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SB Nation has issued a formal statement on SOPA, in light of today's online "blackout" protests. Read about it here.

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SOPA would pretty much ruin SBN

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by philiafan14364 on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

…not to mention the rest of the Internet.


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#StopSOPA

by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

SOPA is one of the sillier acronyms for a piece of legislation ever.

by taco pal on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

At least they didn’t start with the acronym and work backwards a la the USA PATRIOT act.

Also, fixed:

SOPA is one of the sillier acronyms fucking dumbest for a pieces of legislation ever.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that was the Senate version “PROTECT IP”

by Airedale260 on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re both about equally bad.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

SOPA is awful, it puts SB Nation and The Good Phight at risk in a bunch of ways.

That said, I really wish people would actually, you know, pay for stuff instead of using torrent sites.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

The White House has already said SOPA would be DOA, so why such a fuss?

by Boundforbeach on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Because these are backed by big money corporations and will most certainly rear their ugly head again come election time.

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by doubleh on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Have to make a public example out of it, or else it’ll definitely be back if Romney becomes President. Though it might be back anyway.

by taco pal on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not a one-issue voter, and I’d be unlikely to vote for Romney anyway, but if he supports this, I definitely won’t.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It will definitely be back anyway. As long as there are big companies producing content, they will always be afraid of how easy it is to share things on the Internet.

by Steve J on Jan 19, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

SOPA/PIPA

I’m in the mood for Mexican food now.

by Cormican on Jan 18, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

PIPPA

I’d hit that…

"He's a bum...this one stinks...this jerk can't play."-- A father teaching his daughter the Phillies lineup from the program roster, the Vet, c.1998

by MikeEinNC on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Middleton? Oh, in a heartbeat.

by Airedale260 on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. Honestly, there has been way too much of a swing towards torrent sites, I think. but yeah, the MPAA and RIAA fighting to preserve a dead model is really sad.

This is one of those things neither party has any real reason to support, at least on principle.

by Airedale260 on Jan 18, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wish people would actually, you know, make stuff available for sale that I want to buy. I’ll admit to having used torrents, but it’s primarily been to find ten to twenty year old books whose publishers are out of business and who current rights are held by corporations who have expressed no interest in republishing the works in question. If a good is not available on the free and open market, alternative channels will be sought. Economics is not rocket science.

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 18, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point. Or what about out of print records or really underground stuff. There’s alot of old punk and metal records that are out of print that you’ll never find on iTunes.

by j reed on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

E-Bay and Craigslist. You wouldn’t believe the out-of-print stuff I’ve found there.

by Phrozen on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

No difference to the artist either way though, since they don’t make cash on either transaction.

I’ve mostly used torrents for stuff I already had and either wore out and/or had in an obsolete format (all of my Overkill/Nuclear Assault/Possessed/Uniform Choice/etc. stuff I bought on tape in the late 80’s / early 90’s before CDs took over). I also used them for a few years for new releases when I was doing album reviews for a metal website (I always went and bought the good ones).

by Cormican on Jan 19, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Most artists don’t make a whole lot even on the new sales. That said, each non-buy due to pirating (which doesn’t equal the number of pirated downloads, and may actually be a negative number if the pirating encourages more purchases than it discourages) is still lost income for the artist. It just happens to be far more lost income for the RIAA’s member companies.

In sarcasm mode here for a minute, but I’m just waiting for these companies to go after the biggest filesharers of all – libraries.

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 19, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

well, actually, libraries are a good point, sarcasm or not, as are used markets… because, in fact, “each non-buy due to pirating” cannot necessarily be said to be lost income… it could be lost income, or it could be like that tape someone made you of that band you liked, after which you got obsessed and bought everything they did, or it could be a sale you never would have had in the first place

by yolacrary on Jan 20, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

it could be like that tape someone made you of that band you liked, after which you got obsessed and bought everything they did, or it could be a sale you never would have had in the first place

That’s how it works in punk rock. Or it least it did.

by j reed on Jan 26, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, and metal, and any number of scenes

by yolacrary on Jan 26, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Uniform Choice? I didn’t take you for an SE HC kinda guy. I was more partial to Verbal Assualt and Life Sentence.

by j reed on Jan 26, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

SST or whoever bought the label’s rights has to stop being pricks and tracking down every decent Black Flag upload on youtube. It falls into the classic category. Besides after what metalcore has done to song writing it would hurt for these kids to stumble on a Black Flag song or two.

by j reed on Jan 26, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

*It’ wouldn’t hurt.

by j reed on Jan 26, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

$1.29 per song on iTunes? Sorry not happening.

