The Good Phight Fantasy Baseball 2011
Pitchers and catchers reported last weekend. Spring Training games begin next weekend. But for the truly obsessed, baseball isn't really here until fake teams have been drafted and the smack talk has begun in earnest. Well, by popular demand, it's back! Now is your chance to apply for entry into the legendary TGP Fantasy Baseball league.
Unfortunately, we no longer have the sweet deal with CBSsports.com for a free commissioners league, which means we will need to find a new venue to host our yearly extravaganza. Not to fear. We'll take our talents elsewhere.
[UPDATE by FuquaManuel, 02/21/11 5:18 PM EST] Turns out we'll be using CBSsports.com after all. I took down the poll because it's not relevant anymore.
After the jump: league info, instructions for applying, and a poll...
General Info:
I'd like this year's league to be neither super competitive nor super relaxed, but somewhere in the middle. I've always hated participating in leagues where half of the managers have abandoned their teams by May, so if you don't plan on staying at least somewhat involved through the whole season, don't apply. On the other hand, there is no money at stake, so it won't be too intense. All that's in it for you is (hopefully) a roaring good time and the eternal respect of the TGP community (and perhaps a small prize) should you be lucky enough to win.
We'll be using a roto format (as opposed to head-to-head) with anywhere from 12 to 20 teams, depending on demand. The statistical categories that will be used are still TBD, but this being a SABR-slanted blog, be advised that the league scoring will likely also be somewhat SABR-slanted. Once we've picked all of the participants, we'll set the other league rules and pick a time and date for the live draft.
To Apply:
Returning managers from last year's league will get dibs:
ThinMountainAir
BudVugger
j reed
Remember the Phitans
LondonPhillie
Jose and the Contrarians
Alex Falzone
Wet Luzinski
Chris Haines
Walcott
Cormican
The Dark
jonk
WholeCamels has already bowed out this year, but if you are one of these people and you'd like to play again, reply in the comments with "re-up" in the subject line.
If you didn't play last year and want in this season, reply in the comments with "YAY GUYS!" in the subject line and give me your best baseball-related haiku. I can't guarantee everyone a spot, and preference will be given to long-standing members of the community, so channel your inner Wet Luzinski.
Applications will close at 8 PM on Sunday, February 27th.
Finally, please vote in the poll below so we can decide which platform to use.
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YAY GUYS!
Aces rock the mound
Cookies can get no respect
Haterz gonna hate
by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 19, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions
Re-up
Nice pic.
I’ve only played cbs.sportsline so I know little about Yahoo’s or Espn’s league. Which ever league we can tailor to TGP’s SABRmindness I’m down with.
The stats that they offer seem pretty much the same. No FIP, though.
I’m thinking stuff like OBP, total bases, net steals for offense and Quality starts, total K, K/BB are saber-y enough to put a good twist on it.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 19, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
No FIP. Shucks. I got by with an entire staff of No. 2’s and 3’s because of FIP. Well if Yahoo and ESPN are the same statwise I’ll go with what EREX21 said about ESPN in RTP’s post and vote accordingly.
Yeah, apart from Roy Halladay, I got by with guys who put up crazy strikeout numbers and had no control (Brandon Morrow, Gavin Floyd, etc). FIP was good to me.
by ThinMountainAir on Feb 20, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
re-up
im nasty yahoo is weak espn is so much better but its whatever
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 19, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Reading instructions FAIL.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 19, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Good fight needs me in fb
Yankees need cliff lee
2011 world champs I’m glee
I tried
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ive been gettin money since barkley played for us - cassidy
by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 20, 2011 12:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yay guys
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ive been gettin money since barkley played for us - cassidy
by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 20, 2011 12:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
@ grizz
Baseball is played in spring
It does wonders all the way to fall
Phillies will win it all
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 21, 2011 6:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The three lines in a haiku go: 5 syllables, 7 syllables, 5 syllables.
by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 21, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Epic fail brahh
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 21, 2011 8:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Rangers or Yankees?
Fuck, who cares about Cliff Lee?
Oh My God! CLIFF LEE!!!!!!!!!!
by BwH_ on Feb 19, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And just for fun, my own haiku:
A hot pocket is
a most delectable treat.
Eat slow, Joe Blanton.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 19, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
YAY GUYS!
Who doubts that the Phour
put the team on their backs, doh?
Greg Jennings sure don’t.
"We definitley can't lose anymore games."
