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FIVE: Phillies 9, Cardinals 2

And another thing: we are really freakin' good. (Photo by Rich Schultz/Getty Images)

The only real downside to the run of astonishing success that the Phillies have enjoyed these last few years is that there's some risk of becoming desensitized to just how friggin' great it is to watch the ballclub win and win and win. Tonight's win, which featured close to everything special about the 2011 Phillies, was a great reminder of just what a treat it is to follow this team in the hands-down greatest era of its long history. 

In a year when the team has seen three starters mount credible Cy Young Award candidacies, it's only appropriate that starting pitching was key in the clincher. Facing a potent Cardinals lineup, Roy Oswalt threw seven shutout innings, holding St. Louis to five hits and striking out seven. Oswalt again gave hints that he can be a force in October, keeping the Cards off balance relying mostly on a low-90s fastball that featured sharp movement.  It was the fourth straight start and fifth in his last six in which Li'l Roy worked more than six innings. 

He left with a 3-0 lead as the Phils scored single runs in the first, fourth and sixth innings. Hunter Pence plated Jimmy Rollins with a two-out double for the first tally, and Shane Victorino accounted for the next two with a bases-loaded walk, which chased starter Jake Westbrook, and a solo homer. But the Cardinals hung around as the Phils left multiple runners on in the first, third, fourth and fifth innings. 

Those missed opportunities loomed large when Oswalt gave way to Michael Stutes in the eighth. The rookie reliever retired the first two hitters he faced, but gave up four straight singles to Jon Jay, Albert Pujols, Lance Berkman and David Friese that brought St. Louis within a run at 3-2. Charlie Manuel emerged to wave in Brad Lidge, and the hero of the 2008 championship run needed just one pitch to induce an inning-ending groundout from Allen Craig

The Phillies put the game away with six runs--roughly equaling what they'd scored in the previous week--in the bottom of the eighth. Carlos Ruiz led off with a hard grounder that Daniel Descalso couldn't handle for a two-base error, and advanced to third with one out on Rollins' single, his fourth hit of the game. Victorino followed with a sharp single up the middle that stretched the lead to 4-2. After Chase Utley was hit by a pitch from Marc Rzepzinski, pitcher number six on the evening for the Cards, to load the bases, Ryan Howard struck out. Octavio Dotel came in as the seventh Cardinals moundsman on the evening--is there anything more exciting than watching LaRussa go back and forth to the mound multiple times in an inning?--to face Pence, who chopped a grounder to Rafael Furcal at shortstop. Furcal looked at second, where Utley was already at the bag, then fired to first... a split-second too late to get Pence, as Rollins scored the fifth run. Implausibly, LaRussa left the righty Dotel in to face Raul Ibanez--and watched as the 39 year-old left fielder yanked a Dotel offering out of the yard to right for a grand slam that capped the scoring. 

Ryan Madson worked around a two-out single to finish things off in the ninth, and the celebration began. The win itself featured contributions both from the guys who've been around for the bulk of the run--Rollins with four hits, Victorino with three runs batted in, Lidge and Madson securing the last four outs--and relative newcomers Oswalt and Pence, who inevitably found himself in the center of the champagne freakout in the clubhouse, sans goggles. Here's hoping he has a few more such events to enjoy over the next six weeks or so. 

Fangraph of GLORY: 

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via www.fangraphs.com


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"It's only gonna get funner"

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Sep 17, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen to that!

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 17, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I asked for an 8-3 clincher—they did me one better. YAYYYY!

"He's a bum...this one stinks...this jerk can't play."-- A father teaching his daughter the Phillies lineup from the program roster, the Vet, c.1998

by MikeEinNC on Sep 17, 2011 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldn’t begin to explain how, but ibanez grand slam came in the 26th game, during the 104th PA since his cold streak started in august.

We officially get hot Raul through the postseason.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 17, 2011 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Perfect.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 17, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

YAYYYYYYYYY

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Sep 17, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

Hunter Pence will not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither does Carlos Beltran.

by Bud in TN on Sep 17, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then get to throw him away like an old dishrag. Market timing FTW

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 17, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should all boo him when he comes back to the ring ceremony wearing a suit

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys laugh, but rumor has it he applied for a patent for a new kind of icy/hot pad. It’s gonna be bigger than Jerry koosmans ice cream machines and Luzinski’s ribs rolled into one

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love this

That’s a great idea. Hot/Cold Raul! A pad you can flip over (every 26-30 days) and get relief as needed. Special Offer: Buy two and you can always have a Hot Raul!

by phillyinportland on Sep 18, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how, since I live like 6,000 miles away from you, but if that holds out, I’ll buy you as many beers as you want.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deal.

