Cliffdiving: Braves 6, Phillies 3
by WholeCamels on Apr 8, 2011 10:59 PM EDT
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Despite jumping out to a quick 3-0 lead after their first two times at-bats, the Phillies couldn't score again, and starter Cliff Lee got shellacked by the Braves lineup en route to a 6-3 defeat tonight in Atlanta.
The trouble started early, with Lee issuing a rare walk to Brian McCann in the first, and showing poor command. Unlike Cole Hamels in his first start, the Braves truly hit Lee hard throughout his 3 1/3 inning outing, punctuated by a bases loaded, bases-clearing double in the fourth inning from Chipper Jones off the glove of center fielder Shane Victorino that made the score 6-3, where it would stay.
Early on, Braves starter Tim Hudson fell victim to a lot of the BABIP magic that the Phillies hitters have worked throughout most of the young season. The Phillies missed a chance to climb back into the game in the fifth inning, loading the bases with one out for red-hot Ryan Howard. It was not to be, however, as Hudson induced a check-swing grounder for the dreaded 1-2-3 double play to end the threat. It was smooth sailing for Hudson from there out, with the right hander eventually finishing 7 2/3 innings with eight hits and two strikeouts. Jonny Venters and Craig Kimbrel closed it out for Atlanta.
If there's one good takeaway from tonight's game, it was the performance of the Phillies bullpen -- Kyle Kendrick, Antonio Bastardo, and J.C. Romero combined for 4 2/3 innings of two hit, two walk relief, with Bastardo looking especially impressive, striking out the side in both of his innings of work, and allowing a single hit -- which just happened to be the 2,500th base hit of Chipper Jones' career.
Daaaaangg.
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Is it my eyes or is this recap posted twice?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
If we can accept an off night from Lee, I’ll let this slide from you too I guess. Just have a better performance as blog lord tomorrow.
Samesis
Lee just couldn’t locate tonight. When he hit Freeman with that 0-2 pitch, you knew it wasn’t happening for him.
Hudson wasn’t especially crisp either. Three runs should have been good enough for a Lee outing, so the offense – although not brilliant – did their part.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamels would have won 20 games last year had the Phillies scored 3 runs in each of his outings…ashame we are trading him
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Wonder what we could get for that ... Better do it before their value drops further
by dannijd on Apr 8, 2011 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Trade 'em both!!!
Let Kendrick and Worley pitch!
by dannijd on Apr 8, 2011 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HitFX would have shown Hudson crisp. He induced plenty of slow dribblers today.
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
braves vs. oswalt lifetime
McCann: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 BB, 1 K
Uggla: 3 for 20, 1 2B, 4 BB, 7 K
Jones: 4 for 15, 1 2B, 2 BB, 4 K
Gonzalez: 10 for 25, 2 HR, 1 BB, 4 K
Prado: 1 for 3, 1 2B, 0 BB, 0 K
McLouth: 10 for 30, 2 2B, 2 HR, 1 BB, 8 K
Heyward: 1 for 4, 1 3B, 0 BB, 1 K
Thanks for these previews, TP. Now that the Texas taint has faded from him, I expect to see improvement.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a DVD called “Texas Taint.”
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Apr 8, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Too early to worry...
That starts tomorrow
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
1-2-3 DP
There are baseball gods and when you somehow avoid a would be double play and routine 1-3 put out….chances are, your luck is about to run out. Baseball gods can’t help when fastballs are left up over the plate…that is out of their jurisdiction. However, there is an early season trend developing with games that have a MyPHL17 post game show. There could be a general annoyance factoring into the gods that stems from the analysis of Mikey Mush and the overly giddy school boy. Stay tuned for Sunday…
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Last Sunday went ok! And why can’t the baseball gods help with keeping the darn pitches down in the zone?
by dannijd on Apr 8, 2011 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Those Braves fans look ridiculous. Do any of you see lots of Phils fans with NFL-style face paint at the ballpark? /totally biased against ATL
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
It was half empty in the 9th when they were up by 3. I just don’t get it.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
College & HS football, right? They don’t deserve good teams.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
I guess. Doesn’t even really seem to me like the Bulldogs stand out all that much considering the population of the state. I’m sure they sell out and all, but many other schools from smaller states have more fervent fans.
It has an almost universal reputation as a bad sports town, and for good reason, yet they got to host the olympics. I’ll never understand that.
Phive for Phive and kickin' it live
by Veni Vidi Vici on Apr 8, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
the fear of explosion prevents them from staying away from their trailers long enough to go to a game…haven’t you seen Winter’s Bone
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Birthday, Crystal Meth, Dubya, Incest, International Harvester, Jitney and Whitney
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 9, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Not true. They love college football (well, they don’t love Georgia Tech per se, but Georgia in general loves football… well, college football at least, since the Falcons have very up-and-down attendance).
and their illegitimate children can recognize them through the haze of booze and drugs
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But the Phils fans didn’t do it when Myers was here. /too soon?
