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Michael Schwimer wants to know if he's allowed to be a NY Giants fan

He actually e-mailed this question to Grantland's Katie Baker, who published it in her mailbag:

My dad was born and raised in the heart of New York City. He is a diehard fan of the Yankees, Giants, and Knicks. Just like any other kid with a diehard New York sports fan dad, I was brainwashed from a very early age to live and die with New York sports. My dad and I bond the most over sports and going to events. We went to Lambeau Field for the 2007 NFC Championship game, and now to this Super Bowl.

Long story short, I got drafted by the Phillies, and got called up for a month and a half this past season. My love for the Yankees has disappeared but my love for the Giants and Knicks is as strong as ever. I also have fallen in love with the city of Philadelphia and truly believe they are the best baseball fans in the country. The last thing I ever want to do is lose support from these fans, but I love the Giants. So am I allowed to outwardly root for the G-MEN or do I have to keep that to myself because I happen to be employed by the Phillies?

— Michael S.

Her answer:

"Long Story Short, I Got Drafted by the Phillies" sounds like Bill Bryson's next work of participatory journalism (which I would excitedly preorder, obviously), but I'll also accept it as a throwaway line in my first mailbag letter from a professional athlete. Hello there! Not sure if you and/or anyone else watches Sister Wives, but it had a great reality show wrinkle in time a season or so back during which they spent numerous episodes agonizing about whether or not to "go public" with their polygamy — when, clearly, they obviously already had gone public or else how would I be watching them agonize about it on a show called Sister Wives in the first place, you know? Anyway, my point is, your question kind of reminds me of Sister Wives: You're already out in the open and now there's no point in hiding it.

Sooner or later, everyone has to learn that there are two types of sports fans: those who intrinsically understand that it's unreasonable to assume any particular athlete would have grown up as a fan of their team; and those who are certain to spit things like "He stinks. He's a Giants fan, what do you expect?" in angry earnest down the road. But regardless of whom you're dealing with, it's best at this point to remain gracious in victory, because it's hard to say how long it will endure. I say this not as any sort of reverse jinx, but rather because any fan of any NFC East team knows this much to be true: No one lasts too long on top. There's as good a chance as any that the Eagles could knock the Big Blue right down to size next season. And if/when that happens, it's going to be annoying enough without a horde of I-told-you-so-ing Philly fans getting all up in your face. (Just don't wear a Giants shirt into a Wawa.)

Here's a recent and relevant precedent that you can use in your favor, if needed: The Giants' own resident salsa dancer, Victor "they're not booing, they're saying" Cruuuuuz,not only outed himself as a longtime Cowboys fan this December, he did so in the most potentially damaging way possible: by lamenting how he "was pretty upset when we lost to the Giants a couple of years back when I was in college." That's right, He used the "loyal we." The sound bite made headlines, but Giants fans were secure enough to know it really wasn't that big a deal. And after the Giants won the Super Bowl, the New York Rangers' Brian Boyle, a noted New Englander, was revealed to have obviously engaged in a pro-Patriots bet. Rangers fans understood. So you've got leverage over Philly fans in that respect: If they give you any trouble, it's just proof that they're vastly inferior to their counterparts in New York. [Redacted because these are three very dirty words that should never appear on this blog]!

What do those of you who are fans of the Philly teams across the board think? Is this cool, or should he be required to convert to the good side?

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Cliff Lee would be proud

Baseball is like Crack but better for you

by kmrblue1027 on Feb 9, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Samsies.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much this.

James van Riemsdyk of the Flyers grew up a Rangers fan, DeSean Jackson is very proud to be from California, Ryan Howard is from the St. Louis area, etc. etc.

This stuff never bothered me. I’m not even sure why this bothers some.

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by Justin F. on Feb 10, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So that’s why he made the last out of the series!

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 10, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t care who he roots for outside the sport he plays. If I was a pro baseball player for say, the Rockies, I would still be a Flyers fan before a Avs fan. that said, i’d probably go to a bunch of Avs and Nuggets games anyway.