It’s like the epitome of hot and cold, you and I.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Hunter Pence will not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither does Carlos Beltran.

by Bud in TN on Sep 17, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

so true

may that mythical “window” never close

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Sep 17, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Never before and never since, I promise

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Golden age of Phillies baseball

by chase8008 on Sep 17, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

AZ loses

Hunter Pence will not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither does Carlos Beltran.

by Bud in TN on Sep 17, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

lol big lefty

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Sep 17, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Get well Big Piece, then get busy!

"He's a bum...this one stinks...this jerk can't play."-- A father teaching his daughter the Phillies lineup from the program roster, the Vet, c.1998

by MikeEinNC on Sep 17, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

good for them

may it last forever. but that goddamn “window” seems to be closing. well thats what baseball people say

"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX

Im not JIBTA.

by howard is better than pujols on Sep 17, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the economy has been crap…?

"What THE FUCK is a tomato pie?" - Ralf E Chubbs

Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.

by chillyphilly on Sep 17, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave,

you have no idea how that puts it all into perspective for me. Awesome.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. My first daughter was born a few months before the Phillies 2008 WS victory (and Obama’s victory), and my second was born a few months before the Phillies 2009 WS appearance.

by phatj on Sep 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like old times.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 17, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how Jayson Werth feels...

I don’t missed him now that we have Pence.

"What THE FUCK is a tomato pie?" - Ralf E Chubbs

Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.

by chillyphilly on Sep 17, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t miss him nearly as much either.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. Same person who was bellyaching about the Phillies signing Lee at Werth’s expense this is.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 18, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know who I really miss? Danys Baez. If only we had him to pitch to Craig tonight instead of Lidge.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, I was wrong a time or two ()not about the need for more offense… but about the details, definitely).

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys....

Are probably looking past tonight and are still incredibly bitter about those four prospects we gave up for Pence. Sad, because you are missing some current greatness.

by Amandah on Sep 17, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

it's YOUS

"He's a bum...this one stinks...this jerk can't play."-- A father teaching his daughter the Phillies lineup from the program roster, the Vet, c.1998

by MikeEinNC on Sep 17, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

what

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Sep 17, 2011 11:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Loads of teeth gnashing here.

by Trev223 on Sep 17, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No regards? :(

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does have a point insofar as every “extra” game the Phillies win HFA-throughout by this year stands as a further indictment of the trade and all of its dumbass supporters. If you win HFA-throughout by 10 games, then you didn’t need to pick up a 4-WAR player. Yes he’ll help in the playoffs and next year, but the price doesn’t match the benefit.

But tonight is for partying. We can talk about that more after we’re done celebrating.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just meant Amandah normally finishes her comments with “Regards, Amandah.” And she didn’t this time. Such a disappointment.

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

“she”

I actually meant that more as a reply to he/she/it. Just misplaced the reply is all.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Though seeing as Amandah is a joke account, I guess it could be a guy posing as a girl. She/he is a Fightins.com commenter whose posts are frequently disturbingly sexual in nature and they normally end with “Regards, Amandah.” He/she has been around here a few times with the same schtick. It’s actually the only redeeming quality about Fightins.com comments anymore.

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s always been my assumption that it’s a guy posing. I think there are a lot more pervert guys out there who would find that shtick amusing than there are women.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That I have the sense of humor of a 10-year old helps. ;-)

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hah. No, I mean amusing enough to actually do the shtick.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I gotcha now.

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

And even though I find the schtick amusing, I could not do it myself.

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

True, but the Pence trade was never about the 2011 regular season. It was about the playoffs and the next two years.

Still, I think we’re really going to miss Singleton in two or three years.

by dajafi on Sep 18, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to do a double-take when I went to post a Facebook status about the Phillies as the five time NL East Champions. Five times. In a row. I mean, that’s an impressive stretch of success no matter how you slice it.

