Some Phillies Links for You, July 11, 2011: Gimme a Break, Trevor May Day, Contreras Update
by WholeCamels on Jul 11, 2011 6:14 PM EDT
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Well That Was Unexpected… - Brotherly Glove
Our pals over at Brotherly Glove break down yesterday's Phillies explosion.
Miller helps Victorino get All-Star slot
With friends like these...
List of All-Star replacements grows
All of them over 6'5" now! (rimshot)
Polanco to skip All-Star Game
Probably for the best.
Frank: Innings adding up for Phils' starters
I come to you only out of concern...
The Phillies won the series, but the Braves aren't going away
Overall he's right, but this sounds like "You won this time! We'll be back!"
Utility man Martinez may prove vital for Phillies
That's a harrowing thought.
Flaws and all, these are Phillies' glory days
When Bill Lyon writes, you read.
Jose Contreras' Season In Jeopardy
Yeah, this doesn't sound good. Still, it's a nice time to have a wealth of good bullpen arms in Triple-A.
Derek Jeter's 3000th Hit: What Would You Do With The Ball? - Baseball Nation
Baseball Nation's Al Yellon with a little prophecy. So what would you have done?
Phils prospects Cosart, Valle stand out in Phoenix
"Being in a big-league locker room – I want to do this every day," Cosart said.
You and me both! Wait what?
Claws fall in Duke's debut
Well, Cameron Rupp is starting to hit.
Shuffled lineup produces for R-Phils
LI'L SLUGGERS!
May throws seven-inning one-hitter
May (6-5), the Phillies' No. 6 prospect, allowed only Jaime Ortiz's second-inning single to left field and retired 13 batters in a row before issuing one of his two free passes to Jose Duarte. He set down the final five in order.
Galen Tyrol strangled his bat out of frustration.
Brad Lidge to pitch for Reading Phillies on Monday
Everyone go to FirstEnergy Stadium!
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That was my initial reaction
But I think the angle at which the picture was taken might make it look a little worse than it actually is.
by philiafan14364 on Jul 11, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve read a few articles about this study (mentioned in this article about Strasburg which says that it’s not so much the upside down W as the position the throwing arm is in when his foot hits the ground:
Here is the key to managing the torque levels in the late cocking phase: timing. The ball should be loaded in the late cocking phase precisely when the pitcher’s stride foot lands on the ground.
“If he’s too early or too late he winds up with more force on the shoulder and elbow,” said Glenn Fleisig, Ph.D., research director for the American Sports Medicine Institute in Birmingham, Ala. “The energy gets passed to the arm before it was ready, or after.”
Without the energy from the rest of the body, the shoulder and elbow must bear higher levels of torque in what in even optimum circumstances is a maneuver that taxes the physical limits of what an arm can bear.
Not sure if this is good news in relation to the photo, though…
by AshburnAllie on Jul 11, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, I think the camera angle makes it look like a worse inverted W than Cosart actually throws with. After watching a grainy video on Cosart’s delivery, I think he has a slight inverted W, but its not a very drastic one.
And from that same video, it looks like Cosart actually does have his foot hit the ground at the same time he loads. Of course, with the video quality, its pretty hard to see so take that comment with a grain of salt.
by philiafan14364 on Jul 11, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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That’s great, this is really fuckin’ great, man! Now, what the fuck are we supposed to do? We’re in some pretty shit now, man. That’s it, man! Game over, man, game over. What the fuck are we supposed to now, huh?! What are we gonna do?!
by ThinMountainAir on Jul 11, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
futures game clips
Valle taking BP: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16858597
Valle’s double: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16855757
Cosart interview: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16820559
2163 adults polled online. 307 million US citizens. Somehow I feel like this is not representative, but it’s not stopping TC from flaunting how they’re “more popular” than the Phillies.
"What's gonna happen is that you jerk off the ball. You almost want to let this guy here jam you, and if it comes, it comes." Gary 'Sarge' Matthews
Then why would something as important as WS home-field advantage be decided by a popularity contest? I have just shredded your argument, sir.
"What's gonna happen is that you jerk off the ball. You almost want to let this guy here jam you, and if it comes, it comes." Gary 'Sarge' Matthews
by Senor Octubre on Jul 11, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, fair point.
But seriously, methodological problems aside, why would we care even if other teams did poll better? The only popularity contests that impact on-field play are attendance figures and TV ratings. The Phillies do very well on those points.
I guess having just taken the first stats class in my life, it annoys me when people hold up strawman polls and act like they’re fact. As I said, the sample size is completely insignificant in relation to the population, and the fact that it’s an online poll means there was probably response bias.
But you’re right about attendance. 2163 people is the average for Turner Field. Zing.
"What's gonna happen is that you jerk off the ball. You almost want to let this guy here jam you, and if it comes, it comes." Gary 'Sarge' Matthews
by Senor Octubre on Jul 11, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that it was an online poll means that there was almost certainly response bias. Online polls are worse than useless.
by ThinMountainAir on Jul 11, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, if TC expects us to act all humble and shit, point out to them that we have a 19% chance of winning the series, and they have a 5% chance.
Because all of you care. That’s why you reference TC and the Braves often. I don’t want to start another lame online ‘battle’ with a bunch of guys (including us) hiding behind computer monitors, but the truth is that we care about what you think and you care about what we think. And there’s nothing really wrong with that — we dislike each other’s teams and fanbases as division rivals. That’s not going to change until one of us starts to suck.
Is that why you kept responding yesterday to the ‘trolls?’ If you really want to act aloof and cool, great. But it’s okay to be nice to Braves fans. Or is that just asking too much?
It’s funny, because where I live, there are a lot of people from Philly. Most of them are pretty damn nice (which doesn’t surprise me, by the way). They also love to talk baseball with me.
