Ben Francisco Traded to Toronto
Ben Francisco has been traded to the Toronto Blue Jays. In exchange, the Phillies are getting Frank Gailey, a 26-year old lefty reliever. He's been flitting between single-A and double-A ball since he was drafted in 2007, so...yeah.
We'll miss you, Benny Fresh. That homer in Game 3 of the NLDS was a beauty.
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’Cause the one thing we needed most was another low-minors reliever.
by Phrozen on Dec 12, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I doubt there was much of a market for Benny Fresh.
"Too much good fortune can make you smug and unaware. Happiness should be like an oasis, the greener for the desert that surrounds it." - Rachel Field
After the Nix signing, a lot of people thought Benny would end up being non-tendered. At least they got something for him.
I assumed he was gone after signing Nix and I don’t think 4th outfielders return much trade value.
"Too much good fortune can make you smug and unaware. Happiness should be like an oasis, the greener for the desert that surrounds it." - Rachel Field
I actually posted that Benny was gone, I think in the Nix thread
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
He is left handed, so he’s a lower-minors version of Mike Zagurski, I guess.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 12, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
HIgher vowel/consonant ratio in his name.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
MLB-mandated rule that we only trade with Cleveland, Toronto and Houston.
The Artist Formerly Known As The Artist Formerly Known As Michael Bourn
So Cleveland will try Sizemore to the Phils after all?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Bautista, Rasmus, and Thames are at the top of the depth charts right now. Thames looks to be the starting left fielder in the future there, so I guess Francisco’s going to be relegated to a back-up role again.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
seems kind of hasty to relegate Bautista to DH. plus they’ve got Edwin Encarnacion there, who’s probably a better hitter than Francisco (not to mention younger).
I doubt Francisco will be starting, since even outside of Bautista/Rasmus/Thames, they’ve got Rajai Davis and Travis Snider fighting for playing time.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Encarnacion is basically Francisco with slightly more power and no glove. They called him E3 for other reasons than his alliterative middle name.
well, the “no glove” is why obviously why he’s DHing.
Encarnacion isn’t a great hitter, but I do think he’s better than Francisco (although the difference is not enormous). he’s a year younger and has a 106 career/115 last year wRC+ compared with a 103 career/94 last year wRC+. I like Francisco, but I think he’s more likely to be a reserve OF than to take ABs from Encarnacion.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
They’ve got until tonight to either trade him or tender him a contract.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
since his trade value is apparently nonprospect low minor league LOOGY I’m not sure why that would make sense.
seems much, much more likely that Thames or someone else with actual trade value is the bait and Francisco is the cheap replacement.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe, but it makes more sense that Toronto would want him as a supplemental piece in a bigger deal. For example, They’ve been linked to Gio Gonzalez. Oakland could use a fairly cheap every day outfielder. obviously it would take a lot bigger haul, but as part of a PACKAGE deal, to a team that isn’t going to contend, Benny Fresh is a decent option.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
what Ruben gets for trading someone shouldn’t be considered a player’s trade value.
All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia
by Veni Vidi Vici on Dec 12, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I’m all for Ruben-bashing, but we’re talking about Ben Francisco here. his trade value is nil no matter who’s trying to swap him.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
roster - 13 position players
C – Ruiz, Schneider
1B – Howard (DL), Thome
IF – Utley, Rollins, Polanco, Valdez/Martinez, Wigginton
OF – Mayberry, Nix, Victorino, Pence
Who’s the 13th player?
SCOTT PODSEDNIK.
Obviously.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 12, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
If he has two functional legs. That’s a big if, considering his foot woes last year. Dude, if he’s the fifth outfielder next year, I’m getting a Phillies Podsednik shirsey. I was already considering an Iron Pigs Podsednik shirsey.
I <3 our rookies.
by LeepinLizardz on Dec 12, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
along with a poster of him in a pink bikini in a hot tub with his signature on your wall…
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
OK, LL, first you poach my Bob, now you’re encroaching on my Pods. We’ve got to stop liking the same players.
And before anyone wonders why, Podsednik was on one of my first rotisserie baseball teams when I was in college back in ‘04, when he decided that every base was his and he’d steal them all. I realize he’s not really that good of a baseball player overall, but sometimes even cranky bastards like me can feel affection for a player.
