Some Phillies Links For You, September 3, 2010: Attack on Denver, Savage Philly Brutes, Free Tyson
by WholeCamels on Sep 3, 2010 8:19 AM EDT
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This is one of the most woebegone articles ever written. O NOES.
Dear Philadelphia Phillies (A Rockies Eulogy)
Awwwww, what's the matter, sweetie? Seriously, what a schmuck.
Galvis' glove helps R-Phils go out in style
You expected his bat? Wait, what?
Paul Hagen: Phillies have playoff pieces in place | Philadelphia Daily News
Pretty much agree witchoo, Paul.
Two behind Braves, Phils get crack at Capuano
Please, score a jillion runs tonight.
Tyson Gillies Pleads Innocent To Cocaine Charges - SB Nation Philly
Well, I'd only object to the "complete bomb" comment in light of the fact that he was injured basically all season.
Cole Hamels on the Cy Young Award Ballot?
It's a bit much to expect any significant number of voters to look at DIPS (FIP, SIERA, etc.) when casting their ballots. That said, if Hamels has a great September, and a couple of the current leaders falter, he might sneak into the top five, but that's it.
Phillies focus on winning division - The Denver Post
Seriously, Colorado, the Wild Card is for nurds.
Mets 4, Braves 2: All Your Braves Are Belong To Us - Amazin' Avenue
It's nice to see that Johan Santana and the Mets are good for something other than golf course shenanigans.
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“Just like last year, charging in to dash our hopes with your veteran band of overpaid sluggers.”
Um, what? And…
“Sweep through on your way to another playoff run where Charlie Manuel will somehow cobble together a pitching staff with recycled specialists and rubber cement.”
I guess Cole Hamels is the recycled specialist, and Roy Halladay would be the rubber cement?
Weird post. Even gets in a CBP jab (a Rockies fan) and works in some contrast between the Phillies payroll and the Rockies’ collection of “home-grown talent,” as if the two are mutually exclusive. I know that was a gut-punch loss from their perspective, but sheesh.
yea he also called us the NL second largest payroll like that has been true for a long time… there is only one response suitable to his letter… Waaaaah
yea he also called us the NL second largest payroll…
…at “142K” (and I don’t normally like to point out typos, but come on).
Also, I’d think that losing 2 of 3 to the Giants is far more of a death knell than losing a makeup game to the Phils, but hell, what do I know.
You’d think they’d hate the Giants more than the Phils, but whatevs.
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Right. And it’s not like we’re not “even” between 2007 and 2009 at this point.
I’d assume it’s just one fan after a frustrated loss is all.
Still, the whole article is almost concertedly passive aggressive. After building this huge Empire Strikes Back style revenge narrative, the guy just wants Rockies fans to show the Philly goons up by being respectful in victory. I hate the facile fan base = fan syllogism that creates fan stereotypes to begin with, but to mobilize that in the interest of a “shame them with our patented Colorado patience” plan is just self-aggrandizing and irritating.
That’s not even bringing up the money fallacy. Yes, the Phillies have a high payroll, and yes, that’s a tremendous advantage, but you’d have to add another hundred million plus to shelter them from mistakes. The Ryan Howard contract — which I’m ambivalent on — if it does come back to bite the team, will be a financial anchor, despite the 142M number.
Thanks! The conflation of fan and fanbase behavior has always bugged the hell out of me. An individually ideological investment in the behavior of millions of strangers — whether that investment defines you or who you “hate” — is just unhealthy.
by Trev223 on Sep 3, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
It’s kind of why I try to avoid doing blanket “Braves fans _” “Mets fans ______” because it’s a pretty short step from that to outright bigotry.
There are many thousands of good, decent Braves and Mets fans (it’s true!).
http://www.thegoodphight.com
This
I’ve had this argument with my Pittsburgh fan friends so many times and for some reason they just don’t get it. All Philly fans are the same and they are evil. Then I say, “But I’m a Philly fan,” to which they reply, “Well, you’re different.”
I’ve heard this exact same argument with regard to race. It is outright bigotry when you think you are superior to another group of people and for largely incorrect/perceived notions.
