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Idle Speculation: Oswalt and a Phillies-Angels Trade

Our own David Cohen highlights a rumbling that the assumed divorce between the Phillies and Roy Oswalt might not be as final as all that. I also saw on MLBTR that speculation is hot and heavy around an Angels-Nationals trade that would send Washington rotation mainstay (and TGP bete noire) John Lannan to Anaheim for outfielder Peter Bourjos. All this, plus the seasonal madness that usually comes upon me as we get close to pitchers and catchers, got me thinking...

A plus defensive center fielder with speed and a bit of pop who will turn 25 just before the start of the season, Bourjos is a valuable piece who's got more tomorrows than yesterdays. The Phillies need to get younger, and the only reason the Angels are looking to move him is that they've got a position-player logjam with an even better CF prospect, Mike Trout, knocking on the door and a glut of corner men in both the infield and outfield. Given the choice between Lannan and, say, Vance Worley, wouldn't they go with the younger, cheaper arm? Then the Phillies sign Oswalt at $5-6 million for one season, and they've upgraded across the board.

Worley actually might have more value than Bourjos. Given our glut of high-ceiling relievers and Anaheim's abundance of infielders, maybe there's even a bigger deal to be made around in which the Phillies add a MIchael Stutes or Justin De Fratus and also land talented utility infielder Alberto Callaspo--think a younger Wilson Valdez with a slightly worse glove but much better bat--or Mark Trumbo, a first baseman/corner OF slugger type.

Bourjos either pushes Shane Victorino to left field or takes that position himself. John Mayberry, Jr. assumes the bulk of first-base duties until Ryan Howard comes back from injury, then moves into a sub role at all three OF positions plus first base, freeing up Ty Wigginton to serve as a frequent sub for Chase Utley and Placido Polanco--both of whom will need an off-day or two each week. Having Bourjos gives the Phils a viable CF replacement for Victorino when he reaches free agency after 2012.

Losing Worley would hurt a little, but if there's one area where the Phils have solid organizational depth, it's the rotation. Joe Blanton is the #4 starter, with Kyle Kendrick and Joel Piniero battling it out for #5 and adequate organizational depth with Pat Misch, Austin Hyatt et al behind them. In a year, the first of the Trevor May/Julio Rodriguez/Brody Colvin cohort should be knocking at the major-league door.

One problem would be that Oswalt at $5-6 million would push the Phillies over the luxury tax limit. I guess it's possible that the Angels might consider Blanton rather than Worley; if healthy, he has to be about as good a bet to perform as Lannan, and the Phillies could cover a large-ish chunk of his salary and still find a way under the limit. Of course, given that he's under control only for a year as opposed to Worley, the Phils would have to put in more on their end--again, maybe one of the high-upside relief prospects. But that seems worthwhile to add one or more pieces who could help the team both in 2012 and beyond.

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Actually, I would be okay with them doing this, even if they go over the threshold. As long as they don’t make a habit of it, but I like that trade, plus of course another year of R2C2.

by Airedale260 on Feb 5, 2012 8:10 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

I’d have a problem with it were it not for the fact we’d be trading a young pitcher, of whom we have some decent number, for a young position player, of whom we have very few.

by dajafi on Feb 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do I feel like we’ve had this conversation already? Seriously, I got a weird sense of deja vu when I read this proposal.

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 5, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

I guess I would be cautiously receptive to this idea.

I do kind of hope, though, the Phillies take a go-slow approach with the pitchers who will open 2012 at Reading. Those guys are good prospects, but they’re not that good, and in general I’m philosophically disinclined to push prospects as they go up the developmental ladder.

by taco pal on Feb 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

I like it.

.. freeing up Ty Wigginton to serve as a frequent sub for Chase Utley and Placido Polanco—both of whom will need an off-day or two each week.

I would love to see this not due to some Wigginton fetish but it would mean Chuckles isn’t just paying lip service to resting older players more often.

by j reed on Feb 6, 2012 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

If we could only rest them all when facing Lannen.

"Learning to eat soup with a knife"

by h2o_34_35_44 on Feb 6, 2012 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Against it, but only because its blocking the possibility of lannan being shipped to the west coast.

by phillyorbust on Feb 6, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

On the other hand he’s 2-12 against the Phillies with 17 HRs allowed. He hasn’t allowed more than 7 against anybody else.

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by schmenkman on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He’s also 3-45 in beaning chase Utley with his Deliberate pitches of terrorism. If he had better control, he’d be 45-45 I know it.

The only safe place to ship John Lannan is Japan. Deprt him, and deport him today.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Feb 9, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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