-Charlie Manuel
Re-up
The Mighty Cliff Lee
Better Wiser Than Younger
World Series Bound He Is
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Feb 20, 2011 12:11 AM EST reply actions
re-up
Steinbrenner is dead
RememberThePhitans lives
Prepare to be pwn3d.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Feb 20, 2011 12:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Cookies and Schmitters.
Phillies baseball has returned.
Jose Reyes, douche.
BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Because I always love The Wire references, and with all due respect to FM...

BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
the wire is the show brahh
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 20, 2011 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Baseball back again
Cookies and the gang will pwn
Haikus hurt my head
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Feb 20, 2011 1:33 AM EST reply actions
YAY GUYS!
1 6 2 and 0
Fat Joe and the Terror Squad
More ice-cream for Chooch
not tellin you how to run this but you should pick the person for the league on how much there involved with the blog ie fanshots fanposts comments
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 20, 2011 3:32 AM EST reply actions
As I said in the post, long-standing members of the community will get preference.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 20, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Not telling you how to run this (but I am) but I think people who understand the difference between there and they’re and their should have preference, they’re more likely to field a competitive team
by SportingFanaticism on Feb 20, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Until I actually tried this, I would have absolutely agreed with you.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 20, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I learned long ago to stay out of fantasy sports, I just don’t have the attention or desire to pay attention all season long – be it setting or changing rosters. I gave up nfl after the rams won the super bowl (i even won that year) baseball a few years after that and I’m basically in on NBA league because it’s a keeper league that I don’t want to be a douche and cancel on
by SportingFanaticism on Feb 20, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m kind of torn about re-entering this year for much of those reasons, but I’m going to try to apply the lesson I learned last year with respect to pace. While being on it every day is too much, a weekly or even bi-weekly re-tweaking of rosters, off-days, hot bullpen hands, etc., is enough over a six-month season.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 20, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
i should really pay attention more lol my bad
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 20, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Three after three, by the star-dogged moon,
Too quick for groan or sigh,
Each turned his face and an unused bat,
And cursed them with his eye.
Four times twenty-seven living men,
And we heard no sigh nor groan
With cutter curve and change-of-pace
They sat down one by one.
With apologies to F.M. for breaking his rules and to S.T. Coleridge for abusing his epic with such tripe.
YAY GUYS!
With a true fear of following up Phrozen’s appropriation:
What good do stats serve
If they prove in a vacuum?
SABR, win me pride.
And, loosely connected:
If ref to the Wire
Will serve, will I be shameless?
Two words: “Oh indeed.”
YAY GUYS!
On TGP:
The Good Phight: stats, verse
Express themselves freely and
Hold hands in public.
On the pitching:
The aces and Joe
Really, who needs a bullpen?
Hold on to your butts.
On the offense:
Don’t forget! We still
Can score, you know, tons of runs!
No questions asked, brah.
On me:
I wrote four haikus.
I clearly have the time for
Fantasy baseball.
Also, I have played head-to-head on Yahoo before and it’s pretty good (last year was my rookie season, but I’m hoping to do as well this year and avoid the sophomore slump). My husband has played head-to-head on ESPN before, but likes Yahoo more. We’ll both be in (probably various) Yahoo leagues this year. Never played rotisserie before, but I really want to try one.
Training for the Phillies 5K Run on March 26th. Hoping I don't embarrass myself :-)
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 20, 2011 9:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
YAY GUYS!
The Phillies are fun.
Roy Halladay is funner.
Baseball is funnest.
Jesus Christ, that sucked.
YAY GUYS!
Cole, Joe, Roy’s, and Cliff
were smugly brought to Philly
Hail the Great Amaro.
by philsandthrills on Feb 20, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions
Oops
Ack, I need to count.
Cole, Joe, Roy’s, and Cliff
were smugly brought to Philly
All Hail Amaro.
by philsandthrills on Feb 20, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Re-up
May offense wake up
May the injuries be few
The World Phucking Champs
Almost all my leagues are Yahoo, but they are all basic setting ones. Not sure how in-depth stat wise Yahoo is.
How's your wife and my kids?
It’s not that great stat-wise, but neither is ESPN.
Still, there is enough there to make it somewhat sabr-friendly.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 20, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Pitcher wins are dumb
They measure team’s offense more
than the pitcher’s skill
El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!
YAY GUYS!
Pitcher wins are dumb
They measure team’s offense more
than the pitcher’s skill
El Camino! El El Camino!
The front is like a car, the back is like a truck!
The front is where you drive, the back is where you
El Camino! El El Camino!
