Phillies Payroll Chart

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 11:43 AM EST

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Options are italicized. Team options have one asterisk. Mutual options have two. Vesting options have a pound sign.

Any estimates on likely arbitration awards and settlements would be appreciated in the comments.

Player	2011	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017
Howard	20.00	20.00	20.00	25.00	25.00	25.00	23/10*
Halladay	20.00	20.00	20.00	20.00#
Oswalt	16.00	16/2**
Utley	15.00	15.00	15.00
Lidge	11.50	12.5/1.5*
Ibanez	11.50
Lee	11.00	21.50	25.00	25.00	25.00	27.5/12.5#
Hamels	9.50	ARB-4
Blanton	8.50	8.50
Rollins	8.50
Victorino	7.50	9.50
Polanco	5.25	6.25	5.5/1**
Madson	4.50
Ruiz	2.75	3.70	5/.5*
Baez	2.75
Contreras	2.50	2.50	2.5/.5*
Kendrick	2.45
Gload	1.60
Schneider	1.50
Romero	1.35
Francisco	1.18	ARB-2	ARB-3
Brown	0.41	0.43	0.45	ARB-1	ARB-2	ARB-3
Valdez	0.41
Xtra Man 1	0.41
Xtra Man 2	0.41
Guaranteed	167.47	110.88	82.45	50.00	50.00	37.50	10.00
Options	0.00	25.00	8.50	20.00	0.00	15.00	N/A
Est. Arb.	0.00	?	?	?	?	?	N/A

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Thought I was over the Howard deal until now. Sh*t.

by Mace Chutney on Feb 25, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions

It is what it is. The good news is that at the budget levels the Phillies are currently at (and will hopefully stay at), it isn’t a team killer. $23 average over five years is too high, but I don’t think very many people would have begrudged him, say, $15 per. So essentially it has the same effect as lowering the Phillies’ future budgets from ($167 + growth/inflation) to ($159 + growth/inflation). Not a good thing, but whatever.

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions

For some reason I thought Chooch was in the $7M range. Wow. He’s an absolute steal at $2.75M!

by Phrozen on Feb 25, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions

Just corrected a mistake on Polanco

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions

2012

The following positions are filled, for now: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, CF, RF, SP1-4 (Total = $108.35 + Hamels Arb)

Assume bench and bullpen stay same price except Francisco gets raise (Total = $13.35 + Francisco Arb)

The following positions need to be filled: SS (Rollins), LF (Ibanez), SP5 (Oswalt), Closer (Lidge), Setup (Madson). If the budget stays constant (no growth, no inflation), there will be about ($45 – Hamels – Francisco) to work with.

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions

plan

I’d give Hamels a long-term deal: would $17-per be fair? And then let’s say Francisco gets 300 PAs this year and ends up with a $3 mill arb settlement in 2012.

I’d also re-sign Madson to be the closer ($10-per?) and let Lidge walk.

Then I’d try to cut bench/bullpen from $13.35 to $10.00. Seems doable. And let’s say the overall budget will go up by $6.65, to make it a round number.

This would leave $25 mill for SS (Rollins?), LF, SP5 (Oswalt?), and Setup. I’d re-sign Rollins for sure, but I don’t know how I’d allocate the rest. Depends on how certain prospects do, I guess.

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions

Are we assuming Rollins is at a discount than what he currently is at, and if that, how much lower can we expect his salary to be for an aging SS?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 1, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions

He’s currently already at a deep discount so I’m not sure I understand the question.

by taco pal on Mar 1, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions

I’m just curious as to how much of that 25 million you see Rollins taking up TP

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 1, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions

No idea. 10?

by taco pal on Mar 1, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions

I’m hoping that the Phils can grow a set-up man out of the system and grow a #5 out of the system (letting Oswalt walk would be a kick in the nuts, but even the 4 of Hamels, Lee, Blanton and Halladay would still be the best if not one of the best rotations in baseball

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 1, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah I’m leaning that way too.

by taco pal on Mar 1, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions

I figure #5 is either a re-signed Kendrick, Worley or an outside chance for someone like JC Ramirez.

by Cormican on Mar 1, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions

Everyone, please rec this so it stays at the top of the fanposts section for a while.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Feb 25, 2011 12:48 PM EST reply actions

Thanks folks. Looks like it’s got enough.

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions

Are the Phillies paying anything to anyone no longer on the roster any more?

by yolacrary on Feb 25, 2011 1:42 PM EST reply actions

don’t think so

by taco pal on Feb 25, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions

Nope

BOILER UP!! 2010-2011

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by EREX21 on Mar 1, 2011 7:26 AM EST up reply actions

So a good half a year nets an allegedly 39 year old pitcher a 2 year contract with a third option year?

No wonder we have a boarder problem.

by philiafan14364 on Feb 25, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions

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by yolacrary on Feb 25, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions

what

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by WholeCamels on Feb 25, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions

Are you talking about Contreras?

And why do we have a boarder problem? All the snowboarders, surfboarders and skateboarders I know are great. Plus the boarders who board in other peoples houses, as well as the boarders who own sawmills and make boards. I suppose we might have a problem with boarders boarding us, but given that they’re likely to be armed only with cutlasses and have peglegs, I’m not worried.

by Phrozen on Feb 25, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions

Contreras >> 2010 Baez and cheaper. I still think we need younger and cheaper arms in the pen, a la Madson (or the Braves’ pen). Not resigning Durbin IMO was a good move.

by Mace Chutney on Feb 26, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions