Your 2011 Phillies Opening Day Roster: Orr, Martinez, Herndon In; Stutes, Young Out

by WholeCamels on Mar 30, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

The Phillies made their final 25 man roster decisions after this afternoon's exhibition game against the Pirates. After the dismissal of Luis Castillo earlier this afternoon, Michael Martinez became a shoo-in. In somewhat of a surprise, Pete Orr -- who managed a triple this afternoon, one of the Phillies two hits -- was selected. Apparently, Orr's ability to play third base persuaded Charlie Manuel, in light of Placido Polanco's wonky elbow.

As expected, Chase Utley, Domonic Brown, and Brad Lidge will all open the year on the Disabled List.

Despite an impressive spring, the Phillies (did the right thing and) sent reliever Michael Stutes to Triple-A Lehigh Valley, along with utility man Delwyn Young.

Without further ado, your Opening Day 2011 Philadelphia Phillies:

C - Carlos Ruiz

C - Brian Schneider

1B - Ryan Howard

IF - Wilson Valdez

IF - Pete Orr

IF - Michael Martinez

SS - Jimmy Rollins

3B - Placido Polanco

LF - Raul Ibanez

CF - Shane Victorino

RF - Ben Francisco

OF - John Mayberry, Jr.

IF/OF - Ross Gload

SP - Roy Halladay

SP - Cliff Lee

SP - Roy Oswalt

SP - Cole Hamels

SP - Joe Blanton

RP - Kyle Kendrick

RP - David Herndon

RP - Danys Baez

RP - J.C. Romero

RP - Ryan Madson

RP - Antonio Bastardo

RP - Jose Contreras

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so Utley has to be feeling better.
/Logicdome’d

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions

I like the way you think, WL.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 30, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

OT:

SF has Brandon Belt make their roster.
In other words, huge win for Team PhilsandThrills

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Glad they went with Herndon over Stutes though.

I didn’t pay much attention to Orr, so what exact;y does he bring to the table?

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions

Fulfills their Canadian quota

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Who did that last year?

by dannijd on Mar 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Mathieson is sad.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions

“The rule is No Canadians, Scott. We’re allowed to have one.”

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs

awesome

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought two Hawaiians would count toward their foreign-born player quota.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Two? Vic and who else?

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Sardinha. (albeit briefly.)

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Cerberus.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, last year. I thought you meant this year’s roster.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Putting the "eh" in Double Play since 2005.

by Cormican on Mar 30, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Seriously though, what in the world puts Orr over Castillo?

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

He hits triples.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Apparently Charlie is concerned about Polanco, needs Orr and his ability to play 3rd base.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Career OBP: .287.
No thank you.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

His unbounded tripletude, silly.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Ensures high quality maple syrup in Phillies clubhouse

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

RIP Joe

by phatj on Mar 30, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I laffed.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

“Just hook it to my veins!”

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions

And beer too, hopefully.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman

#phillies apparently noticed that castillos range is approx 2 foot, resulting in release. Valdez a better stopgap option.
Honestly, I’d like Castillo to met him and just clock in the face a few times.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions

I think if I met Heyman I’d be tempted to smack him around myself.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Mar 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Even if Castillo’s a jerk, Heyman’s got to be a bigger one.

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve met Heyman, he used to not be a jerk. Getting the SI job got to his head.

by youaretheman26 on Mar 31, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions

I’d like to run over his car with Oswalt’s dozer.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

He had a positive UZR last year. I’m a little surprised myself.

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Seems like all the defensive metrics thought he was slightly positive as well.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions

That bullpen looks air tight.

by philiafan14364 on Mar 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

Excluding Kendrick, though he could certainly prove himself in a relief role.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

and there’s minor league depth too.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Orr will accept a minor league assignment in a month or two when Utley returns, Castillo wouldn’t?

by pretzalz on Mar 30, 2011 8:42 PM EDT reply actions

How does cutting Castillo now put us in any better of a position then?

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Orr probably would accept one now, I imagine.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions

And Valdez wouldn’t? Was Valdez’s spot guaranteed before Castillo arrived? Castillo certainly has the leverage skill wise, the only difference being Castillo wasn’t called the informal MVP of the team last year.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Does Exxon have options?

by Cormican on Mar 30, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think so but then again it depends on what is defined as “5 years of professional service”.

