Back In the High Life Again: Phillies 8, Marlins 7
by WholeCamels on Sep 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT
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PrintAnd just like that, with a Braves loss (in Pittsburgh no less, with Tim Hudson pitching), and a sloppy win against a tough Marlins team, the Phillies reclaim sole possession of first place for the first time since May, and become the first National League team to 80 victories in 2010.
It wasn't pretty. Three of the Marlins' seven runs were unearned, thanks to a Joe Blanton error in the third inning that was really kinda Ryan Howard's fault due to his inability to throw to second, and a horrendous "WTF?" throw from right field "to" "third base" from Jayson Werth that allowed Marlins catcher Brad Davis to score in the eighth inning. The Marlins then tied the game on a Ryan Madson wild pitch later that frame. But the Phillies took the lead for good in the bottom of the eighth after a Shane Victorino stolen base, then an RBI single from Placido Polanco.
Joe Blanton was, again, "Average Joe," allowing four runs (only two earned) over 6.1 innings, striking out five. The bullpen allowed three runs, all charged to Jose Contreras, but as documented above, there was plenty of blame to go around. Oh, and Ryan Madson got a blown save AND the win in that game. Got it? KILL THE SAVE STAT.
The offensive star of the night was Raul Ibanez, who came just a double short of hitting for the cycle.
FIRST PLACE BITCHEZ.
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"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
by soman319 on Sep 7, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully a little soreness that will pass. Madson will be fine closing in the meantime, but Charlie will have to do some managing of the 7th and 8th.
twitterererered is just so awkward though.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I get leery about elbow things. Especially when he, um…
Lidge said he hyperextended the elbow Saturday during a save against the Milwaukee Brewers at Citizens Bank Park. He pitched through the pain Monday in a save against the Florida Marlins, but said three consecutive days off should be enough to get him healthy.
So he finished the game Saturday with a hyperextended elbow? And he thinks he just needs 2 days off now to be fine? If so, that’s a hell of a self-diagnosis.
As for the self diagnosis, he may have dealt with the injury before— I have a history of problems with my jaw (TMJ is terrible). I am an expert at this point at diagnosing it, along with certain other ailments— having seen them before, I know what they feel like, and can do pretty well with the diagnosis.
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It’s always good to see a bit of Zevon recognition on here. One of my all-time favorite musicians.
I'm not a fan.
Zevon made the song much more somber in tone compared to the pseudo-folk whateverthehell that was Winwood’s version, which I think honestly fits better with the lyrics. Also, his voice is not Steve Winwood’s, so that’s always a plus.
by RoboticParadox on Sep 8, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Derek Lowe pitching for the Braves tomorrow in his first game back after being shelved with elbow pain from a lingering bone chip. Zach Duke for the Pirates. Not the greatest matchup from our perspective, but then again, neither were today’s or yesterday’s.
Orioles also going for the sweep at Yankee Stadium. That would be pretty funny.
That would be hillarious
Tomorrow, it is completely possible that two of the best teams in the league will be swept by the two worst.
Go Pirates and Orioles!
I’m all for the sweep of the Yankees, but I hesitate to call the Orioles one of the two worst teams today. Their record may say so, but the way they’ve played since Buck Showalter took over makes me think they are a better bet to win than at least two or three other AL teams.
by phillyinportland on Sep 8, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Great ABs by Victorino and Polanco in the 8th. And Madson was great in the ninth, on a night when they either wanted to avoid him altogether or not need him until the last three outs.
It would be nice if we had a consistently usable lefty reliever, but at least tonight it didn’t kill us.
by dajafi on Sep 7, 2010 11:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
bring him out of retirement! pull a favre & skip the bs & come back when it matters
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Victorino
one triple away from the counting-stats feat of a quadruple double. He’s kind of been the organizational man this year. And I strongly suspect that his shoulder wasn’t quite right until recently, if at all.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 7, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
As I look at his season numbers again, it’s been a weird year for him. Plate discipline has taken a slight step backward, but he’s hitting for more power. His fielding is closer to the “good” than the “bad” end of the spectrum. And after tonight, he’s now 30-for-33 in stolen bases. Hell, I’d argue that Shane might be having a career year if his BABIP were in line with career norms.
yah, and don’t miss the L-R splits, which are regressing to a mean. It would seem fair to say it’s been a good season. Without the injuries, you wonder what he might have been able to do. Not that it’s over – at this poin he now may wind up as the leadoff hitter, like Madson will wind up the closer.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 8, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Did I miss something – is Lidge out for any extended time? Because it seems like what Madson did tonight, if Lidge had done it, he’d be getting blasted for another blown save. I’m glad Madson got through the 9th okay, and it was a kind of save situation, but Madson, then Lidge, is a more successful combination than bullpen, then Madson, has been.
by phillyinportland on Sep 8, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Lidge says he’ll be back Friday after reporting elbow stiffness to Manuel earlier today. Unfair to castigate Madson on the BSV. Madson inherited a mess from Romero. The ball that allowed the runner to score was one Ruiz normally catches. Utley and Werth made two throws they should have stuck in their pockets that both resulted in runs.