Responding to trolls doesn’t mean I care what they think. I respond to trolls regardless of what team they come from. That doesn’t mean I care what every fan of every team thinks.
If a person comes into your house and shits on the carpet, it’s going to provoke a response. That doesn’t mean you value that person’s opinion.
A poll not worth caring about
I also notice that the Giants dropped from 7th to 14th most popular in the last year. Winning the Series didn’t help them in this “study” – in fact this group has more people thinking the Cubs will win the World Series than the Giants. Who the hell are their respondents?
by phillyinportland on Jul 12, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So your saying the Braves are more popular around the country than they are in Atlanta?
by philiafan14364 on Jul 11, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s the general consensus. They have a larger national following from TBS, but in Atlanta, no one really cares about any sport but football.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
College football. They don’t really support the Falcons. And it isn’t even that big of a college football area compared to, say, Alabama or Florida.
Falcons vs. Eagles average attendance
2010: 67,850 vs. 69,144
2009: 68,173 vs. 69,144
2008: 64,065 vs. 69,144
2007: 68,395 vs. 68,169
2006: 70,432 vs. 69,224
I wouldn’t say Atlanta doesn’t support the Falcons. And while Alabama and Florida are huge football states, so is Georgia.
First of all, that’s paid attendance. Second, there’s a reason why the Eagles’ attendance figure was exactly the same three years in a row – because that’s the capacity of Lincoln Financial Field. I don’t know if the Falcons have ever filled the Georgia Dome to capacity. Which is a reasonable standard for support for an NFL team, considering that there are only eight home games per year and that there are blackout rules if you fail to sell out.
And UGA ranked #6 in the nation in football attendance; Penn State actually ranked #2, interestingly enough.
Doesn’t shock me. Penn State fans are pretty fanatical. Plus, nothing else to do out there in no man’s land. That’s right: I said it.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
His pitcher is not exactly hitting his spots.
by philsandthrills on Jul 11, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t see it tonight, but I remember Abreu’s HRD as being probably an unbeatable record number of pitches seen, between the number of bombs he hit and the ones he let go by.
Leave it to Bill Lyon to write about 1500 words which can be summed up as, “Phils are having a good season.”
He doesn’t offend me or anything, but I never thought there was much substance behind Lyon’s flowery prose.
Well, this doesn’t answer the question, but it does have a wonderful analysis of how Jimmy Rollins (he of the 2.6 WAR) has been “disappointing” this year.
Gelb said on Twitter that the Phillies should try to trade something like De Fratus and Colvin for Heath Bell and Ryan Ludwick (both of whom would be pure rentals). I’ll pass.
I want them to trade for Cuddyer. The Twins have zero 1B prospects in their organizations and with Morneau’s future in doubt and his contract up after 2013, I would try and center a package around Rizzotti…maybe add a bull pen arm like a Schwimer. I know the phils can’t add payroll, so you obviously would have to sweeten the pot to have the Twins pick up a massive chunk of his prorated 10.5 contract. I don’t know enough about the prospects to know whether a deal like this is kosher, but I found it interesting that Rizzotti was originally drafted by the Twins in 2004 before the Phils grabbed him in 07.
"Have you seen this Perez guy pitch? I'm a pacifist, but I've never seen anything so violent look so beautiful."
I don’t think Rizzotti has much value. He went through waivers during spring training, so if the Twins wanted him they could have had him for free then.
Agreed. I think some fans over value him, because he seems like a nice guy, a good story and he had pretty decent numbers last year. The other is that Rizzotti, because of his strong lack of defensive skills, would really solve their first base dilemma either, as he’d probably be better off as a DH.
He’s bat-only, and he keeps mashing. He could be an intriguing sweetener in a deal, especially to an AL team, which by itself is pretty valuable.
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by WholeCamels on Jul 12, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t know that….I guess that proves my point about not knowing enough about the prospects
"Have you seen this Perez guy pitch? I'm a pacifist, but I've never seen anything so violent look so beautiful."
by DirtyWaters on Jul 12, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
How much more does he need to prove he’s got nothing left to prove? He’s been killing minor league pitching for a solid year and a half now.
I think he needs to kill it in AAA. And I mean absolutely kill it, just flat out destroy it with a 1.100+ OPS for him to be a valuable trade chip. As a no defense player, his only value is his bat and the bar for performance is astronomically high to seperate yourself from the pack. Even then, he’s really only valuable to AL teams.
I guess that makes sense since Jack Cust didn’t make it until he broke 1.100 for a quarter of a season (albeit in the PCL in a more hitter-friendly time) after spending more than six years in AAA. At the same time, it can be fairly questioned whether things should be that way. DH isn’t really teeming with hitting talent the way one might expect. Surely if he broke .900 in AAA, that would make him better than a lot of options teams are currently using.
I just think a lot of GMs would be left with questions about him carrying that performance to the MLB. JAck Cust is a pretty bad Major Leaguer, and while Rizzotti doesn’t have his high K rate, he also has had a lower OPS at every level, and pre-2010 Rizzotti’s numbers were pretty pedestrian.
i don’t think that’s accurate. Cust is having a bad year but he averaged a respectable 1.9 WAR per season while with Oakland. DHs in general pretty much suck. The only relevant question is whether Cust (or Rizzotti, or whoever) is better than your alternatives. In Cust’s case, he generally has been.
man, I usually like Gelb
but that’s just horrible.
by perfectdepth on Jul 12, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Just so happened to be by the bullpen in Lakewood to see Ryan Duke warm up. (It was Kids’ Run the Bases, is really why – smaller WLs were in line.) His pitches really popped in the catcher’s glove, and I could see they weren’t all fastballs. He recorded two grounders to short and one weak fly ball to left field. Certainly worth following this guy.
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