Re-up
I will be wiser
I will not waste my first pick
On Derek Jeter
by ThinMountainAir on Feb 20, 2011 3:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Come to think of it
Burnett was also awful
Lesson: Yankees suck.
by ThinMountainAir on Feb 20, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would advise using Yahoo but that’s only because I find ESPN.com more evil.
I’m surprised SBNation doesn’t get into the fantasy game universe. Seems like a natural progression.
by SportingFanaticism on Feb 20, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions
Kendry Morales
broke his leg on a grand slam.
Fantasy blows.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 20, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Tried being Sabean
late in the season. But Ross
did nothing for me.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 20, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Gave up Bret Myers
Bud Vug happily claim him
Wet helped my team win
How's your wife and my kids?
by BudVugger on Feb 20, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All that’s in it for you is (hopefully) a roaring good time and the eternal respect of the TGP community (and perhaps a small prize) should you be lucky enough to win.
I was Disgust-level smug last year for a few days after I won. It was great.
by ThinMountainAir on Feb 20, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions
Yay Guys
My team last year was
Led by Doc, Utley, and Cole
So close, but no luck.
Yay Guys
In fantasy drafts,
I take too many Phillies.
Chooch in the first round??
I don’t quite understand it, but in the CBS league from last year , it has me still having the same team. And it is letting me set my line-up for the start of the season on 3-31 . I tried a add/drop and it gave me the message that the commish has not activated waivers yet.
Kinda weird.
How's your wife and my kids?
Sine, cosine, tangent
Are the fundamentals of
Trigonometry.
by FearTheTurtIe on Feb 21, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
My first “real” use of a computer (besides playing Microleague baseball) as to program it to solve trigonometry problems for me. My relatively enlightened teacher was satisfied that if I could program it to do my homework (I showed and explained the code to her) that I knew how to do the problems. Other than they day her blouse fell open in class, that was the best part of trig.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Feb 21, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Her blouse fell open
in trigonometry,
tuned into my waves.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 26, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
So far
There are reups from:
1. Jreed
2. Me 4779
3. JoseNTC
4. Walcott
5. BudVugger
6. ThinMountainAir
7. WetLuzinski
N00bs:
1. FM
2. Eaglesadvocate 81
3. PhilyEaglesFan 328
4. BWH_ 1
5. Dugbam 129
6. EREX21 4919
7. Howard is better than Pujols 200
8. 2008 WFC 1
9. dannijd 6746
10. Phrozen 2124
11. Trev223 1058
12. LeepinLizardz 3143
13. CBPhresh 9
14. Chase8008 1021
15. philsandthrills 4319
16. Outtahere 141
17. Airedale260 197
18. NIcksome 95 1
19. Feartheturtle 1930
20. TheGrizz 12
Still waiting on vet re-ups plus others. Deadline of 2/27/11, per FM’s post.
I’d like to avoid zombie teams (from non-participating owners, not just from having Brandon Wood at 3b), so long-term dedication to the cause ought to factor in.
Too many teams will be unwieldy. 16 has the right feel to it. There were 14 teams last year. I think expansion to 16 won’t hurt things. Saves are tricky with slightly less than 2 MLB teams per roto player, but there are enough slush closers (injuries, bad closers getting replaced, and the Orioles) to work that out.
16 teams?
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Feb 21, 2011 5:18 PM EST reply actions
I was thinking 20 teams would actually be kinda cool, but how about 18?
As for the saves thing, the saves+holds stat is great because it solves the tendency for fantasy baseball to undervalue ace setup guys (i.e. Ryan Madson) while also making up for the lack of closer depth out there.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
There was also a quirk to the league last year where we could essentially stash two guys on our injured reserves who functioned as additional bench players. Rosters could be thinned by one to allow for expansion. But my hunch is that 20 teams will really demand involved owners, because there just won’t be much left in the free agent pile midseason if your team suffers a debilitating injury (see Morales, Kendry), so we’ll have to have more trading action.
Agree about saves and holds. There is some skew toward better teams, but it’s not as pronounced as with saves.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 22, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
YAYGUYS!
((to make up for my earlier flippance, and to ask a legitimate question…))
What does the number
In red, after each name mean?
Clicks give no result.
Also, what’s the downside of having more teams? Is it too much to manage? Serious question—I’m honestly not being a wiseass here.