"What's gonna happen is that you jerk off the ball. You almost want to let this guy here jam you, and if it comes, it comes." Gary 'Sarge' Matthews

by Senor Octubre on Sep 17, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely… totally amazing.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even popping the champagne, no big deal

"You play to win the playoffs, and we let 'em off the hook!" -Herm Mora Green

by jrobulls on Sep 17, 2011 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

whatever.

Welcome to the City of Brotherly Love, now GTFO

by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 17, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, guys, one bottle. Then I’ve got to go paint the shed.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

winning

"This team (Philadelphia Eagles) gives me the best chance of winning a Super Bowl."
-Michael Vick #7

by anuj on Sep 17, 2011 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

OH! I met Cliff Lee yesterday at a Target in Langhorne, PA

I forgot to mention it. I was waiting in line when I noticed the guy a person in front of me looked eerily like Lee. He was with his daughter. While she sat in the cart, she dropped one of her sandals. There was an old woman between us but she was oblivious to it. I stepped in front and picked up her sandal, handed it back to Cliff. We had a short conversation after he thanked me. He’s a real cool, normal guy.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Sep 17, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Why the hell is he shopping at Target?

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Because he’s likes to shop among us normal folk.

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Sep 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because it’s awesome.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he’s staunchly anti-union.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 18, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rebelling against his Walmart Arkansas roots

2/4/6 and counting...

by DirtyWaters on Sep 18, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

how could you forget to mention that? how is that even possible? what the hell’s the matter with you?!?

by lpfist on Sep 18, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say it in the Gamethread, but I thought it’d get lost so I refrained from it. Then cue long talk with GF about life, the universe, bubble tea, and “The Help” (I give it a 7 out of 10, for what it’s worth).

So… I forgot. lol

"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain

by soman319 on Sep 18, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got home just in time- watched the first two innings at my house, then went out to dinner. Listened to Lidge get the last out in the top of the eighth, then the loading of the bases in the car on the way home- got in the door with the TV on just in time to see Ibanez’s slam and the top of the ninth. So glad that I was home to see it this year.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Apologies to Fitzgerald

“Most of the big stadia were hopeless now and there were hardly any lights except the shadowy, moving glow of a cloud of moths across the outfield scoreboard. And as the moon rose higher the inessential scaffolding began to melt away until gradually I became aware of the diamond here that flowered once for Doubleday or other pioneers’ eyes — a fresh, green and white promise of a new game. Its vanished lines, the lines that had made way for our baseline slides, had once pandered in whispers to the last and greatest of all human dreams; for a transitory enchanted moment man must have held his breath in the presence of this congruity, compelled into an aesthetic contemplation he neither understood nor desired, face to face for the last time in history with something commensurate to his capacity for wonder.

And as I sat there, brooding on what was once the known world, I thought of Harry’s wonder when he first picked out the red cap at the opposing end of Hinkse’s strikeout. He had come a long way to that second consecutive blue flag and his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it. He did not know that it was already behind him, somewhere back in that vast obscurity of mid-street parked cars, of Broad Street, where the dark fields of the republic rolled on under the night.

Harry believed in the red cap, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It did not elude us then, and does not elude us now, but that’s no matter — tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther…. And one fine morning —"

by Trev223 on Sep 17, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

tl;dr: My dad loves the Great Gatsby, and he loves the Phillies. It’s nice to be able to understand why.

by Trev223 on Sep 17, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bats beat endlessly on

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 18, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket. “Vámonos, amigos,” he whispered, and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlecock. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were at the game tonight. Tried to check in here, but the thread wouldn’t load.

Anywho, I’ve never seen a grand slam live, and have never been present for a division winning game.

It was a great time, and a family experience we’ll never forget.

by dylan1066 on Sep 18, 2011 12:00 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

grand slams I've seen live

Kaz Matsui, 2007 NLDS – BOO

Shane Victorino, 2008 NLDS – YAY

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw the first one live, too. 2008 was nice mind bleach for it.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008 was nice mind bleach for a lot of things.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I saw Edgar Martinez hit one against the Yankees. Most amazing baseball game I’ve ever seen in person.

This, though, despite being almost predictable, and being a billion miles away, is way better.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad you got to experience all of it- wonderful night to be at the park!

