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2012 Phillies Player Preview: Joe Blanton

When Pat Gillick traded prospects Adrian Cardenas and Josh Outman to the A's for Joe Blanton in July 2008, most of us here were less than thrilled. Blanton was competent, but no better than that. He'd averaged only 5.1 K/9 over his career, and his ERA was sure to take a big tumble once he moved from the spacious McAfee Coliseum to our ridiculous bandbox here in Philadelphia. He was already almost 28 and unlikely to improve a whole lot more.

But then a funny thing (or actually, several funny things) happened along the way. Blanton's K rate has surprisingly been much better as a member of the Phillies than it ever was in Oakland. On the other hand, his HR/FB has been a lot worse since the trade, which might have been foreseeable if Citizens Bank Park had continued to play like a bandbox - except that Citizens Bank Park stopped playing like a bandbox at the same time. Overall, Blanton has gradually turned into a pitcher whose peripherals and DIPS have been much better than his actual in-game results indicate - which is, in essence, the exact opposite of what he'd been with Oakland. There was also a World Series home run mixed in there somewhere.

All in all, despite the high HR/FB, trading for Blanton has worked out pretty well for the Phillies so far. Projecting what he'll do in 2012 is difficult, though, for a number of reasons. (1) Blanton missed over two thirds of the 2011 season with elbow pain. There was no structural damage and no surgery was required, but it still makes him a question mark until further notice. (2) There are all kinds of trade rumors swirling around him - more on this below. (3) His pitch assortment has evolved quite a bit over the last couple of years and may still be in flux - more on this at this link from last May. (4) He's just been tough to figure out for his entire career. Check this out:

Year Team IP K/9 BB/9 GB/LD/FB BABIP HR/FB ERA- FIP- xFIP
2005 OAK 201.1 5.19 3.00 44.7/18.0/37.3 .248 9.6% 83 105 106
2006 OAK 194.1 4.96 2.69 43.1/19.8/37.1 .335 6.8% 108 94 107
2007 OAK 230.0 5.48 1.57 46.9/20.6/32.5 .299 6.5% 90 81 89
2008 2tms 197.2 5.05 3.01 44.3/20.4/35.3 .290 9.4% 110 106 107
2009 PHI 195.1 7.51 2.72 40.6/20.1/39.3 .291 13.0% 96 104 95
2010 PHI 175.2 6.87 2.20 41.9/19.4/38.7 .321 12.2% 119 108 97
2011 PHI 41.1 7.62 1.96 55.0/17.1/27.9 .362 13.9% 130 94 82

Look at those last three columns in particular. If you can identify a pattern out of that mess, let me know. Blanton's pitched seven full seasons in the big leagues, and his ERA, FIP, and xFIP have been aligned with each other only once. That's strange.

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In the end, evaluating Blanton just comes down to an exercise in how much you really believe in orthodox sabermetric principles even in the face of two years worth of stats that appear to defy them. The sabermetric literature tells us that past xFIP is a better predictor of future ERA than either past ERA or past FIP are, and that pitchers' HR/FB rates and BABIPs are mostly (though not completely) based on luck and tend to gravitate toward the league average over the long run. Do you really believe that? If so, then drawing a conclusion from the data is pretty straightforward. Blanton has posted an xFIP- of ~95 over the past three years, ~99 over the past four years, and ~96 over the past five years. He is a solidly above-average pitcher and, if healthy, should earn every one of the 8.5 million dollars he's set to make in 2012, and more.

Will he get the opportunity to prove that in Philadelphia? It's unclear at this point. There's a possibility that the Phillies will run into some luxury tax problems this year, and generally speaking, if you absolutely must cut payroll, the back of the starting rotation is one of the more sensible places to look to do it. That doesn't mean it's always a good idea to look there, though.

