TGP's Phillies Top 30 Prospects, '11 Edition: #20 thru #11
[Part III of a four-part series]
While we count down our Top 30 prospects here at TGP, Phuture Phillies is starting at the other end, introducing his prospects 1 through 6 over the past few days. If you haven't gotten your prospect fix after reading this, I'd highly suggest you head over there for some great in-depth analysis.
In the meantime, check below the jump as we find a place on our Top 30 for a couple of speedy switch-hitting second basemen, this past year's 20th round draft pick, and the next great hope for a home grown third baseman.
20.) Josh Zeid, RHP, Reading
On one hand, it's tough to read a lot into a 23-year old dominating Low A in a relief role. On the other, Zeid impressed in the Arizona Fall League, and reports have him moving consistently into the 93 to 94 range with his fastball out of the bullpen, so there's some back of the bullpen potential here. In 107.1 innings for Lakewood, the Tulane product posted a line of 9.3 K/9, 2.3 BB/9, 0.59 HR/9, 45% GB, and a 2.85 FIP, and followed that up with a 12:1 K:BB in 14 AFL innings. The 6'5", 210-lb. righty only pitched 106 innings in his college career, so he strikes me as something of a late bloomer who could move quickly as he gets more innings under his belt.
19.) Harold Garcia, 2B-S, Reading
Bello, as TGP poet laureate Wet Luzinski is fond of calling Harold, had himself quite a 2010, setting a new Florida State League record with a 37-game hit streak en route to a .305/.365/.441 campaign split between Clearwater and Reading. Garcia has solid speed (29 SB in 2010 at a 72.5% success rate), a good glove (+16 Total Zone in his career), and enough pull power to turn on mistake pitches (.136 ISO last year), though he is a bit of a freeswinger (7.3% BB, 21.3% K in his career). Bello probably profiles best as a superutility guy, and in that vein, it would be good to get him some glovework both at the hot corner and in the outfield in 2011.
18.) Kevin Walter, RHP, Lakewood
If you're keeping score at home, Walter checks in as the highest ranked 2010 draftee behind 1st round pick Jesse Biddle. At 6'6", 220 lbs., the Colorado high school product has the projection the Phillies covet, so there's hope that his fastball will tick up from its current high-80s velocity as he matures. He throws on a downhill plane and has an advanced feel for two breaking pitches, and scouting reports have praised his athleticism, so he's got the raw tools to project as a front-end starter. The club has had recent success with lanky prep righthanders signed to above slot deals (see, e.g., May, Trevor; Cosart, Jarred; and Colvin, Brody), and Walter is the best bet to follow in that line.
17.) J.C. Ramirez, RHP, Reading
In installing Ramirez at #3 in last year's Top 30, I predicted a big bounceback from a shaky 2009 in the hitter-friendly California League. It never quite materialized, as while Ramirez was solid in 142.0 innings split between Clearwater and Reading, he was by no means spectacular, posting a 3.54 FIP to go along with a 7.3 K/9, 2.6 BB/9, 0.82 HR/9, and a 37% GB rate. The pronounced platoon split is still there, indicating that Ramirez hasn't made much progress with his change up, and unless he can do that, he's hurtling slowly toward bullpen duty. Ramirez is still just 22, so it's too early to give up on him as a starter, but 2011 will be an important year for him.
16.) Matt Rizzotti, 1B-L, Lehigh Valley
2010 was an unqualified success for Rizzotti, who hit .343/.430/.545 across three levels, with the majority of those plate appearances coming in Double-A. It was in Reading that the 6'5", 235-lb. slugger finally found his power stroke, posting an impressive .271 ISO and clubbing 16 home runs in just 310 plate appearances, and putting himself firmly on the prospect map. As a first baseman with an iffy glove, Rizzotti's upside is limited to that of second division starter, but he's got a higher floor than just about anyone else on this list, and that's definitely worth something. Unfortunately for Rizzotti, Ryan Howard isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
15.) Cesar Hernandez, 2B-S, Lakewood
The Venezuelan speedster had a breakout 2010 campaign in Williamsport, hitting .318/.383/.384 (good for a 136 wRC+) and swiping 32 bases at an 82.4% success rate. Hernandez demonstrates excellent control of the strike zone (9.1% BB, 10.6% K last season), but like any slap hitter (.067 ISO), the worry going forward is that he'll get the bat knocked out of his hands by pitchers at higher levels. The switch hitter will take on full season ball in 2011, and while he's a couple of years away from the majors, he's got ultimate upside in the mold of an early career Luis Castillo.
