Our Long National Nightmare: Phillies 9, Mets 4
by WholeCamels on Sep 25, 2011 6:36 PM EDT
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PrintThe Phillies eight game losing streak came to a halt, as the Phillies new-look lineup cranked out 19 hits, and Roy Halladay pitched six scoreless innings en route to his 19th victory in the Phillies 9-4 win over the New York Mets today at Citi Field. 99 wins people!
The Phillies scored early and often, starting things in the first with a two run homer from Hunter Pence and a sacrifice fly from Raul Ibanez. The Mets fell behind 9-0 after four innings.
With the game well in hand, Charlie Manuel pulled Roy Halladay from the game after six innings, and then watched as the bullpen made the game a little more interesting than it should have been. The Mets scored three times in the seventh off the still-struggling Antonio Bastardo, who is either still tipping his pitches or is hurt or just completely lost the ability to put hitters away. Bastardo retired Justin Turner for the first out of the inning, then promptly walked Mike Baxter and surrendered a home run to Ronnie Paulino on a gross hanging slider. Jason Pridie would triple and score on a Val Pascucci single. After Bastardo walked Jose Reyes, Vance Worley was summoned into the game, and retired the next two batters. Worley would surrender another run in the eighth after allowing a leadoff single to Nick Evans and an RBI double to Justin Turner. Worley would settle in and retire the side without allowing another run. Ryan Madson pitched a scoreless ninth despite allowing leadoff singles to Jose Reyes and Ruben Tejada.
So I hope Messrs. Halladay, Lee, Hamels, and Oswalt are ready to go deep into some playoff games. This bullpen is looking messy right now.
Lots of love for Carlos Ruiz, who collected four hits today, and Pence and Jimmy Rollins, who had three a piece. Ryan Howard struck two hits before being removed from the game once the Phillies got a huge lead. Chase Utley had an RBI single in the second for his only hit on the day.
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That’s more like it. I like the new lineup they used today and obv the output of 19 hits leaves little to complain about, it could always be worse….we could be the Eagles. lol
Or Boston fans.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Sep 25, 2011 7:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He’s never gonna be that Chaoctic Evil again. But I’ll be happy with Neutral Evil. Christ, I’ll take Lawful Evil at this point.
I will take any version that creates outs semi-reliably.
"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."
by dannijd on Sep 25, 2011 7:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In other news, John Lackey’s bedshitting has already begun, with a little help from Varitek.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
Roll with it. Maybe we can trade for him someday.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Woo-hoo!
I prefer this version of that song however: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4LgAM_J3Rk
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
I would only be interested in this post if it weren’t figurative.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This made me lol.
Might as well just hand them over.
by All ur Aces R Belong to Us on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
That actually worries me. I do not want to face the Cardinals at all (simply because we’ve done so poorly against them this year). Also because I find Tony LaRussa extremely obnoxious.
I do understand the strategy behind the bullpen matchups, but sometimes it does seem a bit excessive.
The Phils simply don’t hit Jaime Garcia and Carpenter is capable of shutting them down as well…that coupled with Pujols is why I’d want the Braves to hang on
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
Exactly. And the Phillies can (sort of) control who wins the wild card. I wonder if they’re considering simply writing off the next three?
I don’t think the Phils care who they play…and they shouldn’t
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
agreed. I think at this point it’s almost a football mentality you just concentrate on beating the team on the field, not worrying about what will happen in the next game/series because everything is so unpredictable anyway.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
That’s when the baseball god would fuck you by giving you what you want – we’d be swept by the Braves in the NLCS.
Cholly plays contenders hard out of respect for them, for the team they’re chasing/the team that’s chasing them, and for the game itself.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe a matchup against the Cardinals will be what it takes to get Ryan Howard hot in the playoffs this year.
by phillyinportland on Sep 25, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Garcia gives the Phillies fits too. And it would be only a best of 5 against a team that beat us 6 games to 3 this season…
so basically your saying that they’re a good team like every other team that makes it to the play-offs.
