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Johnny Ola told me about this place!!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Nov 15, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Liz, you do not come into The Good Phight and talk to a man like taco pal like that!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Nov 15, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Does that mean the guy on the right is Ruben?
by Boundforbeach on Nov 15, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
The 2009 Playoffs. You broke my heart.
by Boundforbeach on Nov 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
As long as Gillick is alive, nothing happens to Lidge.
by lizroscher on Nov 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cole: Uno por favor…. (to Jimmy) How do you say Banana daquiri?
Jimmy: banana daiquiri.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
by Joecatz on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Heidi duckface-ing it. Other than that, great shot.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 15, 2011 12:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
“OK, everyone smile”
“They gave HOW much to Jon?”
"You play to win the playoffs, and we let 'em off the hook!" -Herm Mora Green
She is normally a brunette but most pictures have her as a blonde. I will say she looks insanely attractive in that picture.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I’m with you. She looks good there, but that face she’s making. My word.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
Makes me wonder if she was about to say something. But yeah, other than that, I definitely think she’s a stunner.
No, that’s just the Maginot Line.
Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."
by RememberthePhitans on Nov 16, 2011 12:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
After watching her on Survivor, I don’t even think of her attractiveness anymore
RIP Joey F. You were always up for a game of NHL 2011, no matter how many times I embarrassed you with the one timer. Travel safely. Cheers to a tremendous adversary who was always up for a game of hockey
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 15, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure what bugs me more, that she got naked and all it took was peanut butter and Oreos, both of which are great by the way or that after getting naked she went into that disgusting water.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
She became very sick as a result of that show. She had some form of dysentary, which doesn’t surprise me one bit.
"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn
I’m impressed. She is not bad looking at all and that kid in the second photo is adorable.
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Yeah, a distant third to Mrs. Rollins and Hamels
by FanSince1993 on Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What a douche. I can’t believe the Phillies bought it.
Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."
by RememberthePhitans on Nov 16, 2011 12:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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I had this scene in my mind as I read the caption:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYwcObxl78
Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses. Sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive
J-Roll and his wife are color coordinated too… and Heidi’s hair looks good, I don’t really like her dress… sorry, I’m a bit harsh when I look at “fashion-y” pictures. Otherwise, it’s fun to see them all together!
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I’d forgotten how good-looking Mrs. J-Roll is.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 15, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Is jimmy the shortest of the bunch?
by FanSince1993 on Nov 15, 2011 5:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
More Tony Manero than Fredo, with Heidi playing Donna whatsername
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
Is it too soon to make a Gerry Sandusky joke?
Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."
by RememberthePhitans on Nov 16, 2011 12:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sandusky walked into a bar walked into the confessional said to the cabbie knock knock what’s red and white go fuck yourself needs to just fucking die.
by Phrozen on Nov 16, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NOM Heidi Hamels
Moyer for 5th Starter in 2012.
by Missing Jamie Moyer on Nov 16, 2011 3:58 AM EST reply actions
The Phillies are close to re-signing catcher Brian Schneider, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link).
We don’t have someone in the minors who can serve this role on the cheap?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
He made I think around 1.6 mil last year. Not saying that’s a lot in the grand scheme but there has to be someone who can give you similar results for less than that.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
That’s cheap enough, and the likely performance is probably not going to be significantly different, that I’m OK with the “comfort” pick.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
That was also on a backloaded contract. The average value was more like $1.38 million.
Also I think backup catcher is the one position where we have to defer the most to a team’s judgment, since catcher defense and “pitcher-handling” is practically impossible to measure statistically.
This. Schneiders familiarity with Worley and Worleys comfort with HIM is worth an extra 500k on the year. Unless RAJ was gonna go out and spend 3-4 mm on a backup catcher as an extra bat off the bench as well (or someone who could also play 1b/LF/3B and keep 3 catchers on the roster…) this is a good thing.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
In fact, FWIW, Keith Woolner says there is no statistical evidence for significant pitcher-handling or game-calling ability (in Baseball Between the Numbers, my favorite bathroom reading)
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
Well, yeah, clearly there’s no statistical evidence for it, but is there statistical evidence against it (and in support of randomness)? I can’t imagine how anyone could possibly come up with a way to eliminate all the statistical noise so as to be able to draw a conclusion one way or the other, but maybe he did.
Arguably, if there’s a giant question mark for evaluating a part of the job, then you should ignore that whole part and make decisions on the part that you can measure (hitting). But I don’t think so. Catcher defense and pitcher-handling, especially for a backup C, is such a big part of the job that I think it’s better to take some anecdotal, unscientific evidence into consideration there, rather than looking solely at offense.
Also, there’s more to handling pitchers than in-game handling or pitch-calling. Take Schneider, for example. Last year, the story was that Schneider caught Vance Worley several times and, after observing Worley’s pitch repertoire, he noticed that Worley’s two-seam fastball was potentially a weapon. Then they worked on it and threw it more during games, and it was so effective that it became the key to his success. Obviously, all of that is totally anecdotal and unprovable. But it’s also impossible to disprove, because any evidence of pitcher-handling or game-calling ability that you could measure would be irrelevant. The observation happened from working in the bullpen together. Presumably after making this discovery (assuming that’s how it really went down), Schneider and Worley told Ruiz about it, so Ruiz started calling the two-seamer a lot too. There won’t be any evidence, whether it’s true or not. All we can go on are press reports, which are unscientific, but that doesn’t mean they’re nothing.
Now, the argument can be made that if Schneider’s greatest asset is providing help off the field, then you can hire him as a bullpen coach instead of as a backup catcher. But maybe that isn’t true. Maybe having the perspective of being behind the plate in a game is crucial to being able to help a pitcher that way. Or maybe not. Again, the point isn’t that Schneider is definitely helpful in that way. It’s just that the question marks are so big that the team should get the benefit of the doubt.
by taco pal on Nov 16, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with your perspective. Being behind the plate has to mean something, as in your example of the two-seamer, and pitcher confidence in his catcher has to mean something. To answer your question, though, statistics do seem to support randomness. In the essay, “Is Mike Matheny a Catching Genius?” the writer states that Baseball Prospectus and other sources determined there was no statistical evidence that any one seemingly effective defensive catcher could transfer his game-calling results from one pitcher or team or even season to another, including “framing” ability and controlling base-stealing. However, he says “professionals within the game insist that catchers make a gigantic difference and that the question is simply beyond the capability of statistics to find.” It’s that scene with the scouts in Moneyball… The conclusion of the essay makes sense, though: “If the professionals are right and the best game-callers are having some effect that statistics can’t measure, we still have to ask how much offensive production a team could responsibly give up to obtain such an undetectable improvement.”
Here’s more on both Schneider and the essay.
I was wondering what size animal it needed to be to not be a pitch. - Roy Oswalt
there was a big study done just this last year about “framing”, which concluded that it is in fact a skill…. it was at Baseball Prospectus, I’ll try to find it
yeah, there was a big twitter debate last night about this. A lot opf people seemed upset with the signing b/c of his horrible offensive year. Strangely enough, Murphy and I both tweeted the same statistic within minutes of one another, which was that the phils were 27-8 when he started last year (.500 ops) and 18-20 the year before (750ish OPS.)
My point was not to use wins as a reference, but rather to point out that with a backup catcher, who is going to start 40 some games, and get 125 ABs, the SS is so small, that his offensive production is almost irrelevant, and not so0mething you’re basing the signing on.
he had 3 fewer extra base hits last year than 2010, 8 fewer base hits total, and struck out a little more and walked a little less. for a 125 AB sample, that skews the statistics drastically, but it doesnt really change who he is as a hitter and a player.
If we’re gonna knock him, knock him for his Arm, not his bat.
Unless you’re going to go spend 2-3mm on a strong defensive catcher with a little more offensive upside (a guy like Schoppach or Laird comes to mind) its a perfectly fine signing, IMO.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
Right. The two main criteria for a backup catcher should be 1. Cheap, and 2. Doesn’t shit the bed. Beyond that, who cares? There aren’t any Scott Hattebergs lying around in the dumpster at this position and there isn’t that much money to be saved.
A little perspective
So I’m friends with Kelly Shoppachs wife. Have been since the first grade. Morosi and Rosenthal both tweeted this AM that Detroit was eyeing him, and were close to signing a catcher, so I called her to see if they were headed there. Detroit never spoke to him or his agent. Not even a check in.
there are a few other teams looking at him, but none you would think.