I got to see Pedro Feliz’s GS against the Astros in ’09- very cool.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was there for that one, too. I remember looking at his stats on the board (he’d hit 11 homers by that point) and thinking, “He’s going to go yard on the first pitch.”

I got to see one other: Howard blasted one against the Dodgers. I think that was 2008. They won 9-2 that day; Pat the Bat got things rolling with a 3-run shot.

by Airedale260 on Sep 18, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that I was in a ready to kill someone mood that night (I had splashed out for tickets to bring my mom and brother to the game- lower level seats inside of the first base bag on StubHub), only for them to get there way late- I didn’t get into the game until there were 2 outs in the top of the fourth. The grand slam made things a lot better, and is my second favorite memory of that night (the first was my brother in his red body paint with the white P on his chest).

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

If cliff lee is the World Series MVP… will Rube’s smug-o-meter explode? Food for thought.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah, it’ll stay at red. Now, if Hunter is the WS MVP, then yes.

by Airedale260 on Sep 18, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smugometer: Def-Con Infinity Awesome!

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

as I was saying...
Really hoping to see at the game tomorrow night….a Braves win tomorrow afternoon, a vintage Oswalt performance to calm everyone’s nerves, and a crowd that is into the game before the 9th inning

check and check…thank you BaseBa’al

2/4/6 and counting...

by DirtyWaters on Sep 18, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

interesting Oswalt info

“This guy has worked hard to get back to where he is,” Dubee said. “We might be finding a new trick in the works. That night in Washington where he warmed up, and it rained, then he went the next night and pitched great. Yesterday, he came out and threw a ’pen, and today, his arm speed was great. That may be something we do the rest of the year.”

2/4/6 and counting...

by DirtyWaters on Sep 18, 2011 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Worth a try- those two starts have been his best since coming back from the DL.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

After taking last year’s playoff loss to the Giants real hard, this season began for me the night that Cliff Lee decided to come back to us. The electricity that filled this city during those couple of weeks has never left most of us Phillies fans and has resulted in a special season and a fifth straigh NL East title. I wanna to go all the way to the WFC but I am also grateful for all the cool times the Phillies have given me so far in 2011.

Now as Hunter Pence said tonight, “Let’s Go Pop Bottles!”

by SportzDude on Sep 18, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I remember September 30, 2007 like it was yesterday.

How did we get here?

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I still wonder a bit, but I think after the Mets collapsed, it was a sort of "Wait, these guys are our competition?

by Airedale260 on Sep 18, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our guys are truly phenomenal, and they’ve hit their stride these past few years.

by Airedale260 on Sep 18, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Minaya sabotaging their team also helped

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a nice night for a clinch. Can’t you feel postseason ball in the air?

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly 1000 comments in the game thread! Wow.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Five years

It gives one goosebumps.

Personally, I think this is great, but obviously anything less is a disappointment this year -I want to see these guys get their Series rings. Of course, I want them to get several, but this year especially.

by Airedale260 on Sep 18, 2011 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe the Phillies will clinch the #1 seed with 1 more win.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

that’s right…I forgot that the tiebreaker applys

1/4/6 and counting...

by DirtyWaters on Sep 18, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t the Diamondbacks have the tiebreaker, though?

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Sep 18, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is irrelevant.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Lesson In T-Mac Suckiness

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19350675&tcid=fb_PHI_19350675&c_id=phi&v=2

First you get the TV Broadcast’s impressions of the win, then you get the Radio. T-Mac, while I don’t have as big a problem with him as others (though I don’t like him) starts talking about how surprising this run is, and mentions how it has to end eventually. He also has a big speech prepared too, so he knows what he’s saying. He mentions how they know how to celebrate before any celebration too.

The Radio just mentions five straight. Basic stuff.

I would really like everyone on TV to be fired.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Really. Last two starts, who’s looked better?

And I say again, this is one of those “good problems.” And I’m FUCKING GLAD!

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. Steve… “Lequan”… Glover!!!

by FanSince1993 on Sep 18, 2011 1:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is immensely gratifying. Thank you.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You need that kind of reply to get off? Grow the fuck up. I can’t believe you are a functioning member of society.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like it’s fourth grade. Ever since I began posting here, you have had an unnamed issue with me, and have stalked me around this site. You reply to my posts nearly instantly with an insult or a jab at me, and almost always unrelated to my post. I’d ask why but I know I’d never get a satisfactory response. You are only here to troll people. It’s sick. You are a disgrace to this site and this community.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you are actually a Dr. I find it weird that you’d list that… reminds me of a professor I know that has is name as “Dr. John Smith Phd” on his credit card… (names have been changed to protect the non-innocent).

