The case for John Lannan's immediate incarceration
by FuquaManuel on Apr 14, 2011 12:52 AM EDT
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PrintJohn Lannan hit Ryan Howard on the hand with a pitch tonight. Thankfully for our hottest hitter at the moment, post-game x-rays came back negative. But let's talk about Mr. Lannan for a moment.
John Lannan has a career 3.26 BB/9. Not good control, but not awful either.
He has faced 2523 batters in his career and hit 21 of them. That is .83 percent of batters he has faced. For comparison's sake, Roy Halladay has hit .66 percent of the batters he has faced.
Of the 2523 batters John Lannan has faced, 295 of them have been Phillies (11.6%).
Of the 21 batters John Lannan has hit, 8 of them have been Phillies (38%).
Here is a list of the Phillies who John Lannan has hit:
Chase Utley, three times (one broken hand, one strong MVP candidacy derailed)
Ryan Howard, three times
Shane Victorino, once
Raul Ibanez, once
I'm not saying John Lannan is intentionally throwing at Phillies, but it certainly looks like John Lannan might be intentionally throwing at Phillies.
As our own Blog Overlord Whole Camels has said, John Lannan must be incarcerated before he kills again.
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SHOW TRIAL! SHOW TRIAL! SHOW TRIAL!
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Apr 14, 2011 1:02 AM EDT reply actions
He has no neck. It’s just a face and then…shoulders.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
absolute ringer
eyebrows, neck and all
I was looking at Igor from Young Frankenstein, but settled on this
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Yep.
So like I’m a major league pitcher – weird . AmIrite?
Yeah I agree, Marty F. had it rough enough.
If I find a workable photo, I will put Quasi Lannan in full cartoon Nats attire and unveil him the next time he pitches against the Phils
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
The creepiest thing about this picture? Someone is actually asking for John Lannan’s autograph.
I came, I saw, I conquered
by Veni Vidi Vici on Apr 14, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
They are already resorting to scantily clad women in the post game thread at TC to cheer themselves up…I will not be shedding one tear knowing that the Phils will be missing Josh Johnson’s turn in the rotation this weekend
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
What's up
With new slogan/byline? Is this a quote from an opponent’s blog, per chance?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Also, who gives a shit about Twitter followers? This is something I don’t understand—people using it to measure their dick size, I guess.
This blog gets way more than 1500 unique viewers I would guess. Also, does he not understand the sheer number of Phillies blogs out there, hence the Phield tourney? Douche.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
There’s so many people out there that just spout off about things to try to start shit, I guess I just assume the worst. My bad if it was a joke. /too much WIP
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I do not think this guy was joking. At least I did not read it like that. Regardless, it is funny to put on top of the blog.
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I write for The Brotherly Game. I only have 306 Twitter followers. I must be some sort of evil villain, or something.
Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.
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No, it just means Brotherly Game sucks.
/cammarota’d
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by alcatraz0109 on Apr 14, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Utley
Thanks for bringing that season back into my mind shudders
But still, awesome post. I love posts.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
You've endangered the wrists & hands of once-&-future World Phuckin' Champions for long enough, Lannan... Your reign of shitty pitching ends NOW.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Apr 14, 2011 5:51 AM EDT reply actions
No sir, John Lannan is like a cockroach. His shitty pitching will survive even the worst of nuclear fallout, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, the arrival of the Four Horsemen, and the Parousia itself.
He will be around to torment Phillie hitters only until he is thrown into the Lake of Fire™ along with his false prophet, whose identity is unknown, but I would venture the MASN broadcasting crew is among the candidates.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Where do Lannans go when they die?
The don’t go to heaven where the home runs fly
Go to a Lake of Fire™ and fry
And pitch to the Phillies once again in July
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 14, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Very droll. I like it.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Bastardized from this.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I had thought so, remembering Cobain and his unplugged stuff. I mentioned the lake of fire (and the other cataclysms) originally because I am teaching my students the Book of Revelation right now, but I like the Nirvana reference better.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Or it could be John Lannan has no stuff; Ryan Howard is a left handed hitter who owns him and his sole recourse to try to throw curves on the inside corner. For a guy who has no stuff and had no defense last night, he’s got little alternative than to pitch inside and up out of left handers happy zone and hope for the best.
Utley and Howard crowd the plate.
/Nats fan’d
/cool thread gentlemen, many chuckles from the esteemed opposition.
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For something to be Nats fan’d, the Nats would need fans.
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Apr 14, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s a bit unfair. They do have 27 fans. I seem to know about half of them.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
There are a fair number of Nats fans, actually
And when the Nationals start to win regularly the team will probably attract the same high quality bandwagon fans that have jumped onto the Yankee, Red Sox and Phillie parades.
Perhaps. But unlike with many other teams, the entirety of the crowd will be bandwagon fans, not just the new people.
I don’t know too many bandwagon Phillies fans, actually. Our beloved baseball team just doesn’t strike me as the bandwagon inducing type.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno how you define “bandwagon” but I can state unequivocally that there are a lot more Phillies “fans” around my workplace and elsewhere I frequent than there were five years ago, based on the numbers of jerseys, hats, t-shirts, etc. that I see. (Meanwhile I think I own one Phillies-branded item of clothing, a fitted cap that I only wear to games.)
I guess those co-workers are bandwagon fans. I don’t like to equate ‘frontrunner’ with ‘bandwagon’, necessarily, although many do. I guess part of me not seeing what you see is the fact that I don’t live around Philly.
I suppose the way to define ‘bandwagon’ is actually to gauge how many people from out of town all of a sudden become fans. But I will admit that isn’t perfect. ‘Frontrunner’ is more for the hometown fans, I would propose.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant that the co-workers are ‘frontrunners’, rather than ‘bandwagoners’
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve always thought frontrunners were those who rooted for whichever team was winning, like when all the Cowboy fans come crawling out of the woodwork around these parts when they are winning (which, thankfully, isn’t often lately).