‎"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov

by JpH89 on Feb 9, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

I would think less of him if he switched allegiances.

Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses. Sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive

by Eaglesadvocate on Feb 9, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

I actually agree

Baseball is like Crack but better for you

by kmrblue1027 on Feb 9, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Senator Tom McCarthy plans to out everyone.

"I asked for Shaq. They gave me Shackleford."

http://whereisbenrivera.posterous.com/

by Dave Rueter on Feb 9, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

I have a list… of Giants’ fans!

by Phrozen on Feb 9, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

As long as he’s not a Cowboys fan, I really don’t care.

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 9, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

You mean, like Shane Victorino?

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Shut up, really??

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 9, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

<a href=“http:// ”http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/10/following-the-phillies-on-twitter-is-more-annoying-than-you-may-have-first-thought.html" target="_blank">http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/10/following-the-phillies-on-twitter-is-more-annoying-than-you-may-have-first-thought.html" target="new">Really.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit, link fail. Really

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, so that’s why we hate Crossing Broad…

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 9, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The worst.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 9, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, sorry I linked them but they were the first search item that came up that showed something of Vic being a Cowboys fan. I never read that site ever.

"I wouldn’t run if there was a fire. I wouldn’t run anywhere. I hate running." - O. Munn

by doubleh on Feb 9, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

“Long Story Short, I Got Drafted by the Phillies” sounds like Bill Bryson’s next work of participatory journalism (which I would excitedly preorder, obviously…

Fantastic. I love Bryson’s stuff.

by Phrozen on Feb 9, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

What would the iron pigs equivalent of the giants be? Cause if he’s a fan of them the guys and gals in lehigh should throw chainsaws at him when he’s pitching.

"Sometimes, the balls that fall in are jam shots"...Hunter Pence, on BABIP

by Joecatz on Feb 9, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

The jets?

Baseball is like Crack but better for you

by kmrblue1027 on Feb 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lolz

I heart our rookies.

by LeepinLizardz on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I mean frankly I could give two shits. I’ve always wondered at what point the “fan” in the athlete goes away, and Schwimer’s letter kind of illuminated that point.

When you employ people from around the country/hemisphere, it’s silly to think they’ll immediately become a BIG FAN of everything in the city, especially when, for most of them, the team can terminate the relationship without notice and send them to ANOTHER city where they MUST BECOME A BIG FAN OR ELSE. It’s absurd.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 9, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

But then we becomes SOFT

‎"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov

by JpH89 on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always wondered at what point the "fan" in the athlete goes away

A friend of mine was raised in New York City and was drafted by the Blue Jay’s organization. After six or seven years playing in a division rival’s system, he has gone back to being a Yankee fan now that his career is over. It actually never occured to me that some people might find that weird.

by topherstarr on Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s just funny that it was Schwimer, because he’s also a Capitals fan and he was poking fun at Flyers fans back in October when the Caps routed the Flyers.

But nah, not a big deal at all.

by everybodyhitswoohoo on Feb 10, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Incidentally, earlier this week I caught about thirty seconds of Cataldi doing one of his fake rants on how dare Desean Jackson be a Lakers fan and root for the Lakers at a Sixers game in Philadelphia blah blah blah. Pretty irritating stuff.

I think the way talk radio appeals to certain people is by conveying to them the message that the way to be a True Sports Fan and a True Philadelphian is precisely coextensive with being a gigantic spoiled baby.

by taco pal on Feb 10, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

This wouldn’t be an issue if he had just been drafted by the Cleveland Indians.

by TwistyWristy on Feb 10, 2012 3:19 AM EST reply actions  

Should of played for New York!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

How do we know he’s going to play his hardest when he’s versing the Yankees?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Phillies weren’t such a cheap, disloyal organization, they would of traded Schwimer with Coal Hammels and got JA Happ back!