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

That I’d list what?

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Dr” as part of your title on a sports blog.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you find his statement so gratifying? Are you doing it for the lulz?

by ThinMountainAir on Sep 18, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude. Chill the fuck out. You’re seriously bogarting the fun here.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude.

Way to piss in the celebration cornflakes.

Let's go eat...a triceratops. /velociraptor'd

by LeepinLizardz on Sep 18, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve barely stopped reading and participating in the comments sections because of holier than though dickheads like taco pal. They can run this site any way they please, but that dude is totally compensating for something.

by Nikk.m on Sep 18, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Again TP not taking his “don’t be an ass” advice… love it though!

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love what, his not taking his own advice, or his random post aimed at insulting and shaming me?

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

column A and column B… I have always found that, although TP will rip you when you are wrong, if you just admit your wrongness he backs off being a dick about it.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you are saying we all must have the same opinion as Taco Pal to avoid his wrath? Fuck that. Fuck all of this.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t come here to be randomly insulted for liking Vance Worley more than Roy Oswalt. And I don’t come here to have my comments committed to memory and repasted over my future comments as some sort of public shaming. This is now how this site should work.

Does no one see a problem with how Taco Pal acts? He pulls this shit with a lot of people. It’s juvenile to a point that it should be unacceptable.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where do you normally go for public shaming?

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s your big fucking reply to this shit?! Fuck you dude. I am fucking of the shit on here.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow glad you went to school longer to learn the big words. Man… learn to take a little good natured joking and ribbing when you are wrong… people will like you more.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, given that you are a Dr, you should have fudged TP’s physical so that trade could have gone through. Then everything would be ok.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, you don’t understand. This has been going on for months. I am sick of it now. I’ve dealt with way too much to have a newcomer to this start singling me out as the bad guy, and Taco Pal as some kind of good natured clown. I’ve told him over and over I don’t appreciate it, and he keeps going. He’s the one you should focus on.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You clearly don’t have a sense of humor dude. You found my VERY corny old joke about “Where do you normally go for X” to be offensive.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not in the mood for jokes. What are you missing? Trying to diffuse the situation or something? I am legitimately pissed off. I have tried to make that clear to you, and you are missing it. I want this issue ended once and for all. I am sick of Taco Pal.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

For someone who was accusing TP of being juvenile you are sure acting a bit childish… it’s a sports blog. If you can’t grow a sense of humor, fake it. It will make people want to make fun of you less.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell is going on? Are you real?

I made a post about how the TV Announcers and the Radio Announcers handled the end of tonight’s game differently. Taco Pal did what he has done for months, commenting on something I said in the past in the form of going into my posting history and displaying it in a “Look at this stupid thing you said” manner. I, having had enough of it, flipped shit. And I am still in that mindset. I did not come to be insulted. And it is an insult. And it is a form of stalking, as he does this on most of my posts. I am sick of it.

You most likely cannot relate, as Taco Pal does not do this to you. But how am I in the wrong here? I did not post “I have come for you Taco Pal. Now you will pay.” I came to comment on Tim McCarthy. And now I am getting this shit. I did nothing to warrant any of this, and I will not be lectured by you on how to act.

I have let things slide. I have ignored him. I have reported him. I have called him out for being childish. Nothing works. So I am trying this. If you have a problem with me calling out someone who is a giant asshole towards me and many others, and is known for acting that way, re-evaluate the situation.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stop asking for it by being a martyr maybe? If TP did that to me I would have just said “I stand by it” if I do or “Wow I don’t know what I was smoking” if I didn’t. Not brain surgery here…. but I’m no Dr.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

What aren’t you understanding? I’ve done that. A lot. This is me trying something new.