Bandwagoners tend to hop on/hop off the local teams’ coats depending on how it’s playing and (mostly) have a football mentality whilst doing it. Bandwagoners can become fans for life, though. I tend to give bandwagoners more slack because they help fill the park and buy us shiny new multi-million dollar pitchers.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I guess we just have reversed terms and definitions – but in substance agree with each other.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
There are definitely a lot of bandwagon fans about town. I think what really separates the Phillies from the Red Sox is that the bandwagon effect is purely local. The recent success has inspired a lot of Philadelphians who had lost hope in the baseball team to pay attention again. But you don’t see your Jennifer Garner-style celebrities and Fever Pitch-watching non-baseball fans from random places in America jumping on the bandwagon. That just isn’t going to happen.
(I define “local” and “Philadelphians” loosely to include expats who had to move away for their jobs and what not.)
Philly isn’t sexy enough, or thought of as a real sports town (so sayeth Alec Baldwin).
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
It’s true! I’m sure it will surprise no one to learn that we have a very bad image around the rest of America. Some cities’ fans are seen as lovable losers. Some are seen as arrogant but still attract those who like to feel transgressive. Some are seen as tragically heroic. All of those fans’ teams will attract their fair share of notoriety in other cities, with people on both sides of those controversies. But we don’t fall into any of those categories. People tend to just see us as villains and criminals. I think the only person I have ever met in my whole life who became a fan of a Philadelphia sports team without having any sort of personal or family connection to the area was Doug Glanville.
Barkley seems to be a fan of the teams here, even if he is overly critical from time to time.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
How so? Playing here? Glanville did, too. Barkley was from Alabama, no?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Oh wait, I see. To clarify, Barkley became a fan after he lived here. Glanville became a Phillies fan when he was just a kid. It was because he liked the powder blue uniforms.
OK, gotcha. Totally reasonable reason to like the Phillies, lol. I’d have lied and said Schmidt or Carlton or Maddox.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Also, the villains/criminal part is true. If you tell someone that you are a Philadelphia fan, their eyes get all wide and they back away like you might be packing heat. I mean, even as a relatively unassuming average female people tend to be cautious around me, even before they know that I’m a violent yet stats-loving sports geek!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
What’s funny about this, is that if I tell folks around here I’m from Philly, they assume I’m a liberal gun-hating Commiecrat, or words to that effect.
Villians and criminals, though, they see that. After the vomiting incident from last year, one of my coworkers told me to warn him before I barfed on him.
I get that too just for being a fan of Philly sports, and I have never lived a day within 75 miles of the city. So it is the city, or the fans of the teams, or both?
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I have never lived around the area, but am the son of a Philly area ex-pat and have about 10,000 relatives who still in the area.
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by WanderingMoses on Apr 14, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Utley crowding the plate I’ll give, but Howard? If he is crowding the plate, why is he hit so much less frequently?
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, dannijd, but I've been waiting to flash this one...
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 14, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good one… Please note, I am only guilty of negligent manslaughter, not first degree joke homicide.
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not about to argue intent on a blog full of lawyers.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I am one, and I can assure you I lacked the requisite intent!
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Given that the bases were loaded and Lannan had two strikes on Howard
I guar-an-tee that Lannan wasn’t gunning for him. That run, you may recall, turned out to be pretty important.
Yeah, the post was supposed to be mostly tongue-in-cheek. But even still, it’s food for thought. It seems odd that, relative to the number of times he’s faced them, such a disproportionate number of the batters he’s ht are Phillies. It’s not even like his other non-phillies HBPs are predominantly lefties.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
Couldn't we just plunk HIM the next time he comes to the plate?
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Last night, after he hit Ryan, I almost wanted Halladay to plunk him. On one hand, I am sure that he did not intend to hit Ryan that time, it is just too many Phillies hit- him and Tim Hudson are my exceptions to my general rule against plunking.
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 2:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m pretty opposed to plunkings except in retaliation for a REALLY OBVIOUS plunking. It’s not worth it.
Someone drills Howard in the head with a fastball (a real fastballk, not a Lannanball), and it seems remotely intentional, then yeah, hit the bastard. Otherwise, chalk it up as an inside pitch or whatever, take the base and move on, preferably by scoring one or more runs.
I try to be, and generally am, but every once in a while there is an exception. That being said, I totally agree with you- particularly since the last thing I would want is to get a beanball war started with them and have one of ours heading to the morgue.
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, he belongs in jail with Barry Bonds.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Apr 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe put him in jail WITH Barry Bonds? It would probably be the ost time that Bonds would ever spend with another Major League ballplayer. Save for his dad.
I came, I saw, I conquered
by Veni Vidi Vici on Apr 14, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So apparently Aroldis Chapman is topping out at 93-94 on his fastball. The Reds are planning to shut him down for a couple days.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
10 MPH down is pretty significant. If he loses that velocity, he’ll be in trouble, because his secondary stuff isn’t really up to par yet.
Might be too soon to say this is Dusty’s fault but it wouldn’t surprise me, How many arms does he have to burn out before he learns? Him and Riggleman are brutal to young pitchers, and they both managed the Cubs in the late 90’s/early 00’s. Prior and Wood didn’t stand a chance.
I came, I saw, I conquered
by Veni Vidi Vici on Apr 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not trying to defend Dusty, but I don’t know that overuse is the problem here- they picked their points using him last year, and he’s only pitched 5 1/3 this year- there are Phillies relievers with more innings than that under their belt this year.
by dannijd on Apr 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In case anyone cares.
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"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
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