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Good, was worried it was just me. I never really liked him and it pained me to cheer for the guy.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
NFL Style? Looked like Klan paint from here.
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys are just priceless. Looking forward to tomorrow and Sunday!
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on, you guys bad things about us, too. Besides, are you allowed over here? I thought you guys were under Taliban rule over there.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Wasn’t aware. Is a gag order in effect?
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Grand High Wizard mvhsball posted this particular piece which you may find interesting.
It says, in a nutshell, that you are to leave us be. Or, failing that, at least be nice while here, and refrain from trolling under pain of a good ol’ downhome redneck whippin’!
Incidentally, will we be seeing you here, acting all humble and shit. after a Braves’ loss?
I would say that I’m fairly nice. I’m never afraid to show up after a loss either.
You would probably sound a bit more mature “and shit” if you cooled it with the KKK and redneck jokes. I could stereotype the hell out of Phillies fans, but I’d prefer intelligent discussion to prevail.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dunno. You should know that I can’t count past 6.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fortunately, I can typically count the number of fans at a mid-week game in July with ease.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
seriously though, it is a shame…that team deserves better. I know Atlanta is a transplant city, but it isn’t like it is Tampa
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Atlanta weather doesn’t help matters.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I sincerely apologize.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don’t be sorry…I had a blast. I was there in my early 20’s. If your implying that Memphis isn’t the ideal spot to raise a family…no argument here. However, every city should have a Hollywood Raifords and a Purple Church…words don’t do justice to their awesomeness
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
We hate because we love. You know how it is.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
By not having any.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
friend of mine is nicknamed Mike-Bob…his name is actually Mike. Went to school together in NC and he was the stereotypical Long Islander. It started as a joke, but 10 years later it’s still going strong
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
True. But the question is, why are you here? Why come here after a loss, especially after one such as this?
There are really only two good reasons. One, you are a fan of both teams, in which case, you’re welcome, but remember which team’s site you’re on. Two, you’re trolling.
I find the second much more likely and shit.
And on the subject of stereotyping the hell out of Phillies fans, take a look at today’s game threads on TC. You’ll find at least a dozen references to battery throwing, CLASSINESS, and Santa Claus, among others. That’s how it works. We’re all fans—fanatics. We make fun of you, and you make fun of us, and it all works best when we keep ourselves segregated from each other.
So stay and hang out and such if you like, but don’t say things like:
Omg y’all suck it wuz just the ’Stros. We r goin 2 dominate y’all at the Ted! Get ready looserz
whether it’s a joke or not, and expect a good reaction. Leave that out and we’ll get along fine.
That was me making fun of the, shall we say, lesser members of TC.
I don’t like the Phillies. I hate the Phillies, as a matter of fact. However, I have faith this can be a place where I can come to have rational, intelligent, and non-hostile discussions about our respective clubs. I won’t be a dick.
Sound good?
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 9, 2011 12:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The shit of it is that we have probably just as many Klan factions here in central PA as they do down there in Georgia.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
They're passionate.
Also, the girl on the left is hot.
"Sports is human life in microcosm."
Howard Cosell
Bastardo looked disgusting. Made a complete joke out of Freeman. It would be nice if he became our go-to lefty in the pen.
Zagurski and Bastardo by July
Combined called “Fat Bastardo”
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a wine called Fat Bastard. It’s not terrible.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
By the third glass, is there such a thing as “terrible”?
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You want to look thinner? Hang out with fatter people!
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
They are going to WRECK those buffets. DIfferent kind of Redneck Wrecking Crew.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Joe needs to take him under his wing like a veteran should. Teach him how to have a good approach, map out which dishes to hit first.
“You need to know what you’re going to do before you get in line…”
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Since its worth repeating
The Braves Broadcasting crew makes me want to shoot myself.
Better or worse than the Marlins/Nats broadcasting teams? They are all wretched.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
My wife always asks me why I hate Wheels. She’d never understand.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, she does.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Apr 8, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets are pretty good. And what TP says—those other guys make me long for T-Mac, which should just illuminate how bad those guys are.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Chip Caray is really the worst play-by-play announcer of ALL TIME. He’s Brick Tamland, except also creepy and not likeable.
I think T-Mac has actually improved to the point where he’s now mediocre. I still don’t like him, but I can tolerate him.
I know I’m in the minority when I say this, but in my opinion Jim Jackson is the best of our three PBP men.
