A Few Phillies Links For You, October 17, 2011: World Seriously, On Windows,
by WholeCamels on Oct 17, 2011 8:24 AM EDT
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PrintPujols, Cardinals take wild ride to World Series
Yecch. I actually hate both of the remaining teams/fanbases, so looks like I might be skipping the World Series. Grapes be sour.
Hamels has two surgeries
They were going to insert an extra kidney, but decided against it at the last minute.
Five moves to fix the Phillies
On its face, I agree with #3 and 5. My feelings about #1 will be determined by how the market shakes out.
Philadelphia Phillies Top Five Offseason Pitching Decisions: Fan's View
1.) The Most Important Pitching Issue for the Phillies: CLOSER
::facepalm::
Phillies GM suspects Chase Utley’s knee issues may linger
Put this in the "No Sh*t, Sherlock" file.
Inside the Phillies: Is window of opportunity closing on aging Phillies?
In the room the writers come and go / Talking of championship windows
Manuel expects Phillies to contend again
Bold statement, that.
Phillies introduce director of player development Joe Jordan
It's so hard for fans to evaluate hires like this, but people I respect think he's great so put me in the happy column.
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“I’m a baseball guy more than anything,” Jordan said during an introductory teleconference on Thursday.
Was that really his most notable quote? I mean, I would hope we’re not bringing on a guy who is primarily a hockey buff, or a shuffleboard fanatic. Baseball should be a pretty significant aspect of life for all of these guys, shouldn’t it? Somehow it just screams, “I have no notable qualities, I’ve just been around so long people think I know what I’m doing.” That may not actually be the case, but it’s just such a vague, unrevealing answer.
They’re a scorge on civilization
Eagles: 2-4, Let's start the run!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
To be fair, the really horrible Cowboys fans tend to be bandwagon jumpers from the East Coast or other places that are not Texas. I don’t think I’ve ever even met a Cowboys fan from DFW. I’m not suggesting that they don’t exist, just that I don’t know very many Texans.
Since Rangers fans only overlap with Texas-based Cowboys fans and not the non-Texas-based ones, maybe they aren’t so bad. You could do a Venn diagram of this.
You do speak the truth. I actually grew up a Cowboys fan, Aikman is still my favorite player of all time but I was a kid when the Cowboys were owning the NFC in the early-mid 90’s. Eventually I smartened up and made the transition to the Cowboys. I mostly blame my father, he isn’t a big pro football guy so I didn’t have a role model in that regard.
That said, 99% of the Cowboys fans I know are from the East Coast, and they all suck.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’ve known a few actual Cowboy fans from Texas. One kept telling me how great the atmosphere was in the parking lots and she and her Husband really enjoyed going to the game and sitting down with a glass of wine to watch the Cowboys. The other guy lived in Houston, so probably not the best example.
My grudge is that even if the Rangers win, I don’t think Dallas will care all that much, since they aren’t the Cowboys.
I have met a couple of Cowboys fans from Dallas. One of them didn’t know the reputation of Cowboys fans on the East Coast and so when I made jokes about how the Mavericks winning the championship might get them some fans from their own city and take away Lakers fans, he was so very hurt. Like, he couldn’t conceive of the idea of being a Lakers/Cowboys/Yankees fan. It was kind of funny to see how much this upset him.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Oct 17, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, there are so many bandwagon-jumpers around here that I can’t imagine Lakers/Comboys/Yankees fans not existing.
by ThinMountainAir on Oct 17, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shitty article, you guys.
“I don’t like him even a little bit, but Crashburn Alley has a good take on the Phillies’s bullpen” — Crossing Broad
so you know it’s terrible
by Crashburn Alley on Oct 17, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve learned my lesson.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 17, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
My preference flowchart:
1. Re-sign Madson at reasonable or below market rate.
2. Let Madson walk, offer arb, get picks, give job to one of the kids.
3. Re-sign Madson at above-market, overpay rate.
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451. Sign some expensive free agent closer (Bell, Papelbon).