I’m thinking of a word…..it starts with C….and rhymes with frapshoot.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yes and no, I have issues with the "C" word
The crapshoot argument has problems. For one thing it oversimplifies things. Just because the sample doesn’t fit the scope of our metrics doesn’t make the post season a complete crapshoot. It’s a bit like putting the math before the measured. It’’s not BINGO, a true crapshoot but luck can play a significant role, it just can ’t be quantified in a statistically significant way for that many games with the current metrics – we might never have the metrics to do it.
That we lost to the Cards, 6 out of 9 times during the season would bother me if I thought the team was playing good baseball at the time which they weren’t. Plus we’re the more well rounded team.
A better analogy for chancey thing than Bingo would be… shooting crap. :)
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t having an obnoxious opponent a feature rather than a bug? I’d rather play someone I can get a proper hate on for.
by taco pal on Sep 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Kershaw gets win #21. Its gonna be a really interesting Cy vote this year, though I think Kershaw will end up winning it.
He should get it based on being a really good pitcher… not because of his winz. Didn’t think you were suggesting that, just commenting that.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was more suggesting which school of thought will prevail, the one that thinks its more important pitching in meaningful games all year, or the one that thinks pitching good for a bad team is more important.
Not to mention the traditional stats school, where Kershaw would win, vs the Saber school, where Halladay would win.
I also recently read an article about Cy Young winners, and all the ones that won on losing teams dominated in stats, which Kershaw hasn’t done.
Does anyone else think that competition should be a factor in deciding? He’s made 9 starts against the Giants and Padres this year- the two worst offensive teams in the NL. 6 of those are against the Giants who are last in runs scored by a pretty wide margin.
Not to say Kershaw isn’t a great young pitcher, but I don’t think he’s the best pitcher in the NL this year.
I’m becoming more and more accepting of this. That would actually be incredible to see such a young kid rope in such a prestigious award.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Rookie hazing picture from Hunter Pence's Twitter account (shield your eyes)
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Look, it’s “Bear Rabbi!”
And since when was Pat Burrell a rookie?
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
NTTAWWT
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
They are ballerinas.
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Thought this might help identify a few culprits. From Paul Hagen: The annual rookie hazing ritual was played out yesterday. After the game ended, the first-year players (Vance Worley, Michael Stutes, Justin DeFratus, Erik Kratz, Michael Schwimer, Joe Savery) came back to the clubhouse to find that their clothes had been removed and replaced by embarrassing costumes that they had to wear on the trip to Atlanta. Savery, for example, was dressed as an Applebee’s waitress.
by phillyinportland on Sep 26, 2011 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Is he one of the new trainers or something? He’s not on the 40 man.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Pence’s judo partner, tasked to surprise him at any moment in order to keep him in a state of perpetual cat-like readiness.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 25, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
John Lackey: 3 innings, 50 pitches, 0 swings and misses.
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Arguably one of the worst contracts this decade will see.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s so weird how similar the Yankees and the Red Sox are sometimes. For example, John Lackey = A J Burnett
I truly believe that the offseason and trade deadlines are spent trying to one-up each other. Yankees kinda got the shaft in the past offseason, but an AL East pennant is certainly some nice compensation.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Plus, I will fin it hilarious if the Red Sox fail.
This may be one of the few times every baseball fan in New York wants the Yankees to win: Yankees for obvious reasons, and the Mets because the Red Sox would likely be a bigger collapse than 2007.
The best offense money can buy: useless if you don’t have the pitching.
Good pitching beats good hitting. Always.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for that guy…he supposedly has been dealing with a pretty serious health situation with one of his kids
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
I thought it was his kid, but it might be his wife…not really sure
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
Pretty sure it’s his wife.
There was a post about this on Fangraphs or Big League Stew a couple of months ago, can’t remember which. And then a bunch of jackasses came by to post about how he’s a millionaire and should stop whining.