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by Djax10 on Jan 18, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Then don’t listen. And don’t illegally download. This isn’t a loaf of bread to feed your starving family.

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by WholeCamels on Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Grooveshark’s where it’s at. Free music on my computer, and for $8 a month I get it on my phone. It’s great.

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Jan 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but is it a file sharing deal because that will bring you puter to a crawl eventually.

by j reed on Jan 18, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Most songs on iTunes are $0.99. Only shitty modern day pop music singles are more. May I suggest avoiding that heap of garbage? It will save you $0.30 per song.

I consider myself a pretty frugal person, but I have no problem spending money for songs I like and listening to them over and over again. Hell, you can buy select games sports games for $1.99, including every Phillies game from the 2008 Playoffs. It’s totally legal. And totally awesome.

If money is that tight with you, there are numerous ways to legally listen to music you like for free.

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by Justin F. on Jan 18, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

While there are more than stupid pop songs at $1.29, I totally agree with you as to spending money for the songs I love and the videos I want to watch. By paying for them, I insure that music and television keeps getting made- something that will not happen if people continue to steal it.

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by dannijd on Jan 18, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Pandora a shot, then. Or stick to the radio. Maybe ask your dad for his old 8-track tapes.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Pandora! Through it I have discovered some songs that I never would have found otherwise.

"Valdez can pitch, Lee can hit... and pigs can fly."

by dannijd on Jan 18, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There are a ton of site where you can legally listen to music free

Theres always Pandora or Slacker Radio if you want a radio station.

Or as TheOrangeCone mentions you can use Grooveshark (which I recommend) or Spotify if you want to tailor playlists of specific songs to your liking.

by Chewy59 on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Penny Arcade has one of the better arguments against piracy.

by ThinMountainAir on Jan 18, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazon mp3s are mostly .99. Google is at .69 for a lot. Cheaper by the album, sometimes greatly cheaper.

I’m locked in with amazon, and I get mp3s, not whatever iTunes uses. And I play them on my rio pmp 300.

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by RememberthePhitans on Jan 18, 2012 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

when I download rap mixtapes, which are intended to be free, would that be against this stupid law too?

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by Djax10 on Jan 18, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Which stupid law are you talking about now?

by taco pal on Jan 18, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It would depend if they are copyrighted works or not, but assuming they are, it’s already against the law to download copyrighted stuff. SOPA won’t change that.

If they’re not copyrighted, then download ‘till your heart’s content.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The point isn’t that any individual act would be against the law – the point is that the places where you might access those things that might be illegal wouldn’t exist anymore.

These are pieces of legislation designed to prevent sharing entirely, not track down illegal sharers.

by Steve J on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically, they would continue to exist, they would just be blocked from access.

by Cormican on Jan 19, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

How long does something that’s blocked from access continue to exist?

If a tree falls on the internet, but the DNS won’t allow you to see treefalling.com, will they stay in business?

by Steve J on Jan 19, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sadly, yes, because they’ll redirect through treesfallnow.net, fallingtree.us and sexytreeaction.xxx. Ultimately those will be silenced, but there are always new servers to use.

Anyone who thinks these bills will actually stop piracy is delusional.

by Phrozen on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

In other news...

Cole apparently won’t take Jered Weaver money, ie, no hometown discount. Let the posturing commence. link

by Boundforbeach on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Might want to put this in the Hamels post so it doesn’t get overlooked. Or a FanShot.

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by WholeCamels on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry… give me a 15 yard penalty for illegal trying to jack a thread. Won’t happen again.

by Boundforbeach on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The worst part of this—and other anti-piracy bills—is the vagueness of the language. It allows for intentional misintepretation and abuse of the law it intends to create. This is certainly not in the best interests of a “free” country.

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by doubleh on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

This is the result of it being written by a room full of septuagenarians who only use computers to check e-mails and look at pictures of their Grandkids.

by Cormican on Jan 18, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, and media company lobbyists

by taco pal on Jan 18, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn lobbyists ruin everything.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No SOPA, radio!

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hahahaha I used to coach a kid who loved to tell that joke. He had one freshman on the team going for most of the season before he finally figured out what was going on.

by Chewy59 on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

But somebody's gotta stop the titties.

by j reed on Jan 18, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I know ’em when I see ’em.

by Phrozen on Jan 18, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

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