Waiting to hear Jackson call a bench clearing brawl
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I love JJ. He’s learned to tone it down some from the hockey excitement, but certainly if they guy can call the frenetic pace of a hockey game PBP he can handle the (sometime) snail crawl of baseball (especially during IL, amirite?).
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Yeah, sometimes he practically gives me heart attacks with the suddenness of his changes of inflection. But I find it more funny than annoying.
What I really like about him is that I think he’s the most descriptive of the play-by-play guys. Franzke may have the best voice and he’s really good at certain things, like capturing the most memorable plays. But for example, there were a couple of Bastardo and Romero strikeouts I was listening to on the radio today, where all he would say was “swing and a miss, struck him out.” But on what kind of pitch? Where was it located? Jackson is better at remembering to mention all of that info.
Absolutely nothing is worse than the Marlins’ and Nats’ broadcasting teams. They’re what single-handedly convinced me to get MLB.tv instead of MLB Extra Innings.
Speaking of the Marlins’ and Nats’ broadcasting teams… this is why I don’t think Wheels is absolutely terrible. He has his issues, but he’s not as blatantly idiotic and biased as many of the other color guys in baseball. It’s not a major compliment by any stretch, but i think it’s a pretty valid assessment.
Yes. I remember catching a Marlins broadcast years ago when I was down visiting family in FLA and the Fish were playing the Phils. That was the series in (07 I wanna say?) where the brawl broke out b/c Lieber threw at someone and Myers got hurt in the same series, remember that? Any-who, Fish announcers were just unbearable about all the games and were even factually incorrect on just about everything to do with the Phillies. They said, “And now we get to the Phillies bullpen, which has been one of their strengths this season.” I just about choked. The BP was terrible that season.
BTW, on drive back we caught the last game in the Phils-Braves series which completed a Turner Field sweep. Fat Mike pitched in that game. It was hotter than the surface of the sun in that ballpark. Fans gave me and the fam a lot of passive-aggressive shit as we left the park in all of our Phils’ gear, although probably not as much as we’d get now considering the last few years.
Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.
Huh.
Speaking of passive-aggressive shit, my wife and I went to a series at Shea in 2008, and we had the good fortune to sit in a large group of fellow Phils’ fans, but the heckling from our “neighbors” was pretty intense. We won the first two, but in the third, Hamels matched up poorly against Santana. On the way to use the facilities and get a beer, I was “accosted” by a couple guys who started giving me shit. When I explained that I had flown 4,000 miles to watch the game, and didn’t really care about the outcome as long as I could see it in person, they left me be. One even wanted to shake my hand.
Played golf by chance with Joe Simpson two years ago. Nice guy, could pound the ball.
by Mace Chutney on Apr 8, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Charlie
But I never understand his bench usage…or should I say non-usage. Was he saving John Mayberry to pinch hit against Kimbrel in the 9th? Benny Fresh on 2nd, nasty lefty comes into game and yet he lets Ibanez look like a predictable fool. Mayberry may not have done any better, but Everyday Johnny doesn’t have a change-up, so I would take my chances with a RH that likes the fastball.
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
You may have a point, but I can’t say I ever expect Charlie to PH for Ibanez there. At least not with Mayberry, who he probably doesn’t fully trust yet.
That said, if for some reason he had done it, I’m fascinated to know whether Fredi Gonzalez would have stuck with Venters, or gone to Kimbrel. (I can’t remember if Kimbrel was warming up or not).
don’t you have to pitch to a batter once you come in? Charlie could just make the move once Venters comes into the game
"Francisco!...that's fun to say!" - Buddy
Yes. It killed the Phillies with Romero more than once last year
by dannijd on Apr 9, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahem.
Rule 3.05 b) If the pitcher is replaced, the substitute pitcher shall pitch to the batter then at bat, or any substitute batter, until such batter is put out or reaches first base, or until the offensive team is put out, unless the substitute pitcher sustains injury or illness which, in the umpire-in-chief’s judgment, incapacitates him for further play as a pitcher.
I think Danni’s right, except in case of injury.
OT
But I hate the fact that after watching a couple episodes of “Hey! Arnold” on Netflix, my suggested shows are all Disney and Nick Jr. shows.
Samesis
Hey, this game sucked
That Howard check-swinging bunt double-play was a dick punch
Positives?
Great infield defense today, Rollins made some great plays. Also, 6 K’s in a row from Bastardo: nice.
CAU: Pronounced 'Cow'. Cuteness Above Uggla, analytical measurement that gives a factor of a player's cuteness above Dan Uggla. For example,
Nobody has a positive CAU.
Martin Prado leads the league with a -0.0 CAU.
One big positive
We’re 5-2 and Roy Oswalt is taking the mound. And I think Hamels rebounds tomorrow.
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