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Mercy Humpday: Phillies 2, Rockies 1

Lefties Cole Hamels and Jorge de la Rosa matched each other for most of the night, but Hamels got the best of the Rockies despite another poor offensive performance by his teammates, as the Phillies topped the Rockies by a score of 2-1 tonight in Philadelphia.

As usual, the Phillies couldn't score a run without help from their opponents. In the fifth, the Phillies scored their first run thanks to a Chris Iannetta passed ball, which allowed Raul Ibanez to score on an RBI single by Wilson Valdez with two outs.  The second run, scored in the eighth, resulted from a Jorge de la Rosa wild pitch that sent Wilson Valdez to third base with one out.  Jimmy Rollins brought Valdez home on a sacrifice fly.

Hamels and de la Rosa were both terrific, but Hamels was better.  Eight innings pitched, eight strikeouts, one walk, and one run allowed on a pair of doubles by Carlos Gonzalez and Todd Helton, aka "I am become Death; Destroyer of Phillies," in the seventh inning.  Hamels only threw 107 pitches.

Ryan Madson, he of the utter lack of Steely Closer Resolve, allowed a leadoff double to pinch hitter Seth Smith, but then proceeded to strike out the side swinging.  Oh, and it was three guys named Carlos Gonzalez, Troy Tulowitzki, and Jason Giambi.  No biggie.

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Great performance by Madson. Hopefully this earns him some love from the general public. A big thanks to Iannetta for being unable to handle some pitches late in the game, giving the Phillies the lead. An ugly win, but it looks good in the standings.

by JoshuaR on May 18, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with your sentiment. To be honest, I haven’t seen any disrespect of Madson lately, although I don’t see that much of the local Philly coverage. I don’t think any reasonable observer could be unhappy with his performance all season.

by phillyinportland on May 19, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was the whole ’can’t close’ issue. I think he has silenced those doubts so far this year.

by JoshuaR on May 19, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huge win. Valdez showed off his MVP form tonight.

by Nikk.m on May 18, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Im glad we got the win because im not too confident about tomorrow

You only think were front runners because our team is winning.

by andyb on May 18, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Well aren’t you just a ray of sunshine?

by PhillyFriar on May 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s dannijd’s twin brother. Like Jan and Jaina.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on May 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he was talking about the weather forecast

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have really been enjoying the post chair kick Madson….so much so that I would like Senor Smug to put a 3 year 30 million extension on the table now so that the Phillies avoid an offseason bidding war for his services

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 18, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

THIS.

Lidge is most likely gone after this season and who knows what’s going to happen with Contreras. We’ve got some good young ones in Stutes and Bastardo, but Madson’s a proven asset. He’s the closer of the immediate future.

by Sisko on May 18, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

Scott Boras for an agent or not, this is a move that needs to be made.

by Airedale260 on May 18, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Lock him up now.

by 92-74-99-96 on May 19, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sign k-rod

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 18, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can’t be serious?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 18, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol i just try to add some spice to this page. dont take some of the stuff i say seriously.

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was unaware of your snark factor…dually noted for future use

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

How shall we know which stuff to take seriously?

by phatj on May 19, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

How would we pay for Michael Young’s salary if we did that?

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude we could afford his salary. especially if texas threw money our way. our owners are loaded from all the press this team gets.

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt want him regardless. where would we put him? not going to part ways with my man polly.

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't you hear?

WholeCamels called it long ago: Rube’s going to overpay for Papelbon this offseason. Book it.

(Ironically, Papelbon had nearly the same outing as Madson tonight: leadoff double, but got two strikeouts to end it.)

by PhillyFriar on May 18, 2011 11:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m thinking Closer Swap

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the White Sox will over pay for Papelbon…I would like Rube to keep Madson away from dueling Sox offers sure to come his way in the offseason

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i think the only way he stays is if Rube locks him up now.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

and makes sure Manuel keeps letting him close for the rest of the year.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I think a 7-8-9 bullpen lineup of Big Truck, Bastardo/Lidge (situational), and Madson could work quite well.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont want lidge as the closer this year or anywhere near this team next year

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think of Romero-Madson-Lidge in ’08. Lidge can still be a link in that chain, just not the final one.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true. who knows maybe guy will rebound.