Aside from diluting the strength of the teams a bit, nothing really.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
Feeling left out
I think I should be on that list of N00bs – I think I was left out because I posted my haiku right before this list was posted. Or because my haiku sucked, could be anything. Just want to make sure that I get my name in the drawing or limerick-off or pop-n-lock marathon or whatever is used to pick the new league members.
by garry maddox on Feb 21, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like the comments thing is not the best way to gauge it, but that you should also look at the time as a member. I have but a few hundred comments, but have been a member since sept of 2009, and had been reading the blog daily since the beginning of the world series (win) season.
As a few members of bleeding green nation prove, comment quantity is not indicative of commitment, or even being a real human.
Just my two cents
"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone
by layout ultimate on Feb 21, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, don’t worry. The strength of your candidacy will be judged on several dimensions.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Feb 21, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Not just counting stats, eh? How SABR…
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Feb 22, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer to be judged only in dimensions above the 5th
Me and bucakaroo
by SportingFanaticism on Feb 22, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
“As a few members of bleeding green nation prove, comment quantity is not indicative of commitment, or even being a real human.”—Great line.
by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 21, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I try
"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone
by layout ultimate on Feb 22, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
i don’t know what the roster size was last year but if you’re concerned about dilution with an expanded league maybe make the roster limit lower by 1 or 2 spots. plus the more spots open the better chance i have of getting in.
injured reserve
This year, IR should probably be limited to players who are actually injured. That would help with dilution issues, too.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Feb 21, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be careful about expanding too far. I was in a 16 team league last year with nearly standard Yahoo! rosters and it was the least fun league I had ever been in. Of course it is all just personal preference, but the talent pool was really diluted, and if anyone on your team got hurt, there was absolutely no help available in the free agent pool.
All of the worthwhile players were on teams, so the final standings came down to simply how well you did on draft day, and there’s a lot of luck involved there. Of course I had terrible luck with injuries and underperforming (thank you Mr. Utley) so I ended up being up a river without a paddle all season.
Then again as I said, that’s all personal preference. Had I done better all season I might assess the league differently, but adding guys like Ross Ohlendorf and Nyjer Morgan isn’t fun for me.
One could also say it is more reflective of real life in this respect. On a real baseball team, if one of your starters go down, you’re likely to get only a replacement-level player to fill his spot.
I can see both sides of the coin on this one though.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
Yeay Guys!
Cliff Lee and his strain
Will nevertheless throw Ks
WFCs once again
By the way, I am sure there are enough people here to fill up 5 leagues. Anyone who does not get into the ‘main’ league want to start up some side ones?
YAY GUYS
The moment of truth
Utley digs in with two outs
That balls outta here!!!!!
I know this is my first post, but i am a long time reader of the site. Please don’t hold it against me to much!
Poetry always welcome, even if it is incentivized poetry. But this is good! Welcome.
by Wet Luzinski on Feb 23, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
yay guys
Hey MLB, All
your Ace are belong to us
Traded for some tools
"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone
by layout ultimate on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 AM EST reply actions
How many tools? All five tools?
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Feb 23, 2011 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
YAY GUYS
Cole Hamels Struggles
I Cry Wolf, Makes Me Look Bad
I Hate Being Wrong
inter arma enim silent leges
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 22, 2011 10:32 PM EST reply actions
YAY GUYS!
An Ode to Smug
You think you’re so smart.
"Please, trade Werth and call up Brown."
"Doc throws way too much."
"J-Roll’s not that good."
"Why would you trade Lee away?"
"Utley’s getting old."
What’s wrong with people?
Why will nobody trust me?
What else can I do?
And yet, I don’t care.
I don’t need your approval.
I can do my job.
I got Lee again,
Traded for both of the Roys,
Our rotation’s stacked.
Complain all you want.
You will all love me REAL soon.
Much love, RAJ.
by TheOrangeCone on Feb 23, 2011 2:50 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thanks. I took time out of midterm studying to write it.
It was worth it.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Feb 27, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
YAY GUYS!
Daal was once our ace,
Travis was the best PhilLee,
What tens years can do!
by Won'tYouBeADaal? on Feb 23, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions
Re-up
I was afraid I was out after spending a week in the Bahamas and missing a deadline to join. I look forward to another season of statistical mediocrity.
YAY GUYS!
Halladays of spring
‘Fore a year of bells and rings
Cutter, batter’s out
I’m new, and the only reason I’m this late to the blog is because of The Fightins related PTSD due to it closing down on my birthday. If I’d managed to rouse myself from the depths of despair earlier I would have an established track record of contributions. Really really.

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