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I think it boils down to laziness. Stereotypes are easy. A lot of people ignore reality because it spares them from having to formulate an honest opinion. It’s definitely a shame.
Exactly. Prejudice is the Lean Cuisine TV Dinner of thinking. A pre-made opinion that saves people from having to use their brains.
by Cormican on Sep 3, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for truth
I think I may use this in the future. I will credit you fully.
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That sounded like the arguments my grandparents used to make regarding their friends of different ethnicities (But they’re different!).
Back to baseball, I am called out constantly in my workplace due to my Philly fandom – it’s quite often sheer projection of their own frustration that the only decent team in DC are the Caps, and many of the DC folks I know are only mild hockey fans at best. If I had a dollar for every time I am blamed for whatever perceived sins of Philly fandom – and take your pick for whatever cliche’ you can think of (batteries, booing Santa, et cetera), I could retire from teaching.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I like that no matter how good our team is on the field, opposing teams take swipes at our ballpark and our fans for no real reason other than they can’t sell out their stadium to keep us out of there!
and in regards to the overpaid roster vs their homegrown talent…i would say a majority of our roster is homegrown talent (but we’ve had to sign them to big bucks to keep them) with utley, hamels, howard, rollins, ruiz, kendrick, madson, and i’ll even count victorino and werth as reclaimation projects.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
woebegone
Rockies fans can now throw a copy of The Dark Baseball Musings of Troy E. Renck into the backpack that carries a bottle of Jack Daniels, a straight razor, and the picture of the girl/boy who broke their hearts for their lonely trek to the laundromat on Christmas Eve.
I think that was the saddest game recap I’ve ever read.
Oh, I’m having a bit of fun, but I did really enjoy the article. And Renck writes some very nice turns of phrase(s) that make my poetic heart go pitterpat. To wit:
In the end, the scoreboard suggested that fans probably expected too much this season. The Rockies were supposed to win the National League West for the first time ever. Yet they couldn’t win Thursday when it mattered most, their nerves frayed and playoff dreams splintered after a numbing 12-11 defeat.
This second graph is truly excellent.
The seventh inning read like a diary of havoc.
I appreciate deeply when people successfully write stuff like this, especially in blocking-and-tackling journalistic pieces like game stories.
Even after the Phillies’ lava spew
Very nice, connoting something filthier, but working in all kinds of other levels, like natural force, bad smell, inevitability, heat, disaster.
wobbly closer Brad Lidge
I’m going to have to use that for the balance of the season.
The game was symbolic of the season. Beauty tainted by fatal flaws.
This is maybe the most hackneyed bit, but it’s still not awful, especially in context.
All told, a hearty bravo. The Rockies-Padres series this weekend will be a death match one way or ’tother.
It’s funny, when you read this article with your head slightly tilted to the left and your eyes squinted, you’d think you were reading one of dannijd’s comments after a tough Phillies loss.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
well, now I’ll never be able to get the image of Brad Lidge as a Weeble out of my head. (Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down!)
by perfectdepth on Sep 3, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hmmm...
Not too happy with that, but really, I can’t ask for a better excuse to take a break from working =]
by TwistyWristy on Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Santana left the game last night with an injured pec muscle. i think we would have seen him next week if the rotation held form… wonder if he will miss a start?
Of course they will then throw out RA Dickey and we will get 2 hit! (He is quickly becoming one of my least favorite Mets, and that is no small task!)
Nah… Dickey is only amazing in alternating Phillies appearances, which means the bats will have him next time around!
by dannijd on Sep 3, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we are playing the Mets next weekend, we should miss him, since he is starting today against the Cubs. Wednesday would be his next start, then the following Monday, when we would be playing Florida.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 3, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. As long as there are no rainouts or anything, we shouldn’t face Dickey or Santana.
The first game, for now, looks like it’ll be Jennry Mejia vs. Roy Halladay. Interesting matchup.