14.) Domingo Santana, OF-R, Lakewood
Tackling the South Atlantic League as a 17-year old proved to be a bridge too far for Santana, who struggled to a .182/.322/.297 line in 49 games at the level. Unfortunately, the New York-Penn League didn't prove much easier, with Santana managing just a .237/.336/.366 line in 54 games there. The 6'5", 200-lb. Santana still has plus raw power, and even in the midst of his 2010 struggles he still exhibited a patient approach (12.5% BB) -- the key will be whether he can make enough contact to make the whole thing work, as his career 42.5% K attests to. More than anything, remember that Santana is only as old as a high school senior, so he has plenty of time to develop.
13.) Julio Rodriguez, RHP, Lakewood
The real question with Rodriguez is whether the late season velocity bump reported in some places is going to stick. The righthander's performance record in 2010 was impeccable, as across 109.1 Williamsport and Lakewood innings, he managed 12.6 K/9, 3.7 BB/9, 0.40 HR/9, and 47% GB, all of which added up to an impressive 2.11 FIP. But righties who throw high-80s just don't make it as major league starters (a few outliers aside), so the radar gun in Lakewood will bear monitoring this season -- if Rodriguez's raw stuff has indeed taken a leap from his high school days, then he has definite starting possibilities going forward.
12.) Aaron Altherr, 3B-R, Lakewood
Altherr was yet another raw high school athlete the club took as an outfielder, but has showed surprising hitting aptitude thus far in his brief career, controlling the strike zone reasonably well (6.0% K, 17.1% BB in 317 career plate appearances) and managing a .297/.339/.411 across the Gulf Coast League and NYPL in 2010. It recently emerged that the Phillies are going to have the 6'5", 190-lb. Altherr try his hand at the hot corner, and as Phuture Phillies noted, it's not a stretch to think that the erstwhile high school shortstop has a shot to stick at the position. How he fares both offensively and defensively in full season ball will tell us a lot about his future.
11.) Phillippe Aumont, RHP, Reading
Moving the big Canadian righthander to the rotation and pushing him to Double-A backfired on the organization, as Aumont struggled with his new mechanics, repertoire and role to the tune of a 5.37 FIP and 38:38 K:BB in 49.1 innings in Reading. He was a bit more successful after demotion to Clearwater, but he still had command problems, and the whole year was a pretty forgetful one. He's back in the bullpen now, and if the club has him scrap the three-quarters delivery, both his fastball and breaking ball should really play up in short stints. He'll never be the front of the rotation workhorse that was projected for him out of high school, but he can absolutely be a back of the bullpen reliever.
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Be sure to check back Friday as we count down to Dom Brown.
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Does Domingo Sanata really have good plate discipline
Or does he just not swing at anything? I haven’t seen him play, so I’m not speaking from any first hand knowledge. Has anyone seen him or read any scouting reports detailing his plate approach? I see the ridiculously high K and BB numbers and wonder if he’s just getting walks because he doesn’t swing at all, as opposed to some selectivity in what he swings at (that would also, partially, explain a high K rate).
I can’t find it now, but I remembered reading a game report on Phuture Phillies that said Santana showed a pretty patient approach. He definitely has some issues making contact, but the impression I get from what I’ve read is that he has a good idea of what he’s doing at the plate, and that a lot of his issues stem from how aggressively he was pushed.
To me, Rizzotti and Aumont look a little, but only by a few slots, so no major quibbles.
I’m not sure about Lakewood for Walter. As a cold weather Pitcher I would expect some extended Spring Training followed by either Williamsport or Lakewood. That has been the team’s MO for Starters of late, to limit innings some for young guys to preserve their arms.
I’m severely excited about Altherr. We may be having Singleton like prospectgasms following his progress next year. If he can stick defensively, he will be THE key prospect in the system.
I think you’re right on Walter, and I think Biddle is in the same situation — they’ll start in extended spring training to keep their innings down — but I think they’ll both wind up in Lakewood after that, so that’s what I’m listing.
Altherr Wildcard
The rankings from BA (I think) seemed surprising to me. He has only 2 HR is 300+ PAs but apparently the scouting community likes him.
Due to the lack of any other interesting 3B and Polanco’s age, he will certainly be wished-up as a prospect from Phillies phans. After Hewitt’s major slide, Altherr gets a shot at 3B.
The most significant hole though is at SS. There is no replacement for Rollins, who may be in his last year. Galvis cannot hit and Valdez is not much better. Garcia cannot play SS for a full season and Hernandez has been at 2B for 3 years. Trades of Cardenas and Donald who were limited at SS and last season of Villar, have really left the system barren.
Yeah, that’s why you should re-sign Rollins.