Bob.
Bob is your signature. You can have him. He’s yours.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not a bad call at all. The few things he’s really good for (speed, hustle, maybe bunting) are not available in that bench currently.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
beat writers seem to think that the Phils are after Ryan Spilborghs as part of the ongoing Sign Guys Who Were Good In 2008 initiative.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose he’s played more center and has a marginally better walk rate over his whole career… yeah, I don’t see much difference.
by perfectdepth on Dec 12, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
OK… What am I missing?
You named 14 guys there. Assuming Valdez and Martinez are competing for one spot, what’s the question, exactly?
I think he was saying its either Valdez OR MiniMart
But I agree with you, I think they both make the team and Wigginton is used as the 5th OFer.
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Dec 12, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well at least Gailey was born in Philly.
#SWAGGG
by secondroundpick on Dec 12, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Over under on days until some moron sees Ben Fran hit a HR or something and rants SHOULD OF KEPT BEN FRANCISCO…
To be honest, my comment has lost all value, humor, sarcastic, or otherwise. Now it just genuinely confuses me.
by Wet Luzinski on Dec 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you have an ice rink in your basement to deal with?
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Patched the pipe with JB Weld and electrical tape. That should fail about fifteen hours ago, and the plumber will be here in about a month.
Have to replace the carpet, drywall, insulation and studs. Insurance may not cover it as it’s an old (emphasis on OLD) pipe. Thin-walled. Fucking rat-bastards. Occupy AllState.
That’s AllState’s* stand, are you in good hands?
*Except Alaska, fuck those guys.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Here's what I'm looking at now
The brown stuff on the studs and on the wall to the right is rot or mildew of some kind mixed with rust from the old radiator that I’ve already ripped out. The odd discolored area under the water meter is some kind of mineral deposit. The damage extends at least across that entire room, but seems to be contained therein.
The carpet is outside in the snow.
I'll miss the Ben Francisco treat.
Thanks for your postseason clutch, Benny! Good luck!
Game 3 batting line: 1.000/1.000/5.000 with 1 HR and 3 RBIs.
Take that!
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 9:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing we’re not in the business of just giving players away…
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
Next week: Valdez traded to the Indians for a bullpen catcher and a free VHS copy of Major League 2
All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia
by Veni Vidi Vici on Dec 12, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
That actually sounds like a fair trade.
by Cormican on Dec 12, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, I have a VHS copy of Major League Two. I’ll mail it in, if I get to keep Valdez. He’d be awesome in our local adult league.
Would you guys call him Exxon?
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I’m guessing he’s going to be a roving talent-spotter in the Giants’ system. TGP readers can rest assured that we will follow and report on these developments only after they’ve properly developed.
by Wet Luzinski on Dec 12, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. The Orioles non tendered Luke Scott…
Dude had a horrible season last year, and is coming off an injury, but he put up 3.4 war, hit 27 HR’s and had a .902 ops in 2010..
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
.387 wOBA, too. Wow.
.250 BABIP didn’t help at all, but most of his periphs indicate he just was a little bit unlucky in half a season’s worth of at-bats.
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I say add him to the Lazy Susan of First Basemen. Once upon a time, I’d agree that $6.4MM for that age 33 unlucky train wreck would make me edgy too. Now he’s sort of a bargain, huh?
by Wet Luzinski on Dec 12, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know it was cheap, but this is where the lance nix deal kinda doesn’t make much sense to me.
"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP
Interesting indeed.
Of course, before Ruben offers him anything, he’ll need to SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, eh Luke?
I love that was the first thing that came up when I punched in “Luke Scott.”
Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.
by TheOrangeCone on Dec 12, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Isn’t that the crazy racist guy though?
Its all about the []_[]
#FirePaulHolmgren
by philiafan14364 on Dec 13, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I heard he was Muslim. Pass.
Seriously, for those 2010 numbers I’d be willing to hold my nose and take a flyer.
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by schmenkman on Dec 13, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, Ruben...
Be very wary of trading with Alex Anthopoulos. It’s like playing with fire — you will eventually get burned.
Did we learn nothing from the Trojan War? Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, dammit!
Bob.
by The Dark on Dec 13, 2011 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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