2012 MLB.com Prospect Watch
highlights:
25. Travis d'Arnaud
44. Jonathan Singleton
54. Trevor May
57. Anthony Gose
61. Jarred Cosart
78. Jesse Biddle (9th LHP)
80. Brody Colvin
Cesar Hernandez misses the top 100, but is number 5 on the second baseman list.
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To be eligible for a list, a player must have rookie eligibility. To qualify for rookie status, a player must not have exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues, or accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the 25-player limit period, excluding time on the disabled list or in military service.
184 AB, 56 G in 2011. Definitely over the AB limit. Not sure how many service days or how many were in the 25-player limit period, but he’s probably close on that too.
by topherstarr on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
He’s 9th on the catcher list. The 8th catcher, Ryan Lavarnway of the Red Sox, is #93.
by topherstarr on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
and Valle is still younger then most of these guys anyway. Same reason Biddle and Singelton are still kinda low despite being dominant.
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Uhhhhhh, did you catch Singleton’s line once he went to a more neutral league?
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
The Astros ballpark that he hit in was the most hitter friendly park in the entire minor leagues, if I recall correctly.
by philsandthrills on Jan 27, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
His MLB equivalency (Lancaster A+ to MLB Neutral) was .214/.266/.312. For comparison, Valle’s equivalency (Clearwater A+ to MLB Neutral) was .229/.251/.305.
Bob.
From the mirror at Drive Line Baseball, although I didn’t realize it wasn’t updated, so those are based on the 2005-2010 numbers. It should still be roughly relevant, since Clear Channel Stadium opened in 1994 and Bright House field in 2004, and (to the best of my knowledge) neither has been remodeled.
Bob.
I think Spangenberg is the only Second Baseman to make the top 100, so I doubt Hernandez was even close. The Second Baseman pipeline is really, really thin right now.
Really good at the top with Profar and Machado, then it kind of drops off a cliff.
Weirdly for everyone saying how bad 3rd looks in the pros, the top 10 is down right littered with Third Basemen.
Interesting. So if the pipeline is thin at both positions, then maybe Hernandez is a valuable prospect after all. If there’s going to be a positional shortage, then mediocre (by historical standards) 2B might be worth more in a few years than they otherwise would be.
I’ll be curious to see how many of the 3B prospects end up shifting to 2B later, but you’re right HErnandez could still have value then.
Hmmm
Having 3 of the top 100 prospects in baseball (4 if you include Brown) after trading away a lot of great young players…that’s not so shabby.
yeah
Three of the top 100, plus two of the four or five best pitchers in baseball plus a 3-5 WAR right fielder.
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by WholeCamels on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I really hope the fans and team start to back Dom more, because if he doesn’t pan out, we are pretty fucked on offense.
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I don’t agree with this.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Jan 27, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
That was kinda going through my mind as well.
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by h2o_34_35_44 on Jan 27, 2012 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
the 4 EB is the weird part really, and I put that on being a newer guy in the league, who’s really fast, playing weaker outfielders.
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Speed. Pure, pure speed. If he can put the ball down the line into the corner, he’s got a fair shot at a triple. The FSL parks are also large – Bright House Field is slightly bigger than CBP (329-408-330 to 329-401-330). If Hernandez can develop any power, he’ll get a fair number of doubles and triples. The 4 home runs was what surprised me, because he didn’t seem to have much power when I saw him play.
Bob.
I’m trying to look them up now. One was June 6th, against Dunedin, at Clearwater. His last one was July 26th, against Bradenton, also in Clearwater. He did hit an inside the park home run on June 16th at Dunedin, which was noted as being his third of the year. I can’t find the last home run, but he had two over the wall and one inside the park. Dunedin’s a respectably sized park – 333-380-400-363-336.
Bob.
Taco Pal got me thinking about holes in player development
A breakdown of the top 100:
First Base: 3
Second Base: 1
Third Base: 8
Catcher: 8
Short Stop: 11
Outfield: 21
Left Handed Pitchers: 12
Right Handed Pitchers: 36
This makes both 1st and 2nd look awful. From my quick perusal a decent number of the OFs are toolsy guys and not the type of guys I would expect teams to shift to first. A few of the 3B prospects could be shifted (Rendon if his arm never returns to pre-injury form), and a few of the SS could shift to the other side of the bag.
Awesome!
We have two guys in the top 50!
Oh wait…..
Yeah I’m sure the Yankees fans are crying because they traded Montero too. Be grateful for what we got for them.
These trades need to be evaluated case by case, not with sweeping blanket statements. The Lee trade was good. The Halladay trade was not – not because of value, but because the Phillies should have been able to exploit their negotiating position more than they did. The Oswalt trade was fine. The Pence trade was an overpay. The Montero trade was fair because of how young Pineda is.
Sorry, no. I happen to like this blog, and if I see it littered with a bunch of illogical, dishonest, and/or assholish comments, I’m going to reply. If that doesn’t suit you, well, it isn’t my job to make you happy.
The Halladay trade was not – not because of value, but because the Phillies should have been able to exploit their negotiating position more than they did.
Just curious, do you evaluate the Halladay extension with the trade or in isolation? In other words, did the fact that the Phillies could save so much money by trading for Halladay and extending him rather than paying full price on the FA market weaken their position?
I wouldn’t say it weakened their position per se, but it offered them more value, which basically amounts to the same thing. So yeah, that’s a fair point. I just think the key thing here is that Toronto really had nowhere else to go with Halladay – it was either trade Halladay to the Phillies or get stuck with a lot less. The only leverage they had was their threat to eat the loss if the Phillies didn’t give them what they wanted. But that was a bluff that should have been called.
It makes me wonder how close they really were to trading for Halladay when they got Lee the first time. I wouldn’t necessarily want a re-do of any of it, but the first Lee trade is a wrinkle in the “Ruben always gets his man” meme. Except it isn’t, because he got his man anyway. It’s almost more interesting as a character analysis of Amaro than as a transaction analysis.
Anyhow, he probably could have gotten better value in both of the December trades if he had been a little more patient, which definitely fits his MO. As far as I know, nobody except Seattle even knew Lee was available.
Huh
He looks like he had a good year at AAA: .314/.374/.418, 47 BB and 56 SO in 545 PA. What’s up with that?
Yeah, from looking at his fielding stats, they seem to have tried him all over the diamond the last 2 years. Still, he’s 23, and would probably have a good future as a utility player. Like a less glove, more bat Valdez.
I think I’d rather have Cardenas than Wigginton. less power, but I’d be willing to bet Cardenas would be better at just about everything else.
by perfectdepth on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
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