Phillies Prospect Roundup (Tuesday Edition): The 2006 Draft in Review
We're less than a week away from the start of the 2011 MLB Draft, so it's time to kick it into gear around these parts. I haven't been as up-to-date on the draft coverage this year as in years past, but given where the Phillies pick (#39 overall is their first selection), I'm going to lean a little more heavily on the experts for the analysis, and do a little less amateur prognostication.
In the meantime, Phuture Phillies has a couple of pieces up on some potential targets at 39, along with some discussion on the Phillies' general draft philosophy and the unpredictable nature of the draft in general (see here and here). They're lengthy, but well worth a read if this sort of stuff interests you.
To keep with the general draft theme, let's make this a bit of a special prospect roundup -- we'll go back 5 years to take a look at the Phils' 2006 draft haul. Check below the jump to get started.
Kyle Drabek, RHP, Toronto: 1st round (18th overall). Drabek was an interesting draft prospect, as the top prep righty in the pool scared some teams off with makeup concerns. Due to Tommy John surgery, his first full season didn't come until 2009, but that breakout campaign was enough to make him the centerpiece of the Roy Halladay deal. Still, Drabek has lost some of his shine in my book, as while his raw stuff is still good, he's struggled to harness it between Double-A last year (7.3 K/9, 3.8 BB/9, 0.67 HR/9, 3.87 FIP) and the majors this year (6.0 K/9, 6.0 BB/9, 0.86 HR/9, 4.87 FIP). Still, the Phillies obviously got fantastic value from this pick.
Adrian Cardenas, OF/3B-R, Sacramento (AAA): Supplemental round (37th overall). The
Drew Carpenter, RHP, Lehigh Valley: 2nd round (65th overall). Carpenter is a classic case of a strike-throwing college starter with pedestrian stuff struggling to retire high minors and major league hitters. When a second full season as a Triple-A starter proved essentially a carbon copy of the year before (6.9 K/9, 2.4 BB/9, 1.07 HR/9, 4.08 FIP in 2009 vs. 6.9 K/9, 3.2 BB/9, 1.07 K/9, 4.43 FIP in 2010), the organization shifted Carpenter to the bullpen, and the results thus far have been somewhat promising: 8.6 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, 0.31 HR/9, 50% GB, 2.55 FIP. He's 26, but with his stuff playing up a bit out of the bullpen, maybe he's got some Chad Durbin-esque possibilities going forward.
Jason Donald, IF-R, Columbus (AAA): 3rd round (97th overall). When the first 3 rounds of a draft net you Roy Halladay, Joe Blanton, and Cliff Lee, you've had a good day at the office, right? Tongue in cheek, of course, but Donald was a key cog in "Cliff Lee trade, Version 1" as a power hitting middle infielder. He's yet to experience the same success in the majors as he did in his breakout 2008 campaign in Reading, hitting just .253/.312/.378 in 325 plate appearances across two seasons with underwhelming defensive numbers. Now sidelined for a month with a knee injury -- and overshadowed in his own infield by Top 100 prospects Lonnie Chisenhall and Jason Kipnis -- Donald still has utility man upside, but time's ticking.
D'Arby Myers, OF-R, Clearwater: 4th round (127th overall). The California prep outfielder was so young when the Phillies drafted him that he's still just 22 years old despite playing in his 6th pro season. A .313/.353/.430 debut in the GCL back in 2006 made Myers look like a steal, but he hasn't had similar success since, splitting the intervening seasons between Williamsport, Lakewood and Clearwater but managing only a career .250/.297/.342 line to this point. The athleticism is still there, but the truth of the matter is that for every toolshed that develops, there are 10 more that never make it.
Quintin Berry, OF-L, Carolina (AA): 5th round (157th overall). The speedster out of Tony Gwynn's San Diego St. program actually spent some time on the Phillies' 40 man after a steady ascent through the low minors, but a .210/.312/.294 showing in Reading as a 25-year old saw him removed from the roster and claimed by the Padres. He's bounced on to the Cincinnati organization and sports a .320/.442/.443 line with 12 stolen bases in 13 tries across 27 games, but it's tough to see much of a major league future for a guy who swings and misses so much (career 21.6% K) without any real power to speak of (career .070 ISO).
Dan Brauer, LHP: 6th round (187th overall). Brauer was a personal favorite of mine as a 6th round pick out of Northwestern who put up excellent numbers in his first exposure to pro ball (10.7 K/9, 3.3 BB/9, 0.29 HR/9, 2.60 FIP). Brauer underwent labrum surgery that wiped out his junior year of college, but the numbers above seemed to point toward a full recovery... but it was not to be. The Big 10 Pitcher of the Year for 2006 saw his control desert him, walking 121 over his next 138.1 innings before being released. He popped up with the Lancaster Barnstormers in 2010 for 2 games, but it looks like he's retired at this point, probably putting that Northwestern degree to good use.
Riley Cooper, WR, Philadelphia Eagles: 15th round (457th overall). After spending the preseason as Michael Vick's favorite target, the Florida product caught just 7 balls for 116 yards and a TD during his rookie year, but showed flashes in his limited opportunities and excelled on special teams (including recovering David Akers' onside kick in the Miracle at the New Meadowlands). Wait, crap... this is a baseball site, right? Oh, in that case, I should note that after not signing with the Phillies out of high school, Cooper played a grand total of 52 baseball games during his college career at Florida, and despite getting drafted by the Rangers in 2009 purely on the basis of his physical tools, chose to stick with football.