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he could likely still have what it takes to be a relatively reliable 7th or 8th inning guy this year. It’s just a matter of which one between Lidge and Contreras should be used in conjunction with Bastardo depending on which side the upcoming lineup is batting.

I don’t want to see anyone other than Mad Dog in the 9th in a save situation though if Madson is available. As much money as Boras will be making off him in 5 months, Madson’s pitching for a contract so the Phillies might as well ride that wave as far as it’ll go.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

couldnt agree more

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or perhaps Lidge, Truck/Bastard, Mad Dog. Either way. =p

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want this to happen so badly.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on May 19, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh no. The thought of that douchebag in a White Sox uni makes me want to puke.

White Sox baseball: We're All Ineffective
Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Blanton, AND LEE!! HELL YES!
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by HappyHuman on May 19, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

could it really be worse than Bobby Jenks?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The White Sox should keep Thornton as Closer. He’s getting massacred by a sky high BABIP, but he’s pretty equivalent to Madson in my mind.

by Cormican on May 19, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

post chair kick Madson….3 year 30 million extension on the table

When I first read this, I thought you were advocating Amaro sign a table, so that Madson would have it available to kick around, just in case.

by Cormican on May 19, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

revolutionary slump buster

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on May 19, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who wears pinstripes pants and solid tops? Not to mention they’re grey pants with purple pinstripes. Gawd fucking awful.

by j reed on May 18, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 18, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

good sign to see victorino pinch hit right?

by PhilsForever on May 18, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

other than proving that he isn’t dead and can still bunt, I’m not quite sure what the good sign was?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 18, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rockies announcers were surprised at how fast he was running down the line.

It worked out well, but if this is a lingering issue that’s going to require an eventual DL stint, I don’t know that I’m all that keen on resetting his retroactive to date.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what they were watching…he was jogging

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they were half expecting him to use the bat as a cane as he hobbled down the line

It bears repeating. The Rockies announcers are seriously awful. I’m glad I only have to put up with them for what part of the game I’ll manage tomorrow and then I’m done having to watch Rockies/Phillies games on TV because they’re blacked out on MLB.TV here in Denver.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can think of something worse than their announcers

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

more like Crystal Meth Barney

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on May 19, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I’ll be dealing with the mascot for the 3 game series the Phillies will play here in August. I also won’t be hearing the god awful Rockies announce team. I consider that a good trade.

by RaptorLC on May 19, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

What would happen if Barney was crossed with Cera from Land Before Time.

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well

He would not have pinch hit if he was not getting better right? If he was worse than initially though manuel would have just let someone else bunt in that situation.

by PhilsForever on May 19, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

you do realize it was a sacrifice bunt, right?

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, i was wrong, wish I was right. Stupid Manuel. Francisco could have sacrificed.

by PhilsForever on May 20, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well the possible MRI tempers things a bit eventhough it’s standard procedure.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie mentioned in the post game interview that had Vic somehow gotten on base, he would have been pulled for a pinch runner. He only used Vic because apparently, he’s the best bunter on the team. “And Oswalt, and well Cole can bunt good too, but he has a problem seeing lefties.”

Oh, I don't know. I think the GM should sign that free agent velociraptor to fortify the bench. He's a playoff veteran who still shows a lot of hustle.

by LeepinLizardz on May 19, 2011 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was expecting them to send up one of the pitchers to bunt, namely one of the two you mentioned with Charlie’s quote. The missus went on a tirade over Vic being sent up to bat, wondering to no one in particular if Charlie should be guilty of negligent homicide if Vic were to somehow ‘die’ during that at bat and subsequent baserunning.

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

"he has a problem seeing lefties"

kid’s making $9.5M and he can’t afford glasses? tsk.

by perfectdepth on May 19, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He compensates for it by being difficult for other lefties to see!