What the hell is wrong with people? Why does making millions of dollars suddenly turn people into non-humans?
People need to stop saying things that just make them sound like jealous, bitter fools.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Offense...? ....OFFENSE!!!!
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
Indeed. I don’t hate it like some do. In fact I rather enjoy it, cop-out ending notwithstanding.
But I used the above GIF because it’s the most over-acted “Oh dead god it’s so beautiful!” scene in a serious film of all time and the first I think of (other than Mugatu in Zoolander) when something like today’s offensive explosion is witnessed.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh i loved it...
I went with a buddy and we almost got kicked out of the theater we were laughing so hard, When they showed the ship and it looked like an atom, we lost it.
the gif is total awesomesauce. can’t rec’d it enough.
much obliged.
And yeah, it’s not Carl Sagan’s best work… but I’ll linger on TNT if I happen to scroll by it.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the few times I ever root for the Yankees and those bastards are blowing.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Somewhere basba’al satan smiles.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: but for people who pay more attention to football. How nervous should the Eagles be right now? Or would this just be written off as an early season bump in the road.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
One of the worst Coaching performances in a long time…pathetic really
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
I would agree with you here. it was like Andy Reid wanted to give more ammo for his critics so he decided to do everything he’s criticized for.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I was directing it more towards the coordinators, but yes
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
by DirtyWaters on Sep 25, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not very worried. If they lose next week to San Francisco, then it might be time to worry.
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This is a fun game, and for a Yanks-Sox game it’s going along rather quickly.
Famous Last Words’d
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is I don’t think they can adapt. Their defense is fucked in the Wide 9. And you don’t bring Jim Washburn here to get away from the Wide 9 part way into the season. So unless their Linebackers suddenly start playing like they belong on the team, which is highly unlikely then they are going to have serious problems. They have a DC who seems to not understand how to use his players effectively. But that’s what happens when you take your O-Line coach and make him the D-Line coach just because he has always wanted to coach the defense. I’ve always wanted to bang Kristen Bell but I highly doubt I’ll get the chance just because I want to.
Offensively, they are pretty screwed without Vick, which is why I wanted Kolb in the first place, but that’s just me apparently. The O-line is still a problem and now Watkins may have to play next week if DeVan isn’t ready. Maclin being hurt certainly doesn’t help either since DeSean has been MIA so far this year.
And at the end of the day, the people who have made bone head call after bone head call are still roaming the sidelines.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I was fully expecting them to struggle for the first few weeks with so many new players and coaches, so I’m not too concerned as long as Vick stays healthy.
For what it’s worth, I don’t buy into the “…if Vick stays healthy” mentality. I’m impressed by Vick’s toughness, his skills, and what appears to be a wholly sincere attempt to turn his life around and make amends for his past. But at the end of the day, he’s still Michael Vick. His career has been fairly consistent: a so-so quarterback who uses his unbelievable athletic skills to play perhaps two rungs higher on the QB ladder. As a huge Birds fan, I hope I’m wrong but I just can’t see him winning a Super Bowl. (Young and Kafka are another issue entirely, of course….)
Not worried. If we lose bad to the Niners next week, then we can start worrying.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The worry is that coming into the season, there were maybe 4 potential major holes on the team, and 3 of them have (so far) proven to be exactly as bad as one could have expected:
1) Although he’s a transcendent athlete, Vick is reckless with his health and with the ball (last year’s anomalous turnover-free stretch notwithstanding) — well, that’s obviously been an issue
2) Inexperienced/overmatched LBs and questionable safeties— this team cannot tackle. Maybe someday. But not right now.
3) questionable offensive line — some bright spots, but inconsistent at best, with a heavy pass rush and continued struggles in short yardage.
4) rookie kickers — not bad so far.
What makes that all worse is those three current weaknesses are at crucial positions; the OL has the best chance to improve, followed probably by the linebackers who are at least young and could develop. Vick is pretty adamant that he’s going to be the same guy he’s always been, which means it’s always a gamble, and right now the Eagles are losing on that gamble.