In this case, I think it would be a positively bad idea to balance the books on Blanton's back, at least for the time being. There's no such thing as an untouchable - anyone can be traded if the return is good enough - and even if there were such a thing, Blanton certainly wouldn't qualify. But right now, he's undervalued, mainly because his unlucky HR/FBs and (sometimes) BABIPs in recent years have prevented his ERAs and win totals from accurately reflecting the quality of his performance. When it comes to making trades, the name of the game is to buy low and sell high, not the other way around. Blanton can be as expendable as the day is long, but even trade offers for expendable players should be refused if you're not going to get fair value for them in return. Just let Joe eat his innings and enjoy the results.

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That Blanton HR video makes me wish there was an easy way to rewatch that entire World Series.

Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses. Sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive

by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 22, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Well, you could buy the DVD box set…

Let's go Hawks! Detroit sucks!

by HappyHuman on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Had no idea such a thing existed. $65 on the Phillies website. A bit tempting.

http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3341965&cp=1452362.2184776

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by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 23, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The History Channel / A&E site has it for $40.

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Let's go Hawks! Detroit sucks!

by HappyHuman on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i have it, considered watching it some time.. starts from the stairs game against LA so its 7 game i guess

I hear you got quarterback problems i feel bad for you son...
i got 99 problems but vince aint one

by XxActionJacksonxX on Feb 23, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember the MLB Network was showing all 5 games a lot when it first launched. I had a lot of trouble sitting down and watching any of them because I already knew what happened and there wasn’t much excitement. I really just like to watch the big moments over again.

by Mattypmp on Feb 24, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

His injury is just flat-out mystifying given his record of durability. It’s so strange that nothing concrete was diagnosed or imaged. From what I’ve read so far, he’s saying all the right things about his strength and whatnot, but he gets walloped in ST, I’m going to worry. And egad, that HR/FB rate…damn. Statistically, and to answer your question about patterns, he’s not too far off right now from being the next version of this guy.

Also, intangible: No current Phillie really sweats as well as Blanton.

by Wet Luzinski on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

I could have sworn I just read an article a few days ago somewhere about Vance Worley being a profuse sweater

by taco pal on Feb 23, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Blanton sweats pastries.

A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.

by doubleh on Feb 23, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw it on a Yahoo Sports blog. Supposedly it makes it hard for him to grip his change up.

by Mattypmp on Feb 24, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

the “2-1 pitch” sounded weird at first, man i miss baseball

I hear you got quarterback problems i feel bad for you son...
i got 99 problems but vince aint one

by XxActionJacksonxX on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure what to think of Blanton at this point. I think he’s capable of being a more than serviceable pitcher and, serve as the best #4 man in the rotation in baseball but, at the same time I’ll admit that I would not be the first one in line (or at all for that matter) to put money on him pitching more than 150 innings, for that matter I wouldn’t expect him to have an ERA of sub 4. I sure hope I’m wrong he sets the world on fire with a career year.

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 23, 2012 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

Blanton’s injuries the last two years probably affected his numbers (saber- and otherwise) in other ways, too. In 2010, it took most of the season for his K rate to come back up; meanwhile, he was left in many games unnecessarily (starting with his very first game back from the DL) which very negatively impacted his stats. Last year, upon returning, he never really pitched enough to eliminate the small sample size noise. But also was getting a lot more ground balls in the time he did pitch. It’s weird.

The other thing about Blanton is that, though I like him, and can easily see him having a fantastic year (and would love it to be for the Phillies), I’d doubt he figures in the Phillies future plans, no matter what. He’s in that middle area, salary-wise, in that he’s paid about what he’s worth (assuming health), but an extension, or free agency re-signing enters into the realm of genuine overpay. At least when he was extended prior to 2010, the Phillies neither had Cliff Lee, nor expected to get him back. In which case the extension made sense. On the other hand, after two such injury-plagued, and traditional stats-challenged, seasons, Blanton may not have much market value, so that an extension or re-signing may not cost as much as he even does now.

by yolacrary on Feb 23, 2012 4:28 AM EST reply actions  

I could see a few scenario where Blanton is extended. Could you make an argument that offering him a 3 year 12 mil extension would be bad for either side? Baring a tremendous season he’s probably not going to command much more than that in FA this year & correct me if I’m wrong it would drop his luxury tax hit this year. That would give the Phillies leeway to move Kendrick or god forbid Worely (I’m sure his return right now would be huge).