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 17, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
In theory, if both Madson and the Bell/Papelbon alternative are at market rate and the market is efficient (or if both are equally overpriced or underpriced), it might actually be better to go with Bell/Papelbon. By losing Madson, you’d gain two picks, and by signing Bell/Papelbon, you’d only lose one. And there’s a pretty decent chance that the higher of the two you’d get would be higher than than the one you’d lose.
It’s a big “if” but worth chewing on, I think.
by taco pal on Oct 17, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very good point(s).
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You know
I love tennis and I once saw a tennis player who was ambidextrous and she would SWITCH hands during a match. For example, if the ball was hit to her left she might use her right hand and then switch on the very next point.
I wonder if a baseball pitcher could do the same thing…imagine going righty on righty and then lefty on lefty.
Imagine what LaRussa would do against that pitcher. Ugh.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
The Phillies actually had an ambidextrous relief pitcher years ago, Greg Harris. But I don’t think he ever pitched lefty in a game. I guess he felt like his right hand was so much stronger than his left hand that it wasn’t worth it.
Wow
That’s amazing. I never knew that. In tennis, Rafael Nadal is actually right-handed but his uncle trained him to play with his left (so his backhand is like his forehand and his forehand is gripped with his actual dominant right hand). It’s been a big part of his success. I wonder if coaches ever think to train young pitchers to do anything like that. I’m not sure it would make that much of a difference unless you felt really confident with both hands. But I guess there are switch hitters whose platoon splits are pretty excellent, so why not pitchers too?
Billy Wagner was a natural righty but became a lefty. He wrote with his right hand. I have a vague memory that he made the switch because of an injury in his youth or something, not because he was specifically trained to do it.
In boxing, it’s not uncommon for natural lefties to be trained to box in the orthodox stance, but that’s pretty different from baseball or tennis, obviously.
I know something you do not know. I am not left-handed.
by essman on Oct 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is a pitcher in the Yankee organization (I believe) who is ambidextrous and switches hands depending on the pitch.
www.southpawcurve.blogspot.com - check out my baseball blog!!
Pat Venditte does this. He’s a reliever in the Yankees’ system; he was nearly unhittable in A-ball for a couple of years, and fairly effective at AA Trenton last season, but scouts aren’t high on him and he’s 26. His stuff isn’t that great; he gets a lot of strikeouts purely due to having the platoon advantage all of the time, so he doesn’t offer a significant situational advantage either way. He’s a guy who is just kind of okay against both types of batters. His control is also a bit of a concern. Being 26 in AA, coming off a good but not dominant season, and not having great velocity or control, he’s not really a significant prospect. However, he should find himself in AAA next year, and it’s not unreasonable to expect that he surfaces in the big leagues at some point, even if he only really makes it as a short-term novelty act in September.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=vendit001pat
But he did give us this pretty hilarious “Switch Hitter vs. Switch Pitcher” video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2oD8KzxS14
I’ve been hibernating for a few days but I think I’m over the initial shock. I like the idea of keeping Madson and resigning Hamels. Also, the Cuddyer idea is interesting and one that I didn’t think of, so I agree with that too.
Not to rehash the season (and apologies if this has been talked about), but I started thinking about September and I wonder if playing 33 games in 31 days had any impact on the postseason results. This goes back to the Cuddyer/Polly situation cause if the Phils sign Cuddyer and Polly could have more days off, then maybe the result would be different. I hope this makes sense… I’m a little sleep deprived this morning!
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I’m ok with cuddyer provided its no more than a 2 year deal.
The whole Furcal, Scutaro talk has me batty though. Furcal made 10 mm last year and is 18 months older than Jimmy. Scutaro is 37 himself. Jim us gonna take 3 with a 4th year option and if he does you pay him.