So far, Taco Pal has stopped replying, but you keep going. And for what? You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know, and you keep thinking that you’re going to teach me something about how to deal with a bully.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mean to sound patronizing, but I really think you need to calm down. This is a forum on the Internet. Things said on an Internet sports site generally do not matter. You’re taking taco pal’s criticisms far too personally. Seriously. We are all just disembodied voices – words on a damn screen. Frankly I think taco pal is being a bit harsh, but saying “fuck” a lot isn’t going to help.

by ThinMountainAir on Sep 18, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps if one did not make so many dumb comments, one would not find themselves in the position that you so often do.

by philsandthrills on Sep 18, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.
I hope you realize how funny this is though.

by philsandthrills on Sep 18, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure it’s a riot. Nothing says good time like reveling in someone else’s misery.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is worth noting my first post here was calling TP out for his light hypocrisy…

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the rest of them calling me out for nothing at all. Taco Pal has been pulling this shit for months. I am sick of it.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh.

I am fucking of the shit on here.

What? Calm the fuck down. Ok? We’re in the playoffs. We’ve won the division. We’re the best team in baseball. We’re the best team since this franchise was founded in the Nineteenth Century! Really!

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down? Why? I wanted to talk about the playoffs. I posted talking about the playoffs. And I was thrown into a debate I was having days ago. And then you randomly joined in on it.

Instead of reccing Taco Pal and joining in the “I hate your opinion” parade, why not chastise him for his out of line behavior? Certainly you can see how it was irrelevant, off topic, and out of place – regardless of your feelings towards Worley vs. Oswalt.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 18, 2011 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t rec Taco, and I don’t “hate your opinion,” I just disagree with you.

You’ve got a good point, in that he’s coming off a little harsh, but come on—let it go. We’ve clinched the playoffs. Have a beer on me.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 For the humor.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this above or below the Kenny powers “This is gonna b good” gif?

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re both great, but situationally different. This is the “I’ve arrived late to this party, but I’m enjoying the shit out of this”, whereas the other is an “I’m here from the get go and Aw shit, dis gun b good.”

by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 18, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) you’re getting way too upset about this 2) it’s not anybody’s job to “chastise” another member 3) the fact that nobody is “chastising” someone may have less to do with whether they agree or “rec” them than just not wanting to be where you’re at now – annoyed & frustrated on a night when it just feels good to be a Phillies fan.
  
  you’re not required to respond to every comment directed at you. just let some shit go.

by lpfist on Sep 18, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What did TP do that was so out of line?… He literally just posted things that you (Dr. Steve) said in the past… he didn’t even criticize them or call them stupid. If you (Dr. Steve) stick by your post shouldn’t you be happy that TP is reiterating them? Obviously TP can be a dick and it sounds like you feel he’s been more of a dick to you then it warranted… but this seems like a weird straw to break the Dr’s back.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does the straw matter if it’s that last one? You can’t look at a single instance and judge me based on that. I have tried explaining how often this happens, how out of line Taco Pal is when dealing with me, and how he focuses in on me and hounds me on here. I am sorry I cannot display a timeline of events of our previous encounters, and I understand no one wants to give me any margin for error.

I see myself being attacked and insulted for how I acted here, but in the past no one gave a second look when I passed it off or ignored it. But it builds, and it affects someone, and no one cared at all. So now, when I do draw attention to it, I’m the target for ridicule, and everyone goes back to “haha remember when we traded Taco Pal? Boy he’s a lovable scamp. I don’t care how much of an asshole he is to others.”

This is the result of months of his abuse of me. You can see it as me being a freak and make fun of me, or you can understand that I have never once gone after or provoked Taco Pal, and the way he acts on here is intolerable and should be curtailed. He is nothing more than a troll, one of the worst kinds of people for a community. He acts this way, and he continues to act this way, and someone should care.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

He posted that to make fun of me. He has done this for months. He does not like my opinion, and acts like a child and displays what he sees as stupidity to make sure others see it and view me that way. It’s happened for a while.

More to the point, why is it acceptable to you? It was not what my post was about, it was as off topic as can be. It was also him dragging in a previous argument as a means of attacking me.

It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.

by Dr. Steve on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking of the shit

  = reverse dumptrucking.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I should have been able to make the connection… unfortunately, I had to use Google and I am now blind.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m more disturbed that I made the connection.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is our concern, Dude.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

umadbro?

Throw style points out the window.

Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum. Is very bad.

CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH!!!!1!111!!

by BigLumber55 on Sep 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loved seeing him get the champagne in the back of the pants. I can even forgive the wasting of the champagne on him.

by Sisko on Sep 18, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Utley or Howard or someone is gonna be the Phillies’ Mickey Mantle. This is so unbelieveably awesome—to be a fan of a team in it’s literal “golden age,” and to be able to connect with the team as closely as I can now (listening to the radio, as opposed to reading the next day’s box scores) is such a gift. Thank you, God.

I’m overreacting, somewhat, I’m sure, but what the hell.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 3:26 AM EDT reply actions  

The Mick

How about the switch-hitting center fielder?

by phillyinportland on Sep 18, 2011 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see where you’re going. Good point… The Wailuku Comet?

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now....

But San Francisco has pulled to within 5 games of both Atlanta and Arizona, with 10 left to play, including a huge series this weekend at Arizona.

They’ve won 7 in a row. and 9 of their last twelve.

In those seven games, they’ve outscored their opponents 45-18. That includes the 5 runs against yeaterday.

they’ve scored 6 or more runs in 7 of those 12 games.

To put that into perspective, they scored 6 or more runs 14 times in their previous 140 games.

For all the talk about crapshoots and 5 game series opponents, San Francisco is noty who I want to see in the NLDS.

The Braves and Diamondbacks, need to, as Liz Roscher aptly tweeted, stop fucking around and put the Giants away

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Dbacks have 3 with the Pirates, that might help.

by EastFallowfield on Sep 18, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

Talk about an epic collapse. Pirates were tied for 1st and 6 games over .500 on July 25th. Since then?

15- 37.

Yowsa.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the crash of the 1999 Phillies: On August 6th, 61-48 and 5.5 games out of first, 4.0 games behind wild card leader Atlanta. After that, 16-37 to finish 77-85, 26 games behind first-place Atlanta.

by phillyinportland on Sep 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this yesterday afternoon, and I got a little scared at the prospect of facing them in the playoffs. I know, no matter what it’s a crapshoot, and no matter what, you are going to face quality teams in the playoffs but still, anyone but them.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Sep 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially because their offense this year is even worse that last year’s edition.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm having a hard time deciding which half of last year's offense is missing this year.

 
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                                                                                                              .or
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by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, ^THIS. Get your shit together, ATL and AZ.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a 5 game series they scare me ….plus it feels like last year with the end of the year run/stumble into the post season win by one run wunderkinds. If they were to repeat, I’d seriously start to question if baseball is a sport.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. This BS must end now.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its the 5 game series that scares me too. by the way, they’ve scored 11 runs today…

And Atlanta lost…

UGH….

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh?

Man, I love the new LOLBarves.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no. We want the most inept teams to make the playoffs, not miss them. It’s OK if they only make it in by the hair of their chiny, chinchin-beards. I swear to all that’s holy if the friggin SFG make the playoffs and the Phils get them in the first round, and the Phils lose to those f*ckholes two years in a row, I may lose my GD mind.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not, I’m much more concerned about the Barves than the Hitless Wonders out west. Regardless of their play three weeks before the playoffs, the Barves are a significantly better team, in my opinion.

Plus, watching the Braves transform into the LOLBarves is almost as much fun as us winning.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree if the Barves were still the whole team they were a few months ago, but the SFG’s pitching staff is much tougher as it stands right now than I believe the Barves to be. Also, we’d get SFG first round and them in a short series?!? Eeek.

Barves wouldn’t be until NLCS and I don’t necessarily think they’d get that far. Whatever. Crapshoot.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chances are, this SF hitting surge won’t last. Their last four games were at Coors.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

From your fingertips to Baseba’als’ ears.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no need to worry I think.

In any event, there’s a part of me that would kind of like to get them back this year, instead of just having them beat themselves. High risk, high reward, I know.

by taco pal on Sep 18, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me. I want the path of least resistance. If that makes me a wimp, so be it.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s more likely to be SF than Atlanta, personally. I know the Barves are depleted and all, but they worry me more than any other team.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, it seems like only yesterday that a vicious year-long fight with the Bastard Mets ended with the Phillies clinching the division with 91 wins on the penultimate day of the season. Man, how times have changed since ’08.

by ThinMountainAir on Sep 18, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I had nightmares the night before we clinched in ‘08 about Lidge blowing his first save. I woke up and told my father about it and he said, "Remember how you felt when Joe Carter hit that home run? I don’t think you’re going to feel that way this year." And it took every ounce of bravado he had to say that, because he’d gotten his heart broken so many times.

