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Phillies Possibilities for 2013-2014: Contract Analysis

[Note by FuquaManuel, 01/03/12 2:00 PM EST: Interesting read. Frontpaged.]

As we approach the end of the free agent period (apologies to Ryan Madson and Prince Fielder), it seems like a good time to take a glance at the Phillies' future contract obligations. We all know that a few of the bigger contracts are guaranteed, but how much room do the Phillies really have for the 2013 and 2014 season?

In the chart below, I’ve placed all the guaranteed contracts for the 2013 season, and thrown in a few of the guys that are relatively certain to be on the team.

Offense Salary(MM) Pitching Salary(MM)
Howard 20 Halladay 20
Utley 15 Lee 25
Rollins 11 Worley 0.49
Polanco 5.5 Papelbon 13
Ruiz 5 Bastardo 1.5
Mayberry 0.49 De Fratus 0.49
Brown 0.49 Aumont 0.49
Galvis 0.49 Stutes 0.49
Martinez 0.49 Herndon 1
Nix 1.35 Schwimer 0.49
Total 59.81 Total 62.95

Star-divide

On the offensive side, Howard, Utley, Rollins, and Nix are guaranteed, and Ruiz is almost certain to have his 5MM team option picked up. Polanco has a mutual option at 5.5M and a buyout of 1MM, which seems like good value but is a bit less certain at this point. If he is bought out, there will be little available help on the FA market, except for Kevin Youkilis (no no no no no no) and David Wright. Honestly, 3B is so thin right now that picking up the option for 4.5MM more seems like the best option by far, unless Polanco gets injured.

The outfield situation is far less certain, however. At least three out of group of Mayberry, Brown, Pence, and Victorino will be manning the outfield for the Phillies in 2013. It could possibly be all four if Pence and Victorino are extended, especially if Mayberry doesn’t match his 2011 performance or Brown fails to improve significantly, and in that case Brown and Mayberry could platoon in LF. Still, it’s highly variable at this point and either of Victorino or Pence could be gone in 2013. As such, I think slotting about 15MM for the 2013 for either a Victorino or Pence extension seems fair.

As for pitching, the Phillies will need two more starters for 2013, as Blanton will be gone and Kendrick will almost certainly be too expensive. A Hamels extension seems like the best route, and 20MM for 2013 is what I would expect. If Hamels isn’t extended, which really seems like an obvious choice here, then other options include grabbing Ervin Santana or Zack Greinke. Santana has a $13MM team option, but with the trio of Haren, Wilson, and Weaver, it’s possible that he’ll be let go. Greinke remains a solid option, but he’ll be fairly expensive as well. Regardless, between Hamels or one of the top free agents, the Phillies will invest around 15-20MM in 2013 on a SP. For the 5th starter, the possibilities are either to look to the minor leagues with either of Austin Hyatt or J.C. Ramirez or to sign a mediocre FA to a 1-yr deal. Signing a longer deal than that seems unwise, given that by 2014 the Clearwater trio will be age appropriate to advance to the majors. Regardless, the fifth starter will be paid either league minimum or a couple million at most.

Finally, the pen looks relatively set and will require some tough decisions. Papelbon and Bastardo will be the 8th/9th inning guys. Beyond that, the Pig Pen will likely hold down the middle relief. Aumont and De Fratus are pretty much guaranteed. Then between Stutes, Herndon, and Schwimer, there's room for two. Herndon won’t be at the league minimum, but Schwimer is less likely to stick than either of the others, so he may be a trade piece. If the Phillies forego a 2nd LOOGY, then Schwimer could stick around, but a 7-man pen with 6 righties seems excessive, especially with this rotation.

Other than that, it’s likely that Ty Wigginton and Jose Contreras will be bought out of their contracts for $500,000 each. The pen will be too full for the Big Truck, if he’s even healthy, and Wigginton at 4MM seems excessive.

Overall, the Phillies have about 123MM set in stone for the 2013 season, as long as Polanco returns. Slotting in another outfielder and starting pitcher will take anywhere from 25-35MM. Assuming another 4-5MM to fill in the bench and fifth starter position, this leaves the Phillies between 150-160MM total. With the luxury cap extending to 189MM in 2013, this leaves the team will a lot of room. Due to the new CBA, there’s little freedom to spend in the draft. International signings are an option, but investing in 16-year olds is always a risk. To me, the Phillies would be best suited to extend a few players and front-load their contracts for the 2013 season. They have the freedom to resign both Pence and Victorino. If they choose to let Polanco go, they’ll be able to pay for any of the FA 3B they want. Otherwise, the Phillies could position themselves to pay extra to a few players in 2013 to have more freedom later on. Utley could be extended and have his contract pay him say, 20MM in 2013 and then 13MM for 2014-2015. A similar approach could be done for Halladay, but his contract runs through 2014 and is less urgent. Regardless of what they choose to do, they’ll have money to spare in 2013.

Next up are the 2014 season contract obligations.

Offense Salary(MM) Pitching Salary(MM)
Howard 20 Halladay 20
Rollins 11 Lee 25
Mayberry 1.5 Worley 2.5
Brown 1.5 Papelbon 13
Galvis 0.49 Bastardo 2.5
Martinez 1 De Fratus 0.49


Aumont 0.49


Stutes 1.5


Herndon 2


Schwimer 0.49
Total 40.49 Total 67.97

The offense is very much in flux for the 2014 season. Only first base and shortstop are guaranteed on the infield, and only Brown and Mayberry remain in the outfield. Third base is a complete unknown at this point. The Phillies 2011 draft class was infield heavy, and if Harold Martinez, Mitchell Walding or Tyler Greene set the world on fire at third base they could slot in here. Far more likely is a free agent, either one grabbed in 2013 to replace Polanco or a 2014 free agent. Of the 2014 group, Ryan Zimmerman looks like the biggest star by far, but the Nationals will certainly try to keep him and may lock him up before he reaches the market. The Phillies may just be forced to sign a mediocre player to a short deal if no good option reaches the market. Given this, it may honestly be wise to overspend on any of the 2013 FA class at 3B, as it looks like third base will remain thin for a few years.

For second base, Utley seems like an obvious extension candidate, health allowing. As with third base, the 2011 draft class is unlikely to be ready at this point. Guys like Harold Garcia may be around, but the drop down from Utley to a mediocre second baseman is too steep to be worth it. Ian Kinsler will be available for the 2014 season, but will be 31. Several other second basemen could conceivably be on the market, such as Ben Zobrist (really unlikely), Brandon Phillips, or Howie Kendrick. However, none of these options are guaranteed to be available, and if not, Utley is the best option.

At catcher, Carlos Ruiz will be 35 and could sign for a couple more years at 5-6MM. Sebastian Valle might be ready at this point, in which case Ruiz would likely be retained for a year at most. Other positions will require a good deal of money to fill, so keeping a cheaper option at catcher is preferable, and a combination of Ruiz and Valle fits the bill.

As for the outfield, it depends on the Phillies actions in the 2013 season. If both Victorino and Pence are back, the outfield will be set. If not, Jacoby Ellsbury will be the best free agent available. He’ll be 30, and had a career year in 2011, so he’s a good, but not exceptional option. With this in mind, it seems like the Phillies would be best off extending both Victorino and Pence until 2016 or so at around 14MM a year each. Both will be good bets to play at a high level, and if both Brown and Mayberry play well then one of them could be a trade piece or all four could play about 120 games each to keep the group well-rested and healthy. If either Brown or Mayberry falter, then they’d slot in as a 4th OF.

Looking at pitching, it bears a lot of similarities to the 2013 situation. Lee, Halladay, and Worley are all locks (Halladay has a team option at 20MM). Hamels or a 2013 FA slots in as the 3rd starter for 15-20MM. As for the 5th starter, by this point any of Trevor May, Brody Colvin, or Julio Rodriguez could be ready to start. In the worst case scenario, none of the three pans out and then a lower-end FA will be slotted in for cheap.

The bullpen will be nearly identical to the 2013 edition. Papelbon and Bastardo will return, and some combination of De Fratus, Aumont, Stutes, Herndon, and Schwimer will cover middle relief. By this point, another relief prospect may be ready as well, and would replace one of the more expensive players like Herndon, who would be on his 2nd arbitration. Another LOOGY would be preferable, and could come from the minors as well.

Overall, the 2014 Phillies team is locked in for 108MM. Resolving the OF will cost about 25-30MM, second base will take another 15MM, catcher another 6MM, and a starting pitcher will slot in at 15-20MM. Overall, this leaves the Phillies approaching 180MM with around 10MM to fill in the bench and fifth starter slots if minor league options aren’t available. This is definitely precarious, especially with several positions filled with players in their mid-30’s. Between Utley, Howard, Ruiz, Victorino, and Rollins, injuries will be a near-certainty. It’ll take some good development by the 2011 draft class to fill in the gap cheaply and be able to step in if injuries take out several players.

