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Danny Espinosa Eats Babies: Nationals 7, Phillies 5

John Mayberry, Jr: A Big Slice Of Awesome. (Photo by Hunter Martin/Getty Images)

The Phillies continued playing frustrating baseball tonight, losing to the Nationals 7-5. This was the first time they've lost five straight games all season. May 22-27, 2010 was their last five-game losing streak. And we all know nothing awesome happened after that. The last time the Phillies lost five straight games at home? You have to go back to Summer 2009. 

There was no one thing to blame for tonight's loss. Different parts of the lineup performed (sucked) in different ways. Vance Worley turned in another less than great outing, going six innings and giving up four runs on six hits with three walks and six strikeouts. All of his runs came via the home run. In the eighth, Justin De Fratus hit Danny Espinosa with a pitch (hahaha) then walked the next batter, so he was pulled before he could do any further damage. But then he gave way to Antonio Bastardo, he of low self confidence and four-days rest. Bastardo allowed both of his inherited runners to score on a throwing error (his own, that'll help the self-esteem) and a single. And then he gave up another run and a hit, as if we weren't already freaked out enough.  The hitting was also pretty atrocious. Rollins, Victorino, Polanco, and Utley went a combined 0-for-16 with two walks. All of the damage was done by the lower half of the batting order. 

There were a few good things. Both Joe Blanton and Michael Schwimer turned in scoreless innings, which their respective ERAs sorely needed. Schwimer also showed off a nice move to first, nearly picking off pinch runner Brian Bixler. Brian Schneider would subsequently catch Bixler stealing second. Five straight singles in the bottom of the second had the score tied 2-2. Raul Ibanez plated John Mayberry, Jr. in the third, which was the go-ahead run. At the time. Mayberry also jacked a two-run homer (his 15th) in the eighth which brought the Phillies to within two. Mayberry went 3-for-4 on the night, as did Ben Francisco. Vance Worley even went 1-for-2 with an RBI. 

The Nationals went from a team I pitied to a team I despise pretty quickly. Their players won't stop yakking about how good they're about to be. Davey Johnson always looks like he's someone's lost grandpa. John Lannan can't stop throwing pitches at the Phillies. And then there's Danny Espinosa. Espinosa, who is a .238 hitter in 2011, has turned into a Phillie Killer. In 17 games against the Phillies, he's 20-for-59 with three doubles, six walks, and 15 RBI. Espinosa has seven home runs against the Phillies. Seven. His total for the year? 21. A full 1/3 of his home runs have come against the Phillies. That's insane, especially because Danny Espinosa is not a good baseball player. 

I hate Danny Espinosa.

Both Ryan Howard and Hunter Pence sat out tonight. Pence could be seen in the dugout, talking John Bowker's ear off and looking distinctly awkward and out of place. It's easy to tell how much he really, really hates not playing. He is miserable on the bench.

It's really super not fun to watch the Phillies play like this. But the games? They're completely and utterly meaningless. And it's not like we're the only ones that know that. The players know that as well. I want them rested and healthy for the playoffs. And things in baseball can turn on a dime. Just as fast as the faucet turned off, it can be turned on again. If you don't believe me, take a look at the Wild Card races. 

I'm not kidding, Danny Espinosa makes me physically ill.

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I think the Phillies are just trolling us/lulling playoff opponents into a false sense of security

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!

by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 21, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I just pray they don’t lose in the 1st round to St Louis…I don’t think I’d be able to take the negadelphian, fansince09 reaction to those chickens coming home to roost

counting...they obviously don't care, why should I?

by DirtyWaters on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope to god they are but if they come out in the first round and play flat and uninterested…heads are going to roll

by Easedel on Sep 22, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a line needs to be drawn in the sand here

No ponies. Just no. This has infected too many places already.

by JamesFromPhilly on Sep 22, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I personally very much dislike the ponies.

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!

by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 22, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome title Liz!

counting...they obviously don't care, why should I?

by DirtyWaters on Sep 21, 2011 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Brilliant.

I felt like I thought it hit me - Chase Utley

by SandPhlea on Sep 22, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

Made me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5pkAgFcyNo&feature=related

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!

by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 22, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

For what it’s worth, until Howard and Pence return there probably will continue to be poor offense, and the coaches won’t care that much. The Braves will see a better lineup than the Nationals or Mets, and depending on who pitches for the Phillies they may run into a team that will be hard to beat in the final three games as they strive to clinch the wild card berth.

by phillyinportland on Sep 22, 2011 2:29 AM EDT reply actions  

To be fair, if looking awkward and out of place is a key indicator of how miserable one is, then I’d sooner trust Dr. Evil with nuclear launch codes than Hunter Pence.

by RaptorLC on Sep 22, 2011 4:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t say Danny Espinosa isn’t good at baseball. Weren’t “they” talking about him as a NL RoY candidate? I don’t haveany stats because I don’t care about the Nationals, but I think I did read that.