Michael Dubee, RHP, Altoona (AA): 18th round (547th overall). The pitching coach's son was nice enough looking relief prospect in Lakewood when the terrorist intervened, and when the dominoes fell, Tad Iguchi was on his way to Philadelphia while Dubee headed to Kannapolis, the White Sox's Low A affiliate. Four years later, Dubee has continued to put up solid numbers -- over 414.1 career innings, he's managed 8.2 K/9 while surrendering just 2.8 BB/9 and 0.69 HR/9 -- but only made one appearance above Double-A, so it looks like he's firmly in the "organizational arm" category at this point.
Kyle Gibson, RHP, Rochester (AAA): 36th round (1087th overall). An Indiana high school product, Gibson didn't sign with the Phillies and reemerged as a 1st round pick three years later after an impressive college career at Missouri. Currently laying waste to Triple-A (9.7 K/9, 1.8 BB/9, 0.98 HR/9, 53% GB, 3.18 FIP) after being named the 34th best prospect in the game by Baseball America over the offseason, Gibson is the classic example of why it can benefit an organization to pay overslot for worthy late round picks. This isn't to put any blame on the Phillies in this case, just making a general point here.
Domonic Brown, OF-L, Philadelphia: 20th round (607th overall). Just some toolsy outfielder who never really put it all together.
What jumps out most from the above list is how much value the club extracted from these picks. Drabek could still turn into a frontline starter, and Cardenas and Donald could carve out useful major league careers, but it seems to me like the Phillies really sold high on the latter two, and can have no regrets about whatever Drabek becomes given that they bartered him for the best pitcher in the game. Even Dubee... that .304/.361/.444 line that Iguchi put up in 45 games of filling in for Chase Utley was a crucial part of the 2007 pennant and is a heck of a tradeoff for an 18th round pick. Some food for thought, anyway.
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Wow- well written. I really enjoyed reading where they all wound up- wouldn’t change a thing.
Offense, offense, where are you?
by dannijd on May 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
And your last paragraph ignores what Domonic Brown will hopefully contribute in the future. That’s one hell of a draft!
by David S. Cohen on May 31, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
But you besmirched the good and honorable name of John Lannan. Do I have to remind everyone (AGAIN) that the Phillies are 12-1 against him?!
by David S. Cohen on May 31, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions
And how many wins has Lannan indirectly stole from the Phillies by sending their players to the DL unnecessarily?
Offense, offense, where are you?
by dannijd on May 31, 2011 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joke Resurrection?

http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on May 31, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a lot more favorable on the Halladay trade now than I was then, but then again the objection to the trade was never that the Phillies weren’t getting equal value per se, but that they had a stronger negotiating position vs. the Blue Jays that they failed to exploit and could have given up substantially less.
Also, without disparaging Drabek at all, could D’Arnaud end up being the biggest piece to come out of that deal? That guy’s ripping it up.
Took a look at the Baseball America Top 200 list for the draft. It looks like there’s a disappointing lack of great names this year.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2011/2611794.html
Closest thing might be #107: Senguez Golson, OF, Pascagoula (MS) HS. Or possibly #63 B.A. Vollmuth, 3B/SS, Southern Miss. Or #154 Cody Kukuk, Free State HS, Lawrence KS.
Locals:
64. Cam Gallagher, C, Manheim Township HS, Lancaster PA
66. Derek Fisher, OF, Cedar Crest HS, Lebanon PA
102. Kevin Comer, RHP, Seneca HS, Tabernacle NJ
153. Kyle McMyne, RHP, Villanova
Gallagher’s dad, Glenn, was a minor league pitcher for the Blue Jays in the early-mid 80s.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
Mike Zagurski just got called up. Perhaps this is Charlie and Dubee’s way of signaling to J.C. Romero how ANGRY they are about his failure to perform well while being misused by them.
Great- another LOOGY for the geniouses in the dugout to misuse.
Offense, offense, where are you?
by dannijd on May 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Excellent article idea, PF (though I always love me some amateur prognostication, I guess I can go 50 other places for plenty of that).
It was funny to see Berry’s name today, as I literally just met him Sunday and told my wife how I really thought he was going to be a cog for the Phillies a few years ago.
This list is a pretty good reminder that one year’s minor league darling can very quickly fall off the map. I still think Cardenas could find a valuable MLB role and Berry could find a 4th/5th OF role (though he’s striking out at quite a pace so far this season).
KLaw's latest top 25 prospect update
Cosart is #18 (was #34)
Singleton is #21 (was #27)
Wait, what? How did Singleton’s stock go up?
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, what? How did Singleton’s stock go up?
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, that was surprising. Here is the blurb:
Two things to note about Singleton. One is that the Phillies also made some tweaks with him, getting him to hit off his toes more and in the process slicing more than 150 points off his OPS, but he undid the adjustment about 10 days ago and is hitting again. The other is that his season line hides a big platoon split: he’s just 6-for-43 against lefties but hitting .313/.400/.438 against right-handers. He’s got great balance, a very good feel for the strike zone, and forces the pitcher to come to him rather than expanding the zone. He’s only 19 and didn’t play a full year last year, so we need more reps versus left-handed pitchers before the platoon split is a real concern.
Yeah, I’ve got insider as well, so I read it. Very interesting and encouraging.
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve got insider as well, so I read it. Very interesting and encouraging.
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wow, I didn’t even see the double posts. My computer must’ve bugged out there for a minute.
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh cool, the Phillies messed with his approach for some reason. That’d explain the lack of power.
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with that. It’s what the minors are for. Try something new, see if it works any better, kick the tires. I’d be pissed if they kept forcing him to do it after it didn’t work, but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing that, so good for them.
Seems like a lot to ask of him though, given that’s he’d been trying the move to LF. Try not to put too much on his plate and all.
by philsandthrills on May 31, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The other thing to remember is that there have been a number of graduations among the top prospects, so Singleton’s stock didn’t really go up so much as he slid up with everybody else.
That being said, even his stock staying the same with the rough start he’s had represents a substantial vote of confidence from KLaw.

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