I’m with TPs ideas above In regards to bell/papal on should we end up in an overpay situation.
25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark
by Joecatz on Oct 17, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well....
thefightins.com site seems to have been suspended once again. Will you lads welcome me, lovingly, with open arms? Thanks, I know you will.
Regards,
Amandah
I love Shane Victorino… his Twitter is hilarious.
Ha @BeerMeABeer! I always look for the positives I life and don’t pay attention to blogs and people like @crossingbroad on twitter! Smile…
Awesome. People have been giving him so much crap lately for being happy. “He should still be depressed! Arg!”
Maybe he is a human being with a life outside of baseball. Huh. Novel concept.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 17, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta move on. Phillies fans who refuse to move on and still want to wallow in depression need to get over themselves.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
In fact, that mindset is kind of necessary to be able to succeed as an athlete. Everyone always talks about the “closer mentality” of being able to forget about failure and bounce back, but that really has nothing to do with being a closer specifically. Everyone in sports needs to have that mentality.
It seems like our city is full of drama queens who care more about whether the athletes validate their hurt feelings than they do about actually, you know, succeeding. People like that are worse than “soft”, in that they’re both “soft” and hypocritical about it at the same time.
Truth. Although, honestly, all fandom involves self-reflection to some extent. B.I.R.G.ing as it were (basking in reflected glory). So, bottomline, all fandom comes down to the individual and how that individual internalizes being a fan.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I remember when Chase Utley went into a slump during the 2nd half of ‘08 and a number of fans began complaining about how he wasn’t getting angry enough every time he struck out. Like, he should have broken a couple of bats, or gone into a Zambrano-style temper tantrum, just to show people that he cared.
by ThinMountainAir on Oct 17, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
A friend saw Hunter Pence, three days after the loss, looking very very happy walking down a Center City street with a beautiful blonde lady. Hunter was wearing cowboy boots. That is all I know, but I ’m glad he looked happy.
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
I actually liked that Jimmy, Shane, etc., seemed to “rebound” pretty well from the loss. It kept me from feeling too crushed and distraught; if these guys, who actually PLAY ON THE TEAM, can keep it in perspective…
http://www.thegoodphight.com
Yeah, well fuck Hunter Pence. There’s a face so ugly it should be locked in a monastery and forgotten.
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 17, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Move #4 (sign Betemit) might not be bad either.
Bob.
by The Dark on Oct 17, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Contingent on not getting Cuddyer. Cuddyer+Betemit+Polly+Merberry+Benny Fresh = a good, but expensive bench (not all of those would be bench parts, but most would. This also assumes that Benny would be back and Dom would go to AAA)
Tire World Cuddyer’s.
Lou Michael, this is Charlie Donovan Ruben Amaro, the GM of the Cleveland Indians Philadelphia Phillies. How’d you llike to manage play for us next year?
Oh, I dunno.
You don’t know? This is your chance to manage in the big leagues get the hell out of Minnesota!
Let me think it over, Charlie Ruben, I’ve got a guy on the other line about some whitewalls, I’ll talk to you later!
Cooney’s logic about Rollins is wrong. The question isn’t whether the last year of Rollins’ contract will be worth it. The question is whether the contract as a whole will be worth it.
Thought experiment. Say you’re signing somebody to a one-year, $5 million contract. And say you have a crystal ball that tells you that the player you’re signing will be in the top 10 at his position until August 15, then will miss the rest of the regular season with an injury (ignore the playoffs). Should you sign him? Obviously, the answer is yes. The amount you benefit from the contract in the first 4.5 months of the season will outweigh the fact that you’ll be paying for zero benefit at all over the last 1.5 months.
This is not to say that the Rollins contract will necessarily be worth it on the whole – as WC says, there’s no way to even make that judgment without knowing what the exact terms of the contract will be (which none of us do, including Cooney). But what Cooney is suggesting is that if Rollins’ last year is a waste of money, that alone will make the contract a bad idea. That’s a really stupid argument on his part.
