments of individuals from different eras under the whole “It’s usually unfair to impose modern morality on those of the past” rationale. That’s why I don’t even feel terribly strongly about use of the Confederate flag nowadays, because while the racial component is there, it’s possible to legitimately say that the flag is a symbol that honors those who fell defending their Southern homeland, yada yada.
But even in my reluctance to rush to judgment, I can emphatically say that there’s no way that honoring a man who massacred surrendered troops and started the KKK should happen in the 21st century, whatever his other virtues. Seems pretty cut and dry to me, and I can’t imagine many on here disagreeing.
/end rant
In my limited experience, I have found that even many Southern racially progressive whites are somewhat unfond of Lincoln. Though I doubt that Forrest’s granddaughter fell into this category anyway.
It’s pretty much the same people who refer to it as “the war of Northern aggression”, as oppossed to the Civil War.
See, that’s the thing. I’ve found that even the folks who don’t have disreputable beliefs still dislike Lincoln.
It’s complicated, but they view it as a states rights issue and not a slave ownership issue. In the mid-1800’s the North was becoming industrialized and was, generally, wealthier, more populous and entirely different, culturally, from the south. A lot of Southerners viewed the Civil War as the North forcing its values and will on the South. For them Slavery was a secondary issue (the vast majority of Southerners didn’t own slaves and Forest may have been one of the very few slave owners who actually fought in the Civil War).
It’s a retarded belief, but it is what it is.
State's Rights
Such as the right to own slaves.
by Phrozen on Sep 21, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
State's Rights
Such as the right to own slaves.
by Phrozen on Sep 21, 2010 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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I moved from Philly to Northern VA sometime in the ’80’s when that part of VA was still considered the real South. We didn’t take the day off from school for Presidents Day – it was George Washington Day , all on account of Lincoln sharing center stage with Mr. Washington. We also celebrated Lee-Jackson – King Day. Before you ask in bewilderment, yes that’s King as in Martin Luther and yes that’s Jackson, as in Stonewall, not to be confused with Luther P. Jackson, who headed the History Department at Virginia State College in Petersburg, founded the Negro Voters League of Virginia and for whom the middle school I went to was named, a school which I found out hadn’t been racially integrated until 1965. Since 2000 however signs of progress! Now, at the very least the two holidays, are celebrated separately as Lee-Jackson Day and Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. Hee – Fucking -Haw!
(I do not really think someone named a school after Forrest Gump.)
Although I guess the reality isn’t much better.
by Spoilt Victorian Child on Sep 21, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Sentences like these are standard-issue for articles about Scott Boras, but I just don’t understand them:
Boras is notorious for making sure his clients get top dollar on the open market.
He’s “notorious” for doing his job?
Agreed that I kind of like that new big play x-ray thing, WC… although, this quote was mildly disappointing, no?
THE QUOTE: Braves’ manager Bobby Cox: “It was windy as hell out there and that ball was smoked. I think it knuckled on him out there.”
Damnit, Boby Cox, you’re supposed to slam CBP at every opportunity. You should have said that he lost it in the lights (as the Braves announcers apparently did) and then blamed the placement of the lights in the ballpark.
Funny… Interestingly, I kind of agree with Cox. I’m kind of surprised they scored it an error.
by Boundforbeach on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I thought he misjudged it and was at full extension.
by Vaughn Haze on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
But if he doesn’t put a glove on it at all, there’s a better likelihood that it’s a double rather than a triple, so at least one base was error’d. It is the downside risk of being speedy.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Deflecting a ball to yield extra base(s) doesn’t have to be an error. This guy didn’t get one:
by Vaughn Haze on Sep 21, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Marian Anderson
Is my new neighborhood. The field there is in great condition as it sits now, I can only imagine how much nicer it will be with $3 million!
Sounds like it might make parking even worse than it already is though :-(
That "wanting to" article
I hate explanations like that (shocker). Columnists are always looking for a special angle that the regular fan can’t see. That’s why they say that Valdez or Ruiz are the team MVPs. Or that “wanting to” is what makes the team win. They don’t want to write what your average 3rd grader can write, which is actually the truth – this team is winning because it has a devastating front-3, a lights-out bullpen, and an offense that does more than is needed to give that combination enough runs.
But that explanation is too easy for a columnist who has to show that he deserves his job, so he writes about “the little things” or obscure players just to show that he knows more than you do. But he doesn’t.
I actually think this post from a while back is one of the best things I’ve written on this site. We see it over and over and over.
by David S. Cohen on Sep 21, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
It’s Pimp Yer Own on TGP today (kidding – hey, and I started it)!
It’s human nature – justifying those long hours at the ballpark to say, “Chief, that Wilson Valdez at bat in the fourth inning was key to the entire game! And if I wasn’t there to appreciate it and write about it, thousands of fans would be the poorer for it!”
It is also easier in the lockerroom to swim against the salmon’d reporter horde and talk to players no one is talking to.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 21, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, it does still raise the question of why the Phillies have improved so much during the course of the season and why they’re playing so far over their heads in September. Of course, the answers to those questions aren’t “wanting to” either. They’re (1) a combination of Oswalt and health, and (2) probably random variance.
September, and August, and the last week of July (42-15, or .737). It’s always intteresting to me how the timing of streaks changes the entire complexion of a season. If the Phillies had started the year 42-15 and were now only 4 games ahead, the story would be about how they are on the verge of a historic collapse.
Very true
The hypothetical you suggested is very similar to what happened in 1976, when the memory of the historic 1964 collapse was still fresh and unhealed. The ‘76 team started 40-17 and chugged into the 3/4 mark at 82-41 with a 15 1/2 game lead! 17 games later the team was 85-55 and only 4 games ahead of the Pirates. And the story was definitely all about another historic collapse. Instead, the team rattled off a 16-6 finish, the lead never dipped below 3 , and the Pirates ended up 9 games behind. Given the way baseball is followed today vs. in 1976 I daresay a similar collapse would cause widespread paranoia and depression, and the team on the field would be under an intense pressure that would make Gene Mauch’s headaches seem like first-grade reading.
by phillyinportland on Sep 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
seems pretty irresponsible on MLBs & the Rockies part to not have an MLB official transport the baseballs from the humidor to the field. They are just setting themselves up for this type of accusation by not doing it…
MLB gave them a team with out much forethought to how much the altitude effects the flight of the ball – what makes you think they’d be smart enough to do somthing like what you suggested?
In actuality I recall there being a lot of discussion about the altitude at the time the team was awarded. It’s more that they didn’t care. It was a market where money was to be made, and they figured they would deal.
Well then that makes it worse esp. on the part of MLB to allow it. The problem isn’t so much the batted ball which effects both teams but on the the pitcher. Denver’s altitude reduces a baseball’s lift coefficient by 66 percent which means fastballs fly straighter, and off speed pitches break less. So while both teams will have equal advantage in terms of batted balls, the same may not hold for pitching – their pitchers are afforded ample time to adjust their grips and release points to compensate for the effects on the lift-coefficient whereas the visiting pitcher are not. How that advantage plays out of course depends on the quality of their pitchers and the visitors, but the possiblity exists that extreme environmental conditions against which visiting team may not reasonably adjust to, can give the Rockies hurlers an unfair advantage.
So
It was not proven that they were stealing signs right? The article is still just making assumptions.
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