Vick reckless with his health? Yeah, staying in the pocket and taking fluke and late hits, real reckless. There is nothing he can do about that. Both of his injuries have been in the pocket.
by PhilsForever on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s pretty well documented that Vick takes more hits than he should, particularly given the fact that he has openly admitted that he refuses to learn how to slide. (I don’t buy the claim that he “can’t figure it out.” He’s one of the most gifted athletes of this century. if Pence can learn how to slide, then Vick can).
He also consistently ranks among the top 3 most sacked QBs in the NFL, despite his unbelievable elusiveness; that’s not all just bad luck. Part of the price you pay for having a scrambling QB is that they often hold the ball longer than a less mobile QB (ie- P. Manning, who never seems to get hit, despite a decade of mediocre OLs stocked with castoffs and UDFAs) because they’re trying to keep the play alive, and they take more hits than your average QB. So, sure, it’s true that these two specific injuries came on plays in the pocket, but it’s been one of the primary narratives of his career that he takes way more hits than he should.
…which is not to say it’s his fault he broke his hand. Just that coming into this season, most people reasonably worried that Vick would sustain some injuries and that those injuries could turn out to be a major issue. He’s a greater injury risk than most starting QBs in the NFL, and it’s showing right now.
Continuing your argument
Taking a ton of hits increases the probability that subsequent hits will lead to injury/wearing down.
Might as well just hand them over.
by All ur Aces R Belong to Us on Sep 26, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He could stand to get rid of the ball earlier, but that does not hide the fact that vick gets hit late a lot.
by PhilsForever on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
OT
I took the Steelers in my suicide league, so if they could win, that would be great
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
First time doing a suicide league. Thought process was to go conservative early on, and figure it out later haha. I went with NE in week 1 and GB in week 2.
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Girardi either setting up goofy George to walk off into the sunset a hero, or whiff one last time to cement his goat status this year.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
….and they walk him?
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bard got behind 3-0, so they just walked him.
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!
by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
B2B IBB’s
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean they just need an our either way.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I get that… and I know Jorge just had a huge homer earlier… but still, looking at his year, that’s more a blind-squirrel/Nut thing, no?
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I got that you got it. I agree.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No DAMMIT! I said I concur and that’s FINAL!
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the second was an unintentional intentional walk.
I guess Girardi wanted to see who the Red Sox send in before calling his pinch hitter. It’s Papelbon, so let’s see who Girardi goes to.
but he pinch runs for Posada…????
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
40 man
And Georgie’s about as well as Howard on his worst day…
when he’s wearing Jimmy’s shoes…
and having just eaten mexican food so he’s prairie-doggin’ it.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
*Goergie run’s about as well as Howard
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, so that’s Kate Smith’s “God Bless America” and “Going the Distance” from Rocky? Lay off our Kool-Aid, Nyawk…
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
If they start playing High Hopes…..
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Yankees and Red Sox played a 19 inning game. How long would it last?
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
Tuesday.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, not according to SB Nation’s clock.
Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round.
-Michael J Caboose
by TheOrangeCone on Sep 25, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and all of Bud Selig’s dreams would come true
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Christ, MLB Network & ESPN are nutting themselves over this. They’re going to ring every bit of drama out of this sweaty towel as humanly possible. Did you hear that “cut to commercial” music? It sounded like the friggin’ battle theme to Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves….
(incidentally, Michael Kamen is awesome)
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
are they showing the YES network feed. Their outtro music makes every half inning sound olympic epic.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
In ESPN’s fairness, it is baseball tonight… and I’m watching MLBN for more than 5 min for the first time….ever
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohhhhh, son of Asneeze!