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 23, 2012 5:04 AM EST up reply actions  

In theory a 3/12 deal sounds good. But I have to imagine the Phillies would want to see him make it through the whole season before extending him. And if he does, and pitches well, I’d imagine Blanton’d be less likely to take such a deal.

by yolacrary on Feb 23, 2012 5:23 AM EST up reply actions  

One could make an argument that ST is bigger for Blanton than any other Phillie (including Brown). I’m not sure why but, I think Kendrick is going to surprise a lot of people this year & if Joe’s numbers don’t look good than he may find himself in the pen & playing on the last year of his deal could be career devastating.

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 23, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think the Phillies are even evaluating Kendrick as their #4/5 started in Spring Training. He worked fairly well as a spot starter/long man last year. If Blanton is healthy, his numbers shouldn’t be too bad and given the amount of money he is making, they’ll be inclined to insert him into the rotation.

by Mattypmp on Feb 24, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree in the fact that it’s Blanton’s job to loose. What I was getting at is if his numbers don’t look good coming out of ST while Kendrick’s continued where he left off last year. Blanton may find himself without a spot in the rotation.

A bit related is there any history of teams starting off the season with a 6 man rotation? The Phillies have some brutal stretches this year. For sake of argument lets say both Blanton & Kendrick look good coming out the gate do you think it would be a possibility to see a 6 man rotation to try and save some rubber on the tiers of all the pitchers. Or could you even see using a guy like Willis as their long man work?

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 24, 2012 4:18 AM EST up reply actions  

there’s no need for a 6-man rotation..

also, Blanton’s ST numbers will have no bearing on whether he keeps his spot

by yolacrary on Feb 24, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure you're right

But, to think that a pitcher coming off arguably the worst 2 seasons of his career plagued with injuries & a terrible HR/FB ratio (I know a pitcher has no control over it and it should come back down to league average) & carrying a 130 ERA+ from last season isn’t fighting for his job is crazy.

To argue the point. 1-3 are set in stone 1 who pitched pretty damn well last year and 1 who has shown remarkable improvement over the last 2/3s of the season & is going to be fighting tooth and nail to get that 5th man secured.

I don’t want to sound like I don’t like Joe. I’m just attempting to make an argument that should he struggle through ST & at the same time Kendrick is putting up respectable numbers it’s entirely possible that Big Joe maybe the odd man out.

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 24, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Any pitcher who is getting paid over $10 million this year is either in the starting rotation or on the DL. Nobody would pay that much for a reliever…

Seriously though, he’d have to be pretty terrible to not be in the rotation. And if he’s that bad and he’s not injured, he’s a sunk cost and they send him the way of Adam Eaton.

by topherstarr on Feb 24, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

all I said that his numbers will have no bearing his job; ST numbers are meaningless…. now, if Blanton truly looks terrible during ST, can’t command his pitches, etc, that’s one thing.

I think the main considerations are simply: how does he feel, and how is he throwing.

by yolacrary on Feb 24, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Willis makes the team as a LOOGY or he plays somewhere else. Hes been absolutely brutal against righties in recent years.

When 3 of your starters are Halladay, Hamels and Lee, a 6 man rotation is a bad idea. Why would you want to replace one of their starts with Kendrick, et al for starters, not to mention screwing up their rhythym. A better solution would be to have a stronger bullpen, and not to overwork them late in games when the outcome is decided. But a 6 man rotation is a bad idea.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Feb 24, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not arguing for the six man rotation. I was merely asking a question and looking for both positives & negatives. I didn’t look at his numbers against LHB & RHB I just took a look at innings pitched and games played. That suggested to me he would be “able” to be a long man.

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 24, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You certainly wouldn’t want to do it on a regular basis. There might be specific situations when it makes sense though like, say, playing 20 games in 20 days with an 8-game lead on the division.

by taco pal on Feb 24, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

That could never…

Oh, I see what you did there.

by topherstarr on Feb 24, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Who in their right mind would do such a thing?

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 24, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

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