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t know…looked to me like he was limping going back to the dugout…

by woodyj on May 19, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see a win

No more DM creating awkward silences where I feel like he’s about to shoot me in the chest, through the computer

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on May 19, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

FM, not DM

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on May 19, 2011 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

you need to make a saving throw with the 20 sided dice.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

J reed, I think if we knew each other in real life we’d be the present day Starsky and Hutch

But internet high fives will have to suffice

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on May 19, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s funny, someone is almost always notably absent from post-game threads when the Phillies win. I’ll leave it to you to figure out who it is.

by FuquaManuel on May 19, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmhmmm…Is that Sprite?

Maybe it’s like a werewolf that only comes out on a full moon

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on May 19, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

…Whoa, holy shit, you’re not kidding.

Woooooowwwwww…

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can this be verified? Because if this is the truth…I don’t even know.

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I demand a statistical analysis of this phenomenon posthaste.

"There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact it's all dark."

by alcatraz0109 on May 19, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it isn’t me.

by Phrozen on May 19, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Life interfered.

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Life must interfere disproportionately on nights when the Phillies win, huh?

by FuquaManuel on May 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last night it did- I got home to a computer that had to be fixed and dinner that had to be made at 11 pm (with the knowledge that I had to be up at 6 am to go to work this morning). Do not assume that you know what is going on in my life on any given day. You don’t.

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Here’s what I know:

You have a pattern of coming on here and saying ridiculous things after they lose.

You have a pattern of disappearing when they win.

by FuquaManuel on May 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, I was here after both wins last week.

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great, now go back and look at how many comments you make in the average “win” thread, and how many you make in the average “loss” thread. Also, be sure to see how many of the comments in the “loss” threads are made on the same night as the game and how many in the “win” threads are made the following morning.

Then go back and look at how many of the comments in the “win” threads essentially contribute nothing to the discussion, then go back and look at how many of the comments in the “loss” threads could be considered ridiculous by a rational human being. I think you will notice a pattern.

I’m not saying I don’t like this pattern. I love it actually, and I hope the Phillies win every game from here on out. And If the above comment made it seem like I cared about what was going on in your life that prevented you from commenting, I’m sorry, that was not my intention. I was just trying to point out this pattern.

by FuquaManuel on May 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i sound spoiled but im tired of this good pitching. i want to see some offense.

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, you do sound spoiled. I want to see good pitching and good offense. Is that too much to ask?

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on May 19, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

im just saying, a little offense sometimes wouldnt be too much to ask for is it?

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

but they have a little offense

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it is offensive.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on May 19, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have BAD pitching?

The kids today….

Bring Back the Expos

by Veni Vidi Vici on May 19, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

braves in extra innings

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

3-3

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is the MLB.com free TV game for those interested

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can’t get it to work

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heilman pitching for the D-Backs…Braves should take the lead soon

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

not after that shit baserunning

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

and on cue

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that was some shit luck. Basebaal is smiling on the Braves these days.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

but only for an inning.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why you…

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drew flashin’ the leather

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

2nd basemen Dan Succla

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the game. Being so close I learned how important it is to keep ahead of the batters. The run Colorado scored was because Cole fell behind on the hitters that inning.

We need to realize that half our team are marginal AAA players.

by DeanH on May 19, 2011 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

like who? the bench players? valdez, mayberry and martinez? course they are AAA players, they are bench players. we are injury ridden remember?

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by anuj on May 19, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I didn’t know better, I’d almost think you were referring to Cole as a “marginal AAA player.”

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he needs to be optioned? lol

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by phillyeaglesfan on May 19, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kimbrel blew another save.

Wheeee…

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

he deserves it for that fauxhawk

by j reed on May 19, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone that tries to look a little bit like Damn Ugly certainly deserves to have all sorts of bad things happen to him.

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sacrificed a live chicken in the middle of the 11th…BaseBa’al was appreciative

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope you saved one for tonight!

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you dont understand how happy this makes me. im blowing up so many peoples facebooks right now

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-Michael Vick #7

by anuj on May 19, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Brian Wilson with a blown save, wow.

Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose

by TheOrangeCone on May 19, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

ninjas everywhere just smiled.

by j reed on May 19, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

good vibrations

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo

by DirtyWaters on May 19, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but that let the Douchey Cody Ross be the hero….When I saw those highlights this morning as I was having my breakfast, I wanted to gag.

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Douchey Cody Ross dances with glee.

Nomadic baseball fan, with no agenda other than observation/conversation/mass confusion/mass consumption. And annoying 09.

Prosecutor: "Jesus Christ, did ANYBODY tell the truth to the grand jury?"
Barry Bonds: "I did."
Prosecutor: "GAH!"

by victor frankenstein on May 19, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

That picture is an insult to good elves everywhere.

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 10:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I must admit, though, it is an amusing shop-job. Well played!

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like Sean Avery…

Bob.

by The Dark on May 19, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“It will be a tough decision, but I think it’ll work itself out,” Manuel said. “I think when [Madson is] pitching like that, he kind of makes it tough right now to move him. What would be the point?”

Cholly said this regarding Lidge’s return. The fact that he’s not simply going to make Lidge the closer upon his return makes me think we should check the sky for the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on May 19, 2011 5:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I have this GUT feeling that our bullpen is going to be ridiculous good Down the stretch.

If liege and contreras get healthy, who cares really who pitches what inning? It’ll take that much pressure off the staff, Charlie can stop overthrowing the big boys, and we won’t have to argue over madson throwing more than an inning or bringing him in in the 7th or 8th in high leverage.

by Joecatz on May 19, 2011 7:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’s very nice…..in theory.

However, you know that Charlie has an over-reliance on The Book™. So it’s going to get interesting if Madson is having an ‘08-Lidge season by the ASB and Lidge himself returns and Charlie puts them back into their ’traditional’ roles.

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats what I expect

I fully expect that’ll happen. What I am saying above is that I’m optomistic that all three of them will be healthy and throwing so well, it won’t matter. In fact, there will likely be instances where the “right guy” (Madson} pitches the right innins, not the one he’s slotted for…

regardless of whos where, I’ll take Lidge, Contreras, Madson, Bastardo, Romero, and whichever other two arms make up the pen over Madson and the Sunshine Band.

by Joecatz on May 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, I think we are in agreement that the situation should dictate when the pitchers throw. Madson = highest leverage, and so forth.

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it is worth, I believe the Phillies record this year in games vs a left handed starter is now 10-1.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on May 19, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Boring

Having lived away from Philly for 30 years (but still a Phils fan) I will only offer the observation that the Phils are just boring to watch right now. They are actually more fun to watch when they are in the field and their pitchers are on the mound. They have very little power, and aren’t particularly good contact hitters (Polanco excepted)…bad combination.

No need to panic for sure cause we are barely through 25% of the season and the Phils are looking down, not up at the competition. But I was turrning the channel to watch the girls soccer match on ESPN2 last night cause it actually promised some action.

by BenDerDonDat on May 19, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

"boring"

I see this “boring” label a lot and I find it pretty irrelevant. Their job is to win baseball games, not to be “exciting” for viewers.

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by WholeCamels on May 19, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Besides, isn’t excellent pitching and good defense also exciting and interesting?

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Boring? No

But I would like to see the Phils put up an 8 every week or so. You know, regression to the mean.

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by boknows71 on May 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine by me… Maybe they could win that way tonight! :)

Offense, offense, where are you?

by dannijd on May 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’d like to be semi-relaxed in the 9th inning or at worst not manufacturing diamonds.

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by boknows71 on May 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

SF Giants last year...

made the playoffs with great pitching and good enough offense, went on to win the World Series…shows that it can be a winning formula.

by woodyj on May 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Police-find-Kyle-Kendrick-s-World-Series-ring-in?urn=mlb-wp6967

Now he can just relax and pitch.

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by boknows71 on May 19, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

In a freaking Mentos container too.

Just wow.

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by WanderingMoses on May 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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