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And more than a decade after a promised Robin Hood 2 we’re still waiting. What’s up with that Mel Brooks
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he’s got a little Dom Brown in im /wip’d
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That stupid lazy….I mean money grubbing……I mean drunk lazy…..I mean a very nice man and a formidable husband and father.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You keep using that word (Lazy). I do not think it means what you think it means.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
[Begin scene]
[warming up]
Cole Hamels: You are wonderful.
Cliff Lee: Thank you; I’ve worked hard to become so.
Cole Hamels: I admit it, you are better than I am.
Cliff Lee: Then why are you smiling?
Cole Hamels: Because I know something you don’t know.
Cliff Lee: And what is that?
Cole Hamels: I… am not left-handed.
[Moves his glove to his left hand and gains an advantage]
Cliff Lee: You are amazing.
Cole Hamels: I ought to be, after 6 years.
Cliff Lee: Oh, there’s something I ought to tell you.
Cole Hamels: Tell me.
Cliff Lee: I’m not left-handed either.
[Moves his glove to his left hand and regains his advantage]
Bob.
by The Dark on Sep 25, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I posted a picture of Cliff Lee as Inigo Montoya with that sentiment (he doesn’t want things to be over too quickly)… it was one of my happiest moments on the thread.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This seems like the perfect moment for a curtain call…
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So because Im a lazy Dom Brown, anyone know what the wild card standings for AL/NL look like right now?
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
You need to get some more hustle and veteran instincts
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Cory Wade is coming in?!?!?!?
The forgotten goat of the 2008 NLCS.
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OT, but I think Citi Field is nicer than Yankee Stadium. Of course, I was in field level in the outfield, but it didn’t feel like we were all smashed together. Plus Citi has a Shake Shack kiosk…
I haven’t been to either personally, but every single person I know that has says Citi Field is nicer.
Citi Field is more modern looking. Yankee stadium is modern in terms of its technical aspects, but its very “old school” feeling. Its good for some teams, like the Yankees, Sox, Baltimore, us.
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
Cubs
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
etc..
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
I went to Yankee Stadium last year for the Doc-CC game, and the game last night.
Yankee Stadium is basically a fake-old version of Nationals Park (lots of concrete). Citi Field is a lot more like CBP (which is to be expected, since the same architectural firm did both).
Citi also has more options for lounge access, even for somewhat cheap seats. And those are nice.
I enjoyed it.
It was like getting to a game where the Brooklyn Dodger’s played if the Brooklyn Dodgers were derivative, soulless whores who plastered the adverts for their sugar daddies all over ever square inch of their bodies.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I pretty much agree, the new Yankee Stadium is like watching baseball in a high end shopping mall. that and the fact it replaced the most historic sports venue in america is inexcusible.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t a fan, either. It felt like the movie set Michael Bay would have built if here were shooting a movie about the original Yankee Stadium (which – to be fair – while historic, was no great shakes itself).
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay
Thanks, Doc! I KNEW you’d be awesome today.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Its an odd feeling to root for a Yankees win
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Baseba’al is going to punish all of you for this
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, its evil vs. evil. But is one evil wins and keeps another evil from advancing, then thats the evil we root for.
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
We sometimes have to make hard choices… now I know how Harry Truman felt
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh shit, don’t bring that up again!
Quick, someone distract FuquaManuel!
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m telling you, letting Girardi take Berlin is a political mistake of historical significance!
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No we should appease him /Chamberlined
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
we’re mixing our metaphors, here…
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t save a Penny if you are going to throw it at a glass house.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, what kind of tree would you be?
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No, because you know what will happen then?
We’ll breeze through the NLDS and CS in a walk, then get swept by the Rays in the WS.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats completely different
I’m not rooting for the Rays to make the playoffs because they are the easier opponent or that the Sox are a tougher opponent, but because I just naturally love the Rays and hate the Sox.
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
Can someone remember to keep Cthulhu in his cage… please?
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m trying man, but rooting for the Yankees or saying you love the Rays or speculating on your preferred match-ups for events that aren’t yet guaranteed….
That shit’s like saying Beetlejuice’s name three times….