Later that night, Jimmy Rollins clinched the title for us.

by Sisko on Sep 18, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox are shitting in their socks.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Rays have 10 stolen bases against the Red Sox this series.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a beautiful thing.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Sep 18, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that they gambled on Eric Bedard staying healthy for more than a day and half.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in God’s name happened in here?

by FuquaManuel on Sep 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Dr. Steve, a.k.a. a guy chiding someone for acting childish while acting about as mature as a 7-year old.

Writer at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Sep 18, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Jacques Derrida. Annoying but interesting post-modern “philosopher”. There’s people here better equipped to discuss or rail against his work. But in terms of smugness, RAJ is a mere piss ant. Very “answers to himself-ness”, a criticism that is often leveled against postmodernism but as in “answers to itself” which is perfectly acceptable for the arts though I imagine quite a problem for historians, political scientists, philosphers and cultural theorists who may require more rigorous standards.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I envy the mind that can roll from “reverse dumptrucking” to post-modernist philosophy to power tools to Lovecraft to Hair Metal in a single conversation.

You are the man, j reed.

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much it, but small cavil: Derrida really isn’t postmodern. Postmodernism is more of a reaction to Derrida and other deconstructionists like him. Some of his work is absolutely as diffuse as you say, but his linguistic critiques are pretty rigorous, and not simply limited to artistic analysis. His denial of Sausseurian linguistics is absolutely foundational to much contemporary thinking, for better or for worse.

PS: I know you don’t mean nothing by it, so I won’t get all upinarms about the claim that the arts (i.e. literary analysis) has a lesser rigor than cultural theory, philosophy, or political science (!).

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So while we’re talking about post-modernism, what comes next? Pre-futurism?

by Phrozen on Sep 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, knowing academia, pre-futurism is as likely as anything else. But, if the trends stay as they are, at least in lit, what comes next is Marxist revival/a greater attention to the economy.

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

academic post-modernism has neutralized much of what was formerly Marxist academia, in my view… people should do more Capital, less Marxist cultural theory

by yolacrary on Sep 18, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, to be sure. I think if we’re talking about what’s coming back — or, more honestly, what I’m guessing is coming back — it’d be more Marxism based around Marx and his economic critiques, not the cultural aspects. Marxist cultural theory has run its course.

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Viva la difference!

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, by the arts I wasn’t specific – I meant the works of art and artists themselves not as in the arts and humanities.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohh, sorry. Like I said, I know your politics, so I didn’t take it personally — sorry to misconstrue.

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I took a course on Derrida in college and then he came to the school and refuted nearly everything our professor taught us of his works in class. So, basically yes.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were you at Irvine?

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, Villanova.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The course was “Deconstruction and Religion” FWIW.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, cool. I guessed Irvine because of a professor of mine who took a course with him, but Villanova makes sense, too. Regardless of his ego, I bet it was kind of fascinating to have Derrida come in. I hear he’s a pretty seductive thinker in person (looks aside, for sure).

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yes. He’s very charasmatic. But whoo, boy, between him and the other philosophy professors on stage, it was an ego fest.

I once had a class that was team taught by 4, count ‘em, 4 different professors (1 marxist professor, 1 nietzchian philosopher, 1 conservative social sciences prof and 1 women’s studies/english prof). It was a massive failure because they basically argued throughout every single m-effing class. Everyone at the end of the semester obtained a B or better because all the profs admitted their own failure to communicate to the class.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Augh, that sounds brutal. I can’t imagine a multi-professored class that wouldn’t end that way. The worst part about those types of arguments is how repetitive they get; you can raise the level of discourse, but a pissing match is a pissing match.

by Trev223 on Sep 18, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, they just use fancier words.

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever it was, I think we’re too late.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well you didn't exactly think this through now did you....


Who’s gonna play creepy all hell Princess Natalia Dragomiroff?

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

*as all dammit, not all.

by j reed on Sep 18, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

even in victory, Philadelphians find a way to divide eachother and get into fights. Feels like home

I’m all for Oswalt

I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 18, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The thrill of victory and the agony of reading about it the next day. /Schmidt’d

What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.

by doubleh on Sep 18, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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