Let's go eat...a triceratops. /velociraptor'd

by LeepinLizardz on Sep 22, 2011 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

he’s a decent ballplayer… but he’s still annoying.

by yolacrary on Sep 22, 2011 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t really hate him all that much. To quote Max Cady, he’s just doing right by his job.

I don’t really hate Cody Ross either (or at least not because of the NLCS – I did have a preexisting dislike of his face). The events that took place were, of course, annoying on a cosmic level just because his performance was bullshit. Espinosa’s isn’t exactly bullshit though.

by taco pal on Sep 22, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stalkin’ like Sarge:


Cady caddy mackin’ like Sarge with a kangol on.

Sayin’ like Sarge:

Granddaddy used to handle snakes in church, Granny drank strychnine. I guess you could say I had a leg up, genetically speaking.

by j reed on Sep 22, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid, stupid face. Great recap Liz.

I think I’m going to go sans Phils till Monday. I can’t watch them play meaningless baseball without dissecting the game. It’s not fun to watch right now.

The barves series will be fun. Especially since if st.louis and Westbrook beat the mets tonight they’ll be a game back with 6 to play against the cubs and Astros, while the braves get the Nats (and strasburg Friday) followed by us….that’s four tough games against four tough pitchers for them.

Tampa and the angels are both only 2.5 back of Boston….

And the giants still have an outside shot. Could be a heck of a weekend.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 22, 2011 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Yankees are making it tough on Tampa

by yolacrary on Sep 22, 2011 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baltimore is making it tough on Boston.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 22, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

true, but they can back in

by yolacrary on Sep 22, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

bold prediction:

phillies get swept in the first round.

3 straight loses to the Nats… WHAT THE FUCK! I blame Casey Matthews.

Casey Matthews isn't the MLB anymore but he still sucks.

Vance Worley > Roy Oswalt and Joe Blanton

Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful. We have suffered agony through the years. Philadelphians should be jovial for their teams' success.

by chillyphilly on Sep 22, 2011 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

What’s the matter sweetie?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Sep 22, 2011 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
Never call a Phillies, Eagles, Flyers or Sixers fans, a band-wagoner. It is disrespectful.

by taco pal on Sep 22, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, just caught that. Tremendous.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Sep 22, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year the Phils did better vs Nats than they without Cliff Lee than they did this year with them. Therefore I conclude Cliff Lee makes the team worse. Is that right? Trying to apply the logic I learned yesterday with the Hunter Pence post.

by Everybody Hits on Sep 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Yep…individual player contributions by how everyone else on the team plays.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 22, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Liz, you made a lot of Nats fans angry today. Keep up the good work!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Sep 22, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah. In sports being hated is another sign the Nationals are closer to being relevant

Not that the Nationals ARE relevant yet – but at least the team can now see relevant from where they are standing. It’s only when a team becomes relevant that opposing fans can work up a decent dislike for them. Phillie fans should recognize it, since the transition from indifference/pity to dislike is pretty much what happened to the way other fans thought about the Phillies about 10 years ago.

by d_c_guy on Sep 22, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

This does not make sense as a response to the comment you responded to.

by taco pal on Sep 22, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liz's post gives no reason for a Nats fan to be angry

I would instead posit that, for a Nats fan, a Phillie fanpost expressing that “The Nationals went from a team I pitied to a team I despise pretty quickly” wouldn’t make the Nats fan angry. It should instead be taken as a promising sign for the team – much like the idea that the Phillies transitioning from indifference/pity to being fairly universally disliked over the past several years coincides with the Phillies being one of the best teams in MLB.

by d_c_guy on Sep 22, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t (obviously) speak for all of Phillydom, here, but I don’t despise the Nats. I despise Danny Espinosa. I despise John Lannan. I expect I will despise Bryce McDoucher. I despise the arrogance of Nats players saying that in a year or so, it will be their fans packing CBP, rather than the other way around.

But I like Jayson Werth. I like Stephen Strasburg. I like Ivan Rodriguez. I even like Rick Ankiel. I like the team in general (except their shameless use of the Walgreen’s logo).

I would also guess that the main reason Liz and others despise the Gnats is this current series and Danny Espinosa’s Barajasian performance against us this year.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I really like Stephen Strausburg… I feel like I might grow to hate him when he beats us… but he is just an insanely talented and reasonably nice dude.

by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 22, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you despise Espinosa outside of his “ownage” of the Phillies? seems like a nice little ballplayer… did he say something?

by yolacrary on Sep 22, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as far as I know—just the ownage. I can’t stand the ownage. Especially from a guy hitting .238.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Espinosa

will most likely be relevant when Chase Utley’s long gone.

by Elvin Unseld on Sep 24, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a Nats player made a comment about Nats Fans packing CBP next year, I can see where that would be irritating

I’ve never seen that comment by a Nats player; I’ve seen some fans engage in that sort of wishful thinking, but every fandom has its delusional side.

I don’t despise Raul Ibanez, the Philies equivalent of Espinosa’s pwnage of the Phillies this year. But I’ll be really happy when he’s no longer on the Phillies. He must hit .340 against the Nationals and .240 against everyone else.