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does liking the Rays release Cthulhu? Am I not allowed to like players on other teams, or like other teams to a certain degree? I also root for the Orioles, D-backs, and Angles except when they play the Phillies, does Cthulhu have a problem with them too?
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
Mint-Berry Crunch!
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, IDGAF
Team Kafka.
"When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" - Cave Johnson
I was just about to say this.
I’m remaining actively disinterested.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
For this to affect us, some good things will have had to happen along the way. I’ll take my chances.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Says the Eagles fan.
;-p
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for twisting the knife that was today.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Very sad day… but Boston’s misery will make me happy. Let’s make it a hat trick!
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, it sucked. Don’t get me wrong.
I just meant, kicking the kharma can down the road for a later day hasn’t exactly paid dividends for the birds….
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That comma’s just sitting there… mocking me.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That Hamels start on Wednesday was probably based on his pitching Friday befrore it got rained out. Now that he has pitched his normal game on Saturday that would leave him only three days rest before coming back on Wednesday. Doesn’t mean he couldn’t do it, but I would think a bullpen game is more likely.
by phillyinportland on Sep 25, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw on CSN tonight that Hamels will not start Wed so they can line him up for Game 3. Bullpen is where he will be.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Hamels would still line up for game 3 if he started Wednesday. They aren’t starting him because they don’t want him to start on 3 days rest. That’s all.
25.8/106 "Winter is coming" -Eddard Stark
Charlie made noises about bringing him in in the middle innings to get a win
I felt like I thought it hit me - Chase Utley
I saw something along those lines on the MLB.com site, Todd Zolecki I think. So, they are bringing up the possibility of Hamels’ still getting his 15th win. It’s just a number but somebody seems to think it would be a big deal to have three pitchers with that many wins.
by phillyinportland on Sep 26, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
MOAR Baseball
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh, this shit's never gonna end.
And I’m going to stab my ears with a fork if I have to listen to that stupid Sorcerer’s Apprentice Kitchen Utensil commercial one more time.
Later, Phighters.
Nice win, today. Have a good one.
Don’t tempt Baseba’al while I’m gone.
by Chutley's Impressed by Mac's Speed on Sep 25, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t remember that as one of the stations….
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even know where to begin.
Let’s play Wacky Wednesday Sunday Night edition: how many things are wrong with this picture?
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news, this Sunday Night football game is magnificently boring.
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
probably helps the yankees at this point.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Troy Pol with the recovered fumble for a touchdown. Thank god. Can’t believe I had to sweat out the Curtis Painter led Colts.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, IDK. I can never root for the Steelers unless they are playing the Cowboys.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Oh I very much dislike the Steelers too. If I had didn’t have them in this one and done league I would be all colts.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My Rank order for hate is:
Dallas, Giants, Steelers, Pats.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually hate both these teams. So I’m a winner either way :)
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I would actually probably make that the same with special mentions of the Bears and Jets
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah… Eli is my least favorite player though.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It used to be Tony Romo, but now he’s just kind of pathetic.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
There are so many loathesome Giants. Rolle today and all his chirping and BS on the sidelines.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Even the PUNTER was tweeting shit before the game. I like Justin Tuck and maybe Ahmad Bradshaw on that team. But that’s it.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of the Eagles were in on the s-talking, to be fair—but considering the Giants hadn’t beaten the Eagles in over 2 years, I mean STFU!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I actually think Vick had a point about the refs. Mind you, that’s not why the Eagles lost and it’s certainly no excuse and he does hold onto the ball too long; BUT, there does seem to be a stigma against running QB’s, as if being some statue in the pocket should give you special treatment.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Do they have the same punter they did last year? because he caught a lot of shit for that game.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
a stigma of them always getting the referee calls, fans who have a sense of entitlement that could give Yankee fans a run for their money, their quarterback rapes people, widely known ped use before and after it was banned, I could go on.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My issue has always been with the fans. Ultimately, other than Ben R., I respect the team and organization. I know too many Steelers fans (who aren’t from Pitt, have never lived in Pitt BTW) who are just insufferable.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
do you have to
Live in or be from a town to cheer for its team? By that rationale, people from Norristown should stop cheering for the Iggles.
Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."
by RememberthePhitans on Sep 25, 2011 11:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, you don’t. But if you are going to be insufferable and constantly talk smack, I have a hard time listening to it from someone who’s never even been to that city, especially when these people that I know only seem to partially root for them as a contrarian view.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Yeah, I don’t think living outside the town causes insufferability, but there’s some correlation there (when the team has historically been successful). Not an absolute correlation though.
I’m assuming this is more about where you grew up (I will sometimes also give a reprieve if the person’s Dad is from the location). I grew up in Philly, but not live outside of it… so if you fit that category I think you’re cool. Also… the phillies have been so bad for so long I think you could have lived your whole life in Alaska and as long as you were a fan before 2007 you’d be ok.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me put it this way: I cried in 1993.
My dad grew up in Quakertown—his dad lived there until he died, and I spent many summers there, visiting and such. Probably went to fifty games at the Vee.
Roethlisberger is more or less a contemptible human being and a maddening QB to play against, and their franchise just wins too much. It’s not so much Eagles-related though.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like their coach Mike Tomlin… this will come off as racist but to me he looks like Omar Eps
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is that racist? I’ve been saying that for years. Tomlin is hot.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Although I think he does look a bit like Omar Eps, saying that two black guys look similar can fall under the heading of “All black people look alike”.
by Cole_Hamels_Can on Sep 25, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh sure. Hines Ward’s good. Troy Pol is out of this world and seems like a good guy.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Pa Llama Lou.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se8ABHcq8g4
Why look'st thou so?' -"With my crossbow
I shot the Albatross."
by RememberthePhitans on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What have I done?
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on—look at the bright side—if the Steelers lose to the Colts, the Eagles losing to the Giants suddenly doesn’t look so bad.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Bah, they are going to win. Still, Steelers got issues, man.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Exhales.
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, you really shouldn’t have to “survive” the Colts.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Next week, we survive a Tuesday stroll around the block.
Sometimes I make a good comment. Sometimes I make a bad one. Really it's all a crapshoot.
by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
THEY ALMOST LOST OK
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Stat rule that annoys me: a player gets credited with a sacrifice when he moves the runner from second to third with one out.
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
To the 14th we go
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
And against Scott Proctor. If there was one guy who was gonna give up the tie…
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by Eaglesadvocate on Sep 25, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
he has to be a double agent
it’s the only possible explanation for continuing to perform like that yet drawing a salary.
So the Sox keep their one game lead, and the Phillies’ best record in baseball magic # is now down to two.
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by Veni Vidi Vici on Sep 25, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
That Oakheart post above this thread…..what the fuck.
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Is “what the fuck” your contest submission?
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by DirtyWaters on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well played, DW. I had not even thought of that.
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Let's hope for a one-game playoff between Braves and Cardinals...
That goes 21 innings, with the Braves winning.
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." Groucho Marx
My only concern is going into the playoffs with some momentum, which means taking two out of three from the Braves with some damn good baseball being played.
as long as they play well…i.e. solid ABs, sharp fielding, pitch execution, etc…I could care less if they win or lose. The starters are probably only going to play 5-6 innings so if Michael Schwimmer gives up a game winning HR to Dan Uggla, I won’t be getting my panties in a bunch.
Remember when Chase Utley was good at baseball
I am surprised more people don’t care about the 102 wins. To us older Philadelphians, this is huge, the all-time Phillies record. Also, the teams that have won 100 games are more special than those that won World Series, since every team except the little bears has won a World Series. Bugs me that our players keep yammering about “the ring” when the 100 wins is such a tremendous accomplishment and they don’t seem to care about it.
I felt like I thought it hit me - Chase Utley
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