It’s the same thing with a movie. 119 minutes of a movie could be excellent but if the end sucks then the whole thing is shit. Same thing with a book. Cooney clearly doesn’t have the “It’s about the journey” mentality.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
That fan’s perspective article is horrible. The opening line pretty much says it all:
Despite Cliff Lee’s disappointing choke job in Game 2 of the NLDS, when he blew a four run lead for only the second time in 97 chances, the Philadelphia Phillies will still be loaded at the top of the starting rotation in 2012.
by The Howling Fantods on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
I think referring to it anecdotally as a “choke job” colors the prose just a little too negatively. Might just be me.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Agree. I was never a raving Lee fan, but “choke” is a little harsh. Actually, perhaps because I wasn’t a raving Lee fan it didn’t surprise me that he gave up 4 runs in a playoff game. See 2010 WS.
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
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by FuquaManuel on Oct 17, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Another bad argument I’ve seen from a lot of sources and is repeated in that Cooney article: Rollins “was a player who made his career with his legs and those wheels have left him on the disabled list three times in the past two seasons.”
Obviously, Rollins is an injury risk and that has to be taken into account, but the fact that the injuries are to his legs does not have that much special significance. Speed is overrated, and if you take away all of Rollins’ speed, he’ll still be a pretty good player, provided that it doesn’t kill his defense. I don’t see Jimmy beating out a ton of infield hits even today, and while his stolen bases are a real asset, they just don’t matter that much in the grand scheme of things. If Jimmy can still OPS close to the league average while able to play shortstop, then he’ll still be a good player, even if he only steals 10 bases.
Defense is very important, but I don’t think speed (as far as top speed goes, at least) plays that big a role in shortstop defense. A lot of the top fielding shortstops today aren’t fast at all. In fact, the top 4 guys in UZR/150 this year were all among the slowest shortstops. It’s much more about reflexes than speed. I think a slower Rollins would still be a good defensive shortstop. All these constant references to his “legs” are more just a cliche than an actual argument.
Or, to put it in a pithier way, Rollins’ has NOT made his career with his legs. He’s made his career with his bat and his glove.
It goes along with how lots of fans overvalue stolen bases. It’s such an exciting play that fans think it’s also a very important play. So players like Rollins get defined by how many bases they steal, which is actually only a very small part of his value.
by ThinMountainAir on Oct 17, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So closer is the priority?
Nothing about OFFENSE…the same OFFENSE that didn’t really show up for a 2nd straight post season. This is going to be a scary offseason, that is one thing I am sure of.
Brewers had a pretty good offense this year; they are no longer playing in the postseason.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
To expand, what I am saying is that it’s impossible to create a “perfect” team. Playoffs come down to timing, match-ups and luck. The Phils had as good a chance as any to make it far. They had a 102 wins. You don’t completely dismantle a team that wins 102 regular season games if you don’t have to.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Problem is they do have too. You can not rely on pitching all the time. Expecting pitchers to be perfect is crazy. You need some consistent hitting to bail out the pitchers when those times happen.
So many questions about this team offensively atm but people are focusing in on the closer role & bullpen. What about 1B? Howards injury is no joke at all & I expect him to miss some time next year. Then when he does come back, how will that injury effect his fielding ( yes fielding lol ) & hitting.
Whose the starting LF? Most would say Mayberry but that is not written in stone. Look how long it took to get him decent playing time this season, especially late in the season when he was raking the ball. Will he replace Howard @ 1B for the time being & actually bring up Brown to play LF?
Then bench was horrid this year. I mean dreadful. You could pretty much can the entire bench cept for Valdez.
The entire infield is an injury risk. From chases knee, the rollins legs & pollys back & arm. They don’t have anything in the minors even remotely close to being ML ready either.
They have alot of decisions to make this offseason & some won’t be easy ones.