Haven’t heard anything about Santana’s prognosis. I guess I’ll go check up on AA.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 3, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m starting to see that there is a lot of misguided Phillies hate out there. It’s giving me some insight into what it feels like to be a Yankees fan.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
That article seems like a perfect representation of opposing fans, in general, turning on teams that have any success. When that happens, every argument ever used against a team and/or its fans (valid or not) comes out of the woodwork: “your bandbox ballpark”; “the 2nd biggest NL payroll”; “a culture of sports fans who come to games to get thrown out of them”; etc.
See also the Boston Red Sox in the wake of their 2007 title — proving that even lovable losers can fall victim to this phenomenon. I honestly wonder what would ever happen if the Cubs had sustained success.
The Cubs fans would have been even more insufferable in everyone’s eyes, no doubt. There’s more of them. It’s just bitterness.
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Bitterness relfected in this which is perhaps the most absurd, stereotypical article I have ever written. I mean honestly, it’s as if the guy googled “nasty Philadelphia fans” and then wrote about them as if he had personal experience with them or was truly, deeply, and profoundly offended by them personally. Sheesh. There really is some hate out there, however completely unfounded it may be.
by FearTheTurtIe on Sep 3, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Holy Christ
I’m now typing blind because I punched out my monitor after reading the first paragraph of that
Well, that’s just idiotic. Did this dipshit see how the final game of the SCF ended? And the fans were booing the NHL honchos more than the Blackhawks/presentation of trophy. And 30 dudes at the draft in 1999? That’s representative of the entire fanbase…since when? Look: McNabb did have a hard time here, but no moreso than any other quarterback in recent memory. This is how it is when you QB in Philly. If this Colorado fan could step back enough to see we actually care about our sports here—maybe too much—perhaps he could differentiate nasty (which we are sometimes) with passionate (which we are most of the time).
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The blind, irrational hatred this twat has for Philly is truly awe inspiring.
Is it just me or do about 90% of sportswriters completely suck these days? I read so many articles that are filled with bad grammar and spelling, and just down right false information that I often wonder what the requirements for becoming one really are.
In thinking more on this subject, I’ve come to the following conclusion: the reason large amounts of Phillies, Red Sox (and someday Cubs fans, when/if they finally win a championship) are so obnoxious (or perceived to be) is similar to the nerd who gets kicked around all through school, graduates, becomes hugely successful, buys himself some nice duds, grows into his once awkward looks—then comes back to the HS reunion, gets up at the microphone and rips everyone a new one.
The fanbases have been kicked around for so long as representatives of a “pathetic” team that now, in this “moment in the sun,” however long it lasts, some are reveling a little too much. In some jealous eyes, they merely appear to be reveling in it a little too much. Whatever the case, this is simple human nature. I, for one, plan to suck all the marrow out of the freakin’ bone.
Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, peeps.
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the weirdest thing, to me, is that it’s not really “hate.” it’s this kind of self-pitying petulance.
trash talking doesn’t bother me at all, but these woe-is-me responses are just bizarre.
by perfectdepth on Sep 3, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but the Yankees fans deserve it. I’m only half kidding.
More seriously, I think there’s a distinction in the types of hatred that are directed toward Philadelphia fans and teams as opposed to, say, the Yankees. The Yankees are depicted as arrogant oppressors. In contrast, Philadelphia fans are seen as villains and criminals (thugs, if you will), sort of like soccer hooligans. Eagles fans have been portrayed in that way for years now, so it’s nothing new. It’s just getting extended to Phillies fans for the first time.
Also of note...
The GCL Phillies won the Gulf Coast League for the second time in three years, beating the Rays in the rubber match of their best-of-three series yesterday.
If it seems like the organization stacked the team with college signees, well, that’s kinda the case. The star of yesterday’s game, Tim Brown, is sort of interesting — he was the No. 5 prospect in Indy ball last year (see here), though it seems like his lack of swing-and-miss stuff is ultimately going to hold him back.
Anyway, congrats to the GCL Phils.
That was quite the West Coast swing, raising the team’s playoff odds by a tidy 45%, mostly at the expense of the Cardinals. Playoff pieces in place indeed!
The evidence wasn’t found on his person, but in the vehicle. He can argue it was left in from a previous suspect, got stuck to his shoe, whatever. I’m not sure if it’s the right call, but he does seem to have some possible wiggle room there.
