NLDS Game Four Tailgate Thread - Phillies at Cardinals - Oswalt vs. Jackson
by WholeCamels on Oct 5, 2011 3:49 PM EDT
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PrintThe Phillies look to close out the National League Division Series tonight in St. Louis, and secure their fourth straight trip to the National League Championship Series.
Roy Oswalt takes the hill from the Phillies, and will be opposed by Edwin Jackson for the Cardinals. Savvy Phillies fans will probably best remember Jackson for serving up Joe Blanton's solo home run in Game Four of the 2008 World Series. Bahahahhaha!
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In case anyone wants to relive it, Blanton’s HR: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?mid=200810263646924
He can pinch hit tonight, right?
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Would they really Seinfeld-finale it?
Bringing in guys just because they’d been “there” before?
I assume the parade of ppl that were on the show that kept being called as witnesses against the defendants.
I just sing "thong th-th-th-thong whenver Sisko comments, it helps.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
@boknows71
Since when do stand-up stoic Midwesterners whine so much about shadows and umpires.
There were always cardinals nesting where I grew up and they didn’t seem so high maintenance.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
As a stand up stoic (former) Midwesterner, they are being rather obnoxious.
Giving St. Louis the bird since 1982
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 5, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone agree that there should’ve been a double switch last night to avoid Madson batting? I know it would’ve had to have been someone from the heart of lineup switched, but I just don’t think you can let your closer bat there. Moot now of course, just sayin.
by FanSince1993 on Oct 5, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well, you could replace Polly or Utley with Martinez or Valdez, but what if Madson gives it up anyway?
No, I think The La Russa would have been a bad move there. Or, at least, not beneficial.
Wouldn’t work. Polly was due up 2nd in the 9th. Better replacing Victorino with Mini-Mart or replacing Howard with Ibanez or possibly replace Mayberry with Ibanez and shift Mayberry to first, replacing Howard. But if Madson blows the lead, either of those options takes a big bat out of the lineup.
Who would you have double-switched for? I can’t think of a switch you would make that wouldn’t make your defense worse for the bottom half of the inning. Better off letting Mason bat and telling him to just make sure he doesn’t get hit by a pitch.
The replacement options and the spot in the order were obviously issues, but I think any defensive downgrade would have been better than toying with madson like that. Someone in another thread mentioned madson himself claiming to have gotten “jelly legs” before from batting. It was an imperfect situation, and obviously worked out well, bit to me letting madson bat was a mistake in that it was possibly detrimental to his ability to pitch effectively.
by FanSince1993 on Oct 5, 2011 5:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The easier solution would be to tell him not to swing at anything. I doubt that standing in the batters box taking called strikes can turn your legs into jelly.
Heck- if he had stood there and took enough pitches he may have walked #Giants’ed.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Then he would’ve had to run. /jelly legg’d
by FanSince1993 on Oct 5, 2011 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough. Although I think more than my legs would turn to jelly if I stood in the batters box
by FanSince1993 on Oct 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The only double switch that makes sense there is Ibanez for either Howard or Victorino with Mayberry moving over to CF.
Mayberry just made that defensive play in LF the inning before. Charlie has utilized the double switch exactly once all season.
I’m fine with the way it went down. I’ll take a stronger overall lineup defensively in the 9th inning over Madsons AB.
25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark
I’m about to go running and be like “yup, I’m going to be anti social tonight and leave early cause I have a game to watch.” Of course it’s the one running group that meets at a bar with no TVs. But seriously, who schedules a 6pm game? And yes, my running groups are affiliated with bars… best of both worlds :)
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Hashers?
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Seriously...
Roy Effing Oswalt is our #4 pitcher.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Should have been our 5th!!!!
/WIP in FM’d
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
@boknows71
Shoulda kept Cliff Lee! Then we’d have two!
by Phrozen on Oct 5, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dueling Cliff Lees?
(insert banjo)
Love that idea.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
@boknows71
I want a team with at least 14 Cliff Lees.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
they’re sold old school they play at Shibe Park.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
@boknows71
FUCK YOUR SHIT
I WORK FOR ROOOOOOYYYYYYYY OSWALT
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 5, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
Me too!
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OT- Attention Phrozen and Dirty Waters!
I got the job!
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mazel Tov!!!
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
@boknows71
Thanks!
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats great news! Did you clear it with Liz? You realize all major life aterations (moving residencies, change of jobs, births, weddings, proposals, automobile purchases) are suspended until after the postseason, right?
Superstitions and all.
And don’t start in on the “sacrifices” and “money, blah blah blah…” We all make sacrifices.