The offense was fine. The fact that they hit poorly in a five-game series is pretty close to meaningless.
Yeah, if the Phils-Cards played that same 5-game series 10 times, they’d probably win 7 out of 10 times.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Second straight postseason series they’ve lost despite having a positive run differential. It’s super annoying, but wanting to make wholesale moves in response to that is practically the definition of a dumb overreaction.
Yeah, it’s not like the Phils got smoked like the Brewers did. Plus, the Brewers are losing Fielder. Gotta be an extra sad day to be a Milwaukee fan today.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
That said, yes it would be nice to bring in a good backup IF and a good backup 1B/LF. But it isn’t worth panicking about. As long as they re-sign Rollins, the outlook for the 2012 offense will be okay.
Cept when those 5 games are the opening playoff series…and its happened back to back seasons…and this past season they were slumping pretty bad the last month.
To repeat what taco pal said, evaluating an entire team based on five and seven game series is the definition of an unnecessary overreaction and a meaningless conclusion. That the Phillies lost in the playoffs two straight years is meaningless. And as was already mentioned, in both series the Phillies lost the last two years, they produced more runs combined than their opponent. So not only is what you are saying meaningless, it’s hardly even true.
they were slumping pretty bad the last month.And this, my friends, is how bullshit narratives get written.
Yes, the Phillies were mired in a slump the middle of September. But what will be forgotten by the WIP crowd and every other member of the LCD section of the fanbase is in the last series of the season, the Phillies, with absolutely nothing to play for, went on the road and played a their good Braves team with everything in the world on the line.
4-2
7-1
4-3
Yeah. They were really heading into the playoffs on a downer.
/psssst this is why momentum in sports is extremely overrated to nonexistent.
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Lots of sore losers out there. I admit sometimes I fall into this trap and only look at what my team did wrong than what the other team did right.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
No doubt. We know our team best!
But, as much as it pains me to admit it, the Cardinals, especially their offense and bullpen, and Carpenter in game 5, have played a pretty damn good post-season.
Still, at the end of the day, fuck them.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
by doubleh on Oct 17, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ehhh….It’s not like the Cardinals’ offense is a bunch of hacks. I see what you’re saying, but the fact that a team with a lot of good hitters being knocked out of the playoffs doesn’t prove anything any more than a team with a lot of good pitchers being knocked out of the playoffs.
Win (will it be) Today?
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was my overall point, I think. You can’t really fashion a perfect team, per se.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
yeah I see what you’re saying and of course I agree. Fortunately the other Philly teams are smart and don’t try to make themselves sound like some invincible “dream team” before the season even starts.
Win (will it be) Today?
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 17, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This from Lookout Landing.
According to StatCorner, the Phillies’ rotation finished 166 runs better than average. That’s an incredible total. Meanwhile, the Cardinals’ offense – also according to StatCorner – finished 152 runs better than average. That’s an incredible total, too. A very similarly incredible total.
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Nothing about OFFENSE…the same OFFENSE that didn’t really show up for a 2nd straight post season. This is going to be a scary offseason, that is one thing I am sure of.
If you visit here occasionally you may know this already, but I’ll say it anyway:
From the time Utley joined them in May, the Phillies were the highest-scoring team in the NL.
They didn’t hit much in the NLDS — it happens. If they had gotten a break here or there, noboby would be talking about the offense.
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Celebrating over 50 years of slightly more Phils wins than losses: 1961-2011
BIG RIGHT HANDED BAT
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 17, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He did help, but they were also 2nd highest for the 2+ months from May 23 (Chase Utley Appreciation Day) to July 29.