Given the disparity between the financial freedom of the 2013 Phillies and the 2014 Phillies, the best option for this team going forward is to extend players like Utley, Victorino, Pence and frontload their contracts, or to sign 2013 FA’s and do the same. Third base is certainly a question going forward, and by 2014 it will have to be a free agent or a prospect. The Phillies won’t be in danger of hitting the luxury cap and as long as they don’t shoot themselves in the foot and massively overpay a player, they’ll be able to field very good teams in both 2013 and 2014.

Here are my final projected rosters with what I think are the best overall options.

2013

Offense Salary(MM) Pitching Salary(MM)
Howard 20 Halladay 20
Utley 20 Lee 25
Rollins 11 Worley 0.49
Polanco 5.5 Papelbon 13
Ruiz 5 Bastardo 1.5
Mayberry 0.49 De Fratus 0.49
Brown 0.49 Aumont 0.49
Galvis 0.49 Stutes 0.49
Martinez 0.49 Herndon 1
Nix 1.35 Schwimer 0.49
Pence 15 Hamels 20
Victorino 15 5th Starter 2
Backup catcher 2
Total 96.81 Total 84.95

Total Budget around $182,000,000

2014

Offense Salary(MM) Pitching Salary(MM)
Howard 25 Halladay 20
Rollins 11 Lee 25
Mayberry 1.5 Worley 2.5
Brown 1.5 Papelbon 13
Galvis 0.49 Bastardo 2.5
Martinez 1 De Fratus 0.49
Pence 13 Aumont 0.49
Victorino 13 Stutes 1.5
Ruiz 6 Herndon/LOOGY 2.5
Valle 0.49 Schwimer/LOOGY 0.49
Back-loaded 3B 8 Hamels 20
Utley 13 May/J-Rod/Colvin 0.49
Infielder 0.49

Total 94.47 Total 88.96

Total Budget around $184,000,000

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help from the minors

Trevor May, Jon Pettibone, Julio Rodriguez, and Brody Colvin all will be at AA this year. May for one should absolutely be ready by 2014, and could see time in 2013, a la Worley this past year. Colvin has the highest upside, and if he gets back on track could move very quickly.

Position-player wise, not a ton of options. If Tyson Gillies gets healthy his prospect shine could come back in a hurry, but it would be unwise to count on that. Valle should be the backup catcher at worst by 2014. Otherwise, there’s nobody within two years of the majors who projects as a first-tier starter. Jiwan James is a backup CF at this point.

by Governator on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I pretty much went with projections that don’t rely on much from the prospects. A 3B would be huge but is very unlikely. By 2015 we’ll likely have a SS to replace Rollins, but that doesn’t affect 2013 or 2014 much. Larry Greene Jr. could conceivably be in the OF by late 2014. And pitching wise, other than a couple of relievers, one of May, Pettibone, J-Rod, and Colvin will slot in the 5th spot in 2014 and hopefully will take up 2-3 slots in the 2015 rotation.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Galvis is a good bet to break camp in 2013 as the primary backup infielder, so by the time 2015 rolls around we should have a pretty good idea of what kind of major leaguer he will be.

by Governator on Jan 3, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, that’s where I slotted him.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't be surprised

To hear the “move Utley or Rollins to 3B” rumblings every time a decent 2B or SS is a rumored trade target either.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 3, 2012 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

Good article. Stole a little of my thunder for some stuff I’ve been thinking of writing (boo), but that’s ok.

I could see Kendrick being the 5th starter in ‘13 if (1) he pitches well in ’12, (2) the FO decides to take it slow with May & co. (assuming they don’t trade them all in July), and (3) Hyatt and Ramirez have bad years in AAA. The odds of all three things happening aren’t big, but they aren’t tiny either.

Speaking of point 2, pondering Ed Wade lately has gotten me wondering whether taking it slow with prospects is the best way to go. Wade has finally been getting a little bit of recognition lately for the fact that most of the key pieces of the 2008 team were drafted during his tenure. But if you look closely at his record, the sheer number of future major leaguers that Wade drafted or signed wasn’t that large, nor did he have an unusually high number of BA Top 100 prospects on his watch. Instead, where he succeeded was that a large percentage of the best prospects he did have (a) were retained and (b) maximized their potential.