I’m not so worried about this long-term as others are. It’s a problem, but at the same time you’re never going to have full minor league coverage of every position on the diamond. If we develop three good outfielders but are forced to go out and waste money on a FA shortstop, that’s no different than developing only two good outfielders and a shortstop and having to waste money on a FA third outfielder.
If it’s harder to find a FA shortstop than a FA outfielder, that doesn’t really matter. If there’s a shortage of good shortstops, that necessarily means that standards are low at that position all around MLB. It doesn’t matter how good your players are in absolute terms, all that matters is how good they are relative to their peers.
Heck no we don’t have to re-sign Rollens. We have Valdez. Valdex for MVP and the phantastic phour and World series champs
Training for the Phillies 5K Run on March 26th. Hoping I don't embarrass myself :-)
by LeepinLizardz on Feb 11, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Kevin Walter
Admittedly, I don’t follow the draft closely because I don’t know any of the players beforehand, so it’s tough for me to get interested. But this is the first I’ve heard of this guy, and he seems like quite a stretch in this slot. It’s fine to say he could be a sleeper if that FB velocity develops as the Phillies hope, but I don’t think it’s really accurate to say that he has “the raw tools to project as a front-end starter.”
However, I’m glad you brought my attention to him. I’ll be watching the MiL boxscores with interest.
Walter to NYP
I guess I could see the Phils jumping him to Lakewood because of his advanced approach and feel for off-speed stuff. I think his performance in extending spring training will determine where he goes.
Unlike Colvin who was valued as a Supp 1st Rounder, Walter has a lesser pedigree. I think it is more likely that he advances slower and with the number of college arms drafted last year that will likely be in Lakewood (Pettis, Buchanan, Hollands, Claypool, Borup), I could see him at NYP then maybe boosted to Lakewood for a couple starts.
Looks like
It will be the same top 10 as phuturephillies… It will be interesting how you stack up singleton cosart and colvin.
Quick list of guys who made Sickels’ honorable mentions but who aren’t in PF’s top 30 or honorable mentions.
Mario Hollands
Brian Pointer
Drew Carpenter
Also, some guys who made neither list:
David Buchanan (highest 2010 draft pick not to make it)
Miguel Alvarez (hit .329 in W-Port last year, albeit with no walks and no HRs)
Cody Overbeck (24 HR between A+ and AA last year at age 24)
recent Latin America signings like Maikol Franco and others
Not saying I disagree with any of these. Just sayin’.
Any chance he’ll be a useful player at the ML level, or is it too early to tell? I mean, aside from Altherr is he the only quasi-interesting 3B in the system?
Singleton #12
I’m sure you guys have already seen the Top 100 at Fanhouse, but it had Singleton at #12 which was the highest I’ve seen him ranked by any publication this offseason. Thought it was a little high but I’m not going to argue. FWIW Brown was #6.
Thanks for the tip. Here’s the link, everyone. No need for a separate fanshot, I guess. Singleton was actually #11!
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2011/02/09/baseballs-top-100-prospects-of-2011/
Brown 6, Singleton 11, Cosart 37, Colvin 82
Thanks for climbing on board the Bello nickname bandwagon. There just need to be more and better nicknames in baseball than there are now. I believe Bello would sound great shouted in unison, a sound wholly different from the “Lou”/“Chooch”/“Rauuul” long “U” sound.
Pettis (a hunchy, quasi-sleeper), Schwimer (for his smarts and his blog posts about how he breaks down a batter), and Garcia may fill my cup of prospect-y goodness this year. On the outside looking in: Jiwan James (just love tracking his SB and CS numbers) and maybe Joel Naughton.
Good List and Explanations
I can see Zeid’s AFL performance bumping him up the prospect list. That was a good call on Phils part sending him there. I’d like to see him as a starter at Reading but he may be fast tracked to a reliever role. (I tend to like Hyatt more but he is likely a lesser talent.)
Garcia seems like a tough player to rank. He has been too old everywhere but .300 hitter and last year a good fielder. The BB/K is an issue but the speed is pretty good. (Not sure I can compare his GCL at 21 to Hernandez NYP at 20 but they were somewhat similar. Two year swing is probably invalid).
Aumont is the most surprising. I still really like his arm and figure him to be a possible elite closer. But he obviously has a long way to go.
Matching PP’s top ten is quite interesting. Top 6 are pretty obvious plus Biddle but not the rest.
On Rodriguez, even if he didn’t have the velocity as of 2010, is it possible that he could still develop it? I was just looking at his B-R page, and I don’t think I had fully appreciated just how young he is (19 last year).
Extremely possible
a 6’4" frame, suggests he could still have room to top off the tank and gain velocity. He probably doesn’t get the love he should from the prospect community.

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