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Celebrating over 50 years of slightly more Phils wins than losses: 1961-2011
The starters’ splits in July were off the charts. Looking at aggregate runs almost doesn’t do it justice. Howard had a bad month, but everyone else’s wRC+ splits were crazy.
top 9 in PA (july split) by wRC+
Victorino 186
Utley 158
Mayberry 158
Ruiz 156
Rollins 144
Ibanez 136
Brown 120
Howard 93
Martinez 92
World Series haiku
Agree about the remaining teams, WC. Here is what I wrote earlier today:
No Phillies no Rays
No Yanks no Sox no Tigers
No Brewers no fun.
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
One of my coworkers is a huge Cardinals fan and he has been completely insufferable since they beat us. Thank God I took off work this week so I don’t have to listen to him any more. To make matters worse he’s one of those Joe Morgan types who love traditional stats and thinks advanced stats are all hocus pocus hogwash, so its impossible to have an intelligent discussion with him.
Oh yeah, he still complains at least once a week about Howard beating Pujols out for the MVP in 2006. If they win the WS I think I’m gonna end up shooting myself.
Hearing Morgan’s voiceover at the end of Moneyball was really an “urge to kill, rising” moment for me.
Where he disparages stats? And that one scout that worked for Beane? Can you imagine talking to your boss that way? Geez.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I was surprised how the manager talked to him. Though Beane did dump on him in that early scene.
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
Yeah, I noticed PSH looked nothing like Howe, but wasn’t sure how truthful the portrayal was. I see now that it was not at all truthful.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
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I also doubt that Howe’s telling the complete truth, but I also doubt that he’s making all of it up.
You know what’s funny is that they named that scout after a real guy, who not only wasn’t fired by Beane but (after he left to take another job with the Rangers) was re-hired by Beane – he still works for the A’s today! The character was a composite, so they didn’t have to give him that name. They could have just given him a fake name or something.
The real guy, Grady Fuson, really is sort of a traditionalist, but clearly not enough of one totally reject saber either.
Yeah, I read an article last night where Beane said they really did “Hollywood” up the movie with some of the details. Such as making Raul Ibanez a completely different race.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
spoiler?
I meant the voiceover right after the last out when the A’s lose to the Twins to end their ‘02 season – when he’s all like “see, the A’s lost because the whole idea for the team was flawed – you can’t build a team with computer numbers – this team couldn’t bunt – blah blah blah”
Oh, yeah. That. I blocked that part out.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I went back and looked at the box scores of that DS. I hadn’t realized that the biggest reason why the A’s lost the series was that Tim Hudson basically lost it singlehandedly.
My husband’s main complaint about the movie was that he felt it was a disservice that they never mentioned that the A’s rotation during that 20-game run was Hudson, Zito and Mulder.
Hmm, didn’t realize Lidle pitched out of the pen in that series for the A’s. Shows you how up to snuff I am with RPs throughout history.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Aw man, now I know the A’s don’t win.
by Cormican on Oct 17, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
A semi-interesting article on the upcoming CBA negotiations:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/labor-talks-draft-realignment-among-remaining-issues-101711
I’m not overly excited at the prospect of a hard slotting system. I can understand the owners not wanting to blow lots of bonus money on a player who doesn’t pan out, but it’s not a huge issue from what I’ve seen and it’s nowhere near as big of a problem as it has been in the NFL draft. It might also damage the overall quality of baseball. If the slotting is set too low then it might influence more players’ decisions to take a football/basketball college scholarship rather than going straight to the minors out of high school.
Win (will it be) Today?
FYI, Carlton’s 300th win (9/23/83) is playing on the Comcast network.
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Celebrating over 50 years of slightly more Phils wins than losses: 1961-2011
Thanks for blowing the end of it. No need to watch now.
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 18, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
But then you’d miss the twist ending where Paul Owens realizes there is a story on the board behind him about “The Pope”, then a picture of a Rose, then he sees the word “Sarge”, then as he drops his coffee cup in shock, he sees the word Morgan on the bottom and realizes the mythical Steve Jeltz (legendary Butcher of the diamond) was sitting in front of him the whole time pretending to be Juan Samuel.
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