Wade got some criticism when he was GM for taking a very conservative, step-by-step approach to promoting prospects – he even gets some criticism for that to this day (on not promoting Utley or Howard to the majors “fast enough”). And when Gillick took over and the Phillies started taking a much more aggressive approach to promotion, he got some praise for that. But maybe Wade’s conservative approach was one of the reasons why he had such success in turning his prospects into major league stars. Gillick’s approach might have raised the ranking of the farm system, but not its ultimate level of success.

by taco pal on Jan 3, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Pence is controlled through 2013 btw

by Nikk.m on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Whoops. Actually, I don’t think that changes my projections all that much. It does give the Phillies an incentive to buyout Pence’s remaining arbitration years to be able to use 2012 and 2013 to buffer his 2014 salary.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

potential 2014 salary, that is.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not sure he lets us buy out his first free agent year for cheap though. Why should he?

by Nikk.m on Jan 3, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he’d be getting extra money in 2012 and basically the same overall. It’d probably require an extension beyond 2014, however, at least until 2015.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

A 3 year contract makes Pence a FA at the last half of his peak years, meaning he can get a big pay day then, plus there’s an element of security, knowing that you’ll be playing in one place (most likely) and you’ll be making X dollars. Some guys are happier with that, than squeezing every possible penny out of their value, I’m sure.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Moreso...

Why would we want to?

Granted, he’s not going to take a 1 year deal when he hits free agency, but I’m not sure locking him up at say, 12-14mm for 2014 is wise money spent.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re out of your mind and are completely undervaluing him.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/extension-candidate-hunter-pence.html

While that article suggests 100-120 million and I think that’s too high, he should easily be worth 15 mil/year for 4/5 years.

by Nikk.m on Jan 4, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather trade him or let him walk, than have him on a 6 or 7 year contract, as discussed in the article. Four years / $60mm I may be okay-ish with, but it depends on Brown, Gillies and Mayberry to a large extent.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That article kind of makes my point I think. He’ll be 31 years old in 2014. Say you lock him up for 5 years and 75mm. Assuming he costs you 11 and 14 in arbitration for 2012 and 2013 you basically paying 50mm for his age 31,32,and33 seasons for 14-16. That’s about 18mm per.

Not worth it.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think overall it may just be worth it if he produces 3+ WAR seasons during that time, which he very well should.

by Nikk.m on Jan 4, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe, but last year was a career year for him (5.3war) and aside from his rookie season, (3.3 in 484 PA) he was 0.7 in 08, 1.5 in 09 and 2.7 in 2010.

I’m not against Pence, but I just don’t see why you lock him up NOW. i wouldn’t even consider it until after this season.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

fWAR is much kinder: 3.5 in 08, 4.0 in 09, 3.2 in 2010. UZR is more accurate than TotalZone so I like to go with fWAR for hitters.

by Nikk.m on Jan 4, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I noticed the same. But, still, why sign him when he’s hot? Perhaps next year he has a lower BABIP hits more ~.280-ish and OPS in the low-mid .800’s. I don’t see a great reason to extend him now when his value is high (unless he’s willing to take below market value because he likes Philly/the team/Cholly/etc.).

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly. Again, nothing against Pence, but unless its a team freindly extention, I see very little upside doing it now.

Of course, RAJ does have a severe case of Arbiphobia, and the side effects are usually early unnecessary long term deals. So I fully expect him to lock Pence up for 5 years and 80 mm, on a heavilyu backloaded deal.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It might be worth it, based on the market value of WAR, but what’s the opportunity cost of signing him? I’d rather keep Hamels than Pence if it’s one or the other.

Besides, what if you could choose between paying Pence $15M for 3 WAR or paying Gillies $500K for 2.5 WAR? It’s worth seeing how the prospects trade bait younger guys pan out, especially for fifteen million bucks.

by Phrozen on Jan 4, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t question that, except Gillies probably isn’t the guy since he doesn’t have have enough pop to play corner.

by Nikk.m on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

If he can play above average D in Center and use his speed (assuming it’s there after the leg issues) on the bases, then 2.5-3.0 WAR isn’t unreasonable. If Mayberry proves to have really corrected his swing, then you could, conceivably, have a 7-10 WAR Outfield in 2014 for ~$2mm.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, but if not Gillies, then Mayberry or James or Randomguy Whosegonnagettraded. Either way, no need to lock up Pence at this point.

by Phrozen on Jan 4, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well as I demonstrated, signing Pence doesn’t prevent the Phillies from signing Hamels in any way. Obviously, if one of our multitude of OF prospects steps up and is ready to advance to the majors by 2014, then that opens up money for the Phillies to invest in 3B .

by philsandthrills on Jan 4, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Can Mayberry handle CF full-time in 2013? That would open room for Dom Brown in left and reduce the need to re-sign Victorino. By 2014 Gillies might be ready.

by Nikk.m on Jan 3, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Papelbon and Youkilis together on the 2013 Phillies is a horrible thought.

by philsandthrills on Jan 3, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The mere thought of that batting stance on this team makes me want to blow chunks.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

God, I hate his batting stance. It’s irrational, but it’s so irritating.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

The only stance worse than Nick “Prancer” Swisher’s.