(Phils spoke to him, btw, but he’s looking for at least two years guaranteed at “more” than what we’re paying Schneider)
I don’t say this to brag that I know someone, (though ti would have been cool to see him end up in Philly, a I would have had the sweet ticket hookup for sure) I say it cause the media is wrong about 90% of the speculation this time of year.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
by Joecatz on Nov 17, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
bill james 2012 projections are out on fangraphs
Some notable ones:
Rollins: 140 G, 626 PA, 16 HR, 25 SB, 8.5% BB, 9.9% K, .155 ISO, .271 BABIP, .268/.338/.399, .329 wOBA
Reyes: 133 G, 594 PA, 10 HR, 36 SB, 7.7% BB, 8.8% K, .144 ISO, .321 BABIP, .303/.358/.447, .353 wOBA
Cuddyer: 152 G, 646 PA, 21 HR, 9.3% BB, 16.7% K, .176 ISO, .275/.346/.459, .354 wOBA
Madson: 65 G, 65.0 IP, 36 SV, 8.17 K/9, 2.35 BB/9, .314 BABIP, 3.32 ERA, 3.19 FIP
Papelbon: 58 G, 63.0 IP, 31 SV, 10.43 K/9, 2.29 BB/9, .301 BABIP, 2.43 ERA, 2.70 FIP
Mayberry: 72 G, 159 PA, 6 HR, 6.9% BB, 20.1% K, .182 ISO, .257/.313/.439, .327 wOBA
Brown: 141 G, 574 PA, 19 HR, 24 SB, 11.1% BB, 19.2% K, .180 ISO, .275/.355/.455, .356 wOBA
Utley: 134 G, 570 PA, 21 HR, 14 SB, 10.5% BB, 14.0% K, .190 ISO, .280/.375/.475, .362 wOBA
Victorino: 149 G, 646 PA, 17 HR, 24 SB, 8.4% BB, 11.9% K, .164 ISO, .277/.344/.441, .344 wOBA
Pence: 158 G, 666 PA, 25 HR, 10 SB, 8.0% BB, 18.0% K, .194 ISO, .292/.349/.486, .362 wOBA
Blanton: 26 G, 26 GS, 161.0 IP, 6.09 K/9, 2.24 BB/9, 1.09 HR/9, .313 BABIP, 4.25 ERA, 4.16 FIP
Worley: 28 G, 23 GS, 147.0 IP, 7.22 K/9, 2.94 BB/9, 0.92 HR/9, .308 BABIP, 3.86 ERA, 3.68 FIP
Kendrick: 29 G, 14 GS, 110.0 IP, 4.25 K/9, 2.37 BB/9, 1.06 HR/9, .289 BABIP, 4.25 ERA, 4.60 FIP
Bastardo: 60 G, 0 GS, 56.0 IP, 9.96 K/9, 3.86 BB/9, 0.96 HR/9, .278 BABIP, 3.05 ERA, 3.65 FIP
It makes me laugh that he predicts Kendrick and Blanton to end up with same ERA
by topherstarr on Nov 16, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
That’s in line for a sixth starter. In years when there weren’t major trades for a pitcher, the #6 guy gets 12+ starts.
Bob.
by The Dark on Nov 17, 2011 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know whether to think Utley’s predictions are bold or right in line.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 16, 2011 12:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Utley’s a big unknown at this point. Those seem slightly optimistic, though, but not outlandishly so.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
Utley since 2007
AVG OBP SLG ISO w/OBA bb% k% HR
07 . 332 .410 .566 .234 .420 8.2 14.5 22
08 .292 .380 .535 .244 .391 9.1 14.7 33
09 .282 .397 .508 .226 .402 12.8 16.0 31
10 .275 .387 .445 .169 .373 12.3 12.3 16
11 .259 .344 .425 .166 .344 8.6 10.4 11
He played 132 games in 2007. Am I missing something or is he basically predicting that he’s going to have similar power numbers to that year, walk a little bit more, strike out the same, but get on base a lot less?
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
I think rube is Knee deep in Reyes right now and nobody knows it. Or he’s gonna let the Marlins sign him, and trade for Hanley.
I just don’t think hes going to pay Jimmy what jimmy wants, or what another team is willingto give him, which is 4 years at about 12-14mm per.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
Honestly
depending on the cost in terms of the trade, I’d take hanley over either of them.
He’s 6 months younger than reyes, had an off year last season, but my goodness:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8001&position=SS
and hes guaranteed 15mm per for 3 years. its really the perfect contract.
the real question is why would Miami sign Reyes if they were going to trade Hanley? Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
I dunno. Maybe it’s exaggerated, but his reputation doesn’t sit well with me. A guy who complains to the owner about the manager leading to the manager being fired for doing his job just isn’t right.
And his contract was backloaded, so it’d be $47.5M over the three years. Not a huge difference.
Perhaps for the same reason the Braves traded away Yunel Escobar. Perhaps the Marlins don’t like the possibility of potential conflicts that could arise between Hanley and Ozzie Guillen. I don’t see much of an issue there though, I feel like they’d get along just fine.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m optimistic on Hanley. Depends on the trade, devil in the details, etc
RIP Joey F. You were always up for a game of NHL 2011, no matter how many times I embarrassed you with the one timer. Travel safely. Cheers to a tremendous adversary who was always up for a game of hockey
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 17, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
"knee deep in Reyes"
There’s a disturbing image
Cool to see Papelbon supporting his new teammate.
But he’s still a douche.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Ehhhh
RIP Joey F. You were always up for a game of NHL 2011, no matter how many times I embarrassed you with the one timer. Travel safely. Cheers to a tremendous adversary who was always up for a game of hockey
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 17, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Gibson and Maddon are managers of the year
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Celebrating over 50 years of slightly more Phils wins than losses: 1961-2011
Not really. When you take a team from 65-97 and 5th place one year to 94-68 and a division title the following year, you did something right.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 17, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
You made them “want it more.”
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I hate that concept. It basically says the players have a mindset of “Yeah, I’d like to attain the ultimate goal and have my name enshrined in history, but if you guys want it too, you can have it. I’ll live with mediocrity.”
What sort of dipshittery is that, anyway?
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Nov 17, 2011 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Heyman just tweeted that the Schneider deal is $800K + incentives. That’s actually a little lower than I expected.
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