Lannan is not generally popular in DC, but mostly because he’s hard to watch – he likes to put the first two runners on base every inning and see if he can get out of it. The fact that he’s able to do it drives the sabremetric crowd crazy, but watching him do it can make a Nats fan’s eyeballs bleed. Given his record against the Phillies he should be the most popular guy on the Nats – he’s actually kind of OK against everyone else (in a meh, solid #4 or #5 starter sort of way) but uber lousy against the Phillies. I would think that would be enough to have forgiven him for the errant plunkage of Utley by now.

Speaking of whom, I’ve liked Utley since the 2009 WS. I was rooting for the Yankees in that series, but he was simply amazing. I thought that he deserved the WS MVP even though the Phillies lost.

by d_c_guy on Sep 22, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone said it… can’t remember who. It was on the radio the other day.

Speaking of Raul, though, it might interest you to know that, sorted by OPS, the Nationals are his third favorite team 0.988. The first and second? Seattle (1.045) and Philadelphia (1.043). How’s that for irony.

Regarding Lannan, I suggest you check out the “In Defense of John Lannan” vs The Case Against John Lannan series of articles. You might find them amusing. Haven’t been any in a while.

But anyway, the point of all this is that while I may detest certain aspects of a team, I generally don’t despise them. I reserve that for the Barves.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know also despise Davey Johnson and his bush league bullpen management. Seriously, fuck that guy.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now. I now also despise Davey Johnson.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Davey Lopez?

by FanSince1993 on Sep 22, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

right, I meant to say…. she means Davey Johnson; also, de Fratus gave up a HBP and a walk, not a walk and a sacrifice

by yolacrary on Sep 22, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, I meant Davey Johnson. And you’re correct about De Fratus as well, I must have completely hallucinated the outing I thought he had.

by lizroscher on Sep 22, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The HBP was pretty fluky, despite the 4 pitch walk I would have like to have seen de fratus with a longer leash in that situation.

by FanSince1993 on Sep 22, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So I realize these are meaningless games. And I realize it’s strictly speaking, better to get the team rested up for the playoffs.

That said, I really really really want this year’s team to cement it’s position as the best in franchise history by crushing the win record. Several years ago, when the Patriots went 15-0, Bellicheaterdouche started a bunch of kindergarteners in the last game—a fan held up a sign saying “16-0 matters to us.” That’s how I feel.

And yeah, fuck Danny Espinosa.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

So I think I’ve decided what to root for over the last few games. I want the Phillies to knock the Braves out of the playoffs next week, and I want the wild card slot to be won by the Giants. I know many of you will disagree with that. But as I see it, there will be something poetic and potentially redemptive about getting revenge for last year. I also don’t think the Phillies’ chances of winning will be all that different no matter who they play, and I don’t think losing to the Giants would be more painful than losing to the Cardinals or D-Backs. Yes, it would be awful to lose to the Giants two years in a row, but it would also be awful to lose to the Cardinals (who, under normal circumstances, I dislike much more than the Giants) or the D-Backs (whom I’ve always considered to be more of a McTeam than a real baseball franchise).

Then I’m going to root (mildly) for the D-Backs to beat the Brewers. Mainly because I kind of like the Brewers and I respect Milwaukee baseball fans, and therefore would feel ever-so-slightly guilty about the Phillies eliminating them. Whereas I would feel nothing of the sort with the D-Backs. It would only be a mild preference though. The Brewers would undoubtedly be the worthier opponent.

But YMMV.

by taco pal on Sep 22, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s a lot more than went into what I’m rooting for: the Phils to win their next 18 consecutive games, regardless of opponent.

Although knocking the Barves out of the playoffs altogether would be fun too.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your idea of the revenge factor versus the Giants. So far, there have been only two times when the Phillies have had re-matches in the playoffs in consecutive years: 1977-78 against the LA Dodgers. The Phillies lost both of those LCS meetings, 3-1, often in excruciating fashion. And then the 2008-09 LCS meetings with the Dodgers, both won by the Phillies, 4-1, often in dramatic fashion. Opening up in the NLDS against the Giants would allow for that poetic reversal of fortune that might propel the team to greater heights.

by phillyinportland on Sep 22, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually hoping for a 3 way tie, or at least a tie between St.Louis and San Francisco end of business Wednesday. Make em play extras!

I would love to see all three teams tied or the braves to have like a 1 game lead going into mondays series. I think it will do good for the Phils if those games matter for some reason.

But I’m with you on wanting the revenge on the Giants part for sure.

25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark

by Joecatz on Sep 22, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Related, Matt Gelb's column today...

The 2011 Phillie Killers

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Celebrating over 50 years of slightly more Phils wins than losses: 1961-2011

by schmenkman on Sep 22, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

That chart is just sick. So so wrong.

by Phrozen on Sep 22, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, did I just wander onto a Red Sox blog thread?

by j reed on Sep 22, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

 (Thread-wise, not write-up-wise. Write-up was good as usual).

by j reed on Sep 22, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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