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 4, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What a douchebag.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Jan 4, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Minor quibble. but I think it’s 50/50 that Martinez is even on the Phils in 2012, none the less 2013 and 2014. That said, I’m sure it would just be Bello, or Hernandez or some other cheap option, so it’s partly semantics, so to speak.

Good write up.

by Cormican on Jan 4, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Hey p&t – how did you make those charts? Did you just type all the html from scratch?

by taco pal on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty much. I had them in excel earlier, but it wouldn’t show up in the post so I just went and wrote the html for it instead.

by philsandthrills on Jan 4, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun fact. Marlins traded for Carlos Zambrano.

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Jan 4, 2012 8:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

THEY TRADED VOLSTAD. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Jan 4, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Fun with facts.

In 12 starts against the Phil’s, facing 239 batters, Volstad gave up 18 HRs, and had a 1.545 whip.

He also had a higher era (5.88) than innings per start ( 5.33)

Also, of the 9 batters Who faced him more than 10 times, 7 of them had an OPS over .900

Howard’s is over 2.00. Rollins, Ultey, Victorino, ibanez are 5 of the 7.

Name the other two without looking it up.

I’ll give a hint. Dom Brown would have been 8, but he’s only faced him 8 times.

Yeah, not sure who won that trade, but I know who lost….

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wild Howard-at-a-sinking-curveball swing here:

Ruiz and Gload

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 4, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Chooch is correct. A 1.21 ops in 20 AB’s. Even more impressive when you consider he hits right handed, and has zero HR’s against Volstad.

gload on the other hand, was 1-6 lifetime with a measly .333 ops.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Were these guys on the 2011 team, necessarily?

by taco pal on Jan 4, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Must be somebody off the wall, right? Valdez?

by taco pal on Jan 4, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct, sir. (I looked it up after going 1 for 2). Valdez has a .929 OPS against Volstad – 6 singles and 2 walks in 14 ABs. Slappy was happy with Volstad’s pitching.

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 4, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

ding ding ding!! We have a winner!!

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 5, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

No kidding, I ALMOST bought a Volstad jersey the other day, just because we own them. My plan was to wear it only at the new stadium, with a phillies hat as an inside joke only I’d understand when we played Miami.

Glad I saved that cash.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Funner fact

Carlos zambrano has faced the phillies starting 8 (using Mayberry, nix and brown in LF) 161 times. He’s given up 2 HRs, and one WS to placido Polanco.

Volstad faced the same 11 guys 169 times, and gave up 15 HRs. None were to Polanco.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 4, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s a WS?

World Series? Was?

by Phrozen on Jan 4, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Polanco won his own World Series!

Next year, Polanco vs. Ditka

by taco pal on Jan 4, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

It was WAS…

BUT I LIKE WORLD SERIES!!

So i cant sleep and I just pulled this together. To truly appreciate the difference to the Phillies between Volstad and Zambrano:

Career lines for Rollins, Utley, Pence, Howard and Victorino

versus Zambrano

25 for 108 with 13 BB and 24 K’s 0 HR’s and 5 RBI for a triple slash of .231/.319/.277

versus Volstad?

46 for 124 with 11 BB’s 11 K’s 13 Hr’s and 24 RBi’s with a meager .373/.439/.741 slash

I mean SSS and all, sure but DAYUM.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 5, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Can’t sleep, huh? I’ll keep you company.

by Phrozen on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean in the shoot the shit sense, of course, not the other sense, sometimes used on teh internebs.

by Phrozen on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Also that’s rather stunning, the difference between Volstad and Volstad.

by Phrozen on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

…and Zambrano.

Volstad, Volstad and Zambrano sounds like a crappy law firm.

by Phrozen on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

wow. just checked something else out. the last time the Marlins won a game against the phillies when Volstad started was may 25th 2009.

they lost the last 7 games he started against us and he never made it through the 6th inning in any of them.

Thats insane.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it is.

Only six games against the Cubs this year. Maybe we’ll get him a couple times, if we’re lucky.

by Phrozen on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Still, damnit. Screw these NL East’ers who keep making their teams better…except you, Mets, you’re awesome.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Am I totally wrong here. I always heard that luxury tax is figured by taking the entire contract and averaging it over the total number of years no matter what the player is actually paid that year. Meaning that front loading or back loading contracts does not actually mean anything as far as the tax threshold is concerned. Am I right about that??

by swid on Jan 6, 2012 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

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