If a player is on the 40-man roster and not the active 25 man roster for any part of more than three seasons (in which he spent 20 or more total days of service in the minors), he is out of options and may not be assigned to the minors without first clearing waivers. However, if a player has less than 5 years of professional experience, he may be optioned to the minors in a fourth season without being subject to waivers.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

No. J remember when J-Roll got hurt last year that one of the problems with bringing Valdez up was that he was out of options and would have to be DFA’ed if sent back down.

by dannijd on Mar 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Bah, my Phield ticket missed on both counts.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions

How do you know?

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Mar 30, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Twitter. Read the capital letters.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe it’s to build a false sense of optimism before cruelly dashing their hopes?

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry, but nope.
Totals: TGP 753, Nation 1,095.
ZWR: 879, PhuturePhils 401.

All on the ZWR train.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions

They have a real shot. I’m guessing they’re going to get more votes from PhuturePhils voters than PhilliesNation will be getting from us.

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions

It doesn’t work that way.
People vote for every matchup if they want, so most votes are probably not unique to one blog.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t understand.

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh wait.
Never mind.
I think I misread your post.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought you were saying ZWR would get votes from TGP voters, which are mostly the same voters, as opposed to saying ZWR would get votes from PP.

by philsandthrills on Mar 30, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Tanner Boyle says

All on the ZWR train

Fuck that bullshit. I’m not voting for either one of those fuckers.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions

ZWR is a friend, so I have no qualms supporting them.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Mar 30, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s different, he’s not my friend. If he was, I would prolly do it.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Also if I really thought ZWR or Philles Nation were better, I would, but I don’t. This blog is great. From Trev 223’s dialetics (I read that piece and found myself an hour later reading about Hegel; I’ve never read anything about Hegel in my life until then), to our doggerel, to our game day blogs, to Taco Pal’s Logic Thunderdome, to baseball history, to our unrepentant support of advanced metrics, to the nod from Neyer, to our art, to our snausages – we are just fucking better. For me to vote for either one is conceding that we’re not and I can’t do that.

by j reed on Mar 31, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

Your fervent support does not go unnoticed or unappreciated by the boss.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Mar 31, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions

You got skulls that need bustin’,and arms that need some twistin’ just let me know. I’ll put in a call in to my Uncle Xxxxx. He used to ride with the Pagans.

by j reed on Mar 31, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions

I love ZWR and check it frequently. The problem is, I consider it an entertainment blog more than a Sports blog. If James had won, I would have gladly voted Phuture Phillies over anyone except TGP (though, I’ll admit, it would be a tough decision, as I really think both blogs are top shelf and info packed).

Like J, I will likely sit out voting the final round. Still, good luck to ZWR, it’s nice to see that site getting love.

by Cormican on Mar 31, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, no offense to ZWR which is tremendously creative and entertaining, but I was voting for Phuture Phillies.

by phatj on Mar 31, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions

well, it’s official now. We lost by 300 votes.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Mar 30, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Well shitburgers. Oh well.

Clearly we didn’t have enough grit and hustle, and we obviously didn’t want it nearly enough.

Plus, we didn’t know how to win, or have enough veteran-ness.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Where is Aaron Rowand when we need him?

Someone needs to “teach us how to win”.
(;^))

by woodyj on Mar 30, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

We got our ass kicked.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Honestly, I had no idea Phillies Nation was such a big deal. Before coming here, I had heard of Crashburn Alley and Phuture Phillies, and I’ve heard of Zoo With Roy more recently. Phillies Nation? I’m sure I heard of it once or twice, but had no idea until now that it was so popular.

by Rujasu on Mar 30, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I had no idea either until they got a #1 seed in last year’s Phield. Up until then, I had always assumed that Beerleaguer was the most popular Phillies blog.

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Phillies Nation is a slow loading blog and is wonky. The commenters there leave something to be desired at times. I used to post at Beerleaguer, but I actually started at ESPN. Good Lord. Talk about mouthbreathers.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 30, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions

their lead writer Pat Gallen produces for 97.3 south jersey

i think they where promoting a little. Hes a pretty good writer, but the commentators on that blog are nuts sometimes. Honestly TGP is so much better

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Mar 30, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

There’s a little more interaction here than on either Phillies Nation or Beerleaguer. I think it’s due to the SBN site commenting setup and the fact that posters here are held a little more accountable, at least IMO.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

The smaller community plays a role as well, I imagine.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep. But when I was at BL, the posting community wasn’t really that large. That was 2008, though. That was a fun year regardless.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 30, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

BL has gone down hill a little lately

some very negative stuff there.