Why wouldn’t it be his? 99.9% of the time if your in the back of a cop car you’ve been frisked and that would have been found, unless your that minor league CF with the street smarts of turnip who, drunk flagged down a police car, then your not getting frisked. Making more fuss out of this than necessary is a great way to piss off a judge. The guy is guilty.
If you were in his place, what other choice do you have other than to plead not guilty? Anybody know what a guilty plea would have resulted in? I’m guessing mandatory sentencing kicks in, and MLB doesn’t seem as ex-con friendly as the NFL.
No contest maybe and see if you can work out an agreement for Probation. Aren’t there like 80 lawyers here who should be answering this question?
If I was in his place…I wouldn’t fuck around. I’d be hiting AA or NA meetings everday, have a sponsor, be working the Steps and cop a plea if I’m a first time offender. Fuck baseball, I’d rather not to go to prison.
Volstad suspended 6 games. Which won’t affect anything in our series. He’ll still pitch against us on Tuesday, presumably.
And another: This is a helluva long time for a regular starter to be suspended.
Also, I wonder what the appeal process is here and how it works, and if other incidents are taken into consideration or if they are treated as totally unrelated. It seems ridiculous that, in the midst of an appeal process for one suspension, you’d be enough of a bonehead to bring down another on yourself.
It’s a shame for the Nats, the guy has genuine talent that could blow up to be top tier, but seems bound and determined to Milton Bradley himself right out of the game.
Yeah. Incidentally, it seems like Milton Bradley is finally starting to get control over his demons now. It’s a shame that it’s happening so late in his career.
Yes, but last year we ripped Charlie a new asshole every single day for not splitting the lefties.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, it’s the right move. I like it. If the Phils really took more advantage of roster expansion he might not have to do it at all in September.
Have they called up anyone? I saw something about Hoover getting the nod, but the transaction lists I’ve seen have been blank for the Phils.
Dobbs is up and Gload has been activated.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I love when they use the word “activated” for ballplayers. It makes me think of the WonderTwins.
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Form of a liquid nitrogen baseball. Shape of Roy Halladay. (a liquid nitrogen cutter is totally legal right?)
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All they could turn into was water and ice. That’s wonderful if you need emergency lemonade.
Don’t be pickin’ on Aquaman he would have been useful in the gulf recently.
No, she was a shape-shifter; he was the useless water/ice one. She was at least useful in that she could assume any animal/human form (but also form of other material things, like a bucket or somesuch).
Aquaman sucks. But his sidekick, Aquabrat or whatever his name was, was lame.
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Speed Racer was lame, too. Go ahead, preach me, manga/anime fans.
Aqualad was his lame sidekick.
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Great, now Chim Chim is a wreck
Marine Boy makes Aqualad scrub the barnacles off whales. Aqualad is a total pussy, even Gleek razzed him.
Ibanez should be resting. He’s a slumping 38-year-old who got on his last hot streak while resting occasionally against lefties and there’s a lefty going tonight. Charlie seems determined to run the players right into the ground this year.
Ha
700 level link on Utley playing catch with Charlie Day:
Charlie Day Blew Utley’s Mind
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by doubleh on Sep 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Phillies Are Cookin' In The Kitchen!
http://cbs3.com/sports/Philadelphia.Phillies.MLB.2.1894991.html
OK, so we need some volunteers to cook all this stuff and write up reviews…
Dude
I can do it and have be a totally Julie/Julia experiment, except with more cursing! /sarcasm
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that movie would’ve been way more tolerable with some eye candy. As it was, it was just husband/boyfriend torture with unattractive actresses to salt the wound.
I like her, but Amy Adams is a little too plucky for my tastes. As is usual, the book is better.
Anywho, my joke was to cook my way through the Phillies cookbook and blog about the hilarity that would ensue (with lots of cursing). It could be a special blog edition and run through the offseason. The more I think about this, it has some legs. What say you, blog lords?
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This could be a blast, and maybe even more so if you ‘bought in past and current members of the Phillies’ to cook along with you. I, for one, would enjoy seeing this happen. And if you need any help, I volunteer to help with the eating.
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