by topherstarr on Feb 10, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

absolutly!1 LOL now were stuck with showoff hamells and frontrunner Holiday phils are done. book it. should of got joe rayes insted of POPUPS rollins LOLWTF! heard on Wip teh marlings are gonna get yones centipeds from CUBA. he commie but plays hard now were gonna lose cause lazy asss BROWn

by Phrozen on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Phrozen you really that the WIP thing way too far

Baseball is like Crack but better for you

by kmrblue1027 on Feb 10, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Never dabble with the Dark Side.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

What would bother me is to find someone cough Harper cough is a fan of the Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers and Penguins. Wimps.

by Cormican on Feb 10, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Did he read “The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Being a Bandwagon Fan” or something?

A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.

by doubleh on Feb 11, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m actually kinda surprised he watches hockey at all. Doesn’t seem the type.

Who are his college teams? I assume Duke for basketball. There isn’t really a clear cut candidate for football though. It used to be Notre Dame back in the day, but not right now.

by taco pal on Feb 11, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Alabama?

Last name Ever
First name Greatest

#PayDeSeanJackson

by Djax10 on Feb 11, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Not at all. They don’t have a nationwide fan base.

by taco pal on Feb 11, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow Florida.

by Phrozen on Feb 11, 2012 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And, if he’s aware of college hockey, it’d be Michigan or Boston College or something.

by Phrozen on Feb 11, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Manchester United for soccer.

A tie may be like kissing your sister, but it's better than getting screwed by a skills competition.

by doubleh on Feb 11, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

And probably Syracuse for college lacrosse.

by Phrozen on Feb 11, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ehh you’d be surprised how many ROLL TIDE t-shirts I see in New Jersey

Last name Ever
First name Greatest

#PayDeSeanJackson

by Djax10 on Feb 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

One of my coworkers is a Tide fan, and he never lived in Alabama.

by Phrozen on Feb 11, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn’t even in the same ballpark as the other teams/schools I listed. I wouldn’t even rank Alabama as the #1 frontrunner school in college football. The closest thing we’ve got at the moment is USC, although they don’t really qualify either.

by taco pal on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, I’m just saying there’s some form of Tide Nation in existence. I’d actually put Florida higher in terms of nationwide following.

by Phrozen on Feb 12, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

15 years ago it was Notre Dame, no competition.

by Cormican on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I can confirm that yes, he is a Duke basketball fan.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Feb 11, 2012 4:36 AM EST up reply actions  

McIlroy is his favorite golfer, Fed for Tennis

‎"I'm terrible" - Ilya Bryzgalov

by JpH89 on Feb 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually freelanced on the Penguins, but I have heard him say he likes Duke, Lakers, Cowboys and Yankees. I can forgive him for the Lakers, since LA is fairly close-ish to Vegas.

by Cormican on Feb 11, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s such a thing as a frontrunner hockey team if you live in the U.S. The closest thing would probably be Detroit, not Pittsburgh.

by taco pal on Feb 12, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Potentially the Rangers because of Gretzky.

Some people don't think it be what it is, but it do.

by TheOrangeCone on Feb 12, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Historically, I suppose it would be the Habs, but they haven’t been great in quite a while.

by Cormican on Feb 12, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Oddly, it seems to me like all the Canadian hockey fans hate the Maple Leafs much more than they hate Montreal. I don’t get that at all. It would be as if the Cubs were the most reviled baseball team in the U.S.

by taco pal on Feb 12, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I might think about lumping Washington into that group, but my perception of this may be skewed because their minor-league affiliate is from Hershey, PA.

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by Justin F. on Feb 12, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that counts because it’s just a recent phenomenon based on one great player. Once he’s gone, that won’t be around anymore. It’s kind of similar to Alabama college football in that respect. Despite their great history as a football program, the vast majority of nationwide attention that they’re getting now is only because they’ve won two recent national championships. There needs to be a lot more staying power than that to become a Yankees/Cowboys equivalent.

by taco pal on Feb 12, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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