I’m wearing a fricking tiara every night, Whole Camels is stuck watching everygame at work, and poor Liz can’t pee properly.
25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark
I wore a Liz approved (no Phillies colors because I could not wear a Phillies shirt- literally Emerald and Black) outfit instead of my lucky cami. Plus I figured that the continuation of my present life state (employed) was more important. It was going to change either way, though- I am going to be laid off from my current job by 10/14 anyway.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Still working out a date. I won’t start until after this job ends (which is looking like soober rather than later), although I may have to go over for training (office is 3 blocks away, so a quick training would be a lunch break).
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Couldm’t really because of hours requirements.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Congratulations
This bodes well for all of us.
by phillyinportland on Oct 5, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought so too.
The offices for this job (where I will work on site for a couple of weeks while we are getting started) are located in the building I worked in during the 2008 World Series.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks!
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahem
The Phillies had both the highest TV ratings in MLB this year… http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/10/03/Media/MLB-RSNs.aspx
AND the highest attendance at the ballpark… http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/10/03/Research-and-Ratings/Turnstile-Tracker.aspx
Yeah, we’re awesome.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I am missing something here…
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s right, we’re all watching and coming out to the games just to see Kendrick
Giving St. Louis the bird since 1982
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 5, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Elimination Games
This is the time of year when it gets really good. The next three games played are all elimination games. ( Plus any played on Friday.) The Phillies have been pretty amazing overall when in a position to wrap up a series: 10-2 by my count and 6-1 since 2008. (Lost game three of the LDS in 2008 before wrapping it up the next game.)
by phillyinportland on Oct 5, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
I think he is talking about across MLB.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, for general purposes – Phillies, Brewers and Yankees-Tigers can all clinch in the next three games.
by phillyinportland on Oct 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I am on stealth mode following the game after all
Not sure if i will be able to post in the thread again, but I figured out how to follow the game..
Group Assignments! :-))
Hunter Pence will not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither does Carlos Beltran.
I’m at work, too.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Matt Holliday in the Cards’ lineup tonight.
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/phillies-talk/post/Game-4-lineups-Holliday-to-start?blockID=572792&feedID=704
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Special post-season exemption.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hmm if he doesn’t then I have a good guess on what his post game whining will be about for this game.
Giving St. Louis the bird since 1982
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 5, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
WHO’S DRUNK READY FOR SOME BASEBALL?
Doc, Lee, Hamels, Vance...Moyer. 2012's winning combination.
by Missing Jamie Moyer on Oct 5, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
Sober AND Ready!
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sobriety is overrated.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I can give you the name of a few state troopers who disagree.
Giving St. Louis the bird since 1982
by Veni Vidi Vici on Oct 5, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
True… But getting fired is a pretty similar buzzkill.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Oct 5, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good one.
Doc, Lee, Hamels, Vance...Moyer. 2012's winning combination.
by Missing Jamie Moyer on Oct 5, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
how would Oswalt test Holliday’s hand pitch selection wise?
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
hermaphrodite? pitched as a boy in the AL?
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So apparently Terry Francona will join Joe Buck on FOX. Tim is out the first two games. Hmmmm.
"You play to win the playoffs, and we let 'em off the hook!" -Herm Mora Green
i despise Buck, so I get nothing
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
so who is the TBS team for the NLCS? The crew with Smoltz?
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
they took out Theriot whose beeing getting hits for Holiday
dont quite understand the move
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
the shenanigans begin
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions
Stockton underplayed that one as well. Maybe he’s having a hard time judging the distance on flyballs.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions
eh, it’s the first inning, give him a break
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
asked you to tell me because I lack the cable channels brochocho. However, various illegal services will help me achieve this goal. Thank you for scouting
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I posted on your FB that it was good and worth checking out. So get on that.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
yeah you did, that’s why Im going through with it. Wonder Years came out on netflix too, I feel the need to say this again
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that show. Speaking of, I don’t know if you are a Star Wars guy, but I just purchased the original trilogy on VHS for 15 bucks. I did it because it’s the original cuts, thus, doesn’t have all the bullshit CGI. And Greedo shots first.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I just thought to myself: do i have a vcr in the house, and luckily, through my dads unwillingless to bury this damned thing, he does. We got the first three (last three chronologically while ago)
quality stuff
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda like an old cruiser that needs some miles before it warms up
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
a double and a triple. This is relevant to my interests
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
4 pitches 3 hits 2 runs 1 bruised pitcher
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
a single, double, triple
im feeling homerun
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
does howard always stand that far back?
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
Cards get a break…
i expect a return call later in the game, douche
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
looks like there is a game thread now
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 5, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
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