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Mar 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

The posters are irrationally negative which is just as bothersome as when people are needlessly polyanna.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 31, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree. Especially with the new format. I lurked for a long while before selecting a place I felt comfortable talking. TGP for better or worse was the place I thought I (and the Collective) would be most comfortable.

"We are the Borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Mar 30, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Before I found TGP I used to go to on Phillies Nation. It’s a mix of of traditionalists and some sabr minded people with the emphasis leaning more toward the traditionalists but that applies more to the commentariat than the writers (at least when I was there). The site writers often used advanced metrics in write-iups and articles. There was a decent number of traditionalists with good baseball sense i.e. refused to endorse the notion that Cole Hamels lacked mental toughness and that Pedro Feliz had to go but there was also your fair share of philly.comers who wanted to trade Hamels for Bobby Jenks and a some magic beans. Overall the commentators were supportive of the team and not outright Negadelphians. But the blog format is much like Crashburn Alley’s – nowhere near as dynamic as SB Nation’s blogs and as doubleh noted slow loading and wonky (lots of strange puter behavior after you left that site.)

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Let's just say

Thanks for your support, and playoffs are a crapshoot. Measurable progress from last year! Kind of heady stuff to be part of a TOP BLOG.

But alas, the vox clickuli have spoken. And rest assured that none of those scabs who voted PN are getting their potholes filled anytime soon. And honestly, perhaps flying just under the radar when it comes to such contests is the best place to be to sustain our nerdy funhouse culture. Imagine what winning the thing would have been like if, in turn, the mainstream media picked up the story and started clicking around to find either Trev223’s epic dialectic post or, on the other hand, Veteran Clubhouse Presence.

As for me, me and my unbalanced brain will go out voting ZWR.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions

GO SIXERS!

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions

That was a good game. The Houston Rockets logo looks like something out of an Anne Rice novel.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 30, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

How about Holiday.

by j reed on Mar 30, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s the future. Thought he was going to give Dougie an aneurysm with the 5 turnovers tonight, though.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Mar 31, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Orr has the look

Of Robert Englund about him.

Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."

by RememberthePhitans on Mar 30, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

So seeing as Opening Day is Friday

When are we gonna have our Over/Under/Never thing? I haven’t missed it somehow, have I?

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions

top men

by taco pal on Mar 30, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Not sure which of the ~~blog lords~~ top men is responsible for that (WL?) but I’ll happily help if desired.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Post is coming. Phrozen, I could use some help in crunching the numbers to award last year’s winner.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions

You’ve got my email. Send me whatever you need done.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll email separately. Hey everyone! The post is up. Still some room for entries -- get your right brain revvin'

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I finished dead (really dead) last in NCAA brackets. Not getting involved anywhere else

"We are the Borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Mar 30, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Okay, but there’s no entry fee and no disincentive, but YMMV.

by Wet Luzinski on Mar 30, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Not that I know of- I asked WL if we were going to have one in another post, and he said that we would, but I have not heard anything yet.

by dannijd on Mar 30, 2011 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

not that I'm a huge Castillo fan

but man, I would rather have him than Orr. am I missing something, or are Orr and Martinez basically the same player? how many free-swinging, light-hitting, defense-first infielders does one team need?

by perfectdepth on Mar 30, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions

or D. Young for that matter if not Castillo.

by perfectdepth on Mar 30, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Three.

by Phrozen on Mar 30, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions

we better see a lot of double switches is all I’m saying. gotta keep those guys busy.

by perfectdepth on Mar 30, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions

The issue might be that there’s no obvious Pat Burrell type player in the infield to make a defensive substitution for in the 8th inning of every game like we saw in ’08 with the Beard.

Well, aside from Ryan Howard, but I don’t see him getting pulled unless the game’s not even close, and if I’m reading things right, most of the glut of utility infielders are middle infielders, which means Gross Load.

by RaptorLC on Mar 31, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions

i like the bench

defense and speed count quite a bit for ss/2b/3b/cf backups. plus martinez and mayberry (and francisco are at the right age to have career years. plus ibanez/mayberry and francisco/gload have the potential to be excellent platoons.

by phorever on Mar 31, 2011 5:39 AM EDT reply actions