I tend to be pretty lax in faulting our bullpen, I was just pointing out that the results-oriented fans would probably have seized a wild pitch by Lidge as more evidence why Madson should be the closer. I don’t see that – Lidge is the closer and Madson is a great setup man, and unless you have a need to change because of injury I think it’s wasted breath to think the two will switch.
by phillyinportland on Sep 8, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I kind of wonder if Victorino's trip to the DL...
may have been the blessing in disguise we were hoping Utley’s trip to the DL would be (at the time that there was still hope 15 days would not mean 6 weeks). While it took him a little while to get his rhythm back on return from the DL, perhaps the rest allowed his shoulder a chance to get healthy (or at least healthier).
This is kind of similar to Ruiz’s DL trip. The time that Ruiz had to spend not playing baseball may have allowed his knee, ankle, and shoulder the opportunity to heal that it could not get while he was trying to play through it.,
Andrew Miller is 0-3 against the Phillies lifetime, yet most of the guys who are currently on the team have bad numbers against him. Victorino has pretty much destroyed him though.
Are we tied for best record in the NL now?
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
yes, though we’ve played 2 more games than cinci
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so we’re down 1 in the all important loss column
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
but we’re up 1 in the win column and you know what they say, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 7, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Cinci lost, therefore we’re tied to 1st in the NL!
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
and getting healthy at the right time
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
now if we could only stop trying to give games away
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 7, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
does the atmosphere disappear in the actual playoffs?
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Sep 9, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Some really good game threads tonight, some bad but mostly good (to me). Great to be in this atmosphere.
Even a Braves fan tipped their hat just an over all great night. getting drunk now, no job what elese to do?
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
It was both, actually. Here’s the Fangraphs one.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/break-out-the-brooms/
I wonder how often Fangraphs authors admit to having been wrong about anything, to say nothing of some of the shithead commenters.
by ThinMountainAir on Sep 7, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey where Bilzo – Bobby A. just crahed into the wall trying to keep Lou effing Marson’s first salami in the park.
NL Playoff Picture
Excited as I am that the Phils are back in first, I’m still thinking about the playoff picture as a whole. The Reds are in great shape in the Central, so I think it comes down to the Phillies, Atlanta, San Diego, the Giants, and the Rockies fighting it out for 3 spots. So I’m actively rooting against pretty much all of these teams at this point. I actually think it’s going to be quite an exciting September in the National League.
Meanwhile, the Padres eke out a 2-1 win behind Latos.
schedule-makers...
…might’ve nailed it this year.
Last three games of the year have PHI vs. ATL as well as SD vs. SF.
We might not know all of the playoff teams until October 3rd.
Objects in rear-view mirror . . .AREN'T THERE ANYMORE SUCKERS!
Pre-game:
Domonic Brown was supposed to bat 7th tonight, but he suffered a quad strain during last night’s game.
Might that be the reason Brown was thrown out by 10 feet in the second inning?? Hmmm
Jayson Werth – who turned into a puddle when the Phils were in Florida last month – will bat 7th and play right.
Top 1st:
With one out, Logan Morrison – the World’s Greatest Hitter in the World – comes up. Blanton couldn’t finish his pre-game plate of E.L. Fudge cookies, so Joe offers one to Morrison. Double to right.
But Blanton zips the cookie bag shut by retiring Hanley Ramriez and Dan Uggla – both of whom are far more accomplished than WGHIW.
Bottom 1st: 0-0
The trio of Victorino, Polanco and Utley allows Volstad out of the inning on just 8 pitches.
Brilliant.
Top 2nd: 0-0
Charlie Manuel has struggled to cure Phillie’s batting slumps this year, but he seems to have fixed Marlins slugger Mike Stanton. The rookie with the .246 batting average sends a double over Victorino’s head in center.
Now if he can only get opposing pitchers to lob 90-mph Napalm to Jimmy Rollins and Raul Ibaez
After an 11-pitch at-bat that lasts longer than my wife’s C-section, Cameron Maybin sends a lazer beam off Blanton’s glove for a 1-3 grounder to first. Blanton walks Brad Davis to get to Volstad, who grounds out to end the inning.
Jayson Werth's throw was so bad and ill advised that had it been 1919....
….these guys would have wrote an E9 in a special “trying to lose” column they added to their score cards.
Of course, Werth’s penchant for mental errors would have ultimately exonerated him.
Love the guy and no way would I have supported some lesson teaching benching, but I am beginning to suspect that, his injury aside, coaches believed he was too airheaded and/or easily fatigued to handle playing everyday.
I like having 2 closers
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Sep 8